
Presidio Bitcoin Jam
With David King, Max Webster, and Steve Lee
Show overview
Presidio Bitcoin Jam launched in 2025 and has put out 79 episodes in the time since. That works out to roughly 120 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a weekly cadence.
Episodes typically run over ninety minutes — most land between 1h 28m and 1h 38m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Technology show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 days ago, with 27 episodes already out so far this year. Published by With David King, Max Webster, and Steve Lee.
From the publisher
<p>PBJ is a weekly live show recorded at Presidio Bitcoin where 3 friends gather to make sense of bitcoin’s latest topics, from distilling technical concepts to discussing new ways to use bitcoin to determining its impact on the financial system. Join David King, Steve Lee, and Max Webster, longtime bitcoiners with deep roots in Silicon Valley, as they swap knowledge, challenge assumptions, and joust about the big questions of the day, bridging the gap between big tech and bitcoin. <a href="http://presidiobitcoin.substack.com">presidiobitcoin.substack.com</a></p>
Latest Episodes
View all 79 episodesBlackRock's New Case for Bitcoin, Stripe Buys OpenRouter, Open Source AI Summit
Bitcoin Security after COLDCARD, PB Media Archive Launch, Announcing the Type II Summit
The COLDCARD Hack and Future of Self-Custody
Bitcoin Security Consortium, Buzz Launches, Wavelength Brings Bitcoin to Any App
Kimi K3 and the Open-Weight Race, AI Treasure Hunting, Bitcoin Falls Further Behind Gold
Goose Development Kit, Spiral Expands Into AI, Can Bitcoin Names Scale?
Open Source AI with Goose & Buzz, New OUSD Stablecoin, Fable 5 is Back
Announcing PB's Open Source AI Summit, Bitcoin Forks, Running Local AI Recap
Anthropic's Fable Drama, Personhood for AI, Bark Launches on Mainnet
USDC on Cash App, Wand Launch, Surge, and the Zcash Crash
MSTR/STRC Outlook, Bitcoin's Security Budget & AI, Evaluating the Nation-State Threat
Bitcoin Core v31 Release, Project Loupe Launches, Lightning Network's Future
Saylor to sell bitcoin, Block earnings beat, Anthropic partners with xAI
Frontier Models Eating All, SF's AI Dominance, Bitcoin Vegas Announcements
Presidio Bitcoin's Quantum Readiness Report, Iran Wants Bitcoin, Can Mythos Break Bitcoin?
Google's Quantum Warning Overblown?, OpenAI Acquires TBPN, Jack Dorsey Makes Block Mini-AGI
<p>Timestamps: </p> <p>0:00 Opening banter and agenda setting </p> <p>2:00 Google and Oratomic quantum papers & the “n minus one” framing </p> <p>6:44 Quantum uncertainty: AI acceleration & s-curves </p> <p>10:06 Preparedness planning and scenario-based bitcoin responses </p> <p>11:52 Why government and corporate quantum timelines are misleading </p> <p>15:12 Post-quantum signature tradeoffs: SHRINCS, SHRIMPS, and state </p> <p>23:35 Why quantum is a harder problem for bitcoin than other technologies and orgs </p> <p>30:57 Competing quantum narratives, incentives, and media hype </p> <p>34:24 The new bitcoin faucet & Block’s teaser campaign </p> <p>36:30 Square’s default bitcoin payments rollout and adoption friction </p> <p>43:00 Tipping, UX constraints, and Lightning’s retail payment challenge </p> <p>52:31 OpenAI’s TBPN acquisition and the strategic value of media distribution </p> <p>59:50 Open-source AI & Google's Gemma 4 release </p> <p>1:03:14 Block’s new mesh-llm and peer-to-peer compute </p> <p>1:07:21 Open agent marketplaces, business models, and demand formation </p> <p>1:22:40 Block’s corporate structure shift from "hierarchy to intelligence" and the “mini-agi” vision </p> <p>1:32:55 Scheduling notes - no pod next Friday! Next pod Tuesday, April 14</p> <p>-</p> <p>SHOW NOTES:</p> <p>Block's bitcoin faucet: <a href="https://btc.day/">https://btc.day/</a></p> <p>Google's quantum paper: <a href="https://research.google/blog/safeguarding-cryptocurrency-by-disclosing-quantum-vulnerabilities-responsibly/">https://research.google/blog/safeguarding-cryptocurrency-by-disclosing-quantum-vulnerabilities-responsibly/</a></p> <p>Oratomic quantum paper: <a href="https://arxiv.org/html/2603.28627v1">https://arxiv.org/html/2603.28627v1</a></p> <p>SHRIMPS: <a href="https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/shrimps-2-5-kb-post-quantum-signatures-across-multiple-stateful-devices/2355">https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/shrimps-2-5-kb-post-quantum-signatures-across-multiple-stateful-devices/2355</a></p> <p>Mesh-llm: <a href="https://www.anarchai.org/">https://www.anarchai.org/</a></p> <p>Block's corporate structure shift: <a href="https://block.xyz/inside/from-hierarchy-to-intelligence">https://block.xyz/inside/from-hierarchy-to-intelligence</a></p> <p>-</p> <p>SUBSCRIBE:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin">https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin</a></p>
Coinbase Mortgages, Privacy for AI and Payments, Lexe Launches
<p>0:00 Opening banter, Iowa State, and March Madness stakes </p> <p>07:10 Coinbase’s Bitcoin-backed mortgage model </p> <p>11:12 Who the Coinbase mortgage product is really for </p> <p>20:58 Competitive implications for Bitcoin lending and housing finance </p> <p>27:40 De minimis tax policy and the case for Bitcoin payments </p> <p>31:27 STRC-backed stablecoins as regional savings products </p> <p>37:10 Lexe’s launch and trusted-execution Lightning wallets </p> <p>45:10 SDK design, experimentation, and the search for breakout use cases </p> <p>52:46 Privacy limits in Base, Spark and stablecoin payments </p> <p>01:02:20 Hong Kong’s decryption powers and the erosion of financial privacy </p> <p>01:04:50 Stripe, open-source AI, and shifting infrastructure questions </p> <p>01:12:52 Spiral’s AI criteria (low-level tools, protocols, and defensibility) </p> <p>01:16:08 Peer-to-peer training networks and verifiable model provenance </p> <p>01:20:13 Naming systems for agents and online resources</p> <p>-</p> <p>SHOW NOTES:</p> <p>Coinbase Mortgages: <a href="https://www.coinbase.com/blog/coinbase-powers-the-first-crypto-backed-conforming-mortgages-by-better">https://www.coinbase.com/blog/coinbase-powers-the-first-crypto-backed-conforming-mortgages-by-better</a></p> <p>Lexe Launch: <a href="https://blog.lexe.app/public-launch/">https://blog.lexe.app/public-launch/</a></p> <p>-</p> <p>SUBSCRIBE:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin">https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin</a></p>
Bitcoin's Branding Problem, AI's Impact on Open Source, Can Spiral's Playbook Work for AI?
<p>0:00 - March Madness and opening banter </p> <p>06:30 - Square’s latest Bitcoin payments rollout and the remaining merchant adoption hurdles </p> <p>16:13 - Bitcoin branding problems and the challenge of negative first impressions </p> <p>21:30 - Reframing the Bitcoin merchant pitch around Lightning, fee savings, and cleaner UX </p> <p>26:00 - Branding for Presidio Bitcoin, PBJ, and the tension between mission clarity and broader appeal </p> <p>28:50 - "Crypto" stigma in tech circles and potential counter-narratives for Bitcoin </p> <p>36:31 - Privacy coins, stablecoins, and open-source framing as rival narratives </p> <p>43:10 - Student visits, "yuppie-elite" skepticism, and the university awareness gap </p> <p>49:03 - What would make institutions and students pay more attention to Bitcoin? </p> <p>56:51 - Education, entrepreneurship, and AI-native alternatives to traditional schooling </p> <p>01:03:40 - Spending Bitcoin, monetary transition, and the long-run logic of better money </p> <p>01:08:20 - Tempo's Machine Payments Protocol (MPP) announcement, Lightning interoperability (via Lightspark), and cautious optimism around AI payments </p> <p>01:12:30 - Builder branding, Flint, and whether Bitcoin should lead or recede in the pitch </p> <p>01:15:26 - AI’s impact on FOSS, licensing, transparency, and software value </p> <p>01:26:58 - Spiral’s AI playbook, auditability, and the shift from FOSS to sovereignty</p> <p>- </p> <p>SHOW NOTES: </p> <p>Why The Yuppie Elite Dismiss Bitcoin: <a href="https://www.citadel21.com/why-the-yuppie-elite-dismiss-bitcoin">https://www.citadel21.com/why-the-yuppie-elite-dismiss-bitcoin</a> </p> <p>Tempo's Machine Payments Protocol: <a href="https://stripe.com/blog/machine-payments-protocol">https://stripe.com/blog/machine-payments-protocol</a></p> <p>- </p> <p>SUBSCRIBE: </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin">https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin</a></p>
Strategy's STRC Buying Spree, Open-Source AI Blind Spots, Bitcoin Stablecoins from Utexo & Ark
<p>0:00 Opening banter: Elon chocolate, Dipsea registration, and college basketball </p> <p>9:55 New York PubKey ₿uilder event and Spiral retreat recap </p> <p>12:35 Presenting agentic commerce and the case for Bitcoin payments </p> <p>15:50 Agentic payments: open questions, hype vs reality </p> <p>18:35 Hype vs reality in current agentic payment adoption </p> <p>21:38 Consumer commerce as the clearest early use case </p> <p>23:38 Ads, trust, and why LLM commerce may break the Google model </p> <p>28:45 Yahoo, Google, and the economics of search monetization </p> <p>34:56 Subscriptions, open models, and the future AI business model mix </p> <p>45:00 Open-source AI: where the biggest gaps and opportunities may be </p> <p>47:35 Linux, cloud infrastructure, and lessons for AI’s open stack </p> <p>56:40 The open standard: open models, open hardware, and verifiable compute </p> <p>1:02:32 Bitcoin-native rails for agent coordination, collateral, and payments </p> <p>1:17:48 Meta, “performance art” agents, and the limits of current social AI </p> <p>1:20:28 Voice interfaces, agent orchestration, and the future of work </p> <p>1:35:02 Strategy’s STRC buying spree and Bitcoin-based yield demand </p> <p>1:40:07 Bitcoin-based stablecoins from Utexo, Ark Labs, and Tether</p> <p>- </p> <p>SHOW NOTES: </p> <p>PubKey Podcast with Steve, Haley and Mat: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NLHgBO-dM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NLHgBO-dM</a> </p> <p>STRC Tracker: <a href="http://strc.live">strc.live</a></p> <p>- </p> <p>SUBSCRIBE: </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin">https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin</a></p>
Codex vs Claude Vibe Coding, Study Shows AI Agents Prefer Bitcoin, Kazakhstan to Add BTC?
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0">0:00</a> Presidio power outage almost cancels show & FSD catch-up </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=345s">05:45</a> State of AI coding tools: Claude, Codex, Gemini, and workflow shifts </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=890s">14:50</a> Writing, AI-dependence, and finding the right human-AI creative process </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=1045s">17:25</a> Career advice for students and why AI fluency is now paramount </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=1314s">21:54</a> PB as a hub for AI hackathon and bridging Bitcoin into broader builder culture </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=1728s">28:48</a> "Internet of earners" & Bitcoin-native microtask markets </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=1997s">33:17</a> Bootstrapping agent economies, hackathon design, and Bitcoin onboarding </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=2265s">37:45</a> Lightning infrastructure, open standards, and the case for broader access </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=2467s">41:07</a> Autonomous Lightning nodes and permissionless Bitcoin yield infrastructure </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=3560s">59:20</a> Comparing Claude, Gemini, Codex, and building multi-agent workflows </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=4627s">1:17:07</a> BPI’s AI monetary preferences study: Bitcoin vs. stablecoins </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=5585s">1:33:05</a> L402 directories and discovering agent-payable services </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xID5cFaXAu0?t=5681s">1:34:41</a> Kazakhstan, sovereign Bitcoin custody, and open questions for nation-state adoption </p> <ul> <li>SHOW NOTES:</li> </ul> <p>AI Hackathon: <a href="https://hack-nation.ai/">https://hack-nation.ai/</a> </p> <p>BPI Study - Which Money do AI Agents Prefer?: <a href="https://www.moneyforai.org/">https://www.moneyforai.org/</a></p> <p>-</p> <p>SUBSCRIBE:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin">https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin</a></p>