Proof to Product

This week, we are amplifying the voices of black artists and business leaders by re-running three of our previous episodes. Have you ever come home from a long day at your corporate job and realized like, "Okay, so my job is feeding my family, but definitely not my soul." What do you do? Well, today's Proof to Product guest is telling us how she figured it out. By age 28, Nicole Walters was a highly-paid executive at a Fortune 500 company, managing multibillion dollar accounts, but something wasn't right. So Nicole quit her corporate job, and she made waves when she quit in front of 10,000 people while live streaming on Periscope. She went on to open her own private business and product development consulting firm, The Monetized Life. As Nicole's audience ramped up so did her revenue—she made $11,000 in the first three weeks of working with small business clients full time. Now, when she's not hanging out with her husband and their three foster kids, she shares her secrets to earning "passive income" with other entrepreneurs through her wildly popular online course, 1K1Day. "I teach people how to add commas to their bank accounts," says Nicole. "They learn that they don't have to trade time for money." On today's episode, Nicole and I sit down to talk about common mistakes she sees eager entrepreneurs making and why old school sales strategies still work. We also talk about why you can't rely solely on social media for sales, the importance of having multiple revenue streams and why you need to treat your business like a business from day one. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Common mistakes Nicole sees eager entrepreneurs making Tips on where to focus your marketing time and money The problem of relying on social media platforms Benefits of sticking with the old school methods What really gets customers in the door How to make a 40-50 hour work week feel like 4 hours The lessons Nicole took from corporate life and applied as an entrepreneur Her strongest marketing tool today Nicole's favorite success stories How saying no is a form of self care Advice for brand new business owners and entrepreneurs experiencing growing pains The importance of acting like a business from the get-go What success looks like for Nicole today For full show notes and resources, head to https://bit.ly/FromtheArchives SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

This week, we are amplifying the voices of black artists and business leaders by re-running three of our previous episodes. When we first start our businesses, more often than not, we don't have the big picture idea of what our brand or business will look like down the road. So many of us embark on this so-called maker's journey, where we truly discover our strengths, opportunities, and long term vision for our business. Lucky for us, one of our talented Paper Camp alumni, Genesis Duncan of Graphic Anthology, is joining us today on Episode 138 of Proof to Product to share her experience and advice for other makers on the path. Based in Portland, Oregon, Genesis started Graphic Anthology in 2010 with just three art prints and an Etsy shop. Almost a decade later, her product line has grown to include a wide range of greeting cards and gift items that focus on joy, simplicity, and strengthening relationships with those you love most. Today's episode is a powerful one and I know it will resonate with many of you. We talk about how Genesis started her business as a creative outlet and hobby, and why she had to shift her mindset and step into her role and title as an entrepreneur and business owner. Genesis also shares how adding a line of Spanish greeting cards was not only beneficial to her business, but also her personal development. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: What products Genesis makes and sells The sales channels she utilizes How she decided to start her own business Life's hurdles and how they led Genesis to where she is today Finding silver linings and following your heart Advice for shifting your mindset from maker to business owner How Genesis manages the tactical aspects of Graphic Anthology The importance of picking deadlines and sticking with them How Paper Camp helped solidify her business mindset What Genesis does to differentiate her products in the market Testing products, taking risks, and discovering new segments Advice for other small business owners and creative CEOs For full show notes and resources, head to https://bit.ly/FromtheArchives SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

This week, we are amplifying the voices of black artists and business leaders by re-running three of our previous episodes. Today we have a great episode in store for you with guest Jeanetta Gonzales, a Los Angeles-based graphic designer, and illustrator. Jeanetta began her career as a graphic designer working for corporate companies such as WedMD, Mattel and The Disney Store. She later parlayed her digital and fine art skills into surface design working as a textile designer and style guide designer for consumer products and creating illustrations and art that she licenses to manufacturers for products sold online and in major retail stores. On top of all of this, Jeanetta also runs her own online store where she sells her art on print items, mugs, fabric, home decor items and more. On today's episode, Jeanetta shares her experience with licensing and tells us why you have to be in it for the long game. We talk about why relationships are so important in business, why it's necessary to create art and products with a unique point of view, and her goal to spread joy through a variety of creative means. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Common misconceptions that creative entrepreneurs have about licensing their work Tips for people that are putting together their portfolio How Jeanetta defines her artistic style and keeps it original The importance of experimenting What it took to overcome fears of failure and success Her 10 year journey of learning and creating When Jeanetta started to see traction in own design work What she learned from tradeshows Being okay with not being perfect Pivoting from her day job and shifting into licensing Jeanette's favorite products to produce Her advice for other creative entrepreneurs and what's coming up next For full show notes and resources, head to https://bit.ly/FromtheArchives SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends! Are you making sure to pay yourself for your work? There's often a big misconception that only new business owners struggle with how to pay themselves for their time, effort and expertise. However, it's no secret that both new and experienced entrepreneurs run into this problem from time to time. I wanted to make things a little easier for you so in this episode I shared two simple strategies for how to pay yourself based on where you're at in your business. You'll hear why you need to pay yourself, how to choose a format of payment that works for you and why you should get on a payment schedule. I also explored why you should keep it simple (and automate where possible), the importance of revisiting your numbers as things change and of course, why you should seek advice from a CPA or financial planner. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: The misconception that only new business owners struggle with paying themselves How I paid myself at the beginning of my business My recommendations for paying yourself as an experienced business owner How you can look at data and analytics as a point of reference in when making decisions about how much to pay yourself What to look at when deciding how to use your profits For full show notes and resources, head to: bit.ly/PTPEp157 Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join the wait list for Proof to Product Labs, our new group coaching experience coming soon! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends! Are you ready to get back time in your business to work on the projects and tasks that you really love? The ones that will help you to move the needle further toward your goal? If you've been busy doing all of the things then you might be wondering if now is the right time to hire in your business. That's why I brought on Natalie Gingrich from The Ops Authority. Natalie has been in operations for two decades and now she helps online business owners with support and strategy for the operational side of their business. We get into everything you could possibly want to know about the best hiring practices. She shares how you'll know when is the right time to hire and how you can get crystal clear on the job you're looking to hire for. Natalie explains why this is critical and how an application is a key component in finding the right team member for the role. She and I discuss how to measure the value that team members are adding to your business. She also discusses why you'll want to invest a good amount of time in hiring to avoid mishaps like turnover or unrealistic expectations on either side of the hiring process. This episode is packed with so much hiring wisdom so grab a notebook, listen closely and be sure to download Natalie's free hiring guide for the next time you're looking to outsource in your business. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How Natalie knew she was ready to hire her first team member within her business Pain points and indicators to be on the lookout for when deciding if it's time to hire What you should think about when deciding what to DIY and what to outsource How to get crystal clear on what the needs are in your business Why you need to create a true job description to reduce turnover How to find the right people for the job Her advice on choosing the right candidate at the right price for the job How to measure your return on investment using key results areas Natalie's thoughts on trial periods and onboarding processes How you can use the Hiring Plan for your next hire Her plans for launching an association and what's coming next in her business For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp156 Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join Proof to Product Labs, our new community experience OPEN NOW! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

How amazing does it sound to have someone else take over your packing and shipping needs? Think about it… How many hours a day (or even a week) could that save you? Having a fulfillment warehouse that takes care of this for you could lend you time in your busy schedule. It might even be able to save you money in the long run. In this episode, I had the pleasure of talking about that with Paper Camp Alum, Jomana Siddiqui. Jomana is the creative behind 3, yes you heard that right, 3 different businesses. She runs a graphic design business called Pences Design Studio, a retail business named modernEID all while authoring a lifestyle blog. We get into what her experience was with working with a manufacturing company in China. Plus, the hiccup she faced after working with them. She shares how using a fulfillment center changed her business for the better. Jomana also discusses how connections and being in the right place at the right time can help land partnerships with brands you dream of working with. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How Jomana got started with her three different businesses How she balances the time she spends on each of her companies Using content batching to get work completed Her manufacturing process and how it's evolved over time How working with a fulfillment center was a huge turning point in her business Jomana's worries about using a fulfillment center Her experience of working with a manufacturing company in China The process she went through to find new manufacturers How her partnerships with Macy's, Saks Fifth Avenue and Walmart came about What she wishes she'd have known when starting her businesses What's next for Jomana's brands For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp155 Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join Proof to Product Labs, our new community experience OPEN NOW! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Earlier this week, my friend Kristen Ley of Thimblepress and KristenLey.com and I hosted a free webinar where we talked about taking our business temperature. As small business owners so much of our time is spent working with our head down working on the most urgent and pressing things that need our attention. Taking your business temperature means that you're intentionally making time to stop and look at the bigger picture vision, strategy and execution of your business plans. Today's episode is a replay from the live webinar we hosted. We talked about how often you should be taking your business temperature, where to start if you've never taken your business temperature, and Kristen and I share examples of things we've learned about ourselves and our business by doing these check-ins. I also share the four key factors I consider when making decisions in my business and explain how you can leverage them, too. Before we jump in, I wanted to remind you that May 8th is the last day to join Proof to Product Labs as a Founding Member. Founding members get 5 incredible bonuses including my profitability calculator and production schedule planner AND they lock in our discounted rate of $49/month for as long as they are a member. The bonuses will go away and the price will jump to $79/mo starting May 9th. So head to prooftoproduct.com/labs to secure your founding member spot! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How often we should be taking our business temperature What types of things we should review & look at in our business Examples of something I started doing more of based on these check-ins Examples of things I started doing less of Four key considerations for making business decisions Where new businesses should start with their business check-ins When to hire a bookkeeper RESOURCES:Kristen Ley's free Facebook Group PTP Podcast episode with Greg Higdon of Grow the Books CONNECT: Kristen Ley, Thimblepress - @kristen_ley and @thimblepress YOU DON'T HAVE TO GROW YOUR BUSINESS ALONE! Get 12 months of coaching & community inside Proof to Product Labs ✔ Live monthly masterclass​✔ Live monthly group coaching calls✔ Resources & tools built for product businesses✔ Private community (not on Facebook!)✔ Exclusive discounts from our PTP Partners Plus 5 Founding Member bonuses that will save you time, money and effort! ​All for only $49/month through May 8th! Join us! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends! Are you ready for copy that converts? If you said yes, which I am sure you did then I am positive you'll enjoy today's episode. I had a conversation with Prerna Malik, a certified conversion copywriter and co-founder of Content Bistro. Prerna has mastered the recipe for writing copy that balances persuasion and personality with the scientific precision of conversion science to ensure that you are maximizing sales. Prerna shares some of her BEST copywriting tips (and mistakes to watch out for!) She goes in-depth on how to use tools such as heat mapping to measure if your copy is working for you. You'll hear what you should look for when hiring a copywriter including what you should have in place beforehand. She also shares why your copy needs personalization to be effective. If you've got copy that just isn't giving you the results you desire then you'll definitely want to hear this episode. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: The most important piece of content for your website How Prerna got into conversion copywriting What conversion copywriting is The types of projects Prerna does for product based business owners and eCommerce shops Why you must personalize copy if you want to build relationships and see results How to know if a copywriter will be a fit for your brand voice Why your copy needs to have the same vibe throughout platforms The assets and details you need to have ready before hiring a copywriter Why every email sequence needs to have a marketing goal Why you need to have your audience established before writing copy Mistakes that product based business owners are making with regards to their copy Tools to pay attention to and how to leverage measuring metrics What Prerna's working on for Content Bistro For full show notes and resources head to bit.ly/PTPEp154 Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join Proof to Product Labs, our new community experience OPEN NOW! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends! You might know that you need to set financial goals for your business. But maybe you feel like you have absolutely no idea where to start. Maybe you feel overwhelmed even thinking about it? Whatever the case, if that sounds like you then you're in for a treat with today's live coaching session. I caught up with Paper Camp alumni, Jessica Baskin to give her the low-down on setting financial goals for your business. Jessica got real about the financial mindset challenges she's been facing and together, we broke them down. I offered her a few actionable steps she could take to get her more aligned with her numbers. We talked about how she could get clear on who she's speaking to which would improve her marketing efforts (and in turn get her closer to those financial goals). This conversation uncovered a few of the best practices for determining what your highest and best use products (or services) for your business. Of course, I also gave Jessica some homework around her financial goals where she'll be taking a look at the good, better and best financial number goals. This is essential because if you know your goals, you know exactly what to aim for. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How Jessica got into her business and started Joy Lark Studio Jessica's main goal that she wants to improve upon on in her business The two ways that Katie advises companies to approach their finances when setting financial goals Creating good, better and best number goals for yourself so you know what to aim for Identifying the revenue streams that are the highest and best use for your business Katie's advice for Jessica about getting crystal clear on which audience to speak to first Why your outreach strategy may be different depending on your audience Making a marketing plan to help you hit your financial goals Why you should have a backup plan for slower months of business to continue pushing toward your financial goals For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp153 Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join Proof to Product Labs, our new community experience OPEN NOW! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends! With the current state of our world, I thought it'd be great to bring someone on the podcast who radiates optimism and confidence. In this episode, you'll be hearing my conversation with Jess Ekstrom, founder of Headbands of Hope and the author of Chasing the Bright Side. Jess and I dive deep into how she's built her business and it's growth over the past eight years. Through her years in business, she's learned how to find new solutions to support her customers on both the retail and wholesale side. We also talk about how she's had to pivot her business during this time which prompted her to host a virtual conference. She shares how she got the co-founder of Netflix to speak at her conference (pretty cool, right?!) She also talks about why she believes in "throwing darts and seeing what sticks" in her business. We get into what it truly means to chase the bright side. She gives her advice about maintaining your childlike optimism throughout life. Jess and I discuss how to use downtime to recenter yourself (which can bring forth more creativity and innovation!) ON TODAY'S EPISODE: What prompted Jess to write her book, Chasing the Bright Side Being optimistic about your products and the impact they have on the world Her advice on the steps to take to become more optimistic Why Jess believes confidence is more important than knowledge Maintaining a childlike optimism as you get older Why Jess started Headbands of Hope Trusting your gut when making decisions How she's shifted her mission for her business over the past year How Jess has built her business on "throwing darts and seeing what sticks" Hosting a virtual tradeshow on YouTube Figuring out how to continue to provide value during this time Pivoting their donation model to help overcome the mask shortage that hospitals are facing Using your downtime to recenter yourself to help spark creativity and innovation What the My Bright Side campaign is and why she started it What's coming next for Headbands of Hope How Jess got the cofounder of Netflix to be a speaker at her virtual conference For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp152 Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join the wait list for Proof to Product Labs, our new community experience coming soon! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Last week I shared how I'm getting back to basics and what I'm focusing on in my business right now. And, today I'm bringing some of my mastermind clients back on the show to talk about how they are proactively taking steps to diversify and strengthen their business. Today's episode features Lisa Sarmento from Tiramisu Paperie, Kiwi Schloffel from Craft Boner and Sara McNally from Constellation & Co. and Snail Mail Superstar Some key take-aways that I want to point out from today's episode: This episode is a great example of how different companies have been affected by covid-19. It is also a great reminder that while there are a lot of things happening around us right now that we CAN NOT control. There are a lot of things we do control. We do have power to make changes to our products, shift our messaging and pivot how we're supporting our customers. I'm really proud of these ladies, and everyone in my mastermind group for being agile and creative in how they are doing business right now. We all need to keep pushing forward — and they are doing just that. Be sure to check out our #papercampalum hashtag on Instagram to see new products, promotions and behind the scenes of the small businesses in our Paper Camp community. I've also included the links to today's guests in our show notes -- thanks for supporting small businesses! LINKS: Proof to Product Mastermind Lisa Sarmento, Tiramisu Paperie - www.tiramisupaperie.com | @tiramisupaperie Kiwi Schloffel, Craft Boner - www.craftboner.com | @craftboner | Youtube Sara McNally, Constellation & Co - www.constellationco.com | @constellationco | Snail Mail Superstar Follow the small businesses in our Paper Camp Community on Instagram by using the #papercampalum hashtag SMALL WINS LEAD TO BIG WINS Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join the wait list for Proof to Product Labs, our new community experience coming soon! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends! As much of the world is currently in isolation and practicing social distancing, I wanted to encourage you. I hope this episode will help you find direction in this uncertain time and remind you to keep pushing forward. To be completely honest, my head was spinning with things that I wanted to say but I know we're all facing completely different circumstances. None of us have ever faced something like this before and we're all going through something different from one another. Business advice isn't a one size fits all and what works for one person may not work for someone else so today I want to share what I'm doing in my business in case it's relatable or helpful for you. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How right now is an unprecedented time and we're all dealing with this in different ways Setting priorities within the business Taking a look at your business finances to examine your runway and unnecessary expenses Stripping down to the basics of executing certain processes Connecting with your people - clients, colleagues, community members For Full Show Notes and Resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp150 Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join the wait list for Proof to Product Labs, our new group coaching experience coming soon! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

I sat down with my financial planner, Mary Beth Storjohann today to talk about financial relief and resources for small businesses available through the CARES Act. Today we're talking about the Economic Injury Disaster Loan (also called EIDL), the Paycheck Protection Program (also called PPP) and the Deferral of Payment of Payroll Taxes. This is an ever evolving situation right now, so Mary Beth is sharing the current details with us today, April 3rd. Remember to stay calm, I know things feel stressful right now but there a a variety of options and forms of aid available to all of us. I encourage you to reach out to your CPAs & financial planners to figure out which plans are best for you. And, if you decide to apply for PPP, apply with the bank that you're currently doing your business banking with. Check the links below for more information: LINKS: EIDL:https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianthompson1/2020/03/29/getting-cash-for-your-small-business-through-the-cares-act/#c053e4d43a0a https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/disaster-assistance Lender Match:https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/loans Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) Info: Borrowershttps://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/loans/coronavirus-relief-options/paycheck-protection-program-ppp https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/PPP--Fact-Sheet.pdf https://www.uschamber.com/sites/default/files/023595_comm_corona_virus_smallbiz_loan_final.pdf https://www.sbc.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/2/9/29fc1ae7-879a-4de0-97d5-ab0a0cb558c8/1BC9E5AB74965E686FC6EBC019EC358F.the-small-business-owner-s-guide-to-the-cares-act-final-.pdf https://www.sba.gov/page/coronavirus-covid-19-small-business-guidance-loan-resources https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/loans/paycheck-protection-program-ppp https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-anatomy-of-the-2-trillion-covid-19-stimulus-bill/ Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join the wait list for Proof to Product Labs, our new group coaching experience coming soon! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Kristen Ley recently asked me and our peer mastermind group to come together for a free webinar to support & encourage other small business owners. It was such an amazing conversation that I asked Kristen if we could rerun the audio version here on our podcast, so today's episode is just that. Today's episode features feedback from me, Kristen Ley of Thimblepress, Tonya Dalton of Inkwell Press, Jenn Jett of The Well Summit and Myrna Daramy of Myrna & Co. We discuss how we're handling COVID-19 in our own businesses, recommendations for other small business owners, how to serve your customers, what to prioritize right now and we even share how we're navigating working from home with children. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How small businesses can navigate COVID-19 Why community is so important Why now is the perfect time to invest in yourself & your business What we're prioritizing in our own businesses Tips for working at home with children What we're optimistic about during this weird & crazy time. For full show notes and resources, visit bit.ly/PTPEP149 Small Wins Lead to Big Wins Building a business is a long game, won with patience, fortitude, intentional decisions and passion.​ ​​Slow sustainable growth is how strong businesses are built and we want to help you get there. ​Join the wait list for Proof to Product Labs, our new group coaching experience coming soon! SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

I was on the phone with Zoe Scharf of Greetabl this morning and we decided to hit record on our conversation. As you may remember, Zoe is one of our Paper Camp alumni and she was on episode 50 of Proof to Product telling her start up story, then she came back for episode 88 where she talked about email sequences and how they love on their clients. Today we're talking about a new program that Zoe and the team at Greetabl are launching to support small business owners and independent makers called The Platform Partner Program. Listen on for details about how the program works, how you can apply and what Zoe feels optimistic about during this Covid-19 pandemic. RESOURCES: www.greetabl.com Application | www.greetabl.com/apply 050 | How angel investing fueled their business growth with Zoe Scharf, Greetabl 88 | Email Sequences, Sales Funnels and Facebook Ads with Zoë Scharf from Greetabl SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends! Has the thought of expanding into new product categories crossed your mind lately? You aren't alone! In fact, today I had on a Paper Camp alumni for a live coaching session where we chat ALL about her hopes to expand into new product categories. It can be pretty scary to try to logistically plan for expansion but I think today's episode will be really helpful for all of you who are looking to bring on more products to serve your people. What are the first steps to this process? For today's guest, Tomi Hill of Little Happy Things, we broke down the steps she needs to take to make this happen and since it was a coaching episode, I gave her my advice and some homework so she could start taking action right away! I challenged her to start thinking and dreaming big about the new product category she'd want to layer in and to start setting some goals around that. We broke through some of the barriers that have been holding her back and had a frank discussion about diving deeper into the people you really want to serve. At the end of the day, it's about recognizing WHO your customer is at the core - what kind of solutions are you providing for them? What problems do they have that your products solve? What stores do they shop at? We also touch on digging into the financials (because knowing your numbers is key to success) and looking through your numbers from both a retail and wholesale lense. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Why Tomi got into her business, Little Happy Things Transitioning away from wooden dolls into enamel pins, stickers and other gift items Making the leap from an Etsy shop to a wholesale model Making all of your products cohesive with one another Determining which products sell the best (and honing in on those) Looking at your products from a financial and passion perspective Layering in one new product category at a time to figure out the manufacturing process, fulfillment and the numbers (and of course, profits!) Getting to know your audience personally and finding out what they want and need Dialing it back to the basics, no matter how new or seasoned your business is For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp148 SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Have you ever considered how building a strong brand can make you stand out and ultimately help your business stand the test of time? Today's guest is Paper Camp alumni Rebecca Townsend. Rebecca is the owner and creative director of Seaside Designs. She literally built her whole business around her love for the beach and sea. Pretty fascinating, right? The business didn't always come easy and she's had to overcome many ups and downs through her entrepreneurial journey. She rode the rocky tides of being a business owner and now she's riding the waves of success. In this episode, she shares her story of navigating a huge rough patch that made her shut down her business and the story of her resurrecting it and bringing it back to life. We talk about her experience of overcoming burnout and figuring out a way to work smarter, not harder. She shares her research and development process for products and how she balances the financial risks of expansion (you might be surprised to hear how she does it). Rebecca gives her advice for other business owners who want to expand into new product categories and shares what's next for Seaside Designs including why she's decided to focus on sustainable packaging. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Why Rebecca has kept her brand identity the same throughout the years in her business How she's built her brand based on her vision The evolution of her product mix How she got into wholesale after being discovered by local retailers at craft shows Going through a rough patch, being burnt out and closing her business Making a plan to bring her business back in a more sustainable way How Paper Camp helped her to streamline processes for inventory and production Bringing more products back into the mix and designing her products to be a cohesive line Her process for research and development of products How she balances the financial risk of expansion The benefits she's seen with widening her product mix Tactics she uses to leverage social media as a marketing tool Using social media to connect with both retail and wholesale customers Rebecca's advice for business owners considering new product categories What Rebecca has coming up for her business, Seaside Designs For full show notes and resources, head to http://bit.ly/PTPEp147 SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hi Friends — I know that things in the world feel heavy and uncertain right now, so I wanted to share some important reminders and tips: This won't last forever. Stay calm and remember that this won't last forever. I know the uncertainty is unnerving, and we all have different circumstances that we're dealing with — but this will end at some point. Understand your finances. Take a look at what you have in your business and personal reserves. Look at your monthly expenses and see what you can curb temporarily (tech, supplies, reduce or postpone your next new release, etc). We don't know how long this will last, so be conservative in your spending. Assess your income streams and anticipated revenue for the next 3-6 months. What orders or projects may be postponed? How can you incentivize your current customers? Do you have savings to lean on? Identify supplemental income options If product sales are down, think about picking up design work or other freelance gigs on Upwork, Fiver or through your local communities. Consider small business loans - SBA loans, Fundbox, Kabbage, even PayPal offers small business loans if you need some extra cash temporarily. As a last resort, you can also pull money out of a retirement account or 401k. There are large fees associated with early withdrawal and the market is down right now, so I don't recommend this unless absolutely necessary Have a back-up / continuity plan Who can you trust to run things if you or a family member gets sick and you're unable to work. My financial planner recommends identifying a few people who understand the business and who you trust to step in if you need to step out. This could be family, a friend, or even a colleague. Use this time to work on your business. Back-end systems & processes, update our website, play creatively, design new products, take photos, update your catalog, pre-plan social media content or write emails…. All of the things that you've been putting off, use this time to prep what you can for when things get back to normal. Change your messaging. Remember that many of your customers are also small business owners and they are feeling their own stress & anxiety. If you're sending out marketing emails, change your messaging — acknowledge what's going on in the world, how we're all in this together and ask how you can support them. Sales are going to be slower right now because people are concerned about their personal lives and their own businesses. But, reaching out to clients and letting them know you care will help to build the relationship — which they will appreciate when this is all over. Give yourself time to process your feelings. We all react to stressful situations in different ways. We all are dealing with different personal and business circumstances. Give yourself time to process how you're feeling, what your concerns are and how you want to proceed. Take care of yourself, your family and your team — that is the main priority right now. Leverage our community You have a whole group of people here who understand what it's like to run a small business. We're all feeling the crunch & uncertainty — but we have each other. Share what's working. Check in with each other. Let's help to keep each other calm and focused on getting through this together. We will get through this. We will be ok.

