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Show Notes
Derek talks to The Atlantic’s Anne Applebaum about Zelensky’s global appeal, the roots of Putin's lust for empire, and Ukraine’s prospects for victory.
Host: Derek Thompson
Guest: Anne Applebaum
Producer: Devon Manze
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