Politics Unpacked

Philip Webster was political editor at the Times for 18 years, a colossus of the Blair and Brown eras who survived nine editors at the paper. He tells Matt about writing the story that killed Tony Blair's dreams of joining the Euro, getting stuck on Margaret Thatcher's battle bus, and what happened when he was locked up in Africa with Neil Kinnock.The Political Editors is half a century of politics told by the people who wrote the first draft of history for the Times.Plus: Manveen Rana and Matthew Holehouse discuss what the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin means for Russia, the Conservative MPs rounding on the immovable Nadine Dorries, and which portraits ministers are hanging on their office walls. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Westminster veteran Sir Peter Riddell tells Matt about his time charting the dramatic end to the Thatcher era, underestimating John Major, Labour coming back from the wilderness, and how the job of covering politics has changed over the years.The Political Editors is half a century of politics told by the people who wrote the first draft of history for the Times. Plus: Columnists Robert Crampton and Hadley Freeman discuss Andy Burnham giving an honest answer about wanting to be Labour leader, turning potholes into a golf course, and why some meal deals should be eaten in the bathroom. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Julian Haviland became political editor of the Times in 1981, but his career in journalism began in the 1950s and covered every prime minister from Alec Douglas-Home to Margaret Thatcher. He tells Matt about his recollections of a smug Jim Callaghan, the decent but flawed Harold Wilson, and Thatcher having a stiff drink before her weekly audience with Queen Elizabeth.He also reveals that the Queen was horrified by police conduct at the Battle of Orgreave during the miners' strike, a story he confirmed but was unable to run at the time.The Political Editors is half a century of politics told by the people who wrote the first draft of history for the Times.Plus: Columnists Daniel Finkelstein and Jenni Russell discuss whether shoplifting has effectively been decriminalised, whether the Conservative party is choosing the right people to fight the next election, and whether Rishi Sunak has a future as an artist. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Political Editors is half a century of politics told by the people who wrote the first draft of history for the Times.First up is Fred Emery, who became political editor in 1977 after a series of foreign postings including covering the Vietnam War and Watergate. He tells Matt about getting the scoop that President Nixon was about to resign, the fall of the Callaghan government and what it was like to interview Margaret Thatcher.Plus: Columnists Robert Colvile and Libby Purves discuss what the Lucy Letby case says about large institutions, whether older people really have it too good, and which European country has the best Parliament building?. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Has political correctness come to bury comedy, or to save it? Patrick Maguire speaks to David Stubbs, who believes 'wokeness' has been good rather than bad, and takes a tour through the changing face of British comedy.Plus: Columnists Laura Freeman and Ailbhe Rea discuss why Labour is spending so much time talking about class, the decline of the chat show, and how to stage a heist. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Military coups are "back" according to the UN, with Niger the latest African nation to have its government overthrown. Patrick asks why they're on the rise, and discusses the most consequential and surprising coups to have ever happened. The Times' Catherine Philp recounts what it was like to report on the 1997 coup in Cambodia with bullets flying overhead. Plus: Manveen Rana and Matthew Bell look ahead to Rishi Sunak's September reset, whether the UK's economic success can be measured by the number of its millionaires, and why politicians are incapable of looking normal while watching football. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's Wednesday, but with the House of Commons in recess we bring you the other PMQs - Patrick Maguire Questions. Patrick is joined by Red Box Editor Lara Spirit and political commentator Isabel Hardman to answer listeners' questions, including what happens if Labour doesn't win the next election, can Nadine Dorries be forced to stand down as an MP, and where did all the Corbynites go?Plus: Columnists Robert Crampton and Phil Tinline discuss whether there are political rewards for falling inflation, the origins of US deep state conspiracy theories, and whether some people still sneer at women's football. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's 16 years since Tony Blair walked away from frontline politics, forced to step down by a party that had fallen out of love with him. But with Keir Starmer keen to hug the three-time election winner close, could he and his Institute for Global Change have a big influence over British politics in the future?Plus: Columnists Robert Colvile and Helen Lewis discuss the implications of Donald Trump's indictment in Georgia, Labour's contortions over congestion charging, and why Parliament is still crumbling. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Twenty five years after Bill Clinton infamously denied having an affair with Monica Lewinsky, Patrick speaks to Damian Whitworth, who remembers the chaos that gripped US politics while he was covering the story of The Times. Boris Johnson's former Director of Communications Guto Harri, Andrew Gimson and Isabel Hardman analyse the best and worst denials made by UK politicians.Plus: Anoosh Chakelian from the New Statesman and former Number 10 advisor Jimmy Mcloughlin discuss the government's latest policy week, whether schools should teach more sociology or more languages, and whether the government should appoint a toilet czar - or even a 'Lenin of the loos'.