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Donald Trump’s election victory has liberals torn over whether or not to ditch X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter and owned by Trump’s billionaire benefactor Elon Musk. They say it’s become a hotbed of disinformation and accuse Musk of using it to push a political agenda. POLITICO contributing writer and long-time tech journalist Nancy Scola spoke to a dozen Democratic lawmakers and activists who defended their decision to stay or leave. She joins host Steven Overly to discuss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Billionaire Frank McCourt wants to create a more decentralized internet, one where big tech companies don’t hold all the power and individuals control their own data. But McCourt believes people need to see that version of the internet to believe it is possible, so he is leading a coalition trying to purchase TikTok — assuming President-elect Donald Trump will still force it to be sold. On POLITICO Tech, McCourt sat down with host Steven Overly at a recent Project Liberty summit to discuss his vision for the internet’s future. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two years on from the release of ChatGPT, OpenAI has been beefing up its efforts to shape the way governments manage artificial intelligence. And earlier this year, the company tapped Democratic political veteran Chris Lehane to oversee global affairs. Now, Lehane is laying out proposals for how the U.S. government should invest in data, energy and chips to stay competitive with China. On POLITICO Tech, Lehane joins host Steven Overly to explain the company’s agenda and expectations for the incoming Trump administration. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Silicon Valley voted en masse for Vice President Kamala Harris, but Democratic support there did decline, just as it did in many other parts of the country. Host Steven Overly called up Rep. Ro Khanna to talk about how Democrats win back voters -- both in Silicon Valley and the heartland – which he says will require Democrats to embrace tech as a force for rebuilding the country and the economy. Plus, Khanna weighs in on Elon Musk’s plans to cut government spending under the incoming Trump administration. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Secretary Gina Raimondo has morphed the Commerce Department over the past four years into an agency focused on national security — enacting a massive, high-tech industrial policy aimed at beating China. And with two months left in her tenure, she is now racing to cement that legacy. On POLITICO Tech, Raimondo joins host Steven Overly to talk about her plans to dole out all microchip subsidies, today’s global summit on AI safety and why she thinks her work will withstand a Republican-controlled Washington. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

President Joe Biden held the final meeting of his term with Chinese leader Xi Jinping over the weekend, and the pair walked away with an agreement not to allow artificial intelligence to control nuclear weapons. But their joint statement amounts to a handshake deal — just as President-elect Donald Trump is poised to return to the White House. On POLITICO Tech, Gregory Allen from the Center for Strategic and International Studies joins host Steven Overly to explain why the deal matters and what doubts about AI-powered weapons remain. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Washington, the people animate the policy. And that means new power players in the incoming Trump administration and Congress will shape everything from artificial intelligence to telecom regulations. On POLITICO Tech, reporter John Hendel joins host Steven Overly to discuss the newly elected leadership in the Senate, as well as Trump’s attorney general nominee Matt Gaetz and his pick for Federal Communications Commission chair, Brendan Carr. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Box CEO Aaron Levie backed Vice President Kamala Harris in last week’s presidential election. But now that former President Donald Trump is returning to the White House, Levie says he’s getting on board with Trump’s deregulation agenda. A big reason for that support? His Silicon Valley compatriot, Elon Musk. On POLITICO Tech, Levie tells host Steven Overly why he thinks Democrats need to give Musk and his new government efficiency commission a chance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

President-elect Donald Trump has promised sweeping tariffs on all U.S. trading partners, including a whopping 60 percent tariffs on goods from China. And Trump’s allies are already plotting how to get them implemented. But tech lobbyists are preparing to fight back, with arguments about how tariffs will harm companies and worsen inflation. On POLITICO Tech, host Steven Overly chats with Ed Brzytwa of the Consumer Technology Association about the industry’s plans for the tariff war ahead. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Defense Department shelled out more than $400 billion in contracts last fiscal year, but only a sliver of that money went to defense startups. Now, those companies hoping the incoming Trump administration will funnel more federal dollars their way, especially with Elon Musk advocating on their behalf. On POLITICO Tech, reporter Christine Mui joins host Steven Overly to explain what defense startups want from the next administration and what hurdles they will need to overcome. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After every major election, the losing side faces a dreaded question: Where did it all go wrong? But journalist Steven Waldman, the co-founder and president of Rebuild Local News and Report for America, argues that pollsters and reporters are overlooking a key factor when debating that question after last week’s outcome. On POLITICO Tech, Waldman explains why the place where voters get their news and information — legacy media or social media — likely influenced which candidate they support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Congress returns to Washington tomorrow with the results of last week’s election hanging overhead. But the weeks ahead could be a busy time for tech. Congress has let legislation languish on issues like artificial intelligence, spectrum authorization and kids online safety — and some lawmakers are now eager to get them done. On POLITICO Tech, host Steven Overly and reporter Brendan Bordelon break down expectations for the lame duck session. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Silicon Valley executives lauded President-elect Donald Trump after his big win Tuesday night. And while buttering up the president-to-be is typical, the flattery may be especially strategic in Trump’s case, argues Chamber of Progress CEO Adam Kovacevich. On POLITICO Tech, Kovacevich tells host Steven Overly how he expects companies to handle Trump’s “personal grievance agenda” this time around, and what his return means for AI, antitrust and other tech policy issues. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former President Donald Trump wasn’t the only big winner on Tuesday night. Elon Musk made a big bet on Trump during the election, becoming his billionaire benefactor and social media hype man. And now that Trump is returning to the White House, Musk stands to cash in both politically and financially. On POLITICO Tech, national political correspondent Meridith McGraw and Digital Future Daily author Derek Robertson join host Steven Overly to break down Musk’s new power and influence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump will be the next president. But so much in tech policy depends on which party controls Congress. And last night, Republicans also took control of the Senate. That has big implications for policy debates over issues like artificial intelligence, data privacy and cryptocurrency. POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly and reporter Brendan Bordelon discuss what this new balance of power in Washington means for Silicon Valley. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There will be many races to watch as election results pour in tonight. That includes the competition among news outlets to one-up each other with splashy new technology. After all, it’s an Election Night tradition. POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly chats with CNN senior product director Manav Tanneeru about the network’s “Magic Wall” app, and then Aspen Digital executive director Vivian Schiller explains why journalists should keep it simple. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Election Day is nearly upon us. (Finally!) But any uncertainty over the outcome is sure to turbocharge disinformation from foreign adversaries and fellow Americans alike. Ginny Badanes leads the Democracy Forward program at Microsoft, which aims to defend campaigns and election administrators against operations from Russia, China and Iran. On POLITICO Tech, Badanes tells host Steven Overly how Microsoft is bracing for the critical days ahead. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Federal Election Commission faced a big question this election cycle: Should political candidates be banned from making AI-generated deepfakes of their opponents? POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly attended the GovAI Summit this week for a live interview with Democratic FEC Commissioner Shana Broussard to discuss the agency’s recent decision, as well as AI disclaimers, social media influencers and the Elon Musk “smell test.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The nature of war is changing. $10 million tanks in Ukraine are being disabled by $10,000 drones — and many cutting-edge battlefield technologies today come from private companies rather than governments. Few people know more about harnessing commercial tech for the military than Raj Shah, who led the Pentagon’s Defense Innovation Unit before founding his own venture capital firm. Now he’s on the board of the NATO Innovation Fund. On the show today, he speaks with POLITICO deputy tech editor Daniella Cheslow to talk about how to translate leading technology to the battlefield. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Data firms are hoovering up all sorts of information about us, and then selling it to political campaigns and advocacy groups. But one of these data collectors is using that information to extrapolate whether voters might believe QAnon conspiracies or support Jan. 6 insurrectionists — raising concerns about more than just privacy. POLITICO reporter Alfred Ng joins host Steven Overly to talk about the controversial voter database. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Elon Musk’s $1 million giveaways for swing-state voters have drawn scrutiny from federal and state law enforcement, though Musk denies the money is intended to drive voter registration. On POLITICO Tech, David Becker from the Center for Election Innovation and Research tells host Steven Overly why he thinks Musk is flouting the law, and how his political engagement both fits the mold and breaks new ground when it comes to billionaires on the campaign trail. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Election Day is (inescapably) just over a week away. But in its waning months, the Biden administration is still cranking out policy. In particular, President Biden put out guidelines late last week detailing how national security agencies should handle artificial intelligence, and stay ahead of China in the global race for the AI future. On today's show, POLITICO tech reporter Mohar Chatterjee breaks down what exactly Biden's new memo calls for, and what challenges it creates for the next president. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The combination of rising energy demands and fears about climate change is fueling fresh interest in nuclear energy, and the movement is getting a boost from Big Tech. But the return to nuclear power is not just a U.S. phenomenon. In Italy, a new generation of climate conscious young people is shaking up the debate — spurred in part by an unlikely social media influencer. On POLITICO Tech, climate reporter Federica Di Sario joins host Steven Overly to introduce the Atomic Advocate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When you apply for a job, AI is often part of the process whether you know it or not. With technology making more employment decisions, there are real questions about discrimination happening faster and more frequently, and who is to blame when it does. Keith Sonderling, who spent the past four years as a Republican commissioner from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission tells host Steven Overly that the answers actually lie in existing employment laws, the ones written some 60 years ago. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The term “sovereign AI” gets thrown around a lot in tech circles these days, but there’s no one set definition for what it means. Ultimately, it comes down to a race among countries to build and own the world’s most powerful artificial intelligence models. On POLITICO Tech, host Steven Overly interviews Tech Policy Solutions founder Pablo Chavez at the Meridian Summit in Washington, D.C., about the tensions this global competition is creating and what may determine the winner. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A House task force is expected to roll out a bipartisan wish list for AI regulations by year’s end and Rep. Ami Bera (D-Calif.) is one of the lawmakers shaping that agenda. A physician prior to entering Congress, Bera is particularly focused on questions that AI raises about the future of health care. POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly sat down with Bera on the sidelines of the Meridian Summit to discuss where new rules are needed most and whether the election outcome will impact how Congress acts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Arizona was an epicenter for election disinformation four years ago. A hotbed for false claims about election rigging and for politicians who still deny the results. It’s Adrian Fontes’ job to combat that — he’s Arizona’s Democratic secretary of state. Fontes joins POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly to talk about how his office is preparing for Election Day, and why he thinks the long battle against election disinformation will eventually be won. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greg Epstein is the humanist chaplain at Harvard and MIT, and he has spent the past several years examining the rising power of tech through the lens of faith. An atheist, Epstein came away with the belief that tech is now “the world’s most powerful religion” — and all of us, its unwitting congregants. On POLITICO Tech, Epstein joins host Steven Overly to talk about his new book, “Tech Agnostic,” and why he sees the need for a tech “reformation.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Government internet programs aren’t usually at the center of political attacks. But the Broadband Equity, Access and Deployment program, or BEAD, has become a Republican target amid Vice President Kamala Harris’s campaign for president. On POLITICO Tech, Assistant Secretary of Commerce Alan Davidson, who heads the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, joins host Steven Overly to discuss the agency’s latest broadband investments in Florida and Alabama, and to refute GOP critics who say the program is behind schedule. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The crypto industry is spending millions of dollars this election cycle in a bid to reshape Congress, including pivotal Senate races in Ohio, Michigan and Arizona. But ads the industry is funding focus on issues like the economy, immigration and reproductive freedom — with no mention of crypto. On POLITICO Tech, reporter Jessica Piper joins host Steven Overly to explain why this little industry is spending big, and the tactics it’s using to send more crypto-friendly candidates to Washington. Steven Overly is the host of POLITICO Tech. Jessica Piper is a reporter at POLITICO. Annie Rees is the managing producer for audio at POLITICO. Afra Abdullah is the producer of POLITICO Tech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Over the last month, the Southeastern United States has been hammered by back-to-back hurricanes. But weather aside, experts are pointing to another big storm – the swirl of storm and recovery-related disinformation online. One of the experts tracking all this is Danielle Lee Tomson, who works as the research manager at the University of Washington’s Center for an Informed Public. She talked to host Steven Overly about how these fake claims are being amplified, and why there’s likely more disinformation coming even if these hurricanes have passed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tech billionaire Elon Musk wants to leverage his starpower to put former President Donald Trump back in the White House. But will Musk’s deep pockets and large online following make a difference in the swing states where Trump needs him most? POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly sits down with national political reporter Alex Isenstadt and Digital Future Daily author Derek Robertson to discuss Musk’s deepening political involvement and whether he can truly turn out the “bro vote” for Trump come Election Day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A recent experiment involving two fake political ads tested voter reactions to seeing AI disclaimers — with surprising results. The study’s lead researcher Scott Babwah Brennen, the director of the Center on Technology Policy at NYU, joins Steven Overly to break down the findings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Artificial intelligence may not be as smart as humans — at least not yet — but the technology is progressing faster than Aidan Gomez ever imagined. Now, the Cohere CEO says the trick is convincing people and companies to embrace it. On POLITICO Tech, Gomez sits down with host Steven Overly to talk about what that will take and how fast it can happen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week marks one year since the Hamas attack that left about 1,200 Israelis dead. Since then, tens of thousands of people have been killed -- the majority of them Palestinians living in Gaza. And many, many more have had their lives profoundly disrupted. But an online war has also raged over the past year. Social media has been flooded with disinformation and propaganda, part of an all-out effort to distort the conflict and how it's viewed around the world. Host Steven Overly called up Atlantic Council senior fellow Mark Scott to talk about the watershed moment for warfare in the digital age. Steven Overly is the host of POLITICO Tech. Mark Scott is a Senior Fellow for the Atlantic Council. Annie Rees is the managing producer for audio at POLITICO. Afra Abdullah is a POLITICO audio producer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nobel Peace Prize laureate Maria Ressa wants to scare some sense into us. The U.S. election is just a month away,and she says the outcome is a tipping point in the fight for democracy over autocracy. Maria founded the news site Rappler in the Philippines back in 2012 and faced relentless persecution for her journalism under former President Rodrigo Duterte. Host Steven Overly sat down with Ressa to talk about the state of journalism, big tech, and disinformation as she sees it today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A recent poll conducted by a policy research firm called the Rainey Center asked people about the tech issues that matter most to them. Today, host Steven Overly digs into voters top-of-mind tech issues with Katie Harbath, the chief global affairs officer at Duco Experts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s a Republican attack ad in Indiana that in recent days has gotten a lot of attention — a digitally altered image that Sen. Mike Braun’s campaign put out, before slapping a required disclosure label on it, and highlighting it as a prime example of complying with a new Indiana law about deepfakes. Host Steven Overly talks with national political reporter Adam Wren about the unfolding ad drama, and the potential legal battle it could trigger. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ever since it became clear that Kamala Harris would be the Democratic nominee, there’s been speculation about whether she will continue the Biden administration’s crackdown on big tech companies. In particular, questions about how she will handle ongoing antitrust investigations and lawsuits. On POLITICO Tech, reporter Josh Sisco joins host Steven Overly to discuss the Harris antitrust agenda and why it has both the tech industry’s friends and critics on edge. Steven Overly is the host of POLITICO Tech. Joshua Sisco is an antitrust reporter for POLITICO. Annie Rees is the managing producer for audio at POLITICO. Afra Abdullah is the producer for POLITICO Tech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we’re talking California. Specifically, Governor Gavin Newsom’s veto of California’s sweeping AI bill that was meant to impose safety vetting requirements for powerful AI models. California reporters Lara Korte and Jeremy White chat with Annie Rees about what happened and what’s ahead. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does the future of war look like? That’s a big question — and one that POLITICO reporter Mohar Chatterjee asked Pentagon’s AI chief Radha Plumb. She spoke to Mohar about the Pentagon's massive backend AI overhaul, how the agency’s innovation approach stacks up against China’s, and the ethics of using AI in battle. Mohar Chatterjee is an technology reporter for POLITICO. Annie Rees is the managing producer for audio at POLITICO. Afra Abdullah is a POLITICO audio producer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Electric vehicles are transforming Georgia’s economy with billions of dollars in clean tech investments and jobs, but local voters aren’t interested in buying the new vehicles. That presents a unique political problem for Democrats and Republicans this election season and prompts questions about Americans’ attitudes toward new climate technologies. On POLITICO Tech, David Ferris from POLITICO’s E&E News breaks down Georgia’s EV identity crisis and what that means for the 2024 presidential race. David Ferris covers the intersection of transportation and the electric grid for POLITICO’s E&E News. Josh Siegel is an energy reporter for POLITICO. Nirmal Mulaikal is a POLITICO audio host-producer. Annie Rees is the managing producer for audio at POLITICO. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How does the Biden administration break up with certain Chinese tech supply chains without severing trade ties with China? That's a question we're watching play out right now. Jon Bateman, the co-director of the Technology and International Affairs Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, wrote a report in 2022 that remains a key document in unpacking the challenges of technological decoupling with China — and in today's episode of POLITICO Tech, he talks with POLITICO's D.C.-based China correspondent —and author of the twice-weekly China Watcher newsletter — Phelim Kine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When Donald Trump was first elected to the White House, he tapped a young and relatively unknown guy named Michael Kratsios to be the nation’s chief technology officer. Today, Kratsios is back outside politics, working as the managing director at the company Scale AI. At Politico’s AI and Tech Summit last week, he spoke with POLITCO’s global tech editor Steve Heuser. They talked about what Trump’s tech policy might look like in a second term, and why he thinks Vance will be a champion for “little tech.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Marietje Schaake thinks Silicon Valley has pulled off a major power grab, taking on decisions that were once made by elected leaders and democratic governments. A former EU parliamentarian now at Stanford, Schaake outlines the problems posed by tech’s growing influence over our daily lives in a new book, “The Tech Coup.” On POLITICO Tech, Schaake joins host Steven Overly to explain what governments can do to take back their power. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s growing concern among global leaders that artificial intelligence will be controlled only by the wealthiest nations — the same nations that control most of the technology today. Eurasia Group founder and president Ian Bremmer serves on the UN’s AI advisory body and co-authored a report outlining ideas for making AI more equitable. On POLITICO Tech, Bremmer tells host Steven Overly what he thinks a new international AI order should look like and why it’s key to addressing one of the biggest geopolitical risks today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The UN General Assembly kicks off this weekend and world leaders are expected to have tech top of mind. Google CEO Sundar Pichai will be there, making a rare, high-profile speech where he’s expected to urge world leaders to work together. Ahead of his address, POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly talked with Karan Bhatia, Google’s global head of government affairs and public policy, about Google’s AI message to the world, the regulations it can live with and whether its antitrust trials are hampering its AI ambitions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

POLITICO held its AI and Tech Summit earlier this week, where host Steven Overly sat down with Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar. On today’s episode, we air that conversation. Klobuchar is one of the Senate’s leading Democratic voices warning about the dangers of artificial intelligence this election cycle; and as Senate Rules Committee chair, she introduced legislation that would ban AI deepfakes of candidates and require disclaimers for political ads made with AI. But with the election now weeks away, those rules still aren’t on the books — and it’s not likely there will be any movement before election day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rep. Jay Obernolte (R-Calif.) is helping set the House’s artificial intelligence agenda as co-chair of a bipartisan task force in the House. That includes more than a dozen AI-related bills he thinks the lower chamber can pass this year. On POLITICO Tech, host Steven Overly sat down with Obernolte at POLITICO’s AI & Tech Summit this week for a live taping of the podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bradley Tusk started his career in government before making big bucks in tech and venture capital. He’s now pouring millions of dollars into building and testing technology that would allow people to cast votes from a smartphone. On POLITICO Tech, Tusk joins host Steven Overly to discuss his new book, “Vote With Your Phone,” and lay out his case for why mobile voting can save democracy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices