Proof: A True Crime Podcast

In Episode 10 of PROOF: Murder at the Bike Shop the team finally tracks down Allen Nutter. After multiple trips to Kalamazoo and countless hours of searching, it pays off—he confirms what the PROOF team had suspected all along, and more. On this week’s SIDEBAR, hear more about that interview—and what it was like to finally meet Richard Vendeville, a name that surfaces again and again in the Cold Case files. Visit our website at ⁠proofcrimepod.com⁠. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @⁠[email protected]⁠. Sponsor Deals: Go to ⁠Quince.com/proof⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to ⁠GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza⁠ and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit ⁠Rula.com/PROOFPOD⁠ to get started. Head to ⁠AquaTru.com⁠ now and get 20% off your purifier using promocode PROOF. Treat yourself to the most advanced bras and shapewear on the market. Use our exclusive link to save 20% off Honeylove at ⁠honeylove.com/PROOF⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Silence can make it nearly impossible to prove innocence. For people like Scott Baldwin, it can mean the difference between justice and none at all. The Proof team finally tracks down longtime alternate suspect Allen Nutter—but will he talk? As they wait to see if a Cold Case informant will agree to meet, they also turn to the original investigators in Earl O’Byrne’s murder for answers. Will anyone talk? Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Head to AquaTru.com now and get 20% off your purifier using promocode PROOF. Treat yourself to the most advanced bras and shapewear on the market. Use our exclusive link to save 20% off Honeylove at honeylove.com/PROOF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From what happened to the bike shop after Earl’s murder to the mystery of the money bags and more, Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick answer listener questions from throughout this season of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop on this week’s SIDEBAR. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Head to AquaTru.com now and get 20% off your purifier using promocode PROOF. Treat yourself to the most advanced bras and shapewear on the market. Use our exclusive link to save 20% off Honeylove at honeylove.com/PROOF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode 9 of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop, we explored a critical question: why would someone confess to a crime they didn’t commit? You heard it in the story of the Polderman defendants, where multiple confessions raised serious doubts about what really happened. On this week’s SIDEBAR, we go deeper with Dr. Tina Zottoli—a NYS licensed clinical psychologist and Associate Professor in the Department of Psychology at Montclair State University—who explains the psychology behind false confessions and how they can lead to wrongful convictions. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Head to AquaTru.com now and get 20% off your purifier using promocode PROOF. Treat yourself to the most advanced bras and shapewear on the market. Use our exclusive link to save 20% off Honeylove at honeylove.com/PROOF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott Baldwin told us to keep digging. So we went back to the murders of Marinus and Sary Polderman and their daughter, Anna Lewis, who were brutally killed in their Michigan home in August 2000. The case went cold until eight years later, when five people were convicted. But what if the Kalamazoo Cold Case Team got it wrong? What we uncovered raises serious questions about a web of false confessions. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week’s SIDEBAR, Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick break down Murder at the Bike Shop: Episode 8 — including why they couldn’t let a big snake stop them from collecting a bag of clothes that may contain critical DNA evidence. They talk about what it was like re interviewing Scott Baldwin’s ex-girlfriend, a key witness in his case, and explain how even well-intentioned conversations with witnesses can reshape memories. They also discuss what the death of alternate suspect James Long could mean for the investigation — and what that bag of clothes has to do with it. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With more information in hand, Jacinda and Kevin return to Alabama to re -interview Scott Baldwin’s ex-girlfriend and search for James Long, a former bike shop employee who should have been investigated. Finding out who received Silent Observer reward money—and who saw the bloody stick could bring the team closer to solving the case. And could a garbage bag of clothes hold the answer to who killed Earl O’Byrne? Meanwhile, a startling claim could have broader implications for other cold cases too. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: - Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. - Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. - You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk about their first investigative trip back to Kalamazoo since the Jeff Titus case — what they found, what still doesn’t add up, and how frustrating (and heartbreaking) it can be to dig into wrongful conviction cases where “key” leads may have been left behind. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Over the years, Scott Baldwin’s appeals focused on one alternate suspect. But what if investigators overlooked someone else — a person who, by all accounts, should have been investigated? The PROOF team travels to Kalamazoo to uncover information about a potentially missed suspect in the murder of Earl O’Bryne. While there, they begin looking more closely at the Polderman murders and the five people convicted of the crime. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome at [email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The PROOF team returns for Sidebar to break down Episode 6 of Murder at the Bike Shop — “The Boogeyman.” Suppressed evidence. An alternate suspect. And one person who seems to know too much. Evidence that may have changed Scott Baldwin’s fate. Wrongful conviction investigations are often defined by the leads that were missed — or never shared. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick examine suppressed tips pointing to an alternate suspect and explore how those tips may have shaped the case against Scott Baldwin. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget. Visit Rula.com/PROOFPOD to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For decades, an alternate suspect has been the center of scrutiny in the murder of Earl O’Byrne. The PROOF team uncovers a connection between this suspect and a key piece of evidence that was never fully investigated. Meanwhile, Scott Baldwin is approached by a fellow inmate who begins asking too many questions not only about his case, but other cold cases as well — including one of Kalamazoo’s most horrific crimes: the Polderman murders. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

