Dr. David Kennedy – How Mercury & Fluoride Are Toxic To Your Health

Justin: Alright, well thank you everyone for joining us on this post holiday edition at Extreme Health Radio. I hope you guys had a great holiday, and a great Christmas, and a great new year, and I want to thank you for joining us. Starting off the new year, 2013, this is going to be a fun interview, we have Dr. David Kennedy on the line. So this is going to be really fun, talking about our oral health, and oral pathology, and how that relates to our overall health. So again, thank you for joining us. We broadcast worldwide from southern California, so thank you so much, this is extremehealthradio.com/53. If you want to find the transcription, and the show notes, and any reference materials the doctor talks about. And we broadcast three days a week, on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and thank you to Mike Adams of natural news radio for having us on his websites. It’s an honor and a blessing to be on there with him. So thank you to Mike Adams, and if you have any questions for the guest, feel free to send them to [email protected] and I will ask them to him, or you could call our voice mail line actually, which is 9493917363, and I will play your message to our guest on the air. And I want to let you know that this show is brought to you by amazon.com, and that’s another way you can support our work and keep our website free, is visiting extremehealthradio.com/amazon, and make any purchases through there, and we’ll get a little commission and you can do that every time you make a purchase and that will help support our work. And before I introduce doctor Kennedy I want to talk a little bit about our upcoming show schedule. On Friday we’ll be learning about fermented foods and the power of fermentation, Wild Fermentation, from Sandor Katz, he is a master, he has written numerous books, and he is a master at fermentation, so that should be fun. And then on Monday we’ve got doctor Caldwell Esselstyn, and he’ll be talking about heart disease, and how to prevent and revert heart disease, that’s the name of his book. Heart disease and cancer are the two biggies in our culture and if we can stave off those, we’re in good shape, so don’t forget to check out that episode and then on Wednesday we’ve got Dr. Doris Rapp, who’s a pioneer in the field of toxicity, and she’s going to be talking about how to cleanse our house, and our office space or work space from toxicity and things like that. That should be a good show. But today we’ve got Dr. David Kennedy, and he’s been involved in dentistry for more than 30 years and he’s the past president of the international academy of oral medicine and toxicology, and that website is iaomt.org, and he’s a specialist in mercury, and he’s very passionate about getting mercury out of our teeth as well as fluoride out of the water, and he’s an expert in root canals, and all this kind of stuff. He’s written tons of books and he’s a pioneer in this field, so thanks for joining us doctor Kennedy. It’s great to have you on.

Dr. David Kennedy: I’m glad to be here Justin, thanks for having me.

Justin: Oh, excellent. So you’re staying warm down there in San Diego?

Dr. David Kennedy: It’s down to 55 degrees outside.

Justin: That’s cold for us, isn’t it?

Dr. David Kennedy: Oh yeah. But I’m from Kansas and we’re used to it.

Justin: So you’ve been involved with this kind of stuff for your whole life, over 30 years, and you’ve also got that video, I was watching it, “smoking teeth”, this is an amazing video.

Dr. David Kennedy: I filmed that in, I tried it three times to film that as a demonstration by Roger Eichman. What it is it’s had almost three quarters of a million views on youtube and it’s actually on in about a dozen websites, so just on my website it’s had three quarters of a million views. It just drives the dentists crazy. A terrible thing is occurring right now on our watch, and it’s a crime, the American Dental Association said that the demonstration of smoking teeth, or the one Boyd Haley does, cannot be replicated, which is not true. Boyd Haley was a professor of chemistry at the University of Kentucky, he taught each one of his students in his freshmen chemistry class how to do it. It’s basically atomic absorption. But you can show mercury coming off an old dental amalgam filling 25, 30, 50 years after it was made, in enormous amounts. I’m not talking tiny, I’m talking enormous. And yet, here we have the trade association, that represents a hundred and fifty thousand dentists who are making money hand over fist putting poisonous metal fillings in people’s teeth, claiming that a proven fact of science is untrue. Well, why don’t they come watch the demonstration, why don’t they try to duplicate it themselves, because it would interfere with heir economic interest, which is continue to pack mercury in everybody’s teeth. It’s silly enough to sit there and let them do it. They deceive the public calling it silver, it’s not silver. It is 50% mercury, and if I were to sell you a box of cereal that was 50% oats, I can’t call it wheat! I got to call it oat! Still, dentists are calling this thing silver. One dentist told me, well, we call it silver cause it’s silver color. And I said, well, I bought my wife a beautiful gold wedding ring, and it turned her finger green, and you told me it was gold, and I come back to get my money back, and you say, well, it’s golden color, it’s really copper, I’d have to take you to court and get my money back. Everybody should do that on their silver fillings. They’re not silver.

