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TFW When ‘Abolitionists’ Build Skyscraper Jails w/ Jarrod and Zhana

TFW When ‘Abolitionists’ Build Skyscraper Jails w/ Jarrod and Zhana

Party Girls · Jamie Peck and Sam Beard

March 26, 20251h 14m

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<p>What happens when politically underdeveloped abolitionists team up with ladder-climbing non-profit directors and big money philanthropy? Nothing good, that’s what! Jamie and Sam are joined by Zhandarka Kurti and Jarrod Shanahan to discuss their new book “Skyscraper Jails: The Abolitionist Fight Against Jail Expansion in New York City” and the heartbreaking, cautionary tale about how a fight to shut down Rikers Island prison was taken over, watered-down, and channeled into a movement to built four of the tallest prisons in the world.</p> <p>Why does the prison industry develop in response to the failures of capitalism? How was the movement to shut down one prison turned into a movement to open a network of skyscraper jail facilities? Will Rikers Island ever close? Was “Defund the Police” actually just a betrayal of the George Floyd Rebellion? How can our movements win?</p> <p>All this and more on this week's special episode.</p> <p>Buy the book here: <a href="https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2454-skyscraper-jails">https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2454-skyscraper-jails</a></p> <p>00:00:00 Introductions and banter</p> <p>00:03:13 Jarrod &amp; Zhara’s experience in college Criminology Depts</p> <p>00:09:10 J &amp; Z’s collaborative writing process and staying accountable to the movement</p> <p>00:16:59 “Skyscraper Jails” overview - nonprofitication</p> <p>00:26:11 How did the U.S. “prison industrial complex” develop in response to failures of capitalism?</p> <p>00:34:26 How did “Close Rikers” morph into advocating for four new NYC jails?</p> <p>00:48:00 No such thing as a “better” jail</p> <p>00:53:21 Spicy takes on Defund the Police movement</p> <p>SIGN UP NOW at <a href="https://patreon.com/partygirls">https://patreon.com/partygirls</a> to get all of our bonus content, Discord access, and a shout out on the pod!</p> <p>Join our YouTube channel as a member to get access to bonus videos (the same one's you'd find on Patreon!):</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0T-lzkTsMt1tBSvp958UGQ/join">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0T-lzkTsMt1tBSvp958UGQ/join</a></p> <p>Follow us on ALL the Socials:</p> <p>Instagram: @party.girls.pod</p> <p>YouTube: @partygirlspod</p> <p>TikTok: @party.girls.pod</p> <p>Twitter: @partygirlspod</p> <p>BlueSky: @partygirls.bsky.social</p> <p>Leave us a nice review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify if you feel so inclined: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/party-girls/id1577239978">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/party-girls/id1577239978</a></p> <p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/71ESqg33NRlEPmDxjbg4rO">https://open.spotify.com/show/71ESqg33NRlEPmDxjbg4rO</a></p> <p>Executive Producer: Andrew Callaway</p> <p>Producers: Charlotte Albrecht, Jon B., Ryan M.</p>