
Puck Soup
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Sarah Baicker, ESPN layoffs
EGreg and Dave welcome former CSN host and Philadelphia sports pundit Sarah Baicker to talk about the Flyers, Philly as a sports town, how TV people are treated by athletes and the nasty sendoff she received from one fan. Plus, comments about the massive ESPN layoffs that claimed some hockey writers, predictions for the second round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, working for the Sabres, chaos in Chicago, how we played NES and our favorite games, movie sequels we may not want to see, and reader mail covering obscure fast food items, mini-golf etiquette and what Dave sings in the shower. Sponsored by Helix Sleep and Zip Recruiter.

Amanda Stein
EGreg and Dave welcome Amanda Stein, Montreal Canadiens reporter and radio host, for a wide-ranging talk about the Habs' language challenges, P.K. Subban controversies, USA vs. Canada, her career path, Dave's lack of love for 'Parks and Rec' and Amanda's lifelong fear of mascots. Plus, the media protects its own on Calgary Flames controversy; the Stanley Cup Playoffs; the 'Dart Guy' for other NHL teams; Jack Eichel might get Bylsma fired; sex disrupts a tennis match, and what sporting events are best for sex; Dave didn't totally hate SUICIDE SQUAD; and listener mail on everything from steak dinners to rom-coms.

Stanley Cup Playoffs, Explained
EGreg and Dave break down the Stanley Cup Playoffs, disagree a lot about their picks and then find out they have the same teams for the championship round. They go through the big coaching and management changes in Los Angeles, Dallas, Vancouver and Florida. They chronicle the weird sex case involving the Edmonton Oilers' owner, and even weirder policy on selling tickets to watch playoff games from the arena hallway. Plus, why Star Wars is about sex; Tinder, but for hockey fans; being podcasting consultants; masturbation habits in a friend's house; and reader mailbag questions on movie trailers, continental breakfasts and lonely people who roll solo to Disney. Brought to you by Zip Recruiter and Harry's Razors!

Jamie Hersch and Olympic Debate!
EGreg and Dave welcome NHL and MLB Network host Jamie Hersch for a fun conversation about Minnesota life, hockey vs. baseball, Game of Thrones and reliving the most awkward interview she ever had with a gossip columnist. Plus, it's the First Ever Puck Soup NHL Olympic Participation Debate, as Greg blames the IOC and Dave targets the NHL; looking at the Stanley Cup playoff matchups; if a Canadian team will win the Cup; how lit Dave's millennial brand knowledge is; and reader mail that spans from burgers to best coaches to people thinking they can jinx athletes through a television. Sponsored by Helix Sleep and Blue Apron!

Kevin Blackistone, ESPN
EKevin Blackistone of ESPN's "Around The Horn" and the Washington Post joins us to talk about the early days of the Dallas Stars, Alex Ovechkin and the Washington Capitals' place in D.C. sports, race and hockey and why ESPN doesn't talk NHL on its shouting shows. Meanwhile, Dave is recovering from Vegas, Greg has all of Edmonton mad at him, and the boys talk about the U.S. women's hockey team getting paid, the playoff teams we're rooting for, why you should never cross Gary Bettman, HBO "Real Sex" and porn roulette, the top seven celebrities to have attended WRESTLEMANIA that Lozo had no idea actually did, the latest in our March Mute-This bracket and reader mail. Sponsored by SEAT GEEK and ZIP RECRUITER.

Dimitri Filipovic
EGreg and Dave welcome Sportsnet hockey analytics smartypants Dimitri Filipovic for a chat about the warring factions of stat nerds, his work with an NHL team, what numbers we should trust, the media's ignorance and whether you can sell hockey with math. Plus,the boys debate the Olympics and the NHL; look at the Vezina Trophy field, and ponder the merits of Corey Crawford as a franchise goalie; give a March Mute-This tournament update; play a round of 'London Tube Stop, U.K. Crime Series or Sexual Slang'; and answer your listener mail about 'Lethal Weapon' vs. the 'Ocean's' movies, Subway sandwiches, peanut butter on hamburgers, how we shower and the merits of jellybeans. Sponsored by Seat Geek and Blue Apron!