At trial, the prosecutor claimed Scott Baldwin must be guilty because he “stole” the bank bags — and because he liked the song “Butterfly” by Tapping the Vein. But the bank bags were never stolen, and songwriter Heather Thompson explains the song’s real meaning to Susan. In this week’s SIDEBAR, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin revisit the State’s case against Scott. They also take a closer look at the case against Hyland Sterling — and the questions that remain. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Song lyrics. Alleged confessions. Stolen bank bags and a box of coins. This was the evidence that led a jury to convict Scott Baldwin. But what if one overlooked detail could have unraveled the State’s case? And in 1995, when Hyland Sterling was convicted of killing his best friend and business partner, Rob O'Keefe, were critical details ignored there, too? Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The fourth episode of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop raised more questions about the case against Scott Baldwin — blood or bondo, confession or no confession? In this week’s SIDEBAR, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin dig into what makes sense, what doesn’t, and why the state’s theory doesn’t add up. They also discuss the perplexing case of Roberto D’Avanzo: How was he convicted of hiring someone to kill 21-year-old Patty Lang when the alleged hitman was never identified? Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kalamazoo Cold Case detectives question Scott Baldwin about the night Earl O’Byrne was killed—but they don’t think he’s telling the truth. Scott shares his side of the story with Susan and Jacinda. Plus, the Proof team speaks with a current Kalamazoo Circuit Court judge about another troubling case: his former client, Roberto D’Avanzo, who was convicted 24 years after his girlfriend’s murder—despite an alibi that seems impossible to ignore. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the third episode of PROOF: Murder at the Bike Shop, Jacinda and Kevin sit down with the key witness against Scott Bladwin. In this week’s Sidebar, hear their impressions of that interview. The team also discusses the case against Patrick Mishall, who was convicted of the 1991 murder of 27-year-old Christine Dimmick. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stacey told police that her ex-boyfriend, Scott Baldwin, killed Earl O-Byrne, but they didn’t believe her. So why, 12-years later, did the Kalamazoo Cold Case Team decide she was telling the truth? What will she say 25 years later when the PROOF team talks to her? The team also looks at another Kalamazoo cold case with similarities to Baldwin's: the 1991 murder of 27-year-old Christine Dimmick, and conviction of Patrick Mishall over a decade later. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the first Sidebar episode of their new season of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin come together to discuss episodes one and two offering behind the scenes insights and sharing their thoughts on the case against Scott Baldwin. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To understand how Scott Baldwin was convicted, the Proof team unearths everything they can about 83-year-old Earl O’Byrne and the circumstances of his murder. Visit our website at proofcrimepod.com. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The brutal 1988 murder of 83-year-old Kalamazoo bike shop owner Earl O’Byrne is shocking. Earl is a fixture in the community who has sold just about every kid in town their first bicycle. Despite numerous tips, the case goes cold. But over a decade later Scott Baldwin is arrested by the newly formed Cold Case Team and is convicted of killing Earl. Scott is adamant he didn’t do it and now, 25 years later, he’s afraid he will die from the cancer spreading through his body before the truth is uncovered. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick race against the clock to find out what really happened before it’s too late for Scott – what they didn't expect to uncover is a web of troubling convictions that expands far beyond the case of this one defendant. Visit our website at ⁠proofcrimepod.com⁠. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @⁠[email protected]⁠. Sponsor Deals: Go to ⁠Quince.com/proof⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Go to ⁠GREENCHEF.com/proofgraza⁠ and use code proofgraza to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's been over a year since evidence in Renee Ramos' murder case was sent to a lab for DNA testing. The Proof team checks in with Jake Silva to see how he is holding up while he waits for the results. An all news season of PROOF starts on January 20, 2026 with a case from Kalamazoo, Michigan. SHOW NOTES: ⁠Visit our website⁠ for episode behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @⁠[email protected]⁠. If you have information about Renee Ramos' murder please contact us at ⁠[email protected]⁠ or at ⁠(347) 985-0794⁠, or you can reach out to Jake's attorneys: Audrey McGinn / The Innocence Center /⁠[email protected]⁠ or Lauryn Barbosa Findley / The Northern California Innocence Project / ⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Proof returns on January 20th, 2026 with an all new case and this time the stakes are higher than ever. A dying man sits in prison for a murder he says he didn't commit. Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin race against the clock to find out what really happened. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