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Saturday we're bringing you an extra episode from another Times podcast - Stories of Our Times - one remarkable story, told in depth, each day.With an election just around the corner, politicians are quitting Westminster in their droves, many of them under 40. Is the job broken – or are they just jumping before they're pushed? We meet the leavers and reluctant remainers.Luke Jones speaks to The Sunday Times columnist Charlotte Ivers.Clips: Times Radio, ITV News, Global. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How do politicians keep fit? Rishi Sunak spends his holidays going to Taylor Swift-themed spin classes; Keir Starmer prefers to kick around a football. Former health minister Lord Bethell and Tanni Grey-Thompson, Paralympian and crossbench peer, tell Patrick Maguire how to stay healthy in Westminster.Plus: Columnists India Knight and James Marriott discuss Labour's cautious approach to Lee Anderson, youthful cynicism and whether impressions are a dying art form. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Is Parliament broken, and how can we fix it? Chair of the Committees on Standards and Privileges Chris Bryant joins Patrick Maguire to discuss his experience of abuse in the Commons, whether MP's behaviour is now worse than it's ever been and why MPs should be allowed to call their colleagues 'liars'.Plus: Columnists Patrick Kidd and Dorothy Byrne discuss travelling for an operation, Nicola Sturgeon's ‘personal and revealing’ memoir and whether your employer should pay for your lunch? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's a journalistic cliché that very little happens in politics while MPs are on holiday during the Parliamentary recess. But is it fair to describe August as 'silly season'? Historian Phil Tinline joins Patrick Maguire to debunk this myth and look at the biggest political moments of summers gone by.Plus: columnists Alice Thomson and Carol Midgely discuss toxic masculinity, Matt Hancock's TikToks, and whether Beyond Meat is past its best. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A decade of low economic growth has seen Britain fall behind it's wealthy counterparts, and nations like Poland and South Korea are set to become richer than the UK within the decade. How has Britain become so poor, and what can be done about it? Patrick asks the experts, and speaks to a former MP in the American deep-south to find out.Plus John Stevens and Jane Merrick discuss whether boilers are the new front in green politics, the Greenpeace activist standing for Labour and the rules of etiquette on the beach Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Keir Starmer is firmly ahead in the polls, but nothing in politics is ever certain. So, how do you lose an election that seems unloseable? Patrick Maguire looks at Hilary Clinton's defeat to Donald Trump with Corey Dukes, former state director for Hillary Clinton's campaign in Pennsylvania, and the Australian Labor Party's shock loss in 2019 with Ryan Liddell, former Chief of Staff to Bill Shorten.Plus: Columnists Libby Purves and Rachel Sylvester discuss Liz Truss' honours resignation list, disappointing A-level results, and whether Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg would win a boxing match. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Very few people in Westminster have had as many lunches as The Sunday Times' Chief political commentator Tim Shipman.So for the final day of food week, he settles his bet for a big lunch by joining Matt at Hawksmoor in Borough Market, to discuss wining and dining ministers, how he is getting on with his book, and the senior politician who had a cheesy doggie bag.Plus: Columnists India Knight and James Marriot chat about cheering up, beans and what it takes to be a professional beer taster  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What is it like to cook for world leaders, celebrities, and even the Queen? Graham Howarth is the Head Chef at Chequers - the PM's country retreat. He tells Matt Chorley about being left speechless when the Queen came for dinner, and the prime minister who fancied themselves as a cook.Plus: Columnists Giles Coren and Abbie Moulton discuss going vegan, new food trends, and why burrata is overrated. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join Matt for a pint in Westminster's Red Lion pub. He talks to Gordon Brown's former spin doctor Charlie Whelan about how he inadvertently killed Tony Blair's dream of Britain joining the Euro with a spritzer in his hand, while Ben Wright talks us through which prime minister loved a drink the best.Plus: Alice Thomson and Robert Crampton eat some insects and discuss the plastic bag tax, wild camping in Dartmoor, and debate brown sauce vs ketchup. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After Rishi Sunak delayed the ban on buy-one-get-one-free deals on fatty foods for two years, Matt takes stock of how much the nanny state is policing what we put in our shopping baskets and debates whether more government regulation could help solve the obesity crisis. Plus: Jane Merrick and Matthew Bell discuss the politics of milk, tougher sentencing for shoplifters and how cooking with your spouse can make or break your relationship. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Food week begins with the history of Bellamy's, a restaurant that's been serving politicians' portions for 250 years. Charles Walker is the MP in charge of all the bars and restaurants in parliament and he tells Matt that Keir Starmer is wrong to criticise the salads on offer, and why a shortage of chefs has led to some eateries closing. Plus: Columnists Libby Purves and Iain Martin discuss green politics becoming the new dividing line, whether life coaches can solve the problem of long-term unemployment and which is better: tea or coffee.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

More than one hundred new political parties have already been registered this year, but what does it take to create one that goes the distance? Kate McCann is in for Matt, and speaks to former First Minister Alex Salmond, the Rubbish Party's Sally Cogley, and Maia Thomas, spokesperson for the Transform party, to find out.Plus: Columnists India Knight and James Marriott discuss 'global boiling', politicians on holidays, whether films should be shorter, and delighting in others' relationship woes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A group of people from across England who voted for the Conservatives at the 2019 election, but now say they plan to vote for Labour give their verdict on Rishi Sunak, who they describe as a "clone", and Keir Starmer, who they think is "smug". Matt is joined by James Johnson of J.L. Partners to find out why they're switching, and what might bring them back. Plus: Manveen Rana and Matthew Parris discuss whether MPs should be banned from drinking in parliament if they behave badly, if it matters that the government's plan to move civil servants out of London isn't working, and compare their worst travel experiences to Prue Leith's on the Caledonian Sleeper. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Matt is joined by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards Daniel Greenberg, the man in charge of investigating politicians behaviour. He discusses whether MPs' conduct is getting worse or not, and the possible punishments he could hand down to those that break the rules.And with no PMQs Unpacked this week, Times Radio's very own 'PM', Patrick Maguire, faces questions from callers about ULEZ, troubles for the SNP and how to get an MP to answer a straight question.Plus: Columnists Robert Crampton and Dorothy Byrne discuss the head of Natwest quitting over Nigel Farage's row with Coutts, Rishi Sunak's latest attack tweets and the return of the famous music magazine NME.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

With the climate at the top of the news agenda, why isn't the Green Party doing better? Matt asks Siân Berry if she can hold the party's only parliamentary seat, and finds out how green politicians in Europe have fared in government. Plus: Columnists Katy Balls and Kieran Andrews discuss whether Sunak, Starmer and Yousaf are leading or following, SNP attacks on the Labour Party, and Gregg Wallace's satirical look at eating human meat. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Should Rishi Sunak go early like Boris Johnson, or cling on until the bitter end like John Major? Matt considers the merits of an early or a late general election with pollsters Beth Mann and Peter Kellner, and the former Number 10 adviser Tim Smith.Plus: Columnists Libby Purves and Steve Richards discuss Michael Gove's plan to build more houses, tactical voting and the Lib Dems, and why people like to watch politics on the stage. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After the Conservatives suffered two by-election defeats but were spared the embarrassment of a whitewash, Matt explores what it means for Sunak and Starmer's fortunes with polling expert John Curtice, Red Box Editor Patrick Maguire, Conservative Minister Claire Coutinho, Labour's Thangam Debbonaire and Lib Dem leader Ed Davey.Plus: Columnists James Heale and Eleni Courea discuss political expectation management, lobbying via WhatsApp, and why teenagers are getting their news from TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As MPs leave Westminster for the summer recess, Matt brings you his guide to the dos and don'ts of taking some time away from politics. He talks about Harold Wilson's knees, David Cameron's sunburn and the sea being closed with Claire Irvin from the Times and Sunday Times, and former Number 10 adviser Giles Kenningham.Plus: Columnists Manveen Rana and Matthew Bell discuss whether the Tories can pin Just Stop Oil on Labour, how the giant panda has become one of China’s diplomatic tools, and why world leaders are getting shorter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The deputies have gone, and Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer are back at PMQs for their last outing before the summer recess. Matt pauses and unpacks the action from the Commons with Tim Shipman and Stig Abell, as the leaders clash over NHS waiting times and spending.Plus: Columnists Alice Thomson and Carol Lewis discuss inflation, Nigel Farage's bank account, and anti-social youths in Cornwall. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley joins Matt to talk about his plan to overhaul Britain's largest force, warning it will be a 'bumpy journey', and Matt heads out with with two officers to find out what an afternoon answering 999 calls is really like.Plus: Columnists Tim Montgomerie and Jane Merrick discuss whether the government can stop the small boats, Tony Blair and Keir Starmer, and whether you should rewild your garden. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

When George Osborne promised to scrap inheritance tax on the family home in 2007, it was credited with deterring Gordon Brown from holding a snap election. Could the government afford to abolish it entirely, and is any kind of tax cut really on the cards? Matt speaks to former cabinet minister John Redwood, and former Labour adviser Lord Wood.Plus: Columnists Rachel Sylvester and Libby Purves discuss "rip-off" university degrees, Labour's tangle over the benefits cap, and whether we should let seagulls steal our chips. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Matt looks at a boom in hyper-local community radio, including the station bringing you the sounds of a hedge for eight hours.Plus: Columnists James Marriott and Gaby Hinsliff are joined in the studio by a live brass band as they discuss whether Britain has lost its religion, whether the Conservatives can win the next election, and what locals make of Boris Johnson's swimming pool plans. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If your town hall isn't already in trouble, it could be soon. Local authorities around the country are taking drastic action to balance the books, with many now paying the bills for failed business ventures too. Matt is joined by Tim Minogue, editor of Private Eye's Rotten Boroughs column, Kirsty Weakley from the Local Government Chronicle, and journalists covering some of the worst-affected areas.Plus: Columnists Matthew Parris and Matthew Bell ask whether Labour really will get tough over ethics, whether Rishi Sunak is being written off too soon, and whether Keir Starmer needs a voice coach. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's Deputy PMQs, and Matt and Tim Shipman are joined by a deputy head teacher to help them pause and unpack the action as Oliver Dowden and Angela Rayner trade blows over housing policy and child poverty.Plus: Columnists Janice Turner and John Stevenson discuss Rishi Sunak's hog roast for Tory MPs, the return of Liz Truss, and Keir Starmer's love of the flute. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As Henry Zeffman leaves the Times, he joins Daniel Finkelstein and Matt one last time. They discuss what politics will look like in 2030, how journalists protect their sources, and what happened when they went to play crazy golf. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's been four years since the term 'Red Wall' entered the political lexicon. Matt is joined by the man who coined the phrase, analyst James Kanagasooriam, as well as former Tory chairman Jake Berry and Labour's Jenny Chapman, who lost her seat in 2019. Plus: Columnists Libby Purves and Patrick Maguire discuss Joe Biden's UK trip, the prospect of a Labour reshuffle, and why we should be a bit less precious about the loss of railway ticket offices. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's been a year since Boris Johnson resigned outside Downing Street, telling the nation: "Them's the breaks." Matt is joined by impressionist Jon Culshaw and columnists James Marriott and Gaby Hinsliff to discuss exclusive new polling about the former prime minister and whether people want him back.Plus: Decisions, decisions, decisions. We convene a panel of experts to discuss the difficult trade-offs in politics when deciding who gets what, and who misses out. With the chair of the UK Statistics Authority Sir Robert Chote, Professor Paul Dolan from the LSE, former minister Dame Margaret Hodge and Tracey Brown from Sense About Science. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In two weeks' time Rishi Sunak faces major by-election tests in the seats vacated by Boris Johnson, Nigel Adams and David Warburton, and the suspension of former whip Chris Pincher means there could be at least one more on the way. Matt speaks to Times journalists on the ground to find out where the Conservatives have a chance of holding on.Plus: Columnists Manveen Rana and Matthew Bell discuss oracy lessons with Keir Starmer, whether Bishops should sit in the House of Lords, and where they sit in the great hanging basket debate. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Deputies Oliver Dowden and Angela Rayner stand in at PMQs and clash over mortgage rates and problems in the rental market. Matt pauses and unpacks the action with the help of Tim Shipman and tennis coach Mark Petchey, who joins us live from Wimbledon.Plus Columnists Alice Thomson and Robert Crampton discuss whether Rishi Sunak's low attendance record at PMQs is a problem, whether Robert will be downloading Mark Zuckerberg's new Twitter alternative, and how to solve the rental crisis. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Six months ago today, Rishi Sunak laid out five key pledges that he said would build a better future for the country. Matt and a panel of experts from The Times deliver their verdict on the progress he has made so far and whether or not he is on course to achieve those promises.Plus: For the penultimate time, columnists Danny Finkelstein and Henry Zeffman discuss whether the Tory Party is struggling to renew itself under Rishi Sunak, whether the number of MPs in parliament should be halved but their salaries doubled, and whether anything interesting ever happens at the liaison committee. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ian Blackford joined the SNP aged 16, going on to lead the party in Westminster during a period of high political drama. In the latest episode of our series reflecting on the careers of MPs leaving Parliament at the next election, he tells Matt about his regrets over negative campaigning against Charles Kennedy, what he thinks about Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond, and how he came to be known as the 'humble crofter'.Plus Libby Purves and Rachel Sylvester discuss whether there's anything to celebrate as the NHS turns 75 this week and why Labour and the Lib Dems are targeting middle aged women at the next election Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's been a century since the broadcasters first asked to record what goes on in Parliament, although cameras didn't make it into the Commons chamber until 1989. Matt goes behind the scenes to see how it all works, and to hear about some of the speeches and debates that have defined political history.Plus: Columnists India Knight and James Marriott discuss whether more politicians should take a long-term view, what India takes to a barbecue, and whether Britain is becoming too obsessed with America. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Baroness McDonagh, Labour's first female general secretary, was a key figure in the paty and was instrumental in Tony Blair's election victories in 1997 and 2001Following her recent death, Matt revisits an interview she gave in 2017 when she talked about designing the pledge card to keep politicians on message, her trip to the cinema with John Prescott, and what happened when she realised the party had won a landslide.Plus Columnists Patrick Maguire and Matthew Parris discuss whether the government's Rwanda plan is finished, claims that Boris Johnson's allies waged war on the Privileges Committee, and whether Angela Rayner and Lisa Nandy will keep their current shadow cabinet jobs. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer trade blows over housing statistics, Matt pauses and unpacks the action with the help of Peter Dickson, the voice of the X Factor and Britain's Got Talent.Plus: Columnists Alice Thomson and Robert Crampton discuss the degree marking fiasco, the death of the "good chap" system and whether Elton John is brilliant or terrible. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Swing voters from across England give their verdict on Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer and explain why they'd rather have consumer expert Martin Lewis at Number 10. The good news for the prime minister is they've heard of his five pledges, the bad news is they don't think he can deliver on them - and are in a mood for change. Matt is joined by James Johnson of J.L. Partners to analyse their verdict.Plus: Columnists Daniel Finkelstein and Henry Zeffman discuss whether Conservatives should ever intervene to make things cheaper, why there hasn't been a Labour reshuffle, and whether the Tory path to victory is now improbably narrow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sir Ben Bradshaw spent almost a decade as a junior minister before reaching the cabinet under Gordon Brown. In the latest episode of our series talking to MPs leaving Parliament at the next election, he tells Matt about forming a 'council of elders' to advise the current shadow cabinet on how to be in government, and the importance of doing yoga in the office.Plus columnists Jane Merrick and Matt Bell discuss public sector pay, Prince William's plan to tackle homelessness, and we see what happens when you take apart an e-cigarette. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As defence secretary when the Falklands were invaded, John Nott had to check the globe in his office and was horrified to see how far away the islands were.He talks to Matt about the conflict that defined Margaret Thatcher's legacy, and why he walked out of a TV interview when Robin Day called him a 'here-today, gone-tomorrow politician'. He also reveals his connection to the Peppa Pig song.PLUS: Columnists India Knight and James Marriott discuss whether they feel reassured when Rishi Sunak says "I'm totally, 100% on it", and why James is worried about righteous anger from centrist populists. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Labour Leader Keir Starmer joins Matt in the studio to discuss help for homeowners, travelling by helicopter, whether Tony Blair should be in the Lords - and he has a go at the quiz, Can You Get To Number 10.Plus: We look at exclusive new polling by YouGov showing the Conservatives may have lost the countryside, and columnists Carol Lewis and Matthew Bell discuss house prices and things they'd ban in restaurants. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer argue over whether there's a "Tory mortgage penalty", Matt is joined by special guests Jane Garvey and Fi Glover to pause and unpack the exchanges from Prime Minister's Questions.Plus: Columnists Alice Thomson and Robert Crampton on whether homeowners should expect the state to help with mortgages, why we look down on people who want to get into politics, and why Robert is a cinnamon roll... and proud of it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Daniel Finkelstein and Henry Zeffman discuss what we we learned from the MPs defending Boris Johnson during the debate over the Privileges Committee report, and why is Keir Starmer planning to fill the Lords with new Labour peers?Plus: Does Britain care about freedom? New research by US Pollster Frank Luntz shows how important freedom is to the UK public, and how political parties can use the concept to win their votes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sir Gary Streeter started out in the SDP, defected to the Tories, was an aide to John Major after his general election defeat and was sacked by Iain Duncan Smith after telling him he was 'unelectable'.He joins Matt for the latest episode of the Exit Interviews - our series talking to MPs leaving Parliament at the next election.Plus columnists Rachel Sylvester and Iain Martin enter the 'no Boris zone' to discuss Labour's green energy promises, the SNP slumping in the polls, and has a mathematician invented a new swear word? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.