Dan Barbarisi
EGreg and Dave speak with author Dan Barbarisi, whose excellent new book "Dueling With Kings" chronicles his amazing adventures playing (and winning quite a lot at) daily fantasy hockey. Plus, Greg gets a nasty letter from Devils coach John Hynes's "personal brander" or whatever; the boys debate the Hart Trophy race; looking at the issues in the U.S. women's national team vs. USA Hockey; the Winter Classic at Citi Field; looking at the Top 50 fast food items and why millennials have to stop eating Frostys; monkey movies vs. movies with monkeys; the Puck Soup mailbag; and just in time for the big tournament, it's Puck Soup March MuteUs, the Tournament of Annoying On-Air Hockey Commentators. Sponsored by Seat Geek and Harry's Razors.

Seann William Scott
ESeann William Scott, the titular goon of "GOON: LAST OF THE ENFORCERS" joins us to talk about making a hockey cult classic, his career, the live experience of hockey vs. other sports and whether Eugene Levy is the Nick Fury of AMERICAN PIE movies. Plus, Greg and Dave address vital hockey issues like the NHL offside review, the expansion draft, the future of the Arizona Coyotes, bye weeks, Josh Ho-Sang wearing Mario's number and much more. They sing a song about Kristers Gudlevskis. Then they air their love and gripes about LOGAN and read your listener mail. Brought to you by Seat Geek and Blue Apron!

Best NHL Trade Deadline Ever
EGreg and Dave and special guest Sean Leahy of Puck Daddy talk about the blockbuster trades of what was, without question, the most entertaining trade deadline in history. (And by "entertaining" we mean excruciating.) We analyze every trade, while also discussing alligator attacks, aliens, foods we hate, Leicester City, Neapolitan ice cream and Dave's zipper problems.

Will Leitch
EDave and Greg welcome Will Leitch of Sports On Earth and the New Republic (and the founder of Deadspin) to talk about the St. Louis Blues, how baseball and hockey are constantly trying to court fans that don't like them, Barstool Sports and the changing digital sports media landscape, and Will's Oscar picks. That, plus the Auston Matthews vs. Patrik Laine debate goes nuclear; the downside of the "Miracle On Ice"; previewing the NHL trade deadline; and musical tribute to the sad, ignored Ryan Johansen; a Blackhawks fans marries a Wild fan on the ice but betrays his team; and listener mail that takes us through pizza dipping, hockey documentaries and Ilya Bryzgalov on the seven new exoplanets.

Jonah Keri Hearts Claude Julien
EDave and Greg talk with Jonah Keri (The Jonah Keri Podcast) about his beloved Montreal Canadiens firing Michel Therrien and hiring Claude Julien, as well as the trend of recycling coaches in hockey and baseball. That, plus JOHN WICK vs. JACK REACHER and a Keanu movie quiz; Antoine Vermette smacks a ref and gets suspended; Gustav Nyqvist smacks a Wild player and gets suspended; Patrik Laine and the Calder Trophy; the wacky Eastern Conference playoff race; Taco Bell Cantina; fan behavior at Jennifer Lopez concerts; Dave gives Greg a quiz about hockey erotica book titles; and listener mail on the best James Bond and the worst aspect of fan identity. Sponsored by Seat Geek and Harrys.com!

Pete The Retailer from Star Wars Minute
EDave and Greg welcome Pete The Retailer from Star Wars Minute to talk about how his first Puck Soup was ruined, his New York Islanders' fortunes and potential relocation, how to do Minute-By-Minute podcasts and they play the exciting new game "Star Wars Planet or NHL Player." That, plus Claude Julien gets fired by the Bruins, and the boys talk about where he and that team go next; firing your coach during a Super Bowl parade; the best and worst of Super Bowl LI; reviewing the Taco Bell Naked Chalupa; the flat salary cap, and the NHL's evil reasons for it; reader mailbag; and the winners of the first Puck Soup contest, as well as the introduction of the mysterious Puck Soup Cup Soup trophy. Brought to you by Seat Geek and Blue Apron!

Rock Out, Hitchcock Out
EGreg and Dave discuss the firing of St. Louis Blues coach Ken Hitchcock. OK, they actually talk about hotel bathroom etiquette, and then get around to Hitchcock. Plus, the NHL All-Star Weekend, Justin Bieber, the NHL 100 list's biggest flaw, Ilya Bryzgalov interviews Republican Ryan Suter; the NHL and the Olympics; Dave gives Greg a pop culture quiz; the NHL takes a political stand on immigrants and gay rights … well, sorta; the first Puck Soup Podcast listener contest, such as it is; and the listener mailbag, featuring if "Ocean's 11" was cast with NHL players.

Chris #2 of Anti-Flag
EGreg and Dave welcome Pittsburgh Penguins fan Chris Barker, a.k.a. Chris #2, from the punk band Anti-Flag to talk Mario Lemieux, how hockey is punk rock, his sneaky plans to get punk music at NHL games and what art is going to look like under the Trump administration. Plus, we rank the NHL All-Star Game skills competitions, discuss our new book "The 100 Greatest Players In NHL History (and other stuff)," finally review ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY, discuss the finer points of Limp Bizkit, debate the best donuts and food combinations and offer our take on NHL entertainment. Sponsored by Seat Geek!

Confessions of a Puck Bunny
EGreg and Dave speak with a self-identifying "puck bunny" about how she entered that lifestyle, her relationships with players, how hockey guys differ from other athletes, how she handles dangerous situations and harassment, and how she feels about women hockey fans being taunted as "puck bunnies" due to her activities. It's a raw, honest discussion about an uncomfortable facet of fandom. That, plus the Islanders fire Jack Capuano; the status of all 31 NHL general managers; Ilya Bryzgalov and Patrik Laine comments on bears in schools; plus reader mail about Trump, the Vegas Raiders, Jonathan Cheechoo and bacon. Sponsored by Seat Geek!

Erin Darke
EGreg and Dave welcome actress Erin Darke to the podcast to talk about her beloved Detroit Red Wings and die-hard hockey fandom; how she converted boyfriend Daniel Radcliffe into a puckhead; and life tips for smuggling things into games. Plus, breaking down NHL All-Star snubs, debating the virtue of Jonathan Toews, modern players among the Top 100 of All-Time, is Alex Ovechkin traveled back in time to win Stanley Cups, Russian spying, Martin Short, our favorite condiments, Patrik Laine and much more. Sponsored by Seat Geek

Titus O'Neil, WWE
EGreg and Dave welcome Titus O'Neil to the podcast, a WWE superstar and a die-hard Tampa Bay Lightning fan who discusses his relationship with coach Jon Cooper, the similarities between hockey and wrestling and destroying Peyton Manning in college football. Plus, we dig into the Winter Classic and the future of NHL outdoor games; the NHL All-Star Game captains; Auston Matthews and the Toronto Maple Leafs' impending dynasty; the amazing Columbus Blue Jackets; the figure-four leg lock; Southwest Airlines stress; hockey line names; our favorite vegetables; and erotic recreations of Ringling Bros. circus acts. Puck Soup is brought to you by SEAT GEEK.

Bye 2016, Predicting 2017
EIt's the Year in Hockey 2016, as Greg and Dave offer their top 10 stories from the last year as well as a self-indulgent look back at the year in Puck Soup. Plus, the boys predict what will happen in 2017, from the Vegas Golden Knights to the Olympics to the NHL Awards. Also, the typical nonsense about things like Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice, Blue Jackets fans, Patrik Laine's soft deviousness and all sorts of other things in the latest Puck Soup, sponsored by Seat Geek!

Santa Jagr
EGreg and Dave get into the Christmas spirit while discussing Jaromir Jagr's amazing career achievements and off-ice infamy; the lack of buzz for NHL outdoor games; a new survey on how hockey fans watch games; the Columbus Blue Jackets fans that hate Greg and Dave; the ultimate debate over whether DIE HARD is a Christmas movie or a movie with Christmas in it; the top 8 worst Christmas songs of all-time; how we found out the truth about Santa as kids; and a listener mail segment that includes some very awkward threesome talk about the brothers Sedin, Staal and Benn.

Dan Pashman
EGreg and Dave welcome Dan Pashman, host of The Sporkful podcast and You're Eating It Wrong on Cooking Channel, to talk about hockey arena eats, the New Jersey Devils, Nassau Coliseum, when attending games turns dangerous, the history of pork roll and the right way to eat pizza and ice. That, plus our mixed feelings on the Columbus Blue Jackets, the Eastern and Western Conference playoff races, how the Blackhawks can win again, what to do with the Avalanche, Westworld (spoilers), Price Is Right games and Dave creates some Christian rock anthems.

Whack Panther
EGreg and Dave discuss the stunning turn of events for the Florida Panthers, in firing their coach; our confusion over the show "Dirty Jobs"; an apology to NBC, which actually does like showing young Canadian players in the All-Star Game; the NHL's offensive problem; a thrilling round of "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Character or Finnish Hockey Legend"; NHL Awards at the quarter mark of the season; and listener mail, including Christmas traditions.

Turkey Daze
EGreg and Dave reveal the 11 NHL types that you'll find at your hometown bar the night before Thanksgiving. Plus, whether teams off to great starts are big phonies; the NHL's All-Star voting changes; the Las Vegas team name; Greg's John Tortorella theory; the Centennial Classic jerseys; your reader mail; and the boys crack open classic trading card packs from WCW circa 1991 and "Saved By The Bell: The College Years" because of course they did.

Kelen Capener
EGreg and Dave welcome San Jose Sharks superfan Kelen Capener of The Story So Far to talk about music, his hate for the Los Angeles Kings and specifically Dustin Brown; Twitter wars with Nashville fans; the joy of Joe Thornton and the agony of seeing the Stanley Cup go to Pittsburgh. That, plus the NHL is using the Olympics to strong-arm players, new shootout rules, the Oilers' slump, Lethal Weapon movies, the NY Islanders' plight, sneaky Las Vegas moves, Hallmark Movie Channel holiday films and the realization that Donald Trump is probably a hockey fan (sigh).

Jonah Keri
EGreg and Dave welcome renowned baseball writer and fellow Nerdist sports podcaster Jonah Keri to the podcast to talk about his beloved Montreal Canadiens, the P.K. Subban trade, the progress of advanced stats in baseball vs. hockey, how different generations believe their sports were the best and much more. Plus the boys send in Seal Team 5 to rescue NHL players from bad situations, play F/M/K in hockey, debate which team has the biggest national fan base, touch on the Islanders' coach and Jacob Trouba's contract, and discuss your listener mail, including sports spoiler etiquette! Sponsored by Seat Geek!

NHL Player Safety, Revealed!
EGreg and Dave reveal the secrets of the NHL's Department of Player Safety with special guests Damian Echevarrieta, the NHL's vice president of Player Safety and Hockey Operations, Patrick Burke, director of Player Safety. They discuss why a play does or does not earn a suspension; the pitfalls of precedent; whether they hate your team; inside a player safety hearing; whether players actually like them; and whether the NHL's suspension policies go far enough. That, plus discussions on "American Psycho," Connor McDavid, John Tortorella, expansion team success, Christmas decorations and National League fanboy Greg takes on designated hitter apologist Dave in a fight to the death. Brought to you by SEAT GEEK.

Halloween Spooktacular!
EIt's the Puck Soup Halloween Spooktacular, as Greg and Dave assign trick-or-treat costumes to NHL players and play "yummy in my tummy or only for a dummy" with classic Halloween candy. Plus, a look at early season surprises in the NHL; Dave is all-in on the Edmonton Oilers; why the Maple Leafs are a wonderful kind of bad; Greg rants about the poor NBCSN game analysis; why the Rangers are quite good; why the Pacific Division is not very good; TV shows that have longevity but we don't know who actually watches them; David S. Pumpkins vs. Black Jeopardy; and if the Zodiac killer was obsessed with candy.

Bill Pidto
EGreg and Dave talk hockey with Bill Pidto of MSG Network and formerly of ESPN, ranging from whether sports coverage is too buttoned down to the changing speed of the NHL to whether hockey fans are just sore losers. That plus Greg saw Hamilton, Dave hates musical theater, Greg loves Westworld, Dave hates robots with feelings, the death of General Fanager as a salary cap source, what the hell the LA Kings can do to save their season, sandwich and toilet etiquette, the biggest sports city loser and the next general manager fired in the NHL.

John C. McGinley
EGreg and Dave talk hockey with actor John C. McGinley (Scrubs, Platoon, Office Space) about being in Chris Chelios's "Malibu Mob," leaving the Stanley Cup on the beach by accident, working with Oliver Stone, his greatest improv'd line and Stan Against Evil, his bloody great new IFC show. Plus, our 10 hopes and dreams for the 2016-17 NHL season, P.K. Subban's controversial quote and marketable NHL players, the concept of "locker room talk," Ken Bone, Matt LeBlanc's acting career, listener mail and which NHL team Jon Taffer should coach.

Sarah Kwak and NHL Preview
EGreg and Dave talk puck with Sarah Kwak of Sports Illustrated, previewing the 2016-17 NHL season, the joys of Costco booze, her journey from SI intern to editor, if Crosby and Ovechkin are old now and the meat content of poop. Plus, "Mike and the Mad Dog" give over/unders for all 30 teams, we debate play-in games and your listener mail!

David Ehrlich
EGreg and Dave welcome Indiewire film critic David Ehrlich to talk about the New York Rangers, hockey movies, his loathing of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, censorship and Lozo finally say "The Force Awakens." Plus, our eight requests for subsequent World Cups of Hockey, the NHL's centennial celebration, "World Cup of Hockey: The Musical," Johnny Gaudreau's contract, our favorite "The Price Is Right" games and why we hate umbrellas.

World Cup of Hockey and More
EGreg and Dave dissect the corpse of Team USA at the World Cup of Hockey, including why they sucked, who to blame and how to fix it. Plus, Dave gloats about Team Europe, in praise of Team North America, whether either team will be back next World Cup, rating ESPN's hockey performance, ranking Kevin Smith movies, a flurry of food questions, Evander Kane and marriage proposals at sporting events.

Linda Cohn
EGreg and Dave talk hockey with Linda Cohn of ESPN and her incessant boosterism of the New York Rangers and Henrik Lundqvist. Plus, the World Cup of Hockey gets previewed; Eli Manning vs. Peyton Manning vs. Tom Brady; why ESPN doesn't cover hockey; which World Cup team you'd most like to play for; how the musical "Cats" is about ritual sacrifice; the NHL Las Vegas team's gimmicks; and listener mail, including the best potato chip flavor.

John Tortorella, Patriot
EGreg and Dave talk about John Tortorella's stand against those who sit during the national anthem; ESPN's Stephen A. Smith doesn't understand what Team USA is; why Dave loves him some Team Europe in the World Cup of Hockey; Green Day and The Killers are NHL famous; behind the scenes of the Edmonton Oilers' trades; the best fast-food items, ranked; whether Dave could find a mate on "Bachelor in Paradise"; Greg's jury duty, and the chocolate bar defense; and your listener mail including tailgate stories, boxers vs. briefs and more.

Roy, Vesey and Bad Rio Hangover
EGreg is back from Rio and Dave is back from uncomfortable conversations about Penn State at children's birthday parties! On this episode of PUCK SOUP, we cover Patrick Roy leaving the Avs and their new coach; Jimmy Vesey picking the Rangers; the World Cup of Hockey; Greg's Olympic tales and Dave's Olympic-sized apathy; the new Las Vegas team's name; and your listener mail!

Free Agent Cookout
EGreg and Dave break down the big NHL free-agent signings, including the worst moves and love for the Lightning. Plus, the new lockout is almost here; Milan Lucic is legendary; Margot Robbie turns us down; becoming hot-take guys; Dustin Brown has a sad; Sean Avery is garbage but Greg has a weird story about him; Hollywood is recycling too much; ranking the top 8 foods to eat at a summer BBQ; and listener mail!

Keith Olbermann
EGreg and Dave analyze the P.K. Subban, Taylor Hall and Steven Stamkos blockbusters, while attempting to explain Rogie Vachon's Hall of Fame credentials; sports broadcasting legend Keith Olbermann joins us to slam Hockey Night in Canada's changes, talk NY Rangers, spin an Eric Lindros story and explain why the NHL needs ESPN; we list our 10 most fascinating free agents; your listener mail; and a few moments on the absurdities of ID4 2 and OCEAN'S 13.

2016 Puck Soup NHL Awards
EGreg and Dave present the 2016 Puck Soup NHL Awards, featuring a galaxy of star presenters and sterling production values! That, plus controversial changes on Hockey Night in Canada; the Maple Leafs and overpaying "franchise" goalies; Steven Stamkos and the Buffalo Sabres; why Buffalo isn't the new Cleveland as far as "loser" cities; the NHL in Las Vegas; why Dave hates the end of "Independence Day"; listener mail; and an exciting round of "NHL Draft Prospect, Vine Star or Los Angeles Menswear Store?

Billy Kimball
EGreg and Dave talk with VEEP writer and satirist Billy Kimball about the show's hockey plotline, how an NHL locker room is like a writers' room and why hockey is inherently funny. Plus, the Penguins win the Stanley Cup, and Phil Kessel talks to Greg; what we love about Cup celebrations; Sidney Crosby and the Conn Smythe voting controversy; the joy of steakhouses; the Ducks hire their fired coach; the Hockey Hall of Fame process; and what parts of Las Vegas we want to see in the Las Vegas NHL experience.

Kathryn Tappen and Remembering Gordie Howe
EGreg and Dave discuss the Stanley Cup Final, including why Sidney Crosby shouldn't be the playoff MVP; the terrible music at the NHL Awards; Dave's weird pizza-filled Alex Ovechkin dream; which modern players should get the "Ray Bourque" treatment; Greg talks with NBC Sports and NHL Network anchor Kathryn Tappen about hockey, life and her relationship with Mike Milbury; and a special last segment on the death of hockey legend Gordie Howe.

Stanley Cup Final and Mike "Doc" Emrick
EGreg and Dave talk about the Stanley Cup Final, including Sidney Crosby's genius, Logan Couture's whining and whether neutral fans should cheer for the Sharks or Penguins. Also, NBC announcing legend Mike "Doc" Emrick joins us to tell funny tales and talk puck. All that plus rants about the World Cup, expansion, the NHL in the Olympics, "Now You See Me 2," and a horrific story about a cleaning lady that drank Greg's vodka.

Geologist of Animal Collective
EGreg and Dave talk puck with Brian Weitz (a.k.a Geologist) of Animal Collective, including his life as a Flyers fan, his hatred of Washington fans and his rebellious 5-year-old son rejecting the former for the latter. Plus, Stanley Cup Final predictions, Sidney Crosby's reputation, Hockey Porn and Cap and Bucky are in love and on the run from Tommy Lee Jones.

Tom Cavanagh
EGreg and Dave talk hockey with actor Tom Cavanagh (The Flash, Ed, Mike and Tom Eat Snacks podcast) including Olympic memories, the Canadiens and his epic tale about almost starring in Mystery, Alaska. Plus Stanley Cup Playoffs talk, trashing NBC's studio show, the Top 6 Worst Playoff Losses Ever and reader mail that leads into a ridiculous movie title game.

Sydney Esiason
EGreg and Dave talk hockey with Sydney Esiason of SI.com, including her relationship with the Islanders' Matt Martin and how her Rangers fan father Boomer Esiason feels about it. Plus, ranking the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies and matching each one with a hockey thing; the Capitals are eliminated, and we love Phil Kessel; Bruce Boudreau and Guy Boucher get jobs; and Dave gets confused by a joke regarding the Minions and 1970s pornography.

Playoffs, Suspensions and More
EGreg and Dave discuss NHL suspensions, Stanley Cup Playoffs, happy Leafs fans and fired coaches. Also, Dave presents GAME OF THRONES 101 to Greg and the boys recreate a Pierre McGuire/Tony X. interview.

Trey Galyon
EGreg and Dave welcome comedian and Flyers fanatic Trey Galyon to talk about Round 2 of the NHL Playoffs, arena food, maniacal Philly sports fans and ESPN hockey. Plus, an epic mailbag discussion on cereal and Dave's hate for American European soccer fans.

Anthony Weiner
EGreg and Dave welcome infamous former NY Congressman Anthony Weiner to discuss his Islanders fandom, beer league goaltending and the perils of candor. Plus, Stanley Cup Playoff analysis and we yell at some poor soul for daring to step on the PUCK SOUP floor logo.

Super Mega Stanley Cup Playoffs Preview
EGreg and Dave break down Stanley Cup Playoffs' Round 1, why the NHL postseason the best and chronicle Dave's bizarre journey into teen gossip with Edward Snowden.

Katie Nolan
EGreg and Dave talk with Katie Nolan of FOX Sports 1's GARBAGE TIME about NHL vs. its fans, Boston vs. New York and Batman vs. Superman.