Hey friends, have you ever considered how you could leverage point of sale systems for trend tracking and buying decisions? Biff Ulm, founder of MN Nice Enough came on the podcast today to share how he uses technology to help grow his business and how he relies on the help of sales reps to ensure his store is stocked with products that are a fit for his customers. Biff has a rich background in the product based business industry and has seen all sides of it including owning his own brick and mortar business, selling eCommerce, doing wholesale, as well as creating his own products. He's done it all and has a vast wealth of knowledge in this line of business. In this episode, we talk about everything from the challenges he's faced from having multiple streams of revenue, what numbers he tracks, how he cultivates wholesale relationships and the importance of studying what bigger brands are doing in their businesses. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Biff's background in the product based business industry His experience in selling retail at a brick and mortar, online sales, wholesale and creating his own products Challenges he's faced from having different streams of revenue His three key principles and the motivator that keeps him going The technology he uses to help guide his business decisions and how he leverages data to pick up on trends in his store What numbers Biff tracks on a regular basis His preferred method for cultivating wholesale relationships and finding new products Biff's experience with using sales reps for his business Studying what bigger companies are doing in their business What's coming next for MN Nice Enough For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp146 SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Today's guest Rebecca Inkrote has a fantastic story that I can't wait to share with you guys. She gives her insight on the best ways to transition from a third party platform to your own website (plus how to build brand recognition and steps to make it go smooth). Rebecca got her start in the creative entrepreneur space when she started making soaps as a hobby. It quickly turned into a business that brought her into Facebook groups with other handmade business owners and it was there where she recognized how much she could help entrepreneurs in this space. As a graphic designer, she was well versed in the areas of technology and found this niche of hers to be an area she could stand out in. In this episode, Rebecca shares how she stumbled into this path, the growing pains one can face when transitioning from a third party platform to their own website and the benefits of having your own eCommerce website. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: The biggest mistakes that Rebecca sees product based business owners making on their website and eCommerce shop How Rebecca stumbled into teaching others and helping them build their own website Growing pains from transitioning from a third party platform to your own website Benefits of having your own eCommerce website Steps to take when transitioning to your own eCommerce platform How getting your domain to match your brand name helps with brand recognition What services and digital products Rebecca offers for clients Educating and empowering her clients to take charge of their own websites Rebecca's thoughts on Shopify, WordPress, Squarespace, etc. and choosing what systems to use Where Rebecca sees her business moving going forward For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp145 SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends! We're going to be switching things up a little for today's episode. I've decided that once a month we'll be airing a live coaching session with one of my coaching clients or a Paper Camp alumni on the podcast. It'll be a short, hot seat format coaching session where the guest will talk about what they're working on and what they need help with. I'll be giving them my candid off the cuff advice, recommendations and even some homework because we're all about taking action! For our first live coaching episode, I was joined by Paper Camp alumni, Shirlee Fisher of Quiet Lines Design. She has a few hesitations and questions about the timing of her launch and the wholesale market. We work through the three things she needs to prepare and make ready before the launch so she can launch her products confidently. In this episode, we chat about lining up your launch with the release cycles of the stationery industry, why having 40+ skews will help you get more customers and why sometimes you have to wait until things are ready. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How Shirlee got started in her business, Quiet Lines Design What she's currently working on in her business and what she needs help with Planning to launch to coordinate with certain events and cycles Why you need to feel confident in what you're creating Why the PTP team recommends having 48 skews during Paper Camp How sometimes it's necessary to wait until things are ready The biggest fears that Shirlee has about product launches Katie's homework for Shirlee and listeners Getting strategic with a tiered outreach approach to building relationships For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp144

Part 1: Last week I took a whirlwind trip to New York to visit with more than 40 of our Paper Camp alumni who were exhibiting at NY Now and the National Stationery Show. It was so exciting to see everyone's hard work live and in person — their new products were innovative, their booths were beautiful and their confidence was shining through. It was awesome. While I was there, I was able to grab some time with a handful of our alumni to talk shop about the show, goals they set and how they plan to follow-up after the show. We're breaking this into a two-part series. The first part features several of our veteran exhibitors from the Paper Camp family including Rebekah from Wild Ink Press, Christina from Public School Paper Co, Beth from Little Goat Paper Co, Jeni from E. Frances Paper and Juliana from Good Juju Ink. In Part 2 on Thursday, we're sharing interviews with Paper Camp alumni who were exhibiting in the emerging artists' section as well as first-time exhibitors! Today's show features Rachel from Hazel & Dolly, Chandler from Joy Paper Co, Lisa from Rhino Parade, Janine from Kwohtations, Tammie from Tiger Pocket Press and Juana from Loteria Press. ON TODAY'S EPISODE : Rachel Barlock: Hazel + Dolly Chandler Cooksey: Joy Paper Co. Lisa Mohar: Rhino Parade Janine Kwoh: Kwothations Tammie Bennett: Tigerpocket Press Juana Meneses: Loteria Press RESOURCES: Paper Camp E-Course SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Part 1: Last week I took a whirlwind trip to New York to visit with more than 40 of our Paper Camp alumni who were exhibiting at NY Now and the National Stationery Show. It was so exciting to see everyone's hard work live and in person — their new products were innovative, their booths were beautiful and their confidence was shining through. It was awesome. While I was there, I was able to grab some time with a handful of our alumni to talk shop about the show, goals they set and how they plan to follow-up after the show. We're breaking this into a two-part series. The first part features several of our veteran exhibitors from the Paper Camp family including Rebekah from Wild Ink Press, Christina from Public School Paper Co, Beth from Little Goat Paper Co, Jeni from E. Frances Paper and Juliana from Good Juju Ink. In Part 2 on Thursday, we're sharing interviews with Paper Camp alumni who were exhibiting in the emerging artists' section as well as first-time exhibitors! Today's show features Rachel from Hazel & Dolly, Chandler from Joy Paper Co, Lisa from Rhino Parade, Janine from Kwohtations, Tammie from Tiger Pocket Press and Juana from Loteria Press. ON TODAY'S EPISODE : Rebekah Tennis: Wild Ink Press Christina Williams: Public School Paper Co. Beth Roszkowski: Little Goat Paper Co. Jeni Laundon: E. Frances Good Paper Juliana Kissick: Good Juju Ink RESOURCES: Paper Camp E-Course SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

For Cecily Moore, her business, The Paper Curator, started as a blog and over time, transitioned into a product based business. She first began her journey while working at a job and trying to find the next step in her career. She thought, "why not start a blog?" From there she began to document the creative endeavors she pursued in her everyday life before launching her first products. She gives us a breakdown of her first craft show experience, her Paper Camp journey and what she's learned from attending the show. We chat about how putting ample effort into her research and development has helped her build a sustainable business. Today's episode dives deep into what it means to bootstrap your business and build everything from the ground up. She talks about how she decides whether to invest in equipment to help her create her products, how bootstrapping has integrated into her wholesale strategy and budget and what it's been like scaling her handmade products into wholesale. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: How Cecily started a blog before transitioning to a product-based business Learning to hold herself accountable by structuring her posting schedule Making the shift from being a hobby to a full-fledged business Her first craft show experience and how she prepared to launch her products How Cecily ended up coming to Paper Camp and her goals for attending the show How taking her time on research and development paid off when getting inventory and fulfillment in place Why Cecily believes in bootstrapping success and how this looks in her day-to-day business operations How Cecily makes decisions on whether or not to invest in equipment for creating products What has made wholesale an easier process for her How her bootstrapping mentality has been integrated into the wholesale strategy and budget Making a long-lasting impression in her first trade show Cecily's advice for someone starting a creative business What's coming for The Paper Curator For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPEp143 SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends, when you're building your wholesale business there's no doubt that you'll be headed to trade shows to get your product out there and in front of the right buyers. The reality is, trade shows are expensive and you don't want to waste a single minute while exhibiting. In this episode, I reverse engineer what it really costs to exhibit at a trade show from an hourly rate perspective. This will help you to realize how much every hour counts while exhibiting and the importance of using your time to connect with others, write orders and doing market research. It's not the time to be admiring other people's products or talking to your booth neighbors (there's plenty of time to do that during break down or set up or even after hours). I talk about why you need to know your numbers, how Paper Camp helps attendees to know where to save money and where to splurge during shows and the importance of preparation. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Thinking about trade show expenses from an hourly rate perspective A breakdown of how much it costs per hour to exhibit Why you need to stay in your booth when exhibiting at tradeshows The importance of knowing your numbers How Paper Camp helps you become aware of where to save and where to splurge on shows Why you should be prepared before investing in trade shows For full show notes and resources, head to bit.ly/PTPep142 SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Does the thought of bookkeeping make you feel uneasy? I know that for so many creatives, knowing your numbers and doing your bookkeeping can feel a bit overwhelming. That's why I brought on today's guest because let's face it... The reality is that even though numbers aren't always our favorite, they are essential for knowing your business' financial health and profitability. Today you'll hear from Greg Higdon, founder of Grow the Books, a bookkeeping company for small businesses. Greg helps entrepreneurs with a done for you service but he also helps those who want to DIY to understand what they need to know about reconciling their numbers. We explore the topic of bookkeeping and how you'll know when it's time to outsource this task to someone else. We also talk about what questions you should ask before hiring a bookkeeper, the importance of setting aside time to do your bookkeeping and why sometimes you need to have someone outside of your business looking at the numbers. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Misconceptions that small business owners have on bookkeeping and knowing their numbers How often a bookkeeper reconciles for their clients Programs and systems that Greg recommends for bookkeeping Having extra reconciliation to verify transactions are correct Problems that can occur when you don't reconcile with the bookkeeping software What you should have in place before hiring a bookkeeper Knowing your numbers so you can get a good idea on your return on investment Questions you should ask before hiring a bookkeeper Greg's advice for people who want to DIY their books Setting aside time to do your own bookkeeping Why it's beneficial to have someone outside of your business looking at the numbers Leaning into your weaknesses and asking for help in those areas What's next for Grow the Books KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "A bookkeeper is the one that does the day to day, like categorizing your transactions. Anything going in and out of your bank accounts or credit card counts is what a bookkeeper does." - Greg Higdon "It's good to have that extra reconciliation in there just to make sure you're verifying everything's correct." - Greg Higdon "Looking at where the money's coming in and going allowed me to make better decisions in my business and I put it off because I was intimidated by it. I didn't want to deal with it. I had other things that felt like they were more important. But the minute I did start paying attention to it, I felt like my business grew." - Katie Hunt "I definitely recommend bookkeeping software." - Greg Higdon "I think it's very helpful to have someone just kind of walk you through the steps of what you need to be doing monthly." - Greg Higdon "Once you have the technology and once you've got the training on how to do it, then it's about leveraging that and making sure, well, doing the work and making sure you've got it all there, but then leveraging it for your business so that you're making smarter better decisions." - Katie Hunt "I know even with my own business, what I've realized is just putting something on my calendar is big." - Greg Higdon "We make time for all of our clients and all of our customers and yet we have a tough time making time to do these things for ourselves." - Katie Hunt "I know that as a business owner there are a lot of things that you have to do. I know that from my own business and it's hard to get to certain things in your business." - Greg Higdon "When I hired a bookkeeper, it opened my eyes to the possibilities of how I could grow my business better. It opened my eyes to where my money was truly coming from revenue-wise and which portions of my business were most profitable." - Katie Hunt RESOURCES: Quickbooks Online Xero MEET GREG: Greg Higdon is the Founder of Grow the Books, a bookkeeping company for small businesses. With over 13 years of experience in education, he teaches his clients so they are empowered and armed with a clearer understanding of what their numbers mean for their business decisions. When he isn't balancing books and helping clients you can find him roasting coffee, drinking coffee, and reading about coffee. CONNECT WITH GREG: Website: http://www.growthebooks.com Facebook: @growthebooks Instagram: @growthebooks Pinterest: @growthebooks Email: [email protected] SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product wi

