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Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky prides himself on thinking very differently than other CEOs, and his answers to the Decoder questions about how he structures and manages his company were almost always the opposite of what I’m used to hearing on the show. Airbnb is pretty much a single team, focused on a single product, and it all rolls up to Brian. That’s very different from most other big companies, which have lots of divisions and overlapping lines of authority. And Airbnb’s relationship to cities is changing as tourism changes. Airbnb used to be the poster child for a tech company that showed up without permission and fought with regulators, but as the company has grown and the pandemic has changed things, it’s entered what is hopefully a more mature phase — it just came to a deal with New York City after ten years of argument. I asked Brian about that and about what it’s like to run a public company now — the transition from scrappy startup to public company engaged with regulators is a big one. Of course, I also had to ask about cryptocurrency and the metaverse — does Brian think we’re all going to be visiting virtual NFT museums on vacations in the future? You have to listen and find out. Okay, Brian Chesky, CEO of Airbnb, here we go. Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/22547463 Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, and Andrew Marino, our research was done by Liz Lian. And we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode takes a look back at 12 months of the most aspirational friendship in podcasting. Kara and Scott review a year's worth of hot takes, bold ideas, jealous fits, civil disagreements, and heartwarming family vacations. Come for the memories, stay for the triggers! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode, Kara and Scott dedicate a full show to the questions you've sent in! They answer questions on responsible gambling, the future of transportation, green energy investments, and more. They also reveal their favorite interviews over the past year, as well as their New Year's resolutions for 2022. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara, Scott and a handful of Friends of Pivot make some predictions about what 2022 has in store for the Metaverse, China, Apple and more. In this episode, we hear predictions from Co-Anchor of CNBC’s Squawk Box Andrew Ross Sorkin, LightShed Partners’ Rich Greenfield, Senator Amy Klobuchar, author Cory Doctorow, WSJ Senior Personal Technology Columnist Joanna Stern, NBC News Senior Business correspondent Stephanie Ruhle, NYU Professor Aswath Damodaran, author Sheera Frenkel, and actor George Hahn. Send us your Listener Mail questions through our site, nymag.com/pivot and use Yappa to leave a video or audio message. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss a massive Amazon Web Services outage, Trump Media's new CEO, and Tim Cook’s Chinese diplomacy. Also, what BuzzFeed's stock launch means for the rest of us. Plus, a prediction on who will acquire Twitter. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss Twitter’s split into three divisions, Spotify’s royalty dispute with comedians, and the charges against parents of the Michigan school shooting suspect. Also, CNN’s messy Cuomo breakup, and Donald Trump’s media group says it’s raised $1 billion. Plus, Friends of Pivot Charlie Warzel and Anne Helen Peterson on their new book, “OUT OF OFFICE: The Big Problem and Bigger Promise of Working from Home.” You can find Charlie and Anne on Twitter at @cwarzel and @annehelen. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss Twitter’s new anti-harassment policy, Chris Cuomo’s indefinite suspension from CNN, and Stacey Abrams running for Governor in Georgia. Also, UK’s Competition Watchdog tells Meta to sell off GIPHY. CEOs and insiders have sold off a record number of stocks in 2021. Plus, Scott gives us some predictions on SpaceX and Twitter. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss the new COVID-19 variant, Omicron, Jack Dorsey's Twitter exit, and Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri's upcoming congressional testimony. Also, a bidding war for an original U.S. Constitution, and the pressure on ride-sharing giant Didi to delist from the NY Stock Exchange. Plus, Friend of Pivot, and author of the book “Woke Racism,” John McWhorter. You can find John on Twitter at @JohnHMcWhorter. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss Amazon reportedly leaving customer data exposed inside the company, Build Back Better passing the House, and Apple’s back-to-the-office plan. Plus, Elizabeth Holmes testifies in her own trial. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara is back with Scott to discuss Peloton's new stock offering, the Miramax versus Tarantino battle over Pulp Fiction NFTs, and alarming updates in Activision's sexual misconduct allegations. Plus, Netflix reveals its most popular content and an iconic arena gets a crypto name change. Plus, Scott gives us a prediction on the Metaverse. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara is out welcoming the newest member of the Pivot family! Scott is joined by co-host Stephanie Ruhle to talk about The Great Resignation, inflation, J&J’s split, and Steve Bannon’s indictment. Also, Elon is still bullying senators on Twitter, and Beto is officially running for Governor of Texas. Plus, Scott chats with Friend of Pivot, Founder and CEO of Boom Supersonic, Blake Scholl about supersonic air travel. You can find Blake on Twitter at @bscholl, and Boom Supersonic at @boomaero. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss GE’s plans to split into three companies, Facebook’s decision to disable ad targeting based on sensitive categories, and the Twitter Blue rollout. Also, a data breach at Robinhood, and Adam Neumann’s return. And Scott gives us a prediction on M&As in 2022. Plus, Friend of Pivot Jonathan Haidt on social media’s mental health effects. You can find Jonathan on Twitter at @JonHaidt and can find more of his research at thecoddling.com/better-social-media. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss the Bipartisan Infrastructure bill, Pfizer’s new COVID-19 pill, and Scott’s Twitter feud with Elon Musk. Big Bird and Aaron Rogers take heat for their vaccination statuses. Plus, Friend of Pivot Mark Mahaney on his new book, Nothing But Net. You can find Mark on Twitter at @markmahaney. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott unpack Tuesday’s election results, dive into the confusion around the Tesla and Hertz deal, and examine Zillow quitting the home-buying business. Also, cryptocurrency Squid crashes and the Facebook app is ditching facial recognition. Plus, Scott gives us a prediction for Build Back Better. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott talk about Facebook’s rebrand, Biden’s big week at COP 26, the spending bill drama at home, and the CEO who actually asked for a pay cut. Plus, Friend of Pivot Aswath Damodaran on taxing billionaires, the future of SPACs, markets, meme stocks, and more. You can find Aswath at @AswathDamodaran. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss the latest on Sen. Ron Wyden’s proposed billionaire tax, Big Tech’s Q3 results coming in strong, and testimony from YouTube, Snap, and TikTok. Also, Tesla is now worth a trillion, and what Kara’s Twitter followers wanted Facebook’s new name to be, revealed. Plus, Scott’s predicts Time's 2021 Person of the Year. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Land of the Giants: The Apple Revolution, Recode’s Peter Kafka explores the company that changed what a computer is — and then changed what a phone is. From its beginnings as a niche personal computer company, Apple became the preeminent maker of consumer tech products, a cultural trendsetter, and the most valuable company in the world. And along the way, it changed the way we live. New episodes come out on Wednesdays. Listen at the link below or subscribe wherever you find great podcasts. https://www.vox.com/land-of-the-giants-podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss Amazon’s leave system short-changing workers, the impacts of Apple’s privacy changes on Big Tech, and PayPal saying it won’t acquire Pinterest. Also, the Facebook headlines keep coming. Plus, Friend of Pivot Pamela Paul on “100 Things We’ve Lost to the Internet.” You can find Pamela on Twitter at @PamelaPaulNYT. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott are (virtually) live from Advertising Week! They discuss Facebook changing its name, Netflix’s Q3 numbers and Trump launching a social network. And they tell us how they feel about the latest vaccine mandate pushbacks from In-N-Out Burger and radio host Dan Bongino. Also, some predictions around Shopify and Square. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara speaks with Endeavor's Ari Emanuel about entertainment lawsuits, UFC, movie theaters, and more. Recorded live at Code Conference 2021. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss the latest bad news for teens on social media, LinkedIn shutting down in China, and Harvard’s endowment. They also talk about Hollywood’s narrowly avoided strike, and the planned walkouts at Netflix. Plus, Friend of Pivot Christopher Mims on how the global supply chain problems will affect our lives. You can find Christopher on social media at @mims. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss Facebook’s blacklist of dangerous users, Apple cutting iPhone production due to the global chip shortage, and how Texas-based airlines are responding to Gov. Greg Abbot’s anti-vaccine mandate. Also, their thoughts on the controversy around Dave Chapelle's Netflix special. Plus, Kara reveals some fascinating details from her high school years. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella joins Kara for a discussion on ransomware, remote work, and dealing with the Trump administration. Recorded live at Code 2021. This interview was been lightly edited for runtime and clarity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss Southwest’s flight cancellations, Rent The Runway's IPO filing, and Nick Clegg’s non-apology tour. Also, Ireland wants American companies to pay more in taxes and Tesla is moving to Texas. Plus, Friend of Pivot Eli Saslow on his new book, Voices From The Pandemic: Americans Tell Their Stories of Crisis, Courage, and Resilience. You can find Eli on Twitter at @elisaslow. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Stephanie Ruhle sit down with Salesforce CEO, Marc Benioff. Recorded live at Code 2021 in Los Angeles. This interview has been condensed and lightly edited. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pivot is back with its Quarterly Review series, taking a look back at Q3 and predicting what’s to come. Kara and Scott discuss the biggest wins and fails of the past quarter and check their prediction track records. They also get some predictions from from Friends of Pivot, including Preet Bharara, Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, author Sheera Frenkel and Cofounder of Zero100, Kevin O’Marah. Plus, Friend of Pivot Amy Klobuchar joins to discuss the Frances Haugen testimony and what’s next for Facebook. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara sits down with SpaceX CEO/Tesla Technoking Elon Musk for a discussion on China, rockets, Mars colonization, and more. Recorded live at Code 2021 in Los Angeles. This interview has been condensed and lightly edited. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott talk about the Facebook whistleblower’s debut, the release of the “Pandora Papers,” and Ozy Media’s demise. They also discuss the U.S. passing yet another grim milestone in the COVID-19 pandemic, and their reaction to Alex Jones losing two defamation lawsuits. Plus, Friend of Pivot Andrea Elliott on her book, Invisible Child: Poverty, Survival and Hope in an American City. You can find Andrea on Twitter at @andreafelliott. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss the biggest moments from the Code conference, including Kara’s Elon interview that sparked a Musk vs. Bezos rumble. Also: the latest with Robinhood, Citadel and #KenGriffinLied, and a big announcement from The Dawg. Plus, a prediction around fitness and health apps. Keep an eye on the Pivot feed for bonus episodes: full interviews from Code! Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Code has begun! Scott helps Kara prep for her conversations with Elon Musk, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, Netflix Co-CEO Ted Sarandos, and many more. Plus, Facebook puts Instagram for Kids on pause, and what are the implications of China's crypto ban? Then, Friend of Pivot, Chairman and CEO of Vox Media, Jim Bankoff. Stay tuned to the Pivot feed to hear full interviews from Code! You can find Jim on Twitter at @bankoff. Tell him how much you love the Pivot team. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Facebook wants to push pro-Facebook material in News Feed. Also, Kara and Scott dive into Google's big bet on back-to-office, and Apple's plan to diagnose depression with iPhone data. Friend of Pivot Craig Silverman discusses his latest reporting on the problems with Facebook Marketplace. Plus, Scott gives us a dire prediction on Facebook's legal woes. You can find Craig on Twitter at @CraigSilverman. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott unpack Russia's fight with Big Tech, Facebook's disappointing response to the Wall Street Journal’s revealing series, and how streaming swept the Emmys. Also, Kara has a big announcement. (Hint: She confirms that Scott is NOT the father). Plus, Friend of Pivot Max Chafkin on Peter Thiel and his new book, The Contrarian. You can find Max on Twitter at @chafkin. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott talk about the newest revelation in the Wall Street Journal’s Facebook Files series, Amazon raising their starting wages, and what we’ve learned from the California Recall Election. And Kara reminds us all to update our Apple devices. Plus, Scott gives a prediction on the SPAC market. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott talk about a new report on Facebook’s special rules for their internal list of VIP users, how the Epic v. Apple lawsuit played out, and the House Democrats’ push for a new FTC Privacy Bureau. Also, Facebook stole Ray Bans from Kara. Plus, Friend of Pivot Brian Derrick helps us process the California Recall election and gives some predictions on 2024. You can find Brian on Instagram at @BrianDerrick_ Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Scott has returned! He and Kara talk about The Justice Department’s ad tech suit against Google, the SEC-Coinbase spat, a record year for IPOs, and El Salvador’s Bitcoin buy. And it wouldn’t be an episode with Scott without some predictions - he tells us which start-ups are about to get some major attention. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest host George Hahn joins Kara to talk about the Texas abortion ban and Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s threats to tech companies over the Jan. 6 riot inquiry. Plus, why are there so many viral videos of anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers spinning out? Then, a surprise listener question catches both hosts off guard. And finally, George tries to figure out why he keeps getting being banned from TikTok, and gives an update on his bid to co-host The View. You can follow George on Twitter at @georgehahn, and check out more of his work at georgehahn.com. Send us your Listener Mail questions, via Yappa, at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest host Katie Couric joins Kara to discuss the withdrawal from Afghanistan and lessons learned, possible outcomes of the California recall, and of course, Jeopardy! Plus, Friend of Pivot Nathan Allebach joins to talk about how he turned Steak-umm’s Twitter account into a truth bomb machine. Check out the latest from Katie Couric at katiecouric.com, or on social media at @katiecouric. You can also subscribe to her daily newsletter, Wake-Up Call, here. AND you can pre-order her book, Going There, here. Nathan Allebach covers internet culture, advertising, and media literacy discourse at nathanallebach.medium.com and on social at @nathanallebach. And of course, check out some of his best-known work on Twitter at @steak_umm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest co-host Andrew Ross Sorkin joins Kara to discuss TikTok's e-commerce play with Shopify, Airbnb's announcement to house 20,000 Afghan refugees, and how more businesses are going to start requiring COVID-19 vaccination proof. Kara and Andrew also discuss OnlyFan's decision to reverse course on its plan to ban sexually explicit content, and then break down Cathy Wood’s popularity with high-risk investors. Plus, a question on the future of healthtech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest host Dr. Jeffrey Swisher joins for a medical (and Swisher) themed episode. What does full FDA approval of the Pfizer vaccine mean for public health? What about antibody treatments? Team Swisher also discusses the nursing crisis, and the Biden Administration’s new plan to lower prescription drug costs. Plus, Friend of Pivot John Carreyou joins to discuss what’s to come in his new Theranos trial podcast, “Bad Blood: The Final Chapter.” You can find Dr. Jeffrey Swisher on Twitter at @jeffreyswisher, and on substack at jeffreyswishermd.substack.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What will the Taliban do with Afghans’ data? Kara and guest host Casey Newton discuss that, and how social media platforms are handling pro-Taliban accounts. Plus, will workers go for Facebook’s new VR meeting app, Horizon Workrooms? And...thoughts on Fox News requiring employees to report their vaccination status. Find Casey at @CaseyNewton on Twitter and subscribe to Platformer at www.platformer.news/subscribe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest host Ben Smith joins Kara to discuss Afghanistan's fall to the Taliban, and what it means for news coverage of the region. And: a new business deal aims to bring movies back to movie theaters. But will audiences follow? Also, Friend of Pivot Julie K. Brown joins us to discuss her reporting in Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest co-host Baratunde Thurston tells Kara what he'd pay to hear Rudy Giuliani say on Cameo. Kara pulls no punches on the politicization of vaccines. They discuss the implications of the latest census data, and answer a listener question about what CNN should do about Chris Cuomo. Plus, Baratunde has a prediction about the future of the auto industry, and Kara reveals what she'd do if she had as much money as Jeff Bezos. You can check out Baratunde's new newsletter at theeasystuff.news, and check out his podcast, How To Citizen, here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest host Preet Bharara reacts to getting in Team Cuomo's crosshairs. Friend of Pivot Retired Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman on the phone call that changed his life, and his new book, Here, Right Matters: An American Story. Also: Apple's new child safety measures pique privacy advocates, while Chinese giant Tencent faces a lawsuit for not protecting children. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest host George Conway (and a pack of dogs) join Kara to unpack the results of a special election, new information on Trump's last days in office, and the damning report on Governor Andrew Cuomo. Also, could a class action lawsuit make Facebook the new Big Tobacco? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and guest host Stephanie Ruhle talk about why Scarlett Johansson and Amanda Knox are putting the Hollywood establishment on blast. They also break down the latest on vaccine mandates and infrastructure legislation. Pulitzer-winning Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker join to talk about their best-selling political exposé, I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trump’s Catastrophic Final Year, and give us their predictions on whether Trump will run again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this week’s Pivot, Kara and Scott wonder why Instagram took so long to add protections for teens, and what Big Tech will do with its record profits. A Pivot listener wants the details on Scott’s investment strategies, and this week's prediction is about vaccine mandates. Plus, Kara sends Scott off in style for his month-long vacation. She’ll miss him, but the slew of guest hosts she announces might help fill the void. Just a little. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A tropical storm threatens the Olympics, Kara enjoys being the Bad Girl of GETTR, and Friend of Pivot Eliot Brown explains how WeWork's Adam Neumann attracted experienced investors, and kept his hair looking good at all times. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott discuss Marjorie Taylor Greene's recent Twitter ban, Jack Dorsey's hopes for a bitcoin "world peace," and the "joyless" Olympics. Kara has high hopes for Jonathan Kanter, Biden's pick for the Justice Department's anti-trust division. Things look a little more glum for privacy after the Pegasus Project revelations. And in listener mail, we get a question on every Zoomer's mind: Should I even bother planning for retirement? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott talk Robinhood's IPO, Netflix earnings, and Jeff Bezos' rocket ride. They also weigh in on the war of words between Facebook and President Biden, as well as the administration's stance on China and cyberattacks. And, Friend of Pivot Paxton Smith discusses the stringent Texas abortion bill that inspired her viral valedictorian speech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara and Scott talk what the big banks' quarterly earnings can tell us about economic recovery. They also discuss Senate Democrats' $3.5 trillion budget deal. In listener mail, we get a question about Apple and the niche search market. Scott has a prediction about space SPACs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices