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Here’s part twenty-one of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/11/01/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-21/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 21)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part twenty of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/news/2020/10/25/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-20/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 20)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part nineteen of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/news/2020/10/18/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-19/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 19)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

SRSLY WRONG is a leftist/futuristic podcast incorporating sketches in long-form episodes; I became aware of them last year when Michael Pulsford recommended their series on “library socialism”, an idea I was so stricken by that it made its way into The Lost Cause, a novel I’m writing now. The Wrong Boys invited me on for... <a href="https://craphound.com/news/2020/10/18/stop-techno-dystopia-with-srsly-wrong/" class="more-link" title="Read Stop Techno Dystopia with SRSLY WRONG">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

I’ve been a fan of the Judge John Hodgman podcast for so many years, and often threaten my wife with bringing a case before the judge whenever we have a petty disagreement. I was so pleased to appear on the JJHO podcast (MP3) this week as part of the podcast tour for Attack Surface!

A million years ago, I set sail on the Writing Excuses Cruise, a writing workshop at sea. As part of that workshop, I sat down with the Writing Excuses podcast team (Mary Robinette Kowal, Piper J Drake, and Howard Taylor) and recorded a series of short episodes explaining my approach to writing. I had clean... <a href="https://craphound.com/news/2020/10/18/talking-writing-with-the-writing-excuses-crew/" class="more-link" title="Read Talking writing with the Writing Excuses crew">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part eighteen of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). Content warning for domestic abuse and sexual violence. This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/10/12/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-18/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 18)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part seventeen of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/10/05/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-17/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 17)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

I was incredibly happy to appear on the MMT Podcast again this week, talking about economics, science fiction, interoperability, tech workers and tech ethics, and my new novel ATTACK SURFACE, which comes out in the UK tomorrow (Oct 13 US/Canada): https://pileusmmt.libsyn.com/68-cory-doctorow-digital-rights-surveillance-capitalism-interoperable-socks We also delved into my new nonfiction book, HOW TO DESTROY SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM, and... <a href="https://craphound.com/attacksurface/2020/09/30/attack-surface-on-the-mmt-podcast/" class="more-link" title="Read Attack Surface on the MMT Podcast">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part sixteen of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/09/28/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-16/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 16)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part fifteen of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/09/21/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-15/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 15)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

This week on my podcast, I read the first half of my latest Locus Magazine column, “IP,” the longest, most substantial column I’ve written in my 14 years on Locus‘s masthead. IP explores the history of how we have allowed companies to control more and more of our daily lives, and has come to mean,... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/09/14/ip/" class="more-link" title="Read IP">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

This week’s podcast is a generous excerpt – 3 hours! – of the audiobook for Attack Surface, the third Little Brother book, which is available for pre-order today on my very first Kickstarter. This Kickstarter is one of the most important moments in my professional career, an experiment to see if I can viably publish... <a href="https://craphound.com/attacksurface/2020/09/08/attack-surface-kickstarter-promo-excerpt/" class="more-link" title="Read Attack Surface Kickstarter Promo Excerpt!">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

For this week’s podcast, I read an excerpt from “How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism,” a free short book (or long pamphlet, or “nonfiction novella”) I published with Medium’s Onezero last week. HTDSC is a long critical response to Shoshanna Zuboff’s book and paper on the subject, which re-centers the critique on monopolism and the abusive... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/08/31/how-to-destroy-surveillance-capitalism/" class="more-link" title="Read How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part fourteen of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/08/24/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-14/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 14)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part thirteen of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/08/16/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-13/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 13)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Terra Nullius is my March 2019 column in Locus magazine; it explores the commonalities between the people who claim ownership over the things they use to make new creative works and the settler colonialists who arrived in various “new worlds” and declared them to be empty, erasing the people who were already there as a... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/08/11/terra-nullius/" class="more-link" title="Read Terra Nullius">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part twelve of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/08/03/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-12/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 12)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part eleven of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/07/27/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-11/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 11)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part ten of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/07/20/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-10/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 10)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

This week’s podcast is a reading of Full Employment, my latest Locus column. It’s a counter to the argument about automation-driven unemployment – namely, that we will have hundreds of years of full employment facing the climate emergency and remediating the damage it wreaks. From relocating all our coastal cities to replacing aviation routes with... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/07/13/full-employment-2/" class="more-link" title="Read Full Employment">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part nine of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/07/05/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-09/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 09)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part eight of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/06/29/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-08/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 08)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part seven of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/06/22/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-07-2/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 07)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part six of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/06/14/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-06/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 06)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

The kind folks at the Out of Left Field podcast just hosted me for a discussion of protests, surveillance tech and liberation (MP3).

Here’s part five of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). There’s more of Kurt in this week’s episode; as I mentioned in last week’s intro, Kurt is loosely based on my old... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/06/07/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-05/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 05)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

This week, I’m podcasting How Big Tech Monopolies Distort Our Public Discourse, a new article I wrote for the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s Deeplinks blog. It’s the most comprehensive of the articles I’ve written about the problems of surveillance capitalism, a subject I’ve also addressed in a forthcoming, book-length essay. In a nutshell, my dispute with... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/06/01/how-big-tech-monopolies-distort-our-public-discourse/" class="more-link" title="Read How Big Tech Monopolies Distort Our Public Discourse">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part four of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). In this installment, we meet Kurt, the crustypunk high-tech dumpster-diver. Kurt is loosely based on my old friend Darren Atkinson, who pulled... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/05/24/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-04/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 04)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part three of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). This is easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/05/18/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-03/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 03)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

For this week’s podcast, I take a break from my reading of my 2009 novel, Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town, to read aloud my latest Locus column, Rules for Writers. The column sums up a long-overdue revelation I had teaching on the Writing Excuses cruise last fall: that the “rules” we advise writers... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/05/11/rules-for-writers/" class="more-link" title="Read Rules for Writers">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part two of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (you can follow all the installments, as well as the reading I did in 2008/9, here). In this installment, we meet Kurt, the crustypunk high-tech dumpster-diver. Kurt is loosely based on my old friend Darren Atkinson, who pulled... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/05/04/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-02/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 02)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Here’s part one (MP3) of my new reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town, which debuted last weekend on the Podapalooza festival. It’s easily the weirdest novel I ever wrote. Gene Wolfe (RIP) gave me an amazing quote for it: “Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town is a glorious book,... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/04/27/someone-comes-to-town-someone-leaves-town-part-01/" class="more-link" title="Read Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town (part 01)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

I am about to start a serialized podcast reading of my novel Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town, whose first hour I’ve already got in the can. It debuts later this week on the Podapalooza festival, a pay-what-you-like, virtual podcasting festival that benefits Givedirectly, which makes direct cash grants to families affected by coronavirus... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/04/20/john-scalzis-the-last-emperox/" class="more-link" title="Read John Scalzi’s The Last Emperox">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Wil Wheaton and I swapped podcasts! I read his 2008 journal entries about Little Brother and parenting, and he released a fantastic audiobook (MP3) of my story Return to Pleasure Island from my first short story collection, A Place So Foreign and Eight More.

This week for my podcast, I’m doing a swap with Wil Wheaton and his podcast! he’s gonna read one of my short stories, and I’m reading a couple of his public journal entries about the role my novel Little Brother played in helping him parent his son Nolan (MP3). It’s a lovely memory and a... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/04/13/podcast-swap-wil-wheaton-on-little-brother/" class="more-link" title="Read Podcast swap: Wil Wheaton on Little Brother">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

My latest podcast (MP3) is a reading of my 2017 Locus column “The Jubilee: Fill Your Boots ,” about the nature of material scarcity, which is a subject of enormous significance at this moment as production has ground to a halt, and in which the use of the internet to coordinate our activity is at... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/04/05/the-jubilee-fill-your-boots/" class="more-link" title="Read The Jubilee: Fill Your Boots">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

My latest podcast (MP3) is a reading of the author’s note from “Attack Surface” — the third Little Brother book, which comes out on Oct 12. I recorded this for the audiobook edition of Attack Suface, which I’ve been recording all last week with Amber Benson and the Cassandra de Cuir from Skyboat Media. If... <a href="https://craphound.com/attacksurface/2020/03/30/authors-note-from-attack-surface/" class="more-link" title="Read Author’s Note from Attack Surface">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

My latest podcast is a reading (MP3) of “Data – the new oil, or potential for a toxic oil spill?” — a column I wrote for Kaspersky in which I argue that data was never “the new oil” – instead, it was always the new toxic waste: “pluripotent, immortal – and impossible to contain.” Data... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/23/data-the-new-oil-or-potential-for-a-toxic-oil-spill/" class="more-link" title="Read Data – the new oil, or potential for a toxic oil spill?">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

This week, I appear on the Cool Tools podcast to discuss my favorite, most indispensible gadgets and services and why I love them. https://kk.org/cooltools/cory-doctorow-science-fiction-author/ My top picks were my Crkt Snap-Lock knife – a one-handed-opening, lightweight, super versatile pocket knife that I carry everywhere. https://www.crkt.com/snap-lock.html I also chose my Chinese OEM underwater MP3 player. I... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/20/my-appearance-on-cool-tools/" class="more-link" title="Read My appearance on Cool Tools">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Back when cruise ships were a thing, I went out on the Writing Excuses Cruise as an instructor with Mary Robinette Kowal and friends. While there, we recorded an episode of the Writing Excuses podcast. In a mere 25 minutes, we pack in a lot of material: how to break into the field, what a... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/16/talking-digital-writing-careers-with-the-writing-excuses-podcast/" class="more-link" title="Read Talking digital writing careers with the Writing Excuses podcast">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

As a followup to my last podcast, which featured the Macmillan audiobook of my novella “The Masque of the Red Death”, this week’s podcast starts with a reading of Poe’s original 1842 story, “The Masque of the Red Death. It’s some next-level gothic stuff. As a chaser, I close this week’s podcast with a reading... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/16/the-masque-of-the-red-death-and-punch-brothers-punch/" class="more-link" title="Read The Masque of the Red Death and Punch Brothers Punch">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Edgar Allen Poe wrote “The Masque of the Red Death” in 1842. It’s about a plutocrat who throws a masked ball in his walled abbey during a plague with the intention of cheating death. My novella “The Masque of the Red Death” is a tribute to Poe; it’s from my book Radicalized. It’s the story... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/13/the-masque-of-the-red-death/" class="more-link" title="Read The Masque of the Red Death">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

In this special Covid-19 edition of my podcast, I revisit my end-of-the-world short story When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth, originally published in Baen’s Universe in 2005. Hundreds of people have emailed and tweeted me about this story this week, so I thought it was long overdue that I revisited it (I last read it into... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/13/when-sysadmins-ruled-the-earth-2/" class="more-link" title="Read When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

For my latest podcast, I read my latest Locus op-ed, A Lever Without a Fulcrum Is Just a Stick, which analyzes why giving creators more copyright hasn’t made them richer, and proposes other kinds of authors’ rights that would translate into real money for real creators. The fact that the company can’t reproduce your book... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/11/a-lever-without-a-fulcrum-is-just-a-stick-2/" class="more-link" title="Read A Lever Without a Fulcrum Is Just a Stick">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

Last night I sat down for an interview and lively Q&A at the Kelowna Public Library with the CBC’s Sarah Penton as part of the Canada Reads national book prize, for which my book Radicalized is a finalist. Courtney Dickson was kind enough to send me raw audio from the board and to give me... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/06/audio-from-the-kelowna-canada-reads-event-with-sarah-penton/" class="more-link" title="Read Audio from the Kelowna Canada Reads event with Sarah Penton">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

A couple of weeks ago, I posted Part I of my interview with the Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons podcast, a podcast that covers computer security in a way that is accessible to nontechnical people. Carey Parker has posted part II (MP3) of the interview, where we dig into Right to Repair, Adversarial Interoperability, and monopoly... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/02/interview-with-the-firewalls-dont-stop-dragons-podcast-part-ii/" class="more-link" title="Read Interview with the Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons podcast (Part II)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

For my latest podcast, I read my 2017 Wired op-ed, Disasters Don’t Have to End in Dystopias, a discussion of the themes in my novel Walkaway. The thesis is that our estimations of probability of danger are unduly influenced by our ability to vividly imagine that danger (this is called the “availability heuristic”), so stories... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/03/01/disasters-dont-have-to-end-in-dystopias/" class="more-link" title="Read Disasters Don’t Have to End in Dystopias">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

For my latest podcast, I read my latest EFF Deeplinks post, Gopher: When Adversarial Interoperability Burrowed Under the Gatekeepers’ Fortresses. It’s the latest installment in my case histories of “adversarial interoperability” — once the main force that kept tech competitive. Today, I tell the story of Gopher, the web’s immediate predecessor, which burrowed under the... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/02/24/gopher-when-adversarial-interoperability-burrowed-under-the-gatekeepers-fortresses/" class="more-link" title="Read Gopher: When Adversarial Interoperability Burrowed Under the Gatekeepers’ Fortresses">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>

It’s been a few years since I last sat down with Carey Parker and his Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons podcast, and last week I corrected that oversight, recording a long interview about the Right to Repair, Adversarial Interoperability, and Sonos’s e-waste gambit. Part I is up now (MP3), and part II will be up in... <a href="https://craphound.com/podcast/2020/02/18/talking-adversarial-interoperability-with-the-firewalls-dont-stop-dragons-podcast-part-i/" class="more-link" title="Read Talking Adversarial Interoperability with the Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons podcast (Part I)">more <i class="fa fa-chevron-right"></i></a>