Today we're so happy to have Robin Long on for Episode 141 of Proof to Product. Robin is the founder of The Balanced Life, a website that provides quick and effective Pilates workouts for busy women. Robin made the transition from the traditional teaching model of working in studios, gyms and training private clients to serve her clients online. On today's episode, Robin shares how she shifted from the more traditional service offering into a successful membership model for her service based business. She tells us why she has decided to grow her business slowly and organically - ensuring that she's building a business that fits her lifestyle and brings her joy. Robin and I dive into how she's used drop shipping to add additional income streams to her business and why she decided to create physical products for her service based business. She opens up about her experience with building her team including why going on maternity leave has helped her to put more strategic systems in place. We talk about setting boundaries, hesitations she had before moving to a membership model and her advice for someone who is just getting started in business. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Why Robin shifted from the traditional teaching model of pilates to serving clients online How she came to have a membership model, community-based program Hesitations that Robin faced when moving to a membership model Setting boundaries for yourself as an entrepreneur How Robin uses the drop shipping method in her business Robin's thought process behind adding products to her service-based business Using products as a membership perk Challenges she's had since adding products to her business Why Robin believes in slow, intentional growth for her company Robin's experience of growing from a solo entrepreneur to building a team How being forced to give up control has been a blessing for her Taking a sabbatical and putting systems in place for a seamless workflow Robin's advice for the business owner who is just getting started Gaining inspiration from other industries and taking that into the fitness world to do her own thing What's next for The Balanced Life RESOURCES: Clockwork: Design Your Business to Run Itself MEET ROBIN: Robin Long lives and works in sunny Santa Barbara, CA as the founder and CEO of The Balanced Life – a website that provides quick & effective Pilates workouts for busy women. She is a certified Pilates instructor and passionate about creating programs that empower, strengthen, restore, and rejuvenate her clients from the inside out. She believes in a guilt-free, balanced approach to health & fitness and is passionate about helping women love and care for their bodies in the midst of busy lives. Outside of The Balanced Life, she can be found chasing her 6- year-old daughter, 3-year-old son, and 1-year-old twins, sneaking in 10-minute workouts during the kids' bath time, and spending time at the beach. CONNECT WITH ROBIN: Website: https://thebalancedlifeonline.com/ Facebook: @thebalancedlife Instagram: @thebalancedlife Pinterest: @robinlong SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey Friends! Winter show season is kicking off so we thought we would re-run this episode from last year. We have alumni going to Atlanta, Japan, Las Vegas and of course NY Now and NSS in February. It is show season so we wanted to get this front and center for you so you could get ready for your show or just here what is going on at market. Enjoy! -------------- Hey Friends! I just got back from NY Now and the National Stationery Show in New York where more than 39 Tradeshow Bootcamp alumni and speakers exhibited this year. It was an incredible trip, for everyone from first timers to seasoned pros, and I'm so excited to share the highlights with you on the Podcast this week! This year is the first time that these two shows have run at the same time. The National Stationery Show has typically been held in May, but moved for February to co-locate with NY Now. The move of NSS caused a bit of a stir within our industry, and our Tradeshow Bootcamp community and the move of the show is one of the topics we're addressing on the episodes this week. We had alumni exhibiting at both NY Now and the National Stationery show, so we decided to break up this week's episode into two parts. On Part 1, airing today, we revisit the best parts of the National Stationery Show with Cecily Moore of The Paper Curator, Jenna Puente of Paper Wilderness, Rosanna Kvernmo of Iron Curtain Press, Genesis Duncan of Graphic Anthology, Krystal Whitten of Krystal Whitten Studio and Joe Mihalow of XOU.

Happy 2020 friends! For our first episode back in the New Year, my friend Kristen Ley of Thimblepress is back on the show. Kristen was first featured on Episode 4 of Proof to Product back where we talked about how she fell into business backwards and discussed tips on partnerships and collaborations. That episode was recorded back in early 2017 and since then, Kristen has done a lot of soul searching and ridden the waves of transition and upheaval in both her business and personal life. On today's episode, Kristen bravely shares what she learned from her journey. She talks about why she decided to let go of all her sales reps, say goodbye to 15 employees, downsize her warehouse and office space and discontinue over a hundred SKUs in the Thimblepress line. Kristen not only shares her journey of reevaluating what she wanted to get out of her business, but also how she implemented those changes. Today's episode is a heartfelt one full of advice, wisdom and encouragement for anyone feeling stuck in their business or worried about the changes they need to make. Friends, remember this is your business. You set the rules and at any time you can decide to go a different way. I hope Kristen's story helps you and I hope you enjoy it. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: - What external success can look like from an internal perspective - Big wake-up calls and dealing with worse case scenarios - Differentiating personal success from society - Advice for individuals and business owners walking through tough times - Getting back to the basics & reevaluating the model - How to avoid social media comparison traps - Why Kristen decided to cut all her sales reps and get back to the drawing board - The importance of keeping direct communication with wholesale & retail partners - Having the courage to say goodbye - The heart-wise money tool - How to deal with feelings of imposter syndrome - What's selling and how to deal with what's not - Balancing wellness and business - Kristen's big plans for 2020 KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "It was keep going, go, go, go, go, keep achieving, keep achieving, keep achieving. And I don't think I even registered how I was functioning in my daily life until I had a really big wake up." – Kristen Ley "I got to a point I was so sad that I was like, "All I can do is pray and move forward." – Kristen Ley "I really looked to the world to define what is successful. I looked at others to define what I should be doing. I looked at everybody else except for me to say what do you want? So I had to redefine what I wanted." – Kristen Ley "I just love to make products. I love to draw art. I love to create. And I love to create joy in other people's lives. That was my why. " – Kristen Ley "In the world we live in, we get so caught up in what other people are doing on social media. It's just the world we live in. We see the beautiful pictures, but we don't see the things behind those photos." – Kristen Ley "It is easy to get wrapped up in feeling like you're chasing the next thing in your business, especially when you're just hustling and growing." – Katie Hunt "It's not about getting off the phone quickly, it's about asking, "What's going on in our world, in our economy? Tell me about your life." Because at the end of the day it's all about relationships." – Kristen Ley "We need to regularly be reassessing why we're doing this. To make sure that we are on the right path and we're focused on the right things." – Katie Hunt "If it's not taking up a whole lot of time and it's not draining you emotionally, and it's still making good money. That's where you need to be spending your time." – Katie Hunt "Working with female entrepreneurs has been one of my most cherished heart passion projects of my life. It brings me so much joy, and if I can prevent one person from walking through that struggle that I walked through, let's rock and roll." – Kristen Ley "Don't put yourself into shock by trying to do all the changes at once. Give yourself grace." – Kristen Ley "Don't go just dumping energy into things without walking through the journey of how it will impact your person." – Kristen Ley "Running a business is hard work. You can't change that, but you can change your mentality of how you approach things, and you get to choose." – Katie Hunt LINKS Website: https://kristenley.com/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/thimblepress Https://instagram.com/kristen_ley SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, he

As we head into the holidays, I want to take a moment to reflect back on 2019 and look forward to what's in store for 2020. I encourage you to do the same! 2019 was an amazing year around here. We published 58 podcast episodes this year and surpassed 400,000 downloads. This show has been live for almost 3 years and during that time we've taken very few breaks. We bring you fresh, new content weekly and sometimes multiple times a week and I have a small team of highly talented people that ensure each episode gets to your ears — and I'm eternally grateful for each and every one of them. This podcast wouldn't exist if it weren't for them. We welcomed over 150 new students to the Paper Camp family through our conference and online course. Our conference moved to a new venue that gave us more room to spread out both inside & outside — and lots of amazing natural light. I often joke that I want people that come to Paper Camp to feel like they are being welcomed into my home and surrounded by new friends — this venue is a great spot for us to connect, learn and grow together. And, this year, we underwent a major rebrand transitioning my 8 year old business from its original name Tradeshow Bootcamp to our new name Proof to Product. This project stretched me in so many ways as a business owner — I re-evaluated our audience, our programming and we made some major shifts to ensure that we're serving our audience and making the biggest impact possible. We built out a new website that has a ton of resources specifically for product based businesses — we have three free masterclasses, the blog, podcast episodes, case studies & alumni highlights, plus our favorite tools & vendors that we love. 2019 was a year of reflection and stripping away the things that were no longer working for me, the business and all of you so that we can bring you even more in 2020. Looking ahead — We have some incredible things lined up for all of you in 2020. For the podcast, we'll be back on January 7th with a new episode featuring my friend and Paper Camp alumni, Kristen Ley of Thimblepress. Kristen has made some incredible and intentional shifts in her business Ince the last time she was on the show. She let go of her national sales reps, downsized her product line and reduced her team of employees. She re-evaluated what she wanted in her life & her business, then made changes that have led to beautiful results. I'm excited for you to hear her story. We'll host our Paper Camp conference February 25-26th in Los Angeles to talk about product development, selling wholesale, sales & marketing strategies as well as exhibiting at trade shows. This is more of a workshop vibe than a conference — we cap the program at 30 people so that you can get to know everyone there and we have time dedicated to 1-1 time with our speakers. February will be the only time we offer our Paper Camp program in-person. But, we will have the 4-week online course available twice in 2020 — once in the Spring and once in the Fall. Stay tuned for more detail there. And, we're bringing you something brand new in 2020 that we're still working on and I can't share, yet. But it will involve live trainings with me and guest experts on things like marketing, sales and scaling your business, regular office hours where you can pick my brain and ask me questions and access to a wider community of product developers across multiple industries. I'm not quite ready to spill the beans on this one, but we'll share more details as its ready. And, lastly as we head into the holidays I want to thank all of you for being here and making Proof to Product what it is. I firmly believe that by sharing our stories, our expertise and resources — all of our businesses will thrive. So, thank you for being here, thank you for listening, for sharing the show with your friends. I hope you had a wonderful holiday season surrounded by family and friends. I'll see you in 2020!

When we first start our businesses, more often than not, we don't have the big picture idea of what our brand or business will look like down the road. So many of us embark on this so-called maker's journey, where we truly discover our strengths, opportunities, and long term vision for our business. Lucky for us, one of our talented Paper Camp alumni, Genesis Duncan of Graphic Anthology, is joining us today on Episode 138 of Proof to Product to share her experience and advice for other makers on the path. Based in Portland, Oregon, Genesis started Graphic Anthology in 2010 with just three art prints and an Etsy shop. Almost a decade later, her product line has grown to include a wide range of greeting cards and gift items that focus on joy, simplicity, and strengthening relationships with those you love most. Today's episode is a powerful one and I know it will resonate with many of you. We talk about how Genesis started her business as a creative outlet and hobby, and why she had to shift her mindset and step into her role and title as an entrepreneur and business owner. Genesis also shares how adding a line of Spanish greeting cards was not only beneficial to her business, but also her personal development. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: What products Genesis makes and sells The sales channels she utilizes How she decided to start her own business Life's hurdles and how they led Genesis to where she is today Finding silver linings and following your heart Advice for shifting your mindset from maker to business owner How Genesis manages the tactical aspects of Graphic Anthology The importance of picking deadlines and sticking with them How Paper Camp helped solidify her business mindset What Genesis does to differentiate her products in the market Testing products, taking risks, and discovering new segments Advice for other small business owners and creative CEOs KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "I think in the back of my mind I always wanted to run my own business, but I will say I resisted it a lot in the beginning." - Genesis Duncan "I am a child of entrepreneurs. Both my parents had their own businesses, so from an early age knew what I would want to do." - Genesis Duncan "I became an entrepreneur by accident actually." - Genesis Duncan "Business started to dry up and stuff, and so I kind of really was like, "I need to do something. I need to do something creative, I need to do something for me."- Genesis Duncan "People come to greeting cards because they're trying to say things or they are trying to feel more connected." - Genesis Duncan "I am a firm believer that all of the different things we experience in life are there for a reason." - Katie Hunt "There is this shift, where you go from making something for someone to asking how can I do that efficiently? How can I do that sustainably? Yeah, it was the game changer." - Genesis Duncan "I know a lot of us with small businesses don't really resonate with the title, CEO. It just feels so corporate and so big. But really, but we are. We're the visionaries for these brands, and that sometimes means the creative aspect of our business becomes a smaller piece of what we do on a day to day basis." - Katie Hunt "After doing Paper Camp, it just really gelled a lot of things in my mind. I realized, "All right. We got to get serious here." Like this is happening." - Genesis Duncan "Paper Camp made me realize how hungry I was to grow my business. I met other people who were ahead of me and they weren't in suits and ties. They were very fun people talking about how they were making their business work and they were starting families or whatever." - Genesis Duncan "My favorite thing is that we don't have to follow the same path. We can make this whatever we want. We can make things fit with the life we want to have." - Katie Hunt "There's always going to be more opportunities that are going to come down the pipeline." - Genesis Duncan LINKS Website: http://graphicanthology.com Instagram: http://instagram.com/graphicanthology Facebook: http://facebook.com/graphicanthology SPECIAL OFFER: 3 Free Months of Gusto! Gusto makes payroll, taxes, and HR actually easy for small businesses. Fast, simple payroll processing, benefits, and expert HR support all in one place. Gusto automatically pays and files your federal, state, and local taxes so you don't have to worry about it. Plus they make it easy to add on health benefits and even 401(k)s for your team. Those old-school, clunky payroll providers just weren't built for the way modern small businesses work. But Gusto is. Now is the best time to get set up for the new year. Don't wait. Proof to Product listeners get 3 free months of Gusto when they run their first payroll. Try a demo and see for yourself at http://www.gusto.com/proof SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based b

Hey Friends, in episode 136 I walked you through how I do my annual strategic planning for the business. I got into the weeds sharing what reports I look at, how I analyze that data and then how I schedule things out to ensure that I'm not overloading myself, my team or my family with my grand plans! Ha! Now that we've covered the question about big-picture planning, I want to circle back on the requests I received to share how I manage my day to day flow of family life & business life. For episode 137, I'm sharing what my day to day looks like with four young children (currently ages 3 to 9 years old), a growing business and an active family life. I talk about strategies I use to make my shortened workdays more productive including batching tasks, delegating more and not checking my email a million times a day. And, the biggest tip I can offer is to remain flexible -- because my day to day is constantly changing and I'm guessing yours is too. What works for me now, wouldn't have worked a few years ago and may not work for us one year from now. But, give yourself space and permission to make changes as you go. SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Hey friends, I have been getting a lot of requests from people curious about how I map out my annual plan for the business, and how I work my family schedule into that. I'm going to be honest, balancing a busy family schedule and a very busy business schedule can be hard. There's a number of things that I need to consider and weigh in on when I'm making decisions in my business. And that really ties into how I plan my year because I don't want to overload myself with too many things, only to do all of them less than stellar. I want to do my best at everything. In this episode, I get granular about how I do my big picture, strategic planning each year for my business so that I'm not overloading myself, my team or my family. I talk about what reports I look at, how I analyze what's working and what's not working to decide which programs, products and services we'll offer the following year. Reports I pull: 2019 YTD Profit & Loss statement 2018 Profit & Loss for year over year comparison 2019 Marketing calendar so I can see where income coordinated with program sales Things I look at for each revenue stream (including any sub-categories): Profitability Time spent Excitement / Passion Level Impact Tools I use: Quickbooks online Downloadable Calendar from MaylemMade on Etsy Huge wall post-its Quick links to thinks I talked about: Paper Camp Mastermind Friends of Proof to Product Facebook group Proof to Product on Instagram SPECIAL OFFER: 3 Free Months of Gusto! Gusto makes payroll, taxes, and HR actually easy for small businesses. Fast, simple payroll processing, benefits, and expert HR support all in one place. Gusto automatically pays and files your federal, state, and local taxes so you don't have to worry about it. Plus they make it easy to add on health benefits and even 401(k)s for your team. Those old-school, clunky payroll providers just weren't built for the way modern small businesses work. But Gusto is. Now is the best time to get set up for the new year. Don't wait. Proof to Product listeners get 3 free months of Gusto when they run their first payroll. Try a demo and see for yourself at http://www.gusto.com/proof SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Remember your high-school economics class? Okay good, because today's episode is going to be nothing like that. Today we're making numbers, margins, pricing and market metrics fun with Michelle Loretta, a business consultant, financial strategist and founder of Sage Wedding Pros. Before launching her own business, Michelle worked as an accountant for Deloitte, sales and marketing manager for DDLA and merchandiser for Coach. Since then, she's applied her corporate and entrepreneurial expertise to wedding businesses worldwide and launched herself onto the live-event space as a frequent speaker at professional conferences. Through Sage Wedding Pros, Michelle also produces her own next-level summit known as The Be Sage Conference. I have had the privilege of attending twice, once as a speaker, and it truly is an amazing program. For those of you who don't want to miss it, Michelle's next conference is coming up in Austin in February of 2020. On today's episode, Michelle and I talk about business planning, the economics of selling products and how financial decisions in your business affect your operational plans. We promise, whether you're creative or business minded, this episode will inspire you to start drafting all of your next big business plans. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Michelle's journey and background What inspired her to start her own stationery business How blogging evolved into hosting workshops Benefits of getting your business plan on paper Reframing your financial goals as business milestones The economics of selling products Trading margins for volume Considerations for pricing physical vs digital products Common mistakes made during go-to-market Tips for pricing your products Numbers. Numbers. Numbers. What's up next for Michelle & the Be Sage Conference KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "Everyone has a backstory that we weave into the businesses we're creating and in that way we can help one another." - Katie Hunt "The wonderful thing about the traditional business plan is that it really forces you to look at all aspects of your business, not just the ones that come comfortably." - Michelle Loretta "You can't make a marketing decision without thinking of the financial aspects. Every financial decision links to an operational and marketing decision." - Michelle Loretta "Every decision needs to come back to how does this fit with the overall goals, the overall focus." - Katie Hunt "When you're selling direct to consumer, that's one thing, but moving from 5,000 to 15,000 orders you have to ask, 'do I have an operational structure that can support that?' - Michelle Loretta "If you price it too low, you won't make any money on your products. If you price it too high, you'll price yourself out of the market and nobody's going to buy. So you really need to know your personal numbers." - Katie Hunt "Pricing is actually a marketing decision. It's not a financial decision. It's a marketing decision that you test financially." - Michelle Loretta "Knowing what your numbers are doing is so critical from season to season, month to month, quarter to quarter, year to year." - Michelle Loretta "It's hard to be good at all things. My recommendation is create your first channel, and then only after you're profiting and you're thriving with it, expand into the second channel." - Michelle Loretta "If you're not happy with what you're earning, that's the red flag that you need to be aware of. That's when you need to boost profit margins by 2% to 5% in the next year." - Michelle Loretta "You need to know your margins, you need to create benchmarks. You need to try to best your benchmarks." - Michelle Loretta LINKS Conference: besageconference.com Website: http://www.sageweddingpros.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SageWeddingPros Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sageweddingpros/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/sageweddingpros/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SageWeddingPros SPECIAL OFFER: 3 Free Months of Gusto! Gusto makes payroll, taxes, and HR actually easy for small businesses. Fast, simple payroll processing, benefits, and expert HR support all in one place. Gusto automatically pays and files your federal, state, and local taxes so you don't have to worry about it. Plus they make it easy to add on health benefits and even 401(k)s for your team. Those old-school, clunky payroll providers just weren't built for the way modern small businesses work. But Gusto is. Now is the best time to get set up for the new year. Don't wait. Proof to Product listeners get 3 free months of Gusto when they run their first payroll. Try a demo and see for yourself at http://www.gusto.com/proof SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROO

Happy almost-Thanksgiving Proof to Product Friends! This week we're taking a break to spend time with loved ones and we hope you are all able to do the same. In case you find yourself on a road trip, waiting to catch an airplane or with some much-needed downtime, we're sharing three great episodes from the archives. It's a binge-worthy week starting on- Tuesday you'll hear how Johnny & Joanna at Letterfolk reinvented the Letterboard Wednesday Nicole Walters will remind us why we can't rely on social media for sales And on Thursday, I'll talk with Kelly Parker Smith about prioritizing profitable projects. Happy Thanksgiving to all of our listeners in the United States. I'm grateful for all of you and I hope you have a wonderful week. Thank you for listening and supporting Proof to Product. We'll be back with a new episode on December 3rd!

Happy almost-Thanksgiving Proof to Product Friends! This week we're taking a break to spend time with loved ones and we hope you are all able to do the same. In case you find yourself on a road trip, waiting to catch an airplane or with some much-needed downtime, we're sharing three great episodes from the archives. It's a binge-worthy week starting on- Tuesday you'll hear how Johnny & Joanna at Letterfolk reinvented the Letterboard Wednesday Nicole Walters will remind us why we can't rely on social media for sales And on Thursday, I'll talk with Kelly Parker Smith about prioritizing profitable projects. Happy Thanksgiving to all of our listeners in the United States. I'm grateful for all of you and I hope you have a wonderful week. Thank you for listening and supporting Proof to Product. We'll be back with a new episode on December 3rd!

Happy almost-Thanksgiving Proof to Product Friends! This week we're taking a break to spend time with loved ones and we hope you are all able to do the same. In case you find yourself on a road trip, waiting to catch an airplane or with some much-needed downtime, we're sharing three great episodes from the archives. It's a binge-worthy week starting on- Tuesday you'll hear how Johnny & Joanna at Letterfolk reinvented the Letterboard Wednesday Nicole Walters will remind us why we can't rely on social media for sales And on Thursday, I'll talk with Kelly Parker Smith about prioritizing profitable projects. Happy Thanksgiving to all of our listeners in the United States. I'm grateful for all of you and I hope you have a wonderful week. Thank you for listening and supporting Proof to Product. We'll be back with a new episode on December 3rd!

Okay, so did you catch Episode 133 (Part One) with Caroline Hull and Brittney Lynn on Tuesday? We talked about the dos and don'ts of pitching and podcasting. Caroline and Brittney shared real stories, tips, and advice from their experience in the podcast world. If you missed it, definitely push pause and go back and listen to that episode first, because today we're catching up right where we left off. Today, Brittney, Caroline and I are sitting down to continue our conversation about podcasting. We're talking about how to pitch yourself, how to prepare for a podcast interview, and how you can support the show when your episode airs! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Next steps after you've landed the interview The importance of following technical instructions How to maximize your messaging What to do the day of recording Why you should always share your experience Gratitude that goes a long way Tips so that everything goes smoothly Pep talk & positivity KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "If I send you the technical information, I would like you to follow it. There is a reason why I am asking you to wear headphones with a microphone, in a quiet room, please." - Caroline Hull "The last thing I want to do is say, "We can't use your episode because you weren't prepared." That's really difficult." - Caroline Hull "Bring real-life examples. Storytelling is effective because people like to hear about what other people's experiences are." - Brittney Lynn "Know the takeaway or call to action, that one thing you want to drive the audience to do." - Katie Hunt "Sometimes it takes a long time to see a listener turn into a customer, so know the metrics and know what you're doing." - Katie Hunt "Most podcasters are not making money podcasting, and we are doing this because we love it, because we want to share your story." - Caroline Hull "Even if you just share it in your stories on Instagram, it means the world to us, because again, we put so much time and energy into these podcasts." - Caroline Hull "You never know who is connected to who, so you just want to treat everyone with respect." - Brittney Lynn "Just keep it cool. Build relationships, make connections, do your part to help promote it. Do your part." - Katie Hunt "This media is growing so much, and if you're not involved in podcasting in some way, now is the time to jump in." - Caroline Hull "Podcasts help you connect more intimately with someone that may be new to you, because putting in your headphones and listening to a podcast episode, you feel like you get to know a person even though you've never met them." - Brittney Lynn "We all have our own story and path and experiences. The more that you're willing to share, the higher the probability that you're going to get onto podcasts. You are the only person that has experienced your own experiences. Nobody can take that away from you because you are the only you in the world." - Brittney Lynn LINKS Caroline Website: https://www.wildhomepodcasting.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wildhomepodcasting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildhomepodcasting/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/wildhomepodcasting/ Brittney Website: https://brittneyllynn.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brittneyllynndotcom/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/brittneyllynn/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/brittneyllynn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/brittneyllynn SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

I am really excited about our topic and guests for this week because two of my team members, Caroline Hull and Brittney Lynn, are joining me for two special episodes about how to pitch yourself to podcasts. Caroline and Brittney both have experience working in the podcasting world. Caroline owns her own podcast editing company, Wild Home Podcasting, and Brittney Lynn specializes in PR management. Today's we're covering everything what to do and what not to do, how to prepare for an interview and what you can do to spread the word once the podcast airs. For some background on the amazing ladies who help me run Proof to Product, Caroline Hull has seen all sides of podcasting. As the co-host of the Creative Biz Rebellion podcast, she's been on the receiving side of many podcast pitches. Caroline has also been featured on dozens of podcasts by other people, including Episode 45 of Proof to Product where she talked about the importance of taking a break in business. Brittney Lynn also knows the ins and outs of podcasting. As my PR manager, Brittney sees all the incoming pitches from people who want to be on Proof to Product. She also regularly pitches media opportunities to her clients for Podcasts and traditional media. You can hear more about the type of work Brittney does on Episode 66 of Proof to Product. We hope you enjoy Part 1 today and stay tuned for Part 2 on Thursday! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: The best and worst podcast pitches Advice to make your pitch really stand out Why you should always relate back to the listener How to personalize your pitch How to handle follow-ups Why you should know exactly who you're addressing Tips for avoiding acting like a robot KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "You can't just go in and be like, hey, my product is awesome and like you should have me on your podcast." - Brittney Lynn "When I can tell that they've actually listened to the podcast, that's a really huge thing." - Caroline Hull "Businesses are built on relationships, so take a little bit more time to customize what you're saying to people and refine the ask." - Katie Hunt "Include the topics of what you can talk about on that podcast and how you can bring value because that's really what's going to differentiate you from other pitches." - Brittney Lynn "Keep it short and sweet and get to the point and go from there." - Brittney Lynn "Come at it with the perspective that you're communicating with another human being. How would you want to be communicated with?" - Brittney Lynn "Just because they come on the podcast doesn't mean that everybody's going to go run and buy their product because that's not what the purpose of our podcast is." - Caroline Hull LINKS Caroline Website: https://www.wildhomepodcasting.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wildhomepodcasting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildhomepodcasting/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/wildhomepodcasting/ Brittney Website: https://brittneyllynn.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brittneyllynndotcom/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/brittneyllynn/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/brittneyllynn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/brittneyllynn SPECIAL OFFER: 3 Free Months of Gusto! Gusto makes payroll, taxes, and HR actually easy for small businesses. Fast, simple payroll processing, benefits, and expert HR support all in one place. Gusto automatically pays and files your federal, state, and local taxes so you don't have to worry about it. Plus they make it easy to add on health benefits and even 401(k)s for your team. Those old-school, clunky payroll providers just weren't built for the way modern small businesses work. But Gusto is. Now is the best time to get set up for the new year. Don't wait. Proof to Product listeners get 3 free months of Gusto when they run their first payroll. Try a demo and see for yourself at http://www.gusto.com/proof SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to

Today we're lucky to have Alisha Cohen on Episode 132 of Proof to Product. Alisha is the founder and creative director of LISH Creative, a content agency for vibrant lifestyle and hospitality brands. Alisha took the leap to found her company in 2016 when she realized she had to leave agency life to break out on her own. Since then, Alisha and her team have created content for some of the world's leading brands including Nickelodeon, Nestle, General Mills, Facebook, Dunkin' Donuts, Delta Airlines, and Benefits Cosmetics. On today's episode, Alisha shares her start up story and how she grew her business through determination and grit. She tells us how she taught herself to take professional photos using just her iphone and to create engaging content for social media. Alisha and I also talk about tips for preparing for photo shoots, the importance of having a shot list and helpful photo editing apps. We dive into what's working and not working on social media today, how Alisha has now moved from having an in person team to a virtual team and all of the challenges that go along with that. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: What Alisha does and what a content agency is How she got into the field and what she did before content creation Where Alisha gets her grit and drive How she connects with big brands and what collaboration looks like The importance of putting out good work, consistently to build your brand Alisha's number one tip for other creatives What's working right now in the online space and what's not Advice for taking great photos without all the fancy gear Questions to ask before scheduling a photoshoot Avoiding pitfalls The fine line between inspiration and replication Reality vs perception of running a small business What's next for LISH KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "When you can bring on different team members that specialize in different areas, you are ultimately producing better work for your clients." - Alisha Cohen "When you do good work, it's a lot of word of mouth." - Alisha Cohen "Businesses are built on relationships, and the contacts you make on a project today may lead to additional work down the road." - Katie Hunt "We only put out the kind of work that we want to come in." - Alisha Cohen "I sign contracts that say influencer agreement, so I have to take on that term as much as I don't like it. No one loves the term, but what else do you call it?" - Alisha Cohen "Social media is evolving so quickly and there's different roles that people are playing and different ways that we can get involved." - Katie Hunt "You find what you like and what you don't. Management was definitely something that wasn't my cup of tea. So I kind of just hand it off, and don't really worry about the metrics too much." - Alisha Cohen "It's unbelievable how much trial and error can go into one shot. So don't expect your first try to be awesome." - Alisha Cohen "You want to know what you're going to be using these photos for and what the goal is, and then have a list of everything you want to capture so you don't forget anything. That was my big mistake. I kept forgetting things because I didn't have a list." - Katie Hunt "If you look at our client journey that we have with each person, 80% of the work is the pre-work, is the shot lists and everything. So don't underestimate the time that needs to go into that." - Alisha Cohen "It can be tough to do the virtual thing, especially when you've been in person, and the type of work you is real in-person high touch." - Katie Hunt "It is so important to continually post and to continually interact with your community, whether that's reactively or proactively." - Alisha Cohen "One thing I face on social media quite a bit is I think people think my business is a lot larger than it is. It's myself and a handful of contractors, and I want people to realize we're a small business just like them." - Katie Hunt "It's a lot different than what you see on the internet, that's for sure." - Alisha Cohen LINKS Website: http://lishcreative.com Instagram: http://instagram.com/alishylishy Pinterest: http://pinterest.com/alishyishy SPECIAL OFFER: 3 Free Months of Gusto! Gusto makes payroll, taxes, and HR actually easy for small businesses. Fast, simple payroll processing, benefits, and expert HR support all in one place. Gusto automatically pays and files your federal, state, and local taxes so you don't have to worry about it. Plus they make it easy to add on health benefits and even 401(k)s for your team. Those old-school, clunky payroll providers just weren't built for the way modern small businesses work. But Gusto is. Now is the best time to get set up for the new year. Don't wait. Proof to Product listeners get 3 free months of Gusto when they run their first payroll. Try a demo and see for yourself at http://www.gusto.com/proof SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review o

Hey friends, it's just you and me today on a special mini episode of Proof to Product! This week, I want to talk to you about delegating. There comes a time in most businesses where you are going to want to start hiring a team. For some of us, we hit a wall, we start to realize we're overwhelmed, and we just simply cannot do it all. If you want your business to grow, delegating is a key skill that I want you to have. So I recently did a free master class about delegating where I identified four steps to figuring out what you need to delegate. I realize not everyone is able to watch masterclasses, so I want to run through some of these strategies here. Now, the master class covers these in more depth and I'll show you examples, but for right now, let's run through these key points. Step One: Track your time. Before you can hire someone, you need to know where you currently spend time in your business. Ideally, I'd like you to spend a week tracking everything you do, and that includes how much time you spend on social media, talking to clients, checking email, engaging with your clients or your customers. Whether you're updating your online site or packaging product, track it. You can use time trackers online, like Toggl, or use a spreadsheet to check off what you're doing throughout the day. It's really up to you how detailed you want to get. I don't want you to analyze the time yet, just track it. As you're doing this, you may see some habits that you can adjust to save you some time. For example, maybe you're spending too much time on social media. Any hands raised? Mine is. Step Two: Get Organized So in this step, you'll want to organize your time blocks into what I'm calling buckets. Create some very high-level buckets of where you spend your time. This could be product development, marketing, accounting, administration, or even family, personal things. I usually have a bucket for that, but feel free to make these what you want and what suits your life. Add any others that work for your business, too. Use the information you collected in Step One to help you decide what buckets you need and group similar types of projects together. Within these bigger buckets, I want you to break things down into smaller tasks. In the accounting bucket, for example, you might have bookkeeping and taxes, payroll, invoicing, all of those things, right? In the marketing bucket, you'll probably have writing your product descriptions, writing your social media captions, content scheduling, research, advertising that you're doing. All of that would fall under marketing. Get all of your time tracking information organized. Step Three: Analyze It This is the step where we look at where you're spending your time and how these buckets fit together. Here are some questions I want you to ask. What is taking up the most time in your business? Which tasks do you love to do? Which ones are your favorites? Which tasks feel like they drain you? Which tasks are revenue generating? Which ones are bringing money into the business? Which tasks do you not need to do yourself? There's a lot of things that we do in our business. Most of the time, most of us are working just one person shop and we're handling all the different things, but there's a lot of things that we're doing on a day to day basis that we could be delegating to somebody else. Keep in mind that what works for one company may not work for you. So don't jump on the bandwagon and hire somebody for let's say social media marketing just because some of your friends are. Really focus on what is going to make the biggest impact for your business. Once you've determined where you're spending your time and which tasks you want to take off your plate, it is time to think about bringing people onto your team. Step Four: Hiring It is important to hire people who have specific expertise, especially if it's a project-based thing or they have a very specific role. For example, you would not want to hire a general virtual assistant to take care of your books for you. You would want to hire somebody that has a bookkeeping background, or is an accountant, or has done this for other small businesses. You wouldn't want to hire a social media manager as a full time employee without first trying her out as a contractor. So really focus on hiring the right people in the right roles for your business to make delegating more comfortable for you, and it will make it more successful as you bring on new teams. Delegating can feel scary. It can feel scary relinquishing control, giving other people responsibilities within your business. Start to peel back the layers small. Pick small projects to offload first. As you start to get more comfortable, you'll gain confidence, and then you'll honestly want to outsource everything, including things in your personal life. If you want to learn more, I encourage you to watch my free master class for more information on how to delegate. This is the perfect time of ye

Are you ready for round two? Because we are! This is the second of two special episodes this week, featuring Paper Camp alumni who are taking us behind the scenes of what it's like to run a manufacturing business and brick and mortar retail shop simultaneously. Yesterday, on Episode 129 we heard from the Los-Angeles based, Katie Wilson. Now today, on Episode 130, I'm sitting down with Meg Sutton, the founder of Belle & Union, based in San Antonio Texas. Meg first shared her startup story back on Episode 7. If you're curious about how Meg launched Belle & Union and the motivation behind her products, definitely head back to give that episode a listen. Today we're diving even deeper into Meg's business journey. We're sitting down to talk about how Meg decided to open her brick & mortar shop, how she layered that into her existing business model, and how she keeps perspective through it all. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: - How Meg balances time between wholesale and her shop - The importance of great employees - What Meg does to carve out time for creativity - Some misconceptions about stocking for retail vs wholesale - How Belle & Union has evolved over the years - What Meg wishes she knew before opening her shop - Choosing your location wisely - Advice on how to deal with the unexpected - How diversifying revenue streams has impacted neighborhood visibility - What's up next for Meg and Belle & Union KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "I need to be better about saying, "Okay, Mondays and Wednesdays from 10:00 to 1:00, that's my creative time. But as any creative knows, you can't really force it." – Meg Sutton "I'm not a great people manager. I can be a leader. But when it trickles down, like I kind of need somebody else to handle that." – Meg Sutton "Having a good support system truly helps, especially as you start to scale your business. You can't do it all. You shouldn't be doing it all." – Katie Hunt "I will be the first to admit I have not been the best about figuring out that balance with my time to the point that I know our product line has suffered because of it." – Meg Sutton "There are things we're not good at. There are things that drain us. There's things that just we shouldn't have our hands on, or we don't need to have our hands on." – Katie Hunt "No matter what your business is. Wholesale, retail, pantomiming on the sidewalk, whatever it is, know your numbers." - Meg Sutton "It's totally appropriate to keep something in the retail space, even if you're not selling it in the wholesale space. I think that's another misconception." – Katie Hunt "As hard as this last year has been in retail, I don't regret it. I love having the store." - Meg Sutton "I love the community that we've built, and I want to be able to expand on that even more." – Meg Sutton LINKS KENDRA SCOTT HOW I BUILT THIS WEBSITE: Belle and Union Co. FACEBOOK: @belleandunionco INSTAGRAM: @belleandunionco TWITTER: @belleandunionco SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

This week on Proof to Product we're bringing you not just one, but TWO episodes with two special Paper Camp Alumni who are sharing what it's like to run a manufacturing business and brick and mortar retail shops simultaneously. Today on Episode 129, Katie Wilson, founder of The Good Twin, and owner of two Los Angeles-based retail shops, Crush and Touch, returns to the show to share what it's like to be a buyer, how being a retailer has changed over the years, and how she markets her own wholesale line to other buyers. You might remember Katie from Episode 6 of Proof to Product where she first shared her startup story with us. If you haven't heard that episode yet, it's definitely worth heading back for a listen. Katie's had an amazing business journey, and over the years, she has been a contributor to many tradeshow recap episodes, a frequent speaker at our Paper Camp conference and an incredible mentor to many in our industry. We're thrilled to have Katie back today to share more of her experience and we hope you take away some great nuggets of advice. Coming up tomorrow, Episode 130 with Meg Sutton of Belle & Union. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: - Katie's first shop - What inspired her to expand - The types of products sold at Crush and Touch - How Katie decides what to stock - Dealing with concerns about competition - Forging a unique experience for customer retention - Calculating risk - The importance of knowing what you want & need - Making the most of handiwork & imagination - Startup costs and maximizing labor hours vs dollars - Planning for the best and the worst - The do's and don'ts of pitching and presenting to stores - Reframing failure to make improvements KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "I smash everything in, and I get it all done, and I really love it, but it's amazing how much your hours in a day can expand if you need them to." - Katie Wilson "Sometimes when we want to do something, we kind of undermine ourselves in terms of how much work, how much time, how much energy this really, truly takes." – Katie Hunt "I actually carry nail polish, because I'm a big proponent of nail art is actual art." – Katie Wilson "It's a very fun little baby, but it's a totally different side of my brain that I have to access to run it." ¬- Katie Wilson "I love the things that I make, but I'm really passionate about a lot of the things that my friends make, or other people that I admire make." – Katie Wilson "I'm okay with a healthy amount of financial risk. But in terms of the entrepreneurs that I know, I would say that I tend to go small and steady versus just jumping in with both feet." – Katie Wilson "My mantra is, always play the long game. You want to make sure that you know what's right for you, that you know what you need, and what your expectations are out of your businesses, and what you need to survive, and also what you need to be happy. Because those are two different things." – Katie Wilson "That initial push is a lot of money, and you got to stock that store, and even if you're doing bonkers business, that's a slow game to earn that money back." ¬- Katie Wilson "I always plan for my absolute worst month, and I say like, "Okay, if I can run on this, then I can do anything," – Katie Wilson. "I'm living out here. I'm just trying to do my thing, and not to hurt your feelings, but I have days when I'm back there, I'm not wearing lipstick. Don't call me. I don't want to see you right now. I'm not public ready." – Katie Wilson "If you are going out and leaving samples, or if you're mailing samples to stores, only send two to three at most. Do not send your entire product line, especially if you're selling something other than paper products." – Katie Hunt "Following up is key. And so is taking cues." – Katie Wilson "Just remember that everyone's human, the buyers are human, we're human. Sometimes we need those reminders." – Katie Wilson "That not so good stuff is how we make improvements, and it's how we build stronger business. So they're not failures. It's just another way to expand what we're doing and do it well." - Katie Hunt LINKS Website: http://thegoodtwin.co Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thegoodtwinco/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegoodtwinco/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thegoodtwinco SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product bas

Being a product based business owner takes a lot of creativity on all fronts- in your designs, in operations, your marketing and how your reach people and tell your story. Now there are so many different platforms and technologies it can be hard to know where to start or which platform to choose. On today's Proof to Product episode with Dani Nagel, the founder of Dazey LA, we sit down to talk about the importance of finding platforms that work best for your creativity and that start your kind of conversation. Dani founded Dazey LA as a fashion brand focused on empowering women through conversation and community. She intentionally built a business that supports her personal values. Each design is hand drawn by Dani and then manufactured to order in Los Angeles, California. On today's episode, Dani and I talk about how her corporate and startup experience shaped her business perspective. We discuss sustainability, community building, and how Dani built Dazey LA from the ground up. Dani talks about how transparency and showing behind the scenes processes of her marketing and product development has helped her business. And we dive into Dazey LA's ambassador program, which tools they use, how they structure it, and how it has helped them build the retail side of their business. ON TODAY'S EPISODE: The spirit and inspiration behind Dazey LA How Dani uses her clothing designs to start a conversation Making the switch from corporate life to full-time freelance What Danielle learned working for a start-up company How Dazey grew out of Dani's studio apartment Using Instagram to tell the real Dazey LA story Coping with copy-cats and look-alikes Dazey's daily marketing tactics Why Danielle decided to start an ambassador program How the ambassador program took off The size of the Dazey team today Dazey's make to order model and zero-waste goals Advice for new product designers and what's up next for Dani & Dazey KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "Every step of the way with Dazey, I've just been very intentional about aligning my messaging and my values along with my brand and my aesthetic. And somehow it worked out." - Danielle Nagel "I really try to design things that I want to wear, and I want to promote. I just follow what feels right to me. I try to stay true to myself in everything that I do." - Danielle Nagel "So through Instagram Story I just started to transparently share the highs and lows of running a business, the fun behind the scenes, and all the nitty gritty I remember wishing I could see when I was working for these corporate companies." - Danielle Nagel "When we're just starting out, we want to look bigger than we are because we want to be taken seriously, and we want people to purchase our products. But then it gets to a point to where maybe we want people to know we're small and nimble." - Katie Hunt "At the end of the day, I feel like my art stands on its own, and my messaging and branding is really strong. I know that the sharing transparently has been what has helped my business grow." - Danielle Nagel "At my corporate job I was always trying to push the rules, always getting in trouble. So it's really fun having control of my own brand and be able to say, "Screw it, I'm going to share everything. I'm going to share designs before they're released. I'm going to share how I made them." - Danielle Nagel "When I started Proof to Product, I felt like if we all get together and share what we know all of us will thrive. All of us will grow stronger together. And now, we've got this great amazing community." - Katie Hunt "We use our platform as a space to create conversation, and we really want that to be a back and forth conversation. We design along with our audiences. I ask their opinions." - Danielle Nagel "I'm okay with sacrificing crazy profit margins to be able to have a company that aligns with my values, and create something our community really cares about, that's a great conversation starter." - Danielle Nagel "I'm always chasing what's next and what's new. So whenever I get to refresh the brand it's so exciting for me." - Danielle Nagel LINKS Website: http://www.dazeyla.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dazeyla Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dazey_la/ https://www.refersion.com/ SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based bu

If you were following our rebrand earlier this year, you probably remember that there were two technical pieces that really scared me as we were rolling out the rebrand. The first was switching over our Instagram handles and making sure that we were keeping our larger account as our primary account for Proof to Product going forward. You can hear how I did that here on a past podcast episode. The second thing was switching over our email accounts. And I don't know why this made me so nervous. I think it was because we were on the Google platform and we had so many files in Google Drive -- calendars, files, etc. I felt like it wasn't just switching the emails, it was also making sure all of those files migrated over to wherever we needed it to go. I basically wanted everything packaged all nicely under our new Proof to Product domain. After several months of dragging my feet, I made the switch in two phases.. I did it myself in Google Suites and it took me less than an hour. I was pleasantly surprised with how simple the process was, so I want to share the steps with you here: Adding the new domain to your existing Google Suite Account Sign into your G Suite Account Add your new domain as a secondary domain in your account. You will need to verify that you own the domain and the steps are different depending on who you host with. Once verified, make the new domain your primary account in G Suite. Changing our Team Emails Go into the Users section of G Suite (in your admin panel) Select one user at a time. You'll have to manually do this for each person and repeat the process. Once in their user profile, you'll see their name@ your old domain. Click the drop down menu that shows your old domain and choose the new domain for the email. Click "OK" to save the new email. After you click Ok, it will ask you if you want to add an alias so that any emails that are sent to the old domain (tradeshowcamp.com in our case) will be forwarded to the new domain (prooftoproduct.com in our case). Say Yes. Once you make this switch any emails sent to your old domain or your new domain will still go to that individual. Everyone will also still have access to their old emails, Google drive files, Google calendars and anything else that had access to previously within your Google Suite. Key-take aways: Leverage help. The G Suite Customer Service was incredibly helpful and provided solutions that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. Don't be intimidated by Tech. Block off time to do the hard things that make you nervous. You may be pleasantly surprised by how easy it is

A few weeks ago I posted a poll on Instagram asking how many people out there were also feeling pulled in too many directions. More than 50 responses came in, 100% agreeing they felt overwhelmed and overscheduled. It might be the time of year, it might be the season of business, but I think we can all agree we need to find a way to create some blank space on the calendar. To handle this situation, I asked my friend Kelly Higdon of Calibrate Your Year to join me on Episode 126 of Proof to Product. For some background, Kelly is a former psychotherapist turned business coach who helps entrepreneurs grow their business without the soul suck. She believes that a successful business is one that contributes to a happier life and when she isn't working, she's traveling with her family, dabbling in art and listening to live music. On today's episode, Kelly and I talk about burnout. We talk about knowing you're enough within your business, and Kelly share how she manages to block off over 200 days a year for rest and family time. Yep… you read that right… 200!!! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: Misconceptions people have about building downtime into their life & business The unintended side-effects that can come from hustling too hard Looking back on make it or break it moments Why it's important to always, continuously check-in with yourself Steps you can take to safeguard your wellbeing and balance business How to embrace minimalism Questions to ask yourself in critical moments Tips for prioritizing relationships Why you should schedule life before business What Kelly's working on for 2020 KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "I exhibited at a trade show five days after I miscarried because I felt like I had to be there, which is so ridiculous. In hindsight, I should have taken time for myself to rest and heal and take care of my body and my family." - Katie Hunt "Life presents things. Your health will present things, your relationships will present things. And then you have to decide, based on your values, based on who you are, what needs to shift to sustain a good life." - Kelly Higdon "I was teaching and speaking at conferences all over the place, running through airports with my breast pump. It was insane and I got to the end of the year and realized this is not sustainable. I can't keep doing this." - Katie Hunt "There are lots of different ways to serve, lots of different products to create. So it's really about getting down to the essence of what you want to do and what you want to be known for." - Kelly Higdon "Planning ahead, I know what days I have to fit my business into. From there I can figure out when I'm going to host events, what the launch cycle looks like for that. And it has to fit into those spaces." - Kelly Higdon "I will tell you straight up, I'm a recovering workaholic. It is an addiction. I have to just always be aware of that." - Kelly Higdon "Define whatever it is that you want to have a good life. And deconstruct it to find that number your family needs to live a good life." - Katie Hunt "I'd rather have simple businesses that provide a good living than wreck myself." - Kelly Higdon "People, when they don't address who they are as a person, they'll repeat this in all their relationships, particularly in their business." - Kelly Higdon LINKS Website: http://calibrateyouryear.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KellyHigdonLMFT/ Instagram: http://instagram.com/kellyhigdoncoaching SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

As product-based business owners and entrepreneurs, so many of us are under constant pressure to juggle the design and operations sides of our businesses. It can be hard to focus on both moving product and creating the designs for that product, especially when we're juggling online, wholesale and licensing accounts. Turns out, you don't always have to do it all. Today's Proof to Product guest, Erin McManness, is a Paper Camp alumni who's lived every side of the business and decided to stick to the parts that are most fulfilling for her. I'm excited for you to hear her story. Erin is an illustrator working in Atlanta, Georgia. She's been freelancing full time for five years under her brand Paper Raven Co., which started as a small greeting card line and now includes licensing for an assortment of cards, gifts, fabrics, and home décor. Erin incorporates her values and love for the environment in her work by printing all of her cards on 100% recycled paper in the United States. She also donates $1 from every sale to her reforestation partner, One Tree Planted. Over the course of her career, Erin has collaborated on projects with companies like Macy's, Target, Trader Joe's, Publix, and Aldi. In October, she's releasing her second book, The Art Starts In The Heart: An Inspirational Guide To Making Meaningful Art. On Episode 125, Erin and I sit down to cover all of the above. We talk about how Erin has built the licensing arm of her business, the pros, and cons of flat rate and royalty payments and why she's made the decision to ramp up her licensing arm and slow down on the wholesale side. We also talk about Erin's new book, so enjoy! ON TODAY'S EPISODE: - The inspiration behind Paper Raven Co. - How Erin's evolved from one stationery line, to multiple product categories, licensing and more - What it's like to collaborate and design for big brands - The importance of going out and asking for what you want - The difference of working with both smaller and larger brands - Advice on how to navigate negotiations and creative collaborations - How to trust your gut and choose the right projects - Flat rate fees vs royalties - The 3 questions Erin asks herself before choosing to work with brands - Making room for life beyond work - Why you should double check a company's tracking & metrics before signing a royalty deal - What inspired Erin to make the switch to 100% recycled paper products and partner with One Tree Planted - How to research, evaluate and choose ethical companies to work. with - Tough decisions, book celebrations, and what's next for Erin KEY TAKE-AWAYS: "You need to go for what you want and if you want something, tailor your portfolio and go ask for it." - Erin McManness "At tradeshows, and Instagram, too, you never know who's watching. You never know who's paying attention to you or where the next great opportunity will come from." - Katie Hunt "I love to work with smaller brands because they can be really flexible and they're not this big, huge company. There's a lot of creative freedom and things like that." - Erin McManness "My rule is that if I get excited and I listen to my body, and my body is like, 'Yeah, whoa, let's go. This is so exciting, I'm so inspired by this,' I'm like, "Yeah, let's do it." - Erin McManness "Saying no is difficult for a lot of people, myself included. But when we say yes to everything, we run ourselves ragged and we're not focused on the things that are really the most important." - Katie Hunt "I really try to be intentional about structuring my business with what brings me the most joy, what I absolutely love doing." - Erin McManness "I was ready to move on, but I was so worried about proving that I was a financial success out on my own that I just hustled and hustled and hustled, and I put things off to the side." - Erin McManness "I realized making art is really what I want to do. Making the art is the most important thing to me." - Erin McManness "I just want it to be me, I don't want an empire. I just want to be happy, make art, make things that make other people happy." - Erin McManness "I try to do my research about companies that I work with. Are they ethical? Do they have practices that I can be proud of to be associated with?" - Erin McManness "It's super important that there are shared values between us and those we're partnering with or collaborating with." – Katie Hunt LINKS Website: http://www.ShopPaperRavenCo.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paperraven.co/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paperravenco/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/paperravenco/ https://onetreeplanted.org/ SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Fol

You've likely heard me say this here on the Proof to Product podcast and in our emails, but I'm a firm believer that relationships are they key to running and building a successful business. Everyone from our team, to our customers, to our colleagues, to our vendors plays a significant role in our personal growth as well as the development of our company. Your relationships with wholesale buyers, are no exception. BUT HOW DO YOU FIND THE RIGHT STORES? HOW DO YOU CONNECT ON A PERSONAL LEVEL WITH THE BUYER? HOW DO YOU KNOW IF A STORE IS A GOOD FIT FOR WHAT YOU SELL? These are common questions, so let me share some ideas: FOCUS ON QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. I often hear people say that they want to be in hundreds of stores. But, I'd argue that it is more beneficial (especially in the beginning) to work with a smaller group of stores that order from you regularly. It's much easier to provide great customer service and build meaningful relationships with a smaller pool of customers. And, it gives you time to refine your internal systems and build a strong foundation so that if you do grow your wholesale line to a point when you have hundreds of stockists, you'll be able to keep up. Set realistic goals when you're starting out and remember that fewer customers isn't necessarily a bad thing. GO BEYOND THE WEBSITE. The internet is a fantastic place to research potential wholesale partners, but there is so much more to a business than just their website. How is the store showing up on social media? Who are their customers? What other brands do they buy from or do they engage with on social media? Which shows are they attending and talking about? What types of products do they feature? I'm not advocating stalking, but the more you know about a potential shop the more effective your first point of contact will be. You'll also have a clearer idea if your products would work in that store. START A CONVERSATION. Again, don't stalk. But don't be afraid to engage with people in your industry, particularly shops you admire. Comment on their social media, like their posts, send an email introducing yourself and your line. Or, send a note (on one of your cards!) and let them know you've enjoyed their emails / social media posts / their window display was cool. Relationships take time to build and I know you're busy juggling one thousand other things on a daily basis. But, if stores don't know about you, they aren't going to buy from you. And that brings us back to relationships. These stores are your customers. Focus on customer experience, building real connections and delivering on your promises. Be professional, polite and use every point of contact as an opportunity to strengthen your relationship with your buyers. At Paper Camp we'll dive deeper and explain how to identify the right stores for your products, then we'll provide you with strategies for how to reach them. Our Paper Camp E-Course starts on September 30th and we'd love to have you. Enroll or join the wait list at www.prooftoproduct.com/papercamp. SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

Can we talk about product packaging for a minute? You want your products to look unique and stand out from the crowd, but you don't have to break the bank to do it. There are so many packaging options available, and it's important to know when to follow the crowd and use standard packaging and when to get creative and do your own thing. Ultimately, your product packaging must make it easy for the end customer to understand what your product is and how they can use it. And, from a business standpoint, you want to ensure that your packaging looks great, is scalable and doesn't cut into your profit margins. Here's where to focus. - Keep it Simple - Keep it On-Brand - Keep Costs Down We dive into each of these during today's episode. Also, our Paper Camp E-Course starts on September 30th and we'd love to have you. Enroll or join the waitlist at www.prooftoproduct.com/papercamp. SUBSCRIBE To subscribe on iOS, go to the iTunes page and subscribe to Proof to Product. On Android, you can listen using your favorite podcast app. WRITE A REVIEW Writing a review on iTunes will help other product based business owners find Proof to Product as they are working to up level, scale, and build profitable and sustainable companies. FOLLOW PROOF TO PRODUCT Follow Proof to Product on Instagram for the latest updates. JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST If you'd like to receive more information about our upcoming episodes of Proof to Product including show notes and information about our guests, head over to www.prooftoproduct.com and sign up for our email list. SHARE Be sure to share Proof to Product with all of the product based business owners that you know! ABOUT PROOF TO PRODUCT: Proof to Product is hosted by Katie Hunt. Since 2011, Proof to Product has worked with thousands of product based businesses to help them up level, scale, and build profitable sustainable companies. You can find our show notes and additional resources at ProofToProduct.com. If you like what you heard today, please head over to Apple Podcast to leave a five star review and subscribe. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode!

I'm recording this on a Sunday evening, just two short days after I finished hosting our 16th Paper Camp conference and I'm just now getting a chance to reflect on everything we did at Paper Camp and the amazing feedback we had from our students. In this episode, I want to share some of their key take-aways with you here on this episode. But first I want to preface this conversation by saying we cover a lot of ground at Paper Camp. This is our signature program and we've helped over 1,000 small businesses on how to get their products on the shelves on their favorite retail shops. We talk about product development, sales tools for wholesale, sales strategies - working with reps and tech solutions like Faire, marketing to wholesale buyers and the nuts and bolts of exhibiting at shows. As you can imagine, it is a very rich, full two days. I tell you all of that to let you know that we modify each Paper Camp conference for the cohort that is there. They tell us where they are in their business and what they need help with. So, we tailor each conference and course to the attendees that are in attendance; and that is what is reflected in these student take-aways Now, let's get to the meat of it. Here are the top four take-aways our students left with: Validation. They are on the right track, making smart decisions in their busines and they are not alone. They left feeling validated in the decisions they've made thus far and confident in the steps ahead. Road Map. They have answers and know where they are going next. They were given strategies, tools and next steps for their specific business at Paper Camp and now they just need to do the work. Many of them felt relief knowing they have a road map in place. Community. So often creative entrepreneurs feel like they are working in silos. So, to sit in the same room as people who understand them, are working towards similar goals and building similar businesses is refreshing. Having an safe space to openly share resources and strategies without feeling like you're in direct competition is a special thing. Options. They realized they have a lot of options for how to create their work, diversify their revenue streams and build a sustainable company. There is no one size fits all approach, but now they have information to make the best decisions possible for the business they want to build In addition to the student's takeaways, I also want to share with you our speakers' final parting words of wisdom: Rachael Hetzel from Pistachio Press reminded people that there is no one way to build a business. We all do things differently, and that's what makes our products & business unique. Doing what you love and being confident in your decisions is what will make your business grow stronger. We're in a unique and supportive industry that o Kimberley Yurkiewicz from Crow & Canary reminded people that they are not alone. If they have a question, its likely someone else has that same question. So, reach out to the community, lean on your peers and leverage the Paper Camp community as you continue to grow. Katie Wilson from The Good Twin encouraged our students to embrace incremental growth. She acknowledged that everyone is building their businesses in a unique way and there is no "right way" to launch to wholesale or release new products. She reminded everyone that even though they all have the same tools, advice and strategies from Paper Camp, that their journeys will be unique. Take comfort in your path and be proud of what you're building. Carina Murray from Crow & Canary advised people to push themselves to cultivate a unique point of view with their products. While there is an insecurity around being different, embrace it -- buyers are hungry and want to see innovation. And, I reminded everyone that slow steady growth is how strong businesses are build. Be intentional, strategic and confident once they decided on a path. Trust yourself to make the right decisions These are just some of the things we talked about at Paper Camp. I wanted to take you behind the scenes as to what we do at Paper Camp as well as what our key take-aways were. I hope you find it helpful as you're navigating decisions in your own business. And, I want to remind you that our online program -- the Paper Camp E-Course is open for enrollment and we only have a few seats left. Registration will close this week and we'll start classes on September 30th. Get more information and register at proooftoproduct.com/papercamp. I look forward to working with you!