Justin: Yeah, it’s almost comical how bad they want to protect their infrastructure and everything else, isn’t it?

Dr. David Kennedy: Oh, it’s not comical. It’s a crime that’s ongoing on our time. And people say, Dr. Kennedy how come you get so worked up with this? And the reason I get worked up about this is, for one thing I’m from Kansas, and we don’t believe that cheating and stealing is a normal way of life. But two, it’s actually destroying the fabric of our nation. And it’s not just the mercury but the mercury, the fluoride, the lead, silicon fluoride, all that stuff. And it has impacted the children so severely that we now have an army of neurologically impaired children and an army of neurologically impaired adults. As an example, the diseases that are linked to mercury, and I’m not saying caused, I’m saying linked. Linked is that there is irrefutable, scientific evidence that mercury will produce symptoms similar to this, appears in larger amounts in this people, it is linked to Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, ALS, MS, idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy. The most common reason for someone to need a heart transplant is IDCM, and IDCM has 22000 times more mercury in their heart than a heart that died of a heart attack or something like that. A huge amount of healthcare is created by exposing people to poisonous metals. And the trouble is that most physicians don’t even understand it. The American Academy of Pediatrics, this is people who is supposed to be protecting our babies, just issued a press release opposing the United Nations phase out of mercury in vaccines, saying that those poor children, they need the mercury in the vaccines, and it’s so hot in some of those underdeveloped countries. We have to keep that thimerosal in there to keep them from becoming infected. Well, there are other things that work better, and who in their right mind would inject a baby with mercury. Well, that would be the American Academy of Pediatrics. And if you take a monkey, and inject it with exactly the same amount of mercury they want to inject in your babies, the monkey ends up neurologically impaired. Those monkeys can’t get mercury like humans, uh? It’s an ongoing problem, that you will not get action from trade associations. People seem to think trade associations are some form of government. They are not. They’re lobbyists. They’re the union that represents those people that are causing the crime. The dentists, the physicians, the pharmaceutical companies. They represent them, not you, not me, not our country, not our offspring, not our future generation. They represent the money. So why anybody would rely on them? It’s not understandable to me.

Justin: Right, so Sweden and Norway banned mercury, didn’t they?

Dr. David Kennedy: And many others. If you open up the package of amalgams. The mercury fillings come to the dentist office in a sealed container that’s shipped as hazardous material. If you open it up, every package has to come with a statement in California that says “this product contains mercury which is known by the State of California to cause birth defects and neurological impairment”. Or worse to that effect, the manufacturers have an MSDS sheet, material safety data sheet in it, and that says “not for use in children and pregnant women”. During the FDA hearings in 2006, one of the pediatric neurologists lady asked to the panel, she was on the panel, she asked to the panel, well surely in dentistry you have restricted the use of mercury in pregnant women, cause everybody here seems to agree that there’s a substantial release of mercury when a new filling is placed. And all the dentists on the panel looked at each other like a dear in a head light, and finally came around to the chair, who runs a big welfare clinic in Washington D.C. and he says “well, actually, there are no restrictions”. And the professors, the teachers of dental school say, “no, there are no restrictions”. Well, they haven’t even read the material safety data sheet. The manufacturer tells you not to do that. And yet these people, who have no training in toxicology, do not understand the impact of mercury on nerves. If you want to see a really good video, it’s on youtube, it’s called “how mercury causes neurodegeneration”. We can photograph this under a light microscope, with magnification, and put a tiny bit of mercury in a Petri dish with a growing nerve, and it stops growing and turns into neurofibrillary tangles. Does that sound familiar? What’s an Alzheimer brain? Neurofibrillary tangles. The only thing that produced neurofibrillary tangles in this ongoing experiment with the American public is mercury.
Justin: So you were saying a few minutes ago that mercury is not a causative factor but it is linked. How strong is the link of mercury to all these diseases you’re talking about?

Dr. David Kennedy: Let me be clear, I didn’t say it wasn’t causative, I said that the data is not yet sufficient to prove that it’s causative. This is slightly different, this is called “the cigarette defense”. In 1964 the surgeon general said “cigarettes may cause lung cancer”. 1994, they went on to say that it does cause cancer, and heart disease, and emphysema, and yada yada yada. Well, what happened in the ensuing 30 years, were 30 000 studies of cigarette smoking and of course there were several studies by the tobacco industry that said, “oh, no problem”, and then there were studies by independent researchers that said, “big problem”. So, the science requires an enormous amount of data to come up to the conclusion that it’s causal. It’s like trying to prove that somebody killed somebody, you can’t just be standing there with a smoking gun, you got to have a lot of other evidence to say “causal”. On the other hand, there are a lot of smoking guns. If you look at people with MS, I think I have 30 studies in my database. We submitted a, it’s on the iaomt website, it’s a petition to reconsider their FDA classification. And we cited an enormous body of literature, going back to the earliest days of multiple sclerosis, that linked it to mercury. You can have people develop multiple sclerosis-like symptoms from a single exposure to an enormous amount of mercury. So how can you say it’s not linked? Because the people with MS had more fillings, oh, maybe because they have MS they can’t brush their teeth as well. That’s an alternative explanation, but alternative explanations do not conflict with the conclusion that mercury is at least part and parcel of the broad spectrum. There are other diseases. Listen to that list again. Multiple sclerosis, and that’s basically a lesion in the brain, ALS, that’s a lesion in the brain, Parkinson’s, that’s a lesion in the brain, Alzheimer’s, that’s a lesion in the brain, all these things are lesions in the brain, and where does mercury accumulate? It accumulates in the brain, it loves sulfur. And that’s why I’ve sent you the video “how mercury causes neurodegeneration”. Why it does that? Mercury attaches to a protein called tubulin, which is supposed to insulate the nerve, and let your nerves grow out and form new synapses, and stuff like that. Well, tubulin falls off the nerve if it is exposed to mercury. So all of a sudden you have wires with no insulation, and that’s what’s called a neurofibrillary tangle. All of these data is not new news, it’s old news. We get denial from the people, the culprit. When was the last time a serial killer came and said, “I did it, I did it”. They’re serial killers, and they’re not admitting that they’re guilty.

Justin: Well, they really can’t, because they’re going to have to go back and people will be associating. They would have to have some sort of clause that would allow them to not be held accountable, right? For all these years of damage.

Dr. David Kennedy: You know, they actually did pass that clause, in the homeland security act after 9/11. The pharmaceutical industry slid a little clause in there saying that they were not guilty of causing autism from the vaccines. And that’s how it became a matter of national importance. So, no, you know what happens? It’s just exactly like the cigarettes. I broke a window when I was a kid. And one of the things that I was taught when I was growing up is that if you made a mistake, go confess to it, and figure out what is going to take to fix it, and take care of it. So, I went found the teacher that was responsible, and I said, you know, I hit this window, I didn’t mean to, I want to fix it. And I mowed yards in the summer, I got money, and he said, “thank you for telling me, I’ll look into it”. And they had a spare window in the shop and they didn’t even charge me anything. But that’s how you are supposed to do it. And then we get all these criminals, that spend all this time trying to hide behind proof of causation, and they end up, after the investigation is done, in a whole host of trouble because they made all these disingenuous claims in the process of trying to cover up. And so, what they end up being prosecuted for is not the original blunder. It’s understandable that people didn’t realize that mercury came out of the fillings until 1926. But after 1926, when Alfred Stock measured mercury in his own breath, they should have said, “oh, my goodness, that’s probably not a good thing”, let’s go another direction. They didn’t do that. They basically begun to cover up at that point, and in 1931 the American Dental Association held a meeting and said Dr. Stock is probably a very bad scientist. Well, he was the head of the German Kaiser Wilhelm Institute. He was not a bad scientist. He was a wonderful scientist. But what they do is they denigrate the source of the information. They didn’t do any experiments. They didn’t do any research. They just badmouthed the person that did do the research. And that’s, I think, what’s going to end up, when the jury hears this, and sees what they’ve been doing for the last 75, 80 years, they’re not going to be kind. They’re tired of their health being sacrificed to the altar of the all American dollar. One of the presidential candidates called dentists fat cats. I don’t think we’re fat cats, but the general public would have to say that we’re certainly making income better than the average guy.

Justin: That’s fascinating, we’re here with doctor David Kennedy, we got to take a short break. His website, if you’re interested in this kind of information, and all of the stuff, and his research, and articles and things like that, he’s got a great website, it’s iaomt.org. And we’re with doctor David Kennedy, we will be back after this break.

Justin: Alright, we’re having a good time here, with doctor David Kennedy, from the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, thank you doctor David for joining us. I wanted to ask you, what’s the deal with mercury? Is it still in the filling?, are doctors and dentists still putting these fillings in kids mouths?

Dr. David Kennedy: Yes, and unfortunately, most of the dentists who work on affluent Americans have moved away from using mercury fillings, and so a lot of people who are fairly well off think that dentist have quit using it, and that’s not true at all. They’re using slightly less than they used ten or twenty years ago, but they’re still using 50 tons a year, about a hundred thousand pounds are put in American teeth. And understand that an ounce will contaminate a ten thousand acre lake, so that amount of mercury, spread around in the environment. If for no other reason, you would want to quit doing that because what you put in somebody’s teeth, when they die, they go in the ground, then it goes into the water, or they get cremated, and it goes into the air. You have about ten grams of mercury in your teeth, so, you know, that’s not going to go away, that’s a deadly poison, and once you’ve mined it out of the mines, and put it in the hands of the dentists, who begins to put it either in your teeth or in his waste trash, it ends up going to the landfill, it ends up incinerated with the medical waste, it ends up coming out of crematoriums. So you end up with a world that’s contaminated with mercury, and that’s exactly what we have, we have, people are concerned about global warming and the mercury that’s coming out of coal. And when we do autopsies, this is 1987, so it’s not new news, it’s old news, but when you do autopsies of people, you find that the amount of mercury in their body is directly proportional to the number of mercury fillings in their teeth. It may have a few percentage points to do with whether or not their living near a coal fired power plant, or some industry that’s leaking mercury, but the biggest leak for mercury into your body is out of your teeth. Now, everybody who’s listening to this, do not run out and have the same idiot who put it in drill it back out because you will get an enormous dose of mercury in doing that, and that has killed people. One of the physicians told me of his triathlete patient who on a whim went from being able to run triathlons to being wheelchair bound for the rest of her life. Giving somebody a huge dose of mercury if it doesn’t kill them, injures them for life. So we don’t need that kind of removal. The IAOMT removes them safely, the IAOMT has an accreditation program to even teach people how to do this. You don´t learn this in dental school. Dental school is breaking the law. Every time a dental instructor opens an amalgam capsule to teach the student how to mix, pack, carve, polish the amalgam, they have broken occupational health and safety law. You cannot legally open those capsules unless you are in a space suit. And yet, every dental school in the United States, flagrantly, violates the law. I had an argument with the guy that was the dean of UCLA, I happened to be taking a course in UCLA, on a weekend, this is after the school was closed, and wandered around with my new five thousand dollars mercury sniffer. And the clinic, areas of the clinic, were 10, 20 times higher than California would allow a school to be. And I pointed this out to the dean and he said I unlawfully measured this clinic. And I said “I was taking a class, and you unlawfully exposed me to mercury”, and he says, “well, I’ve checked with our department and we keep our school within OSHA standards”, and I wrote him back, and I said, “your school is not a hazardous waste dump, and you can’t have students in a hazardous waste dump environment”. And he said he wasn’t going to discuss it anymore. The UCLA still is just as contaminated as it was thirty years ago. They don’t care that they’re breaking the law.

Justin: So, I got to ask you, are there issues with people that are working in traditional, regular, dentist offices? cause I imagine you could go to a regular dentist and have them take mercury out. You don’t want to do it but in theory, I guess it’s possible. So, in those kinds of situations, the receptionist and all of these other people, are they’re being exposed? I would imagine, to tons of mercury.

Dr. David Kennedy: Yeah, they are, and this was all in the 70s, this was the argument by the dentists to say, oh, we don’t see any problem in the dental profession, and then Roland did a case-control study in California dental assistance, and he showed that ladies that were working in dentistry had a 40% decrease in their ability to conceive a child. So one of the critical functions of a woman’s body is ovulation, and one out of five couples in America today are involuntary infertile. So Roland did a study and showed that, they controlled for everything they could possibly think of. They controlled for the frequency of copulation, they controlled for cigarette smoking, alcohol intake, age of the partners, fertility, everything they could think of, they controlled for, and they showed a 40% decline. Think about that, if your daughter went to get a job at a nice dental office, and the old dentist was still packing mercury, or even taking it out. The exposure is actually higher to the dental assistant during the removal process than it is during the placement process. We’re actually doing studies on this issue right now. And there’s vapor, and there’s also particulate, and that’s a terrible thing cause the particulate gets on your skin, absorbs, gets in you lungs, and continues to release over time. So dental personal are severely impaired, there’s a study showing that their kidneys are damaged, there’s another study showing they have neurological impairment, Diana Echevarria and James Woods did a study, even dental personal are excreting extremely low levels of mercury, low levels that are considered normal, if you can believe it’s normal to excrete out mercury.

Justin: I’m sorry doctor David, what that last, you said neurological impairment, and then you said a word that I didn’t quite catch.
Dr. David Kennedy: Probably Diana Echevarria, was the name of the author of the study

Justin: Ah, OK

Dr. David Kennedy: You know, they basically looked at dentist who were excreting extremely low levels of mercury and run a bunch of tests on them, neurological tests, instead of saying “they are able to stand and walk”, they actually started testing them, and found that they were severely impaired. They had suffered significant damage to their neurological systems, and that’s just occupational exposure. We’ve got studies showing that dental students are impaired, it’s a crime ongoing in our time, and the culprits are not ready to confess. I don’t know how you make them confess, but the problem is that they are continuing this very minute to injure people, without their knowledge. There was a poll that found that 76% of the population did not know there was mercury in a silver filling. I think that’s a major consumer deception. If you are selling mercury as silver, then you’re cheating.

Justin: Yeah, that should be a crime, just by itself. I’ve heard doctor Hal Huggins talk about one atom of mercury is too much.

Dr. David Kennedy: You know, one atom of mercury causes one atom of damage. David Eggleston long years ago, who did a study on T-cells, which are your virus fighting, disease fighting cells in your immune system. And if you put mercury fillings in, the T-cells dropped to very low levels. Well, what’s causing that? Well, they tried to eat the mercury up and died. So, when they die, they release the mercury, and it goes to another T-cell. And that releases the mercury, and it goes to another T-cell. So it’s like dominoes. But you don’t need to be swallowed in heavy metals, we’ve figure this long ago, that any heavy metal, lead, mercury, plutonium, all that stuff is bad. And what the dentists are demanding, and have withheld any consideration of the problem until it’s proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, is proof of causation. Well, we’ve got proof that it causes allergies, we’ve got proof that it causes neurological impairment, we’ve got proof that mercury causes this. No, they won’t accept that, they want proof that their filling causes that. It’s like trying to proof that your brand of cigarettes was the one that caused lung cancer and the other brand didn’t. I don’t think that’s a reasonable holding point for us to make health decisions.

Justin: I want to ask you really quickly, kind of getting out of the particulars that we’ve been into. As far as how far up it goes, you said that this mercury causes, or there’s a link to all of these diseases and a lack of being able to have a child. Do you think that the people at the very very top, do you think they know what’s going on, and they either can’t admit it because they’re protecting their brand or maybe there are other issues? If people are continually sick, that’s great for the medical industry. Do you think that there’s some of that going on?

Dr. David Kennedy: You know, that probably occurs at some level, but I think if we look at the history of the blunders that have gone on in medicine and health care for the last 200 years, the vast majority is just the paucity of knowledge on the part of the practitioners. It’s like, I didn’t learn anything about mercury toxicity when I went to dental school. They didn’t teach anything about that. And they don’t know anything about it. I know more about mercury than 99% of the dentists on the planet. But that’s because it became a point of interest to me, I joined the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, and we’ve heard from the who’s who on mercury research for the last 30 years. That should be taught in every dental school, because if you are going to use the stuff, even if you are going to remove it, you need to comply with the laws of this country. And the occupational laws prohibit you from even touching that stuff. We were talking about the people in the dental office that are impaired. The ones that have the highest blood levels are dental hygienists. Well, how does that happen? Well, you know, they have this little rubber cup, and they start polishing those fillings with the rubber cup, that makes mercury come off, and the hygienists inhale it. So the hygienists are the most mercury poisoned of the staff, than the dentist and the dental assistant. It’s an ongoing crime. These are employees. We filed a petition with the California Occupational Health and Safety, asking them to institute what’s called a vertical standard. They have it for lead, so if you were working at a battery factory, or something like that, where they’re still using lead, then you’d go in there, you’d get a written informed consent that says, this factory uses lead, here’s your gloves, here’s your goggles, here’s your hood, here’s your space suit, and go make those batteries. And so, you’ve got what’s called the right to know, and you’ve got occupational protective gear, and then the factory itself has engineering controls, with their giant fans, and all that stuff to keep the lead away from your breathing zone. And you have a respirator to keep it out of your lungs. We asked that they do something similar for the dentists and the dental assitants that are exposed to mercury. And everybody admits the levels are way above what OSHA is supposed to regulate. And the California OSHA board looked at our petition