
Stop Just “Checking In” and Start Creating Milestone Moments with Customers | Jason Bradwell, Founder of B2B Better and Host of Pipe Dream Podcast
Pipe Dream | A B2B Marketing Podcast
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Show Notes
This episode is brought to you by B2B Better. Stop sending "just checking in" emails. We build owned media systems that give your sales team actual reasons to reach out, turning podcasts into sales enablement assets that move deals forward.
If your sales reps send "just checking in" emails to prospects who've gone quiet, this episode explains why those fail and what to do instead. Host Jason Bradwell breaks down how to create milestone moments, legitimate, value-led reasons to reach out through long sales cycles without sounding desperate.
Jason's core point is clear: most B2B sales cycles are brutally long, but sales teams don't know how to stay present without being annoying. The traditional approach fails. Discovery call, proposal sent, then "just checking in" emails with no response. Twelve months later, the prospect went with a competitor because "you didn't understand our business." After month two, you had nothing valuable to say.
95% of B2B Better's clients have sales cycles over six months. And 95% of your customers are out of market at any given time. Your job is to stay present so when they flip to being in market, they think of you first.
Most owned media falls apart here. Marketing creates beautiful content. Sales sees it but has no idea how to use it in actual sales motion. Marketing measures downloads. Sales measures meetings. Different languages, different outcomes.
Milestone moments fix this. Month one: send proposal plus a podcast clip addressing their exact challenge. Month three: benchmark report. Month four: webinar invite. Month five: customer story. Month six: check in with context. Months seven to twelve: new episodes create new reasons to reach out. Month eighteen: deal closes because you felt like a partner.
B2B Better's sales enablement kits deliver three clips with email copy, key graphics, follow-up sequences, and tags showing which funnel stage each piece serves. One innovation: sales stitch videos where reps record 30-second reactions to clips. Personal brands beat company brands these generate thousands of views when originals get hundreds.
This works with three things: marketing-sales alignment through quarterly planning, infrastructure for sales to contribute to production, and attribution through CRM tracking plus conversations about where content surfaces in deals.
Chapter Markers
00:00 - The "just checking in" problem that kills deals
01:00 - Context on long sales cycles and 95% out-of-market buyers
02:00 - Why owned media strategies fall apart at sales activation
03:00 - Traditional approach: proposal to dead deal in 12 months
04:00 - Milestone moments approach: 18-month cycle done right
06:00 - What qualifies as a milestone moment
07:00 - Timing and sequencing content to the buyer journey
08:00 - Sales enablement kit components
09:00 - Tags and metadata for searchable, attributable content
10:00 - Sales stitch videos: personalising content at scale
11:00 - Why personal brands beat company brands in B2B
12:00 - Three requirements: alignment between teams
13:00 - Infrastructure for sales to contribute to production
14:00 - Attribution: quantitative and qualitative tracking
15:00 - The challenge: audit your last five gone-quiet emails
Useful Links
Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn
Read the Ehrenberg-Bass 95-5 rule research
Explore HubSpot CRM for tracking content touches
Check out Salesforce CRM
Explore B2B Better website and the Pipe Dream podcast