The Great Integration
Andrew Vosko, director of the Transdisciplinary Studies program, talks with Javier Rodríguez, the co-director of the Inequality and Policy Research Center at Claremont Graduate University. He and Andrew discuss Javier's journey from studying engineering in Colombia to studying across disciplines in the United States, how to think about identity, ways to navigate multiple perspectives as a transdisciplinarian, and reconciling with the concept of inequality with that of equity.
PostNormal Times · Javier Rodriguez, Andrew Vosko
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Show Notes
0:04: Host Andrew Vosko welcomes his guest, Javier Rodríguez from Claremont Graduate University, who's an associate professor in the Department of Public Policy.
1:00: Javier discusses his academic journey, beginning in Colombia with the study of engineering and bringing him to the study of public policy—with novel and poetry writing on the side.
4:50: Javier talks about coming to UCLA and working across various disciplines, including psychology, computer science, mathematics, and philosophy.
13:00: Javier talks about being driven by an artistic sense of curiosity and even obsession.
18:48: Andrew and Javier discuss the nature of identity in an existential and cognitive sense.
22:42: Andrew and Javier talk about how we simultaneously navigate multiple and often conflicting realities.
27:55: Javier responds to the question of how he developed the mindset and skills for negotiating multiple perspectives or realities.
37:18: Andrew talks about political and practical challenges and the role of transdisciplinary thought in integrating multiple perspectives.
41:00: Andrew and Javier discuss the notion of scientists as politicians.
44:53: Using Javier’s career as an example, Andrew asks how we may foster more boundary-crossing.
51:59: Andrew and Javier attempt to define inequality versus equity.