PROOF returns on January 20th, 2026 with Season 3, and this time the stakes are higher than ever. In this new season, Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast along with Jacinda Davis and Kevin Fitzpatrick of TV’s Evil Lives Here, dive into a murder mystery that has left a terminally ill man - who still proclaims his innocence - behind bars for 25 years. The PROOF team is racing against the clock to find out what really happened before it's too late. But what they didn't expect to uncover is a web of troubling convictions that expands far beyond the case of one defendant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Although they talk to him often, Jacinda Davis and Kevin Fitzpatrick have never actually met Jake Silva face to face. While they're in California they take the opportunity to meet with one of Jake's attorneys, Audrey McGinn, who explains what's happening with the DNA testing. The Proof team also hears from Renee's mom, Donna Ramos, who has some unexpected news. SHOW NOTES Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. If you have information about Renee Ramos' murder please contact us at [email protected] or at (929) 267-3172, or you can reach out to Jake's attorneys: Audrey McGinn / The Innocence Center /[email protected] or Lauryn Barbosa Findley / The Northern California Innocence Project / [email protected] SPONSOR DEALS Give your summer closet an upgrade—with Quince. Go to Quince dot com slash proof for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. That’s Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash proof to get free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince dot com slash proof. Get started at factormeals DOT com slash proof50off and use code proof50off to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box. That’s code proof50off at factormeals DOT com slash proof50off for 50 percent off PLUS free shipping. Factormeals DOT com slash proof50off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On December 8, 2022, Lee Clark and Cain Joshua Storey were exonerated after serving 25 years in prison for a crime they did not commit. Taped during a session at the Rome International Film Festival in November 2024, Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick sit down with Lee and Josh to talk about life two years post exoneration. With special guests Joey Watkins, Mitchum Reeves, and Representative Katie Dempsey. Visit our website for behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONORS: To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof. Sign up at https://www.butcherbox.com/proof and get our special deal! New users that sign up for ButcherBox will receive 2lbs of grass fed ground beef in every box for the lifetime of their subscription + $20 off your first box when you use code proof at checkout! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

During the course of their investigation, Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis uncovered pieces of evidence that had been considered lost– like Renee’s necklaces and clothes. It’s very likely that these items retained the killer’s DNA. Now that they’ve been found, will the court object to testing? Susan hears from Jake’s attorneys and then catches up with Jacinda and Kevin. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, X and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof. That’s UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof, for 15% off! Don’t miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We’re all out of the ordinary. New ButcherBox members that sign up using our link will receive their choice between a whole turkey, turkey breast, or a spiral ham + $20 off when they visit butcherbox.com/proof and enter code proof at checkout. Head to factormeals.com/proof50 and use code proof50 to get 50% off your first box plus 20% off your next month! Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick share updates on the status of Jake Silva's case. SHOW NOTES: Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. If you have information about Renee Ramos' murder please contact us at [email protected] or at (929) 267-3172, or you can reach out to Jake's attorneys: Audrey McGinn / The Innocence Center /[email protected] or Lauryn Barbosa Findley / The Northern California Innocence Project / [email protected] SPONSOR DEALS: Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A witness comes forward with new information about Renee’s last days. And an unexpected discovery could be the break that brings Jake Silva one step closer to freedom. The murders of LaToya Lusk and Karen “Mary” Nelson remain unsolved, but the Proof team takes new evidence to Memphis detectives. This is the last scheduled episode of Murder at the Warehouse, but Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick will continue to investigate and post updates along the way. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, X and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof. That’s UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof, for 15% off! Don’t miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We’re all out of the ordinary. New ButcherBox members that sign up using our link will receive their choice between a whole turkey, turkey breast, or a spiral ham + $20 off when they visit butcherbox.com/proof and enter code proof at checkout. Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 16 of Proof: Murder at the Warehouse, Susan and Jacinda interviewed two witnesses who came forward with new information about the murder of Renee Ramos. The team discusses those interviews and Susan points out possible Brady violations uncovered during the course of our investigation. It's the final SIDEBAR of the season, but that doesn't mean Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin will stop working on the case... expect special SIDEBAR episodes in the coming months. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Coming forward with information about a murder can be scary, and for some people it comes with consequences. But with every person who does come forward, we get a little bit closer to finding the truth. In this episode of Proof: Murder at the Warehouse, Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis talk to witnesses who chose to come forward in spite of the impact it could have on their lives. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, X and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With season two winding down, vital information continues to come in. Faced with a tidal wave of innuendo and rumors, Susan and Jacinda fight the temptation to jump to conclusions. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Their first interview with Tim Fisher left Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin with more questions than answers. Now, better prepared, they are ready to meet with him again and share what they have learned about the case. And the team takes a distressing drive to look for someone who could hold answers to solving the case. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, X, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 14 of Proof: Did You Find the Real Killer, Eric Greer’s mother shared startling information about her son and why he felt compelled to record a video statement about Renee Ramos’ murder. But other witnesses did not want to get involved – not back then and not now either. Meanwhile, Jared Conway sent a letter that ties him to an unsolved murder in Tennessee. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick share their thoughts on the episode and answer listener questions. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Go to butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof to get free ground beef for life plus $20 off your first box. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eric Greer was hit by a car and killed months after recording a video statement about Renee Ramos’ murder. Will finding out more about Eric shed light on what really happened to Renee? And a new letter from Jared Conway could help solve a murder case but still leaves any possible connection to Renee up in the air. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In addition to answering listener questions, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk about what it was like interviewing Tim Fisher, a witness they hadn’t planned on meeting so soon. And how they quickly realized they needed more information before meeting with him again. The Proof team also shares their frustrations chasing down Jared Conway leads and why they think pursuing that angle is important. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis plunge deeper into the investigation of 18-year-old Renee Ramos’ murder. As they relentlessly pursue leads, a chance phone call during an interview puts them face to face with a potentially important witness they hadn’t anticipated meeting so soon. The Proof Team continues to unravel “alternate” theories that appear farfetched but can’t be ruled out. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Go to butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof to get free ground beef for life plus $20 off your first box. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week’s Sidebar Susan, Jacinda and Kevin share a disheartening update on where things stand on Lee Clark’s and Joey Watkins’ compensation bills. And they discuss what it was like to interview Josh Burroughs and what it means (or doesn't mean) for Jake’s case. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Josh Burroughs told detectives a multitude of different stories about what happened the night 18-year-old Renee Ramos was murdered. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis interview Josh Burroughs to see what he remembers now. And the Proof team tries to make sense of how and why Josh Burroughs became the State’s star witness. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Not all witnesses want to talk, that’s expected. In this week’s Sidebar the hosts discuss the possible reasons why key witnesses decline interviews. But how, sometimes, one throwaway line in the case file can lead you to a witness who has information that could alter the entire course of investigation. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box! Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Proof Team continues to investigate the murder of Renee Ramos and heads to the Midwest to talk to the third co-defendant in the case. They also hear from key witnesses who were overlooked during the initial investigation. And a chance encounter leads to a new line of investigation. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Will the real Rapper’s Delight please stand up? Susan's endless hunt for the real Rapper’s Delight continues. Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk more about their interview with Victoria and the reasons she thinks Jake and Ty are innocent. And they also discuss their impressions of the jailhouse informant and the consequences of his testimony. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk to Louis’ mom and find out why she thinks Jake Silva is innocent. And a jailhouse informant tells them more about the confession that led to Ty Lopes’ conviction. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The team continues their investigation into Renee Ramos' murder on the next episode of Proof. In the meantime, they've put together a short video of their interview with Fuji. You can watch that video on Proof's youtube channel, https://www.youtube.com/@proofcrimepod/videos. Fuji was the 17-year-old with a room behind his parents' house. Jake and Renee would often crash there. Hear how the investigation into Fuji continues to impact his life. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On December 8, 2022, after serving 25 years in prison for a crime they did not commit, Lee Clark and Cain Joshua Storey were exonerated. Newly discovered evidence found during season one of Proof called the State’s case into question, and a Floyd County Prosecutor and Judge agreed their convictions should be overturned. Life on the outside hasn’t been easy for Lee and Josh but every day they are thankful for their freedom. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick catch-up with Lee and Josh to hear how they’re doing now – 15 months after regaining their freedom. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. SPONSOR DEALS: Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices