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Ep 65Netflix Golden Globe noms, bipartisan agreement on encryption, and Amazon's plan for fashion
Kara and Scott talk about Congress' hearing on regulating end-to-end encryption on messaging apps. They discussJack Dorsey's tweet storm about building a small internal open source team. We get updates on leadership at Away. In Friend of Pivot, we hear from legendary fashion and media icon Joanna Coles on what Amazon wants out of the fashion industry. Scott's win is the Silicon Valley finale. Kara's fail are people like AG Bill Barr who continue to protect Trump. In predictions, Scott thinks we'll be talking about the effect internet porn has on developing minds. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 64A letter to Twitter, Uber's data transparency, and Away proves startup culture is rough
Kara and Scott talk about a letter Scott wrote to the board about concerns at Twitter. They discuss Uber's data report on sexual assault that occurred in their rides. In fails, Kara and Scott get into a new story about the brutal culture at Away. Aviation gin's "sequel" to the Peloton ad is everybody's win! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 63CEO’s are out (literally), France's "digital service tax” is in, and 'innovator privilege’
Kara and Scott talk about leaderships shifts at Google -- Larry and Sergey are out and Sundar Pichai is in. In Friend of Pivot we hear from French lawyer, Dan Shefet about France's newly approved "digital service tax". Also, Pelosi announced that Section 230 won't carry over into trade deals with Mexico and Canada. Kamala Harris is the winner this week -- she may not be president in 2020, but Scott's predicting she'll be someone's VEEP. In fails Scott rants about Elon Musk and his defense of a defamation case in which he called someone a "pedo guy". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 63Dorsey moves to Africa and streaming platforms trump movie theaters
Welcome to Pivot 2x! Our first twice weekly episode. Kara and Scott talk about the future of Twitter as Jack Dorsey announces he's off to live in Africa. They discuss the streaming wars and how movies fared on on platform versus in movie theaters. In listener mail they talk about the failures of logistics companies (specifically FedEx). Prediction: Twitter loses value next year and an activist investor steps in. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 62London gives Uber the boot, the billionaire's 2020 strategy, and streaming wars continue
Kara and Scott talk about Uber getting kicked out of its biggest EU market, London. They parse out the ad, media and digital strategy of Michael Bloomberg in his quest for the White House. In Friend of Pivot, Kara and Scott have different takes on Google's recent firings of 4 employee labor organizers. In wins, Pivot welcomes Sacha Baron Cohen to the resistance for his speech about regulating social media platforms. Kara thinks Mark Zuckerberg failed this year in his "personal challenge" to have a series of public conversations about the future of tech -- of the 9 people he interviewed, 8 were men and they were all white. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 61Trump lies about Apple, HBOMax fumbles its brand, Juul gets sued
Kara and Scott talk about how Apple CEO Tim Cook, let Trump get away with lying about being responsible for building a 2013 factory. They also talk about how a Facebook executive says the company wants the government to regulate political ads. Also, Scott thinks HBO Max is making a big mistake by diluting its brand and bundling non-prestige television. Friend of Pivot, Arielle Duhaime-Ross, the host of Reset comes on the show to ask Kara and Scott about "sharenting" and how they decide to share pictures of their kids. (You can hear the full episode on 11/26). Kara has strong feelings about Juul. The e-cigarette company is getting sued by California and New York for allegedly marketing their tobacco products to teens. Scott's win is Ambassador Marie Yavonavitch. While Kara's win is COTY buying Kylie Jenner's cosmetics company for $600-million. In predictions Scott says get used to hearing more about Roku in 2020. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 60Big Tech wants to be your wallet and your healthcare provider. What could go wrong?
Kara and Scott talk about all the Silicon Valley companies rolling out credit cards and checking accounts. Google is also partnering with a Catholic non-profit that has clinics and hospitals around the country. In that new project called 'Nightingale', Google will collect patient data in its cloud computing and use AI to give treatment recommendations. We're skeptical. In Listener Mail, Kara and Scott ask a question about the rivalry between Ali Baba and Amazon, as Ali Baba makes a secondary offering on the Hong Kong exchange.Dara Khosrowshahi, the CEO of Uber, are both Kara and Scott's fail this week. He likened Saudi Arabia's murder of Jamaal Kashoggi to mistakes made with self-driving cars. Win is Disney+ (Scott's obsessed with the 'Mandalorian'). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 59Twitter and the Saudis, Facebook’s 'Switcharoo', and the 2020 digital ads race
Kara and Scott talk about former Twitter employees who were spying on user data for Saudi Arabia. They also talk about a big leak of internal Facebook emails that further shows Facebook's conniving use of data. A year out from the 2020 election, a new progressive PAC is trying to beat Donald Trump in the digital ad space. Kara and Scott agree it's a drop in the bucket. Scott bids a farewell to his presidential hopeful and "dreamy man crush" Beto. Kara's win is Airbnb's transparent handling of a few recent incidents. Meanwhile, in fails, SAT-takers names and data are being sold to elite universities ... so those schools can have a higher rejection rate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 58Twitter will stop running political ads ... your move, Facebook
Kara and Scott celebrate Jack Dorsey announcing that Twitter will not be running political ads anymore. That puts Facebook on the spot. They talk about Kara's interview with Edward Snowden on her other podcast Recode Decode. In streaming wars news, HBOMax is joining and sweeping up all the content. How will net neutrality affect the streaming wars? In listener mail, we dig into a new bill introduced in Congress that would force big social media platforms to loosen their hold on user data. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 63The screw-up-billionaire, quantum computers, and the skewering of Zuckerberg
Kara and Scott take a victory lap as SoftBank buys out Adam Neumann, the founder of weWork for a cool $1.7 billion. They talk about what the future might hold, now that Google has unveiled its quantum computer. Tesla proved Scott wrong and came out with some really big earnings this week. We also hear from Senior Recode reporter, Peter Kafka about what to expect from the streaming wars as Apple debuts its own platform. Winners are the women of Congress, who absolutely skewered Mark Zuckerberg in a Congressional hearing. Here is more information on Peter Kafka's Code Media Conference! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 57Mark Zuckerberg the free speech jester, and Marc Benioff the class traitor
bonusKara and Scott met up at Stanford University (where they were both rejected from) for a live Pivot! They talk about the decline of applicants to elite M.B.A. programs, free speech in China and how Zuckerberg says he thinks free speech functions at Facebook. They get into Amazon's foray into the healthcare sector. They take questions from the audience on the Canadian elections, weWork and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ep 56LIVE at the Podcast Upfronts in NYC!
Kara and Scott meet up at the Podcast Upfronts in NYC. And we make a special announcement...wait for it... WE'RE GOING TO 2 DAYS A WEEK! BOOM! They also talk about the likelihood that weWork has layoffs and declares bankruptcy. They talk about Bill Gates' ties to Jeffrey Epstein, Win: Elizabeth Warren intentionally submitted a Facebook political ad with false information on it to show the platform's failures. Fail: the crumbling of Facebook's cryptocurrency, Libra. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 55Going after venture capital culture and the unicorn industrial complex
Kara and Scott talk about feuds with VC's, billionaires paying fewer taxes than the working class and tech companies folding to Chinese state media pressure. They take a listener mail question about Sidewalk Labs and the right way to make smart cities. They're concerned with the Turkish president's use of Twitter to announce an invasion of Syria. A win is Andrew Yang's $10-million boost in Q3. And Kara comes with her own prediction this week, that Michael Bloomberg is going to jump into the presidential race. (Also a big warm welcome to the Pivot team's newest favorite member, Kara's baby, Clara Jo!!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ep 54Mark Zuckerberg’s leaky staff and the silver lining to WeWork’s downfall
Someone inside Facebook secretly recorded Mark Zuckerberg for two hours and sent the audio to The Verge’s Casey Newton; Kara interviews Casey about his scoop and gets Scott’s take on Zuckerberg’s apparent fear of President Elizabeth Warren. They also talk about why WeWork CEO Adam Neumann may have to go into the Unicorn Protection Program and why the company’s canceled IPO is a victory for the public markets. Plus: Kara dares Twitter to take responsibility for President Trump’s Tweets, and The Big Dog adopts a puppy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 53LIVE from Toronto, Kara and Scott go international!
Kara and Scott are live at the Elevate in Toronto -- Pivot's first international appearance! They talk about the continued implosion at weWork and CEO Adam Neumann stepping down. They ask -- have we reached peak "founder"? Wins are whistleblowers and Phoebe Waller-Bridge who is helping Amazon outpace Netflix in streaming content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ep 55Uber is 'disruptive and drunk', weWork is 'just drunk', and Pivot turns 1!
Happy 1st anniversary to Pivot! Kara and Scott talk about weWork's halted IPO (we'll take partial credit). They talk about Amazon manipulating its algorithm to present more of its own products in search. Facebook is making its own "Supreme Court", is it just a band-aid? Should Kara Swisher be one of the Justices? (Yes). Fail: Trudeau -- and the (STILL) Governor of Virginia -- wearing black face. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 51'I love Amazon. Let's break it up'
bonusScott joins Land of the Giants host, Jason Del Rey, live on stage at the Code Commerce conference in New York City. Scott tells Jason that Amazon needs to be broken up - and which parts of the company should be spun off first. They discuss Amazon’s ultimate impact on us as consumers, who are the companies left that can really compete with Amazon, and question the idea that we live in an era of innovation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 51LIVE! From the Lesbians Who Tech Summit
Kara and Scott talk at the annual Lesbians Who Tech Summit in New York City. Scott is dubbed a #LezBro. They discuss 48 state AG's putting forth an antitrust probe into Google. They love it. Kara comes with her new augmented reality glasses -- she thinks they're the future, Scott disagrees. WeWork's biggest investor encouraged them not to go forward with their IPO -- it's either because Pivot has gone so hard after them or because their S-1 is utter nonsense. Kara's win is Chrissy Teigen taking on Trump on Twitter. Scott's win is California's new law protecting gig workers. And they answer audience questions about how tech can be a better place for the LGBTQ community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ep 52Is Uber super f*cked? Let’s ask “Super Pumped” author Mike Isaac
Kara and Scott bring on NYTimes reporter, Mike Isaac, to talk about his new book "Super Pumped: the Battle for Uber". They pick his brain about all the Silicon Valley drama around the ride-share company. Scott's win is Walmart for taking action in the gun-control debate. Mike comes prepared with his own fail and calls out Twitter for the hacking of Jack Dorsey's account. Scott is predicting that weWork doesn't ever actually go public. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 49Peloton “sells happiness” and bedbugs take over Twitter
Kara and Scott talk Peloton's S-1 ... is it the WeWork of exercise or an innovation in happiness? They also talk about Facebook's newest attempt to undercut Snapchat. Kara's fail is journalists who can't take a joke. And for the first time ... Pivot is taking listener mail! This week, Scott gets pushback from a listener in Minnesota on his Tesla views. PLUS: we get the inside scoop on how Scott comes up with his predictions (spoiler: it's more than shaking a Magic-8 ball). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 48DoorDash is still stealing tips. And is Tesla for sale?
Kara and Scott are back in the studio to talk about Trump bringing foreign policy to Twitter, state AG's taking on big tech and Tesla possibly being bought by Volkswagen (what a world!) Meanwhile, Scott's planning to buy Uzbekistan. Kara and Scott both think DoorDash taking tip money from its delivery people is a fail -- DoorDash, Pivot is watching you. And you heard it here first, Scott's big prediction this week is that Spotify will roll out hardware in the future. Warning: there are expletives used in this podcast ... per usual. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 47LIVE! From NYC it's Kara and Scott
bonusKara and Scott meet up in New York City for an extra, unfiltered Pivot in front of a live audience. They recap some of the news already happening this week like "The Business Roundtable" redefining their mission statement to include stakeholders. Kara and Scott revisit some of the wins and fails of the the first half of 2019. And they take on burning questions from the audience. WARNING: this episode contains more expletives than usual. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 47Sharks, WeWork & Tumblr's tumble from grace
Kara and Scott take on sharks, summer in New England, WeWork's IPO and Tumblr's fall. They also talk about how trade-wars with China are slowing down tech. Scott had a win this week when Nike added a "rundle" subscription service. Scott also gives a win shoutout to Harvard professor Raj Chetty for his research on how class and race function in US society. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 46Hate on 8chan and why Scott's not quitting Equinox
Kara and Scott talk about Cloudfare dropping 8chan after its latest link to domestic terrorism and hate speech. They also talk about SoulCycle and Equinox's links to the Trump campaign. Kara's ready to dump SoulCycle, but Scott's holding out on Equinox. They also talk about Facebook rebranding WhatsApp and Instagram. Scott's getting Apple's new titanium card (apparently it could kill a person). And in predictions Scott thinks the TheRealReal's stock is about to get real. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 45Facebook wants to read your mind. What could possibly go wrong?
Kara and Scott talk about the debates and how questions about big tech...well, didn't really come up. They also talk about Amazon and Apple earnings and how "wearables" are having a moment. In wins we have FOIA and transparency around tech companies and how they interact with ICE. And in predictions, Scott says stop trying to make fake bacon happen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 44The Mueller hearing, Facebook's fine, and revisiting The Case of Al Franken
This week, your hosts Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway revisit the democratic presidential nominee race, and talk about the Mueller hearing. In wins and fails, they talk about revisiting controversies like Al Franken's. In predictions, they take a short trip down memory lane as they go over some of Scott's recent predictions-come-true. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 43Peter Thiel is Pennywise, Trump's racist tweets, and Kara meets the Yang Gang
This week, Scott wants to scoop on all of Kara's interviews with presidential candidates. Then, Scott and Kara chat Facebook's measly $5 billion fine and Disney's massive staying power. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 43Epstein's Out, Rapinoe's In, Plus a Social Media-Less Summit
This week Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway are together in D.C.; we repeat: they are together in D.C.! They chat Jeffrey Epstein and double jeopardy, President Trump's social media summit (where no major social media networks were invited?), and whether or not start up culture is dead. The pair also celebrate Megan Rapinoe and the U.S. Navy, and they contemplate what Kara should ask Pete Buttigieg about. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 42Fish and Chips and Biden and Harris and Reddit and Twitter
This week, Kara calls in from London! In addition to their excitement for the Women's World Cup, Scott and Kara talk about Zuckerberg's Aspen interview, the Democratic primary debates, and Twitter's decision to label politicians’ tweets that violates its terms of service. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 41TikTok, Time's Up on Facebook's Content Moderation Sites
When Scott Galloway is away, Kara Swisher will play... with The Verge's Casey Newton! This week, Kara and Casey get down and dirty about Bodies in Seats, Casey's exposé on the terrible conditions inside Facebook's North American content moderation sites. In predictions, Casey explores what the teens are playing with these days (#TikTok), and whether or not Chinese sanctions will make sure it doesn't last. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 40Facebook's New Money and Slack's New Valuation
This week, Kara is in New York! And Scott's in... France? So close yet so far as usual, our hosts chat about Facebook's venture into cryptocurrency, Tim Cook's Stanford commencement speech, and YouTube for kids. In wins and fails, looks like Slack is killing it, and a stressed out Sheryl Sandberg is decidedly not. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 39Pivot LIVE! From the 2019 Code Conference
This week's Pivot is live from the Code Conference in Arizona. Kara and Scott talk regulations for the tech industry and why we need more female CEOs so we don't feel bad about firing the bad ones. Also, our hosts review some of their old predictions and see just how spot on they were about Lyft, Snap, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 38The FTC and DOJ are Stayin' Alive, and YouTube backtracks on bigotry
This week, Kara and Scott talk breaking down the big boys (Facebook, Google, etc) and YouTube kicking out the bad boys ("free speech" haters). Wins and fails this week include the revival of the FTC and DOJ, and some Bernie Sanders grandstanding. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ep 37Deepfake takedowns, white supremacy on Twitter, and the companies boycotting anti-abortion states
Pivot takes up the internet-age-old question of Facebook's responsibilities as a media company. And, should businesses be boycotting states that are passing harsh anti-abortion laws? Also, Kara and Scott discover that both their dads were in the Navy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 36Medium's "Shampoo Effect," and Tesla, coming undone?
The hosts opine on Medium, L'Oreal, and Quora. Scott critiques WeWork's EBITDA reporting, as well as the final GoT plot. Kara's back from Canada and her interview with Ev Williams, and now gearing up for the Code conference in Arizona. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 35Alabama's big fail, Uber's disastrous IPO, and the Facebook breakup debate
Recode's Kara Swisher and NYU's Scott Galloway discuss Chris Hughes' Facebook breakup proposal, Away Travel's big funding, how southern states are trying to ban abortion and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ep 34Chris Hughes' Case Against Facebook, Strikes on IPO Week, GoT vs Avengers
"Union Scott" shows up to discuss the work stoppages at Uber and Lyft. Kara asks whether tech money for candidates is tainted. And the hosts analyze Game of Thrones (Facebook edition). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 33Facebook's privacy fakeout, WeWork's reckless IPO, and Reagan the welfare queen
Kara and Scott discuss Facebook's new focus on privacy; what comes after the Web 3.0 era; and what Oprah has to say about Scott's new book. Enjoy more of Kara and Scott on Recode Decode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or in your favorite podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ep 32The FTC & the "Algebra of Deterrence"
Kara and Scott talk about the FTC's fine on Facebook -- it's basically a "parking ticket". They also talk about the bombings in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday and their social media ban. In wins and fails they talk about the shake-ups at The MarkUp, the Tesla board and Scott's love big Broadway musicals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ep 31Uber's IPO and, more importantly, Game of Thrones
Kara and Scott talk about Disney breaking into the content streaming business, the Uber IPO and, yes, Game of Thrones. Facebook actually gets a win this week for bringing on their first African American woman as a board member (but will she hold Zuckerberg to account?). YouTube very failed at getting accurate information on the burning of the Notre Dame cathedral. Prediction: the unicorn-class is the big loser of this year... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 30Mr. Zuckerberg goes to Washington ... again
Kara and Scott talk about Congressional hearings on tech platforms responsibility for spreading white nationalism and other hate speech. New Zealand, Australia and the EU are so far ahead of the US in regulations ... when will we catch up? They also discuss the Pinterest IPO and AirBnB reversing their decision to pull out of the West Bank. MacKenzie Bezos becoming the 3rd richest woman in the world is a win. And Scott has some predictions for 2020. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 29"It's not a meritocracy, it's a mirror-tocracy"
Kara and Scott talk about the avalanche of recent Facebook news -- including Zuckerberg's new professed want for regulations. They also talk about YouTube and how the company actively seems to be overlooking all the toxic things that end up on the platform. We reached out to Managing Editor of AfroTech, John Ketchum, to talk about the late-Nipsey Hussle's contributions to tech and entrepreneurship as a way to uplift his community. It's part of a broader trend of affluent black celebrities putting their money into tech entrepreneurship. Speaking of rap/entrepreneurship (eye-roll implied), Elon Musk dropped a rap about Harambe on SoundCloud. Meanwhile, Patagonia is refusing to sell tech-bros vests and we are here for it. And finally, Scott revisits predictions about Lyft and Amazon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 28Will the rising tide of ride sharing Lyft all boats?
Scott and Kara are skeptical of Lyft's IPO. What exactly is the network effect of ride shares? Also, Facebook says it's banning white nationalist posts. Cool, it's about time. Will anyone follow? Scott and Kara also talk about what Apple TV even is, the EU hitting Google with more antitrust fines and AOC continuing to win the heart of the internet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 27Does social media cause terrorism?
Kara and Scott talk about terrorism against the Muslim community in New Zealand and how social media may be exacerbating this type of violence. They talk about admissions scandal and how colleges are harming the middle class with their exclusivity. Of course, Scott shouts out his man-crush Beto. His prediction is a white man becomes the 2020 Democratic nominee for president. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 26LIVE! From SXSW it's Kara and Scott
EKara and Scott are live in Austin, Texas for SXSW. They talk antitrust, the breakdown of big tech and take audience questions and predictions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 25Facebook says it’s all about privacy now. OK, sure.
Kara and Scott are back! They talk about Zuckerberg's supposed shift towards more privacy on Facebook and, well, we'll believe it when we see it. Meanwhile Congress is ramping up its efforts on shaking up how we think of antitrust and big tech companies. They get into what they expect to talk and hear about at South by Southwest this week. If you're looking to learn more about all things Facebook check out our friend Casey Newton's newsletter The Interface. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 24News flash: Facebook’s contractors are people
Kara brings on her former co-host, Wired senior staff writer and Gadget Lab co-host, Lauren Goode. They talk about the moderating content on Facebook -- and the working conditions of the people who are tasked with looking at the gruesome videos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 23DC is old news. “The universe revolves around Silicon Valley”
Kara brings on co-host, legendary NYTimes journalist, Maureen Dowd. They talk about how Silicon Valley has eclipsed Washington, DC as the country's true seat of power. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 22Hot Take: Amazon HQ2 breaks up with NYC
bonusKara and Scott pop back into the studio to give their hot takes on Amazon pulling out of their HQ2 deal with New York City. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 22Is this the year big tech gets regulated? (Probably not.)
Scott blusters in from his breakfast with Congress on how to regulate big tech — so Kara and Scott get into whether Congress will ever be regulating tech (seems not so likely). Kara sums up her twitter showdown with Jack Dorsey. Also more shade thrown on media outlets doing a bad job — like Esquire Magazine featuring a cover story about being a white boy in America and more generally Tucker Carlson, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices