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Show Notes
It’s Brett’s 46th birthday bash, and he’s celebrating in style with Jeff and Christina. Expect gifts like Cooks Illustrated and flood detectors, riveting overflowing toilet tales, and sampling fun with Koala. Dive into comedy insights with an ‘Elf’ story featuring James Caan, and honor Bob Newhart’s 1961 Grammy win. Plus, a TUAW domain kerfuffle and Macstock marvels. Laugh, learn, and maybe even fix your toilet seat!
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Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction and Birthday Celebrations
- 00:43 Gifts and Subscriptions
- 02:37 Home Improvement and Plumbing Stories
- 03:53 The Best Toilet Seat Ever
- 05:52 Plumbing Mishaps and Family History
- 11:10 Birthday Party Plans
- 13:40 CrowdStrike Incident
- 19:09 Sponsor: 1Password
- 21:20 Sponsor bonus content
- 27:33 Reviving TUAW: A Controversial Story
- 33:59 AI Articles and Identity Theft
- 35:08 The Resurrection of Old Content
- 35:48 Reflecting on Past Work
- 37:40 The Sale of Content Rights
- 44:50 Macstock Reunion
- 50:09 GrAPPtitude: App Recommendations
- 01:04:38 Remembering Bob Newhart
Show Links
- Best toilet seat ever
- Major Windows BSOD issue hits banks, airlines, and TV broadcasters – The Verge
- A Beloved Tech Blog Is Now Publishing AI Articles Under the Names of Its Old Human Staff (404media.co)
- Early Apple tech bloggers are shocked to find their name and work have been AI-zombified – The Verge
- Apple blog TUAW returns as an AI content farm (engadget.com)
- Screen Studio
- Kaleidoscope
- Koala Sampler
- Jammin’ on the One
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Transcript
Jammin’ on the One
[00:00:00] Introduction and Birthday Celebrations
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[00:00:03] Brett: Hey, happy birthday. It’s my birthday. It’s Overtired. Um, we’re all here this week. It’s Jeff Severance Gunsel, Christina Warren, and myself, Brett Terpstra. Uh, how are you guys?
[00:00:16] Christina: Not too bad. Go on, go on, Jeff. Yeah, exactly. I was gonna say pretty birth I was gonna say happy birthday. I was like, not as good as you, birthday boy, but you know,
[00:00:24] Brett: I’m 46 today
[00:00:26] Jeff: Forty six.
[00:00:28] Brett: I’m not lying about my age like some people do. Um,
[00:00:33] Christina: It might be, it might be your birthday, but I’ll still tell you to fuck off. I can lie about my age as long as I want.
[00:00:37] Brett: I wasn’t singling you out. I just said some people.
[00:00:41] Jeff: Some people.
[00:00:43] Christina: Some
[00:00:43] Gifts and Subscriptions
[00:00:43] Brett: Um, yeah, I, uh, I’ve had a really good birthday. Elle, Elle knows how much I love getting gifts and I’m too old for most people to give me so they take it upon themselves to shower me. With gifts every year. [00:01:00] Um, and this year they got me a bunch of cool stuff, including a subscription to Cooks Illustrated and, uh, the book Vegetables Illustrated from Cooks Illustrated, which I’m very excited.
[00:01:11] Jeff: Print subscription? What a beautiful is this still beautiful? It’s been a long time. I don’t know if it got eaten by okay,
[00:01:17] Brett: I was picking them up at the co-op and just like, well actually, uh, one of the, one of the families that EL was house sitting for had them laying out. And I had forgotten how much I loved that magazine. Even like, even as a pescatarian who can’t eat half the recipes in there, they’re still so beautifully illustrated and beautifully written.
[00:01:39] Brett: And it’s just, it’s a fun read. It’s food, it’s food porn.
[00:01:43] Jeff: in an era yeah, but with line art. But in a in an era of like, um, the horrible, awful, terrible, evil, fascist food blog, where it’s like, let me just push all this shit away to get to a very simple recipe.
[00:01:59] Brett: [00:02:00] huh.
[00:02:00] Jeff: How amazing that all of the extra verbiage in Cook’s Illustrated is just towards you learning.
[00:02:07] Jeff: Uh, I think it’s amazing. It was like in the day, maybe it sounds like it’s the same, it was like McSweeney’s level design attention, but like even beyond that somehow. Yeah. That’s awesome.
[00:02:18] Brett: That’s exciting. Um, yeah, she also got me the book, um, Hip Hop is History by Questlove,
[00:02:26] Jeff: Oh, nice.
[00:02:27] Brett: cause they heard a, an interview and they’re like, Oh, this is all Brett. This is great. So they got me the book. So anyway, it’s been a great birthday.
[00:02:37] Home Improvement and Plumbing Stories
[00:02:37] Brett: My parents got me a flood sensor, which at first blush is ridiculous because we live high on a hill.
[00:02:45] Brett: Uh, on a bluff or like on next to a bluff, but like, there’s no chance of our house flooding, but I have done things like missing, poorly install a bidet and not [00:03:00] realize that I’m flooding the basement
[00:03:02] Jeff: Yeah, those are great for the basements.
[00:03:04] Brett: Yeah. So, so having some, some, uh, moisture sensors around the house could be. Could be truly valuable.
[00:03:13] Brett: My dad got it for me because he had recently discovered that a 30 year old toilet had begun slowly leaking into the foundation.
[00:03:23] Jeff: Oh man.
[00:03:24] Brett: so he’s like, everybody gets flood detectors now.
[00:03:28] Jeff: That’s amazing. I bet it wasn’t the toilets fault though.
[00:03:32] Brett: Well,
[00:03:32] Jeff: just like a seal or something? Cause the amazing thing about toilets is they can go forever. There’s such simple machines.
[00:03:37] Brett: just solid pieces of porcelain. Yeah. It would have been like a seal or something. Um,
[00:03:44] Jeff: Fascinating content. Hey
[00:03:46] Brett: Yeah, yeah, subscribe, subscribe for more home improvement. Um,
[00:03:50] Christina: Okay. Speaking of
[00:03:51] Jeff: about it all day.
[00:03:53] The Best Toilet Seat Ever
[00:03:53] Christina: of toilets, someone showed me, no, no, genuinely, somebody showed me the best toilet seat I’ve ever seen the other day. [00:04:00] Um, it’s, it’s, it’s from like this, this, um, LA based artist who’s pretty awesome. And she, she basically took a bunch of old smartphones and made like a toilet seat out of them.
[00:04:10] Christina: Um, let me, let me find the link that I, that I can give you guys. Um, it’s really good. It’s the only problem is, and the only reason I’m not going to have it is that it’s. Is 1, 250. So, um, you know, that, that, that, that unfortunately, um, prices me out just a little bit. Yeah. The woman’s name is, uh, is Bailey, um, Hikawa and her stuff is incredible here.
[00:04:31] Christina: I’m putting this link in our chat here
[00:04:35] Jeff: Do you ever have to tighten your toilet seat?
[00:04:37] Brett: oh yeah,
[00:04:37] Jeff: Man.
[00:04:38] Brett: when you sit down and it wiggles off
[00:04:40] Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I find that to be probably the most disgusting of toilet related maintenance because you have to get your hands around there and get your hand under there on the nut. Uh, just very terrible and preventable. I’m sure,
[00:04:55] Brett: we have one of those like bolt on bidets and in order to [00:05:00] properly clean our toilet, you have to fully remove the toilet seat and the bidet. So about once a week I do that and I’ve gotten really good at it, but I’ve also stripped out the screws by using a drill on the plastic screw.
[00:05:13] Jeff: oh no, you should have called
[00:05:15] Brett: the chances of ever tightening it enough that that little slip doesn’t happen when you sit down, that’s going to require
[00:05:22] Jeff: Wait, let’s make this the whole podcast. I have a couple of questions. Are those screws embedded or can you replace them? Cause they,
[00:05:27] Brett: Oh, they’re totally replaceable.
[00:05:28] Jeff: Okay, okay. Good to know.
[00:05:30] Brett: I have replaced them multiple times. I even tried replacing them with metal screws once, but that was, uh,
[00:05:35] Jeff: But you only really think about it when you’re on the shitter. Yeah, that’s a problem because you can’t do anything from there. Maybe Amazon.
[00:05:41] Brett: How much, how long do you think we could talk about toilets? Because
[00:05:44] Jeff: I’ll tell you what.
[00:05:46] Brett: haven’t even gotten into the talking toilets with the built in bidets. I,
[00:05:52] Plumbing Mishaps and Family History
[00:05:52] Jeff: One, my entire line of, of Gunsels, uh, in America, up until my dad [00:06:00] became a teacher, was plumbers. Gunsel Plumbing and Heating ruled the North Side. Uh, and, and so that’s one thing. Two, the reason my name is Jeff and not John, is because is because my dad was worried that coming from a plumbing fact, uh, family, I would be ridiculed for having a name that is also what you call a bathroom. So I can talk about this all day, uh, but we should probably stop for the sake of our, our,
[00:06:25] Brett: No, I’m, I’m digging this. It’s my birthday and I want to talk about toilets. I actually worked as a,
[00:06:31] Jeff: what you wish for.
[00:06:32] Brett: I worked as an apprentice plumber in, uh, in college and have installed my fair share of toilets. I enjoy everything from the wax ring up. Um, that’s, that’s actually
[00:06:45] Jeff: The wax ring is fascinating. For people that don’t know, the seal that keeps your toilet from doing what Brett’s dad’s toilet did, for the most part, is a fucking wax ring to this day.
[00:06:57] Brett: And it’s soft. It’s, it’s a soft wax ring. [00:07:00] Um, but yeah, and clearing out, um, toilets that people flush tampons down out in on campus. That was fun.
[00:07:11] Jeff: I am the family’s plunger.
[00:07:13] Brett: Hairballs were, I never, I never got used to hairballs. Yeah, I own my own snake. I can do all that stuff.
[00:07:21] Jeff: I remember a friend of the show, Danny Glamour, telling me about his time working in a nursing home and how he at least once had to go into a bathroom and break up a poop with a screwdriver to make something work. Christina, how are you with all this? I don’t know. I have a feeling you’re either like, yeah, I’ll just listen.
[00:07:40] Jeff: Or you’re like fucking stop.
[00:07:42] Christina: No, I mean, I’ll
[00:07:42] Brett: For all we know, she also worked as a plumber.
[00:07:45] Jeff: know.
[00:07:46] Christina: no. Uh, no. I’m the one who calls the plumber. Please, like, I’m the one who, like, does something dumb that requires the plumber to be called because, you know, yeah, you’re flushing the tampons down the toilet or whatever. Uh, no, I have [00:08:00] no opinions on any of this, but it’s interesting.
[00:08:03] Brett: Can I tell you? Oh, go ahead.
[00:08:04] Jeff: we’re both just ready to keep going.
[00:08:06] Brett: We got stories, man.
[00:08:07] Jeff: Uh, you go, I’ll go, and then maybe we can,
[00:08:10] Brett: So my, the most recent time I had to call a plumber was our, our kitchen sink and the dishwasher weren’t draining. Um, and I had snaked down, my snake goes 50 feet and I had not been able to clear the issue. Uh, but I found, you know, the access valve in the downspout of the sink.
[00:08:31] Brett: I’m, I’m, I’m fucking up technical terms here,
[00:08:33] Jeff: Yeah, but your hand gestures are getting us there.
[00:08:35] Brett: If I unscrewed it, it would drain. So there was something, I could not figure out why that worked, but like it was, it was baffling, so we brought in a plumber and he snakes like a hundred feet in, he can’t find anything wrong. Like he gets all the way to the wall in the basement, nothing clogging it, no problem.
[00:08:56] Brett: The problem ends up being this little valve. It’s like a, [00:09:00] uh, I can’t remember what they call it. It’s just this tiny little part. It costs 15 to replace, but it costs us 200 in time for him to realize that the problem was right at the, at the faucet. Um, I couldn’t figure it out. I’ll, I’ll give him, I’m, yeah, they shouldn’t have charged me.
[00:09:21] Brett: That’s the thing. If he, if he did all that and then realized that he missed an obvious thing he should have checked first, I shouldn’t have been charged 200.
[00:09:29] Jeff: Ah, this is the this is the forever problem. Yeah. I don’t feel like we’ve ever had a contractor where it doesn’t end with, like, Uh, wait a minute, hold on. Ha ha ha ha ha!
[00:09:39] Christina: you for what now?
[00:09:40] Jeff: Yeah, exactly.
[00:09:41] Christina: that you messed up first? Yeah. Which, uh Which I think, which uh, we’re recording this on, on, on CrowdStrike day, so I think that’s something that even people not dealing with plumbing can relate to.
[00:09:54] Jeff: Yes. Yes.
[00:09:55] Brett: we move on to
[00:09:56] Jeff: Uh, after this one piece, um, so my grandfather, [00:10:00] my grandfather was the final plumber in the line, and I used to be at their home when he would get home from work. Man, they had an amazing little like Dodge white van that said Gunsel Plumbing and Heating. I’d kill for that van. Um, but I do have a giant framed Gunsel Plumbing and Heating poster from the 30s that is really awesome.
[00:10:16] Jeff: But anyway, he would come home and he would go down to the basement and he would wash his hands for so long. long and I would sit there and talk to him and it was just like he’d go to the laundry, uh, to the laundry sink and just soap and fucking go and soap and go that like lava soap that like
[00:10:32] Brett: Oh, I was going to ask if it was the orange stuff.
[00:10:34] Jeff: I don’t think that was around yet because that’s sort of in the 80s like uh early or mid 80s and um but then today to this day I am always happy when I my hands have become dirty enough like I was out working on this like, ancient tool and my hands were just filled with grease.
[00:10:51] Jeff: I don’t wear gloves. And I, and I am so thrilled when I have to come in and I just have to scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub because it just like, it feels like, feels like [00:11:00] Gramps. Uh,
[00:11:01] Brett: your kids sit and talk to you while you do
[00:11:02] Jeff: no, nobody talks to me while I do it. Nobody. Zero people. All right. That’s all I had to get out.
[00:11:10] Birthday Party Plans
[00:11:10] Brett: Oh, I was going to tell you guys about my birthday party before we move
[00:11:14] Christina: Yeah, please
[00:11:14] Jeff: Well, please, we asked before and that was what triggered us ending the pre show and starting the
[00:11:20] Brett: I always hope that someone will throw me a cool birthday party. And I had, um, put together rough plans back in 2020 something, um, for, for my birthday. 42nd birthday party, which would have been four years ago. Yeah. So like 2020 and I was going to have a big hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy theme party.
[00:11:44] Brett: And I was, I had plans for like a plaster. Head, like second head. So it could be, what’s it, Zaphod. Um, that all fell through thanks COVID and thanks Obama. And, um, and so I haven’t had a birthday party since [00:12:00] then. So this year I took it upon myself and I got, I sent out a Facebook invite to like 50 people, including Jeff, who doesn’t check Facebook.
[00:12:10] Christina: Right. Because who, who, who, because who checks Facebook genuinely?
[00:12:14] Brett: I do. Um,
[00:12:15] Jeff: But you gotta, but text me, then I feel like I’m really invited.
[00:12:18] Brett: Sure, sure. It’s just, I had a lot, I had a lot of moving parts. Um, but I put together a party at, uh, it’s called Suncrest Garden Pizza Farm. And it’s like big outdoor, they have a big barn with a wood fire, uh, wood Yeah, wood fire oven and they make pizzas to order and they do a vegan gluten free pizza and with your choice of toppings and then you eat outdoor.
[00:12:44] Brett: There’s some picnic tables but most people bring a blanket and just like sit around and there’s live music. Huge craft beer selection and yeah so I organized my own birthday party and I’m pretty excited. I got like 20 people coming that’s not bad.[00:13:00]
[00:13:01] Christina: pretty great,
[00:13:01] Jeff: That’s awesome, man. That sounds amazing. I’ve always wanted to go to one of those. And I wish I was going to yours. I really do. And I’m looking up on Facebook now, the invite, just so I can at least enjoy it and acknowledge it. I really truly did not see it. And I’m sorry about that.
[00:13:18] Brett: Yeah, I, I did, I did manually invite a few people. I assumed you wouldn’t be able to make it. So you’re lower on my list of people to like force invites upon,
[00:13:29] Jeff: Yeah, but I agreed to a hour plus call with you today.
[00:13:35] Christina: It’s true.
[00:13:36] Brett: without, without travel time.
[00:13:38] Jeff: But without travel time, that’s right.
[00:13:39] Brett: yeah. All right.
[00:13:40] CrowdStrike Incident
[00:13:40] Brett: We should talk about CrowdStrike, um, that I don’t know how pressing it will be on Monday when this comes out, but for today,
[00:13:48] Christina: for today,
[00:13:50] Brett: It’s a hell of a thing to have happen on your birthday,
[00:13:53] Christina: I mean, I’m, I’m glad that you’re not a Windows admin and, um,
[00:13:57] Brett: right? Oh
[00:13:57] Christina: genuinely that’d be the worst. No. So for [00:14:00] anybody who is not aware, um, three days ago, as you were listening to this, like the world woke up and everything was broken because CrowdStrike issued a driver update to tens of thousands of machines that Blue screen of death, everything.
[00:14:16] Brett: planes, planes weren’t taking off. Online banking wasn’t working. Health providers were failing. Yeah,
[00:14:23] Jeff: Oh, I couldn’t deposit checks at my bank today.
[00:14:26] Christina: Oh yeah, no, ATMs are down. Like a friend of mine, um, is an ER doc at like one of the biggest hospitals in, in Washington. And, and like, uh, he sent me, you know, info. He was like, yeah, they just told us to bring our own laptops in today. And then he sent me like, like a, like the part of an email that like showed all the systems that are down.
[00:14:44] Christina: I was like, holy shit. Now most of the main systems, I think like the really, really like important ones are back up already, but
[00:14:51] Brett: they said. They said most, most users that could just reboot
[00:14:57] Christina: Yes,
[00:14:57] Brett: would come up fine. The [00:15:00] problem was automated systems that can’t be cycled in that way.
[00:15:05] Christina: Right, yeah, so this is the funny thing, like the best solution to this is literally to restart it between 3 and 15 times.
[00:15:15] Brett: you tried turning it off and turning it back on 15
[00:15:18] Christina: And yet that is actually one of the solutions, yeah, so I mean, people are working on some automated ways for this to work, but honestly, like, bad day for CrowdStrike, although, you know what, these are fucking McAfee people, so I don’t know why we expected more from them.
[00:15:31] Jeff: Yeah,
[00:15:32] Christina: Genuinely.
[00:15:33] Brett: I like how ground news in their summary of this story. Uh, the third point was Crouch, CrowdStrike shares are down. And their competitor’s shares are up. Well, no shit.
[00:15:47] Christina: Yeah. I mean, as they freaking should be. Um, cause they, this is a company that, uh, like has lobbied the hell out of various governments to basically mandate that anybody who does any sort of, you know, [00:16:00] government or, or, uh, public issued thing, they’re like, Oh no, you have to, um, use, um, us. There’s, there’s no way you’ll be protected and secure without us.
[00:16:09] Christina: Please let us have control over all of your systems. And, um, And people, I guess, believe them. And, uh, yeah. This is a
[00:16:19] Brett: many people do you think are getting fired?
[00:16:21] Christina: I mean, a lot, I hope. Because if a lot aren’t, then what is this for, right? Like, honestly, like, I’m not usually, like, a big proponent of fire, you know, people who make fuckups. But in a case like this, like, literally your job is to You know what I mean?
[00:16:34] Christina: Like, like, literally your job is, is you, you are saying to people, trust us for all of your security updates and for your antivirus and ransomware and whatnot, and trust us to protect your systems. And then you push out an update that is either not tested well, or something went wrong, and it breaks, like, half the free world.
[00:16:51] Christina: Yeah, a lot of people
[00:16:52] Brett: I was gonna say, so you got, you got like, you got a coder, and then you have hopefully like a peer review, and then you have [00:17:00] quality control, and there should have been at least two levels of testing on a, an update with this ram, with these ramifications, if not more. But, so that’s, that’s three, that’s three people slash teams that shouldn’t have a job.
[00:17:17] Christina: right. Yeah. I mean, and their bosses, whatever their, whatever their process is, because this had to be a breakdown in process, right? Like, obviously they have processes to, to test, um, but clearly they’re not good enough. It was interesting. Um, I, I was able to find some proof that like, obviously people are, are understandably like taking digs at Windows right now.
[00:17:37] Christina: The truth is this could have happened with any platform that CrowdStrike supports. It didn’t, but it could have. And in fact, I found evidence that in April and May, there were massive, like, kernel panics that happened on both Debian and Red Hat because of CrowdStrike. But I guess, you know, they just don’t have the same, um, like,
[00:17:56] Brett: really, maybe it’s not a matter of people getting fired. Maybe it’s a [00:18:00] matter of CrowdStrike going bankrupt.
[00:18:02] Christina: I mean, yeah, maybe. The CEO, his initial response, he didn’t even apologize. He was just like, Oh, we had an issue. Blah, blah, blah. And he didn’t even bother to say sorry. MoFo, read the room. Like, airports and hospitals and 911 systems are down.
[00:18:19] Jeff: 911 systems, you know, when you fucking apologize is when hospitals and 911
[00:18:23] Christina: Exactly. Exactly.
[00:18:25] Jeff: definitely a time to apologize no matter what your lawyer says.
[00:18:28] Christina: Right, exactly. And then, exactly. Fuck your lawyer. Oh, we can’t show, you know, responsibility. You are responsible, motherfucker. You are responsible, like, literally. And also, again, you’re the people who have lobbied, you know, like, governments and institutions and been like, oh, you have to use us if you want to be safe and secure, right?
[00:18:44] Christina: So if you’re telling people you’re good enough to be in those spaces, well then, fuck you. Buck stops with you, asshole. Um, he finally like released a slightly better statement, slightly, where he did put in an apology, but like, it’s still so minor and it’s still so like, [00:19:00] trying to just be like, Oh, this wasn’t a security incident.
[00:19:03] Christina: Fuck off. Like, I don’t think people care about the nuances
[00:19:07] Jeff: it is now.
[00:19:08] Christina: Yeah.
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[00:19:09] Brett: You, you would not believe how well I can segue this from here to our sponsor for today and then into our next topic. Man, I, my brain’s working on like, it’s like 40 chests
[00:19:22] Jeff: what that is right now? That’s birthday
[00:19:24] Christina: I was going to say, this is birthday brain. Hell yeah.
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[00:21:04] Christina: Intra. It used to be Azure AD. It used to be Active Directory, but yeah,
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[00:21:42] Jeff: and if that read didn’t touch you, I just hear, I mean, I, one password is such, maybe as much an important part of my life as one or two of Brett’s creations, um, in terms of just how much I access it and use it every single day. And I have [00:22:00] never, ever had a problem. They only get. Better, they added the SSH business not long ago.
[00:22:05] Jeff: I mean, maybe a year ago now, but like, they just. It’s incredible. And I don’t even know, like, I don’t even know what life is without it, even though there are other options. And also I’m in the process of doing some like business operations stuff for our company and, and realize that a number of our employees may or may not, don’t listen hackers, be using 1Password as directed.
[00:22:27] Jeff: And so I’m also in the midst of like, writing sort of like a memo that’s like, here’s why you have to do it. Here’s how you use it. And here’s, um, and here’s, You know, here’s what will happen to you if you don’t. And just like having to kind of look into the features and, and the way this thing works today in order to write that.
[00:22:44] Jeff: So I can help people get set up. That’s like, this fucking thing is amazing. It’s amazing. Thank you. 1Password. Also, I finally stopped about three years ago, uh, uh, using the same password for everything. It was one thing that 1Password was telling me not to do forever, but I was like, I can’t listen, [00:23:00] but now I do.
[00:23:00] Jeff: So fuck you hackers.
[00:23:01] Brett: every time you open it up into like an edit window, it’ll tell you, a watch tower will tell you if the site. Uh, had experienced a breach and B, it will tell you if 2FA is available and you haven’t set it up and it will tell you if, uh, passkeys are available and you haven’t set it up, um, which is super handy when you have, as most people on the internet these days do, you know, a hundred, some different logins for a hundred different sites, uh, and you want to use a different password on everyone.
[00:23:34] Brett: You want everything to be as secure as possible. Yeah. And. And, uh, to the best of my knowledge, 1Password is one of the few password apps that have never experienced, uh, a major breach. Um, uh, uh, unlike LastPass, for example.
[00:23:53] Christina: Yeah, yeah. I, I’ve been, like, I don’t know what my passwords are and I haven’t for, I guess, going on, going on 18 years [00:24:00] because I,
[00:24:00] Brett: couldn’t possibly, yeah.
[00:24:01] Christina: because I’ve been using one password, I guess, since probably 2007, so I guess 17 years. And I, I don’t know my passwords. I don’t know them. And, uh, and
[00:24:08] Brett: all my passwords are random 20 character strings. There’s no way I could know my password.
[00:24:14] Christina: Uh, and, and, and I will just give a little bit of love to the, like, the passkey, um, support. Like, I, I know that there are, are some things that are, you know, just because passkeys, there’s some stuff that isn’t figured out, like, exporting and whatnot. But, like, if you use passkeys on multiple devices, that, especially if they’re not all Apple devices, 1Password, in my opinion, is the best solution because it does, it’ll sync everywhere.
[00:24:35] Christina: So a passkey that I have, you know, on like, uh, uh, you know, will work on Linux or on Windows or on my Mac or my iPhone or on whatever, which is really, really great. So,
[00:24:46] Jeff: Yeah. Christina loves it on Arch Linux. Big. Big fan. She built, she built that from the ground. I mean, I have to,
[00:24:52] Christina: I, I, yeah, yeah, I, I, I did. And because I’m going to tell everybody, you know, that I use Arch. But no, they, I, they do actually have a Linux client.
[00:24:58] Christina: So, good [00:25:00] stuff.
[00:25:00] Jeff: because this is almost as fun as toilets. Um, I just, a couple of things I want to add. One is that one thing I’ve started using more and more is in one password. You can send somebody a password, login information, and you can choose that it only goes that person. You can say it can only be used once. You can say it can be used for seven days.
[00:25:15] Jeff: I use that all the time. And that became like, The importance of that became really incredible when I found an onboarding document in our, in our files that had, it was like a Google doc with all of our key passwords in it, despite the fact that we have one password. The other thing I want to say is that there is nothing more fun.
[00:25:29] Jeff: Literally you could pass time doing this. If you were ever just kind of like bored, you were waiting at the doctor’s office. Just start generate, generating three word passwords. I’m going to do a few right now in one password. Okay. Here’s one, Kate. Pasty, Punt. That’s fun. Okay, here’s another one. Here’s another one.
[00:25:44] Jeff: Imply, Soften, Eclat, Perplex, Kohlrabi, Posit. I mean, come on, this is a great time.
[00:25:51] Brett: So, yeah, the space is a valid character in passwords. And once I realized that, uh, it increased my [00:26:00] usage of random three or four word, just random combinations of words, which on their own, uh, it becomes, uh, Not as unguessable as a 20 character random string with symbols, but, uh, but kind of on par. So like, um, Weasel, Monkey, Buttstuff can be a great password.
[00:26:25] Jeff: Totally. Yeah. And by the way, everybody, when you make your O’s, zeros, it’s not helping you.
[00:26:30] Brett: Yeah, right.
[00:26:31] Jeff: but that’s, that’s another story
[00:26:33] Brett: When you do, when you use leet speak, that’s, uh, that’s in most dictionaries.
[00:26:37] Jeff: when you
[00:26:37] Christina: Yeah, it is at this
[00:26:38] Jeff: not helping you.
[00:26:40] Christina: Unfortunately, we’ve all used, you know, whatever, like, the password, like, with one on the end. Like, we’ve all done that enough times that everybody knows. And the elite speak is unfortunately now in the dictionaries because, yeah, we’ve, enough breaches have happened and, uh, everyone knows our, uh, our [00:27:00] tells.
[00:27:00] Jeff: But yeah, we reviewed one of those annual reports of most commonly used passwords once on this podcast. That is a really good time as well. It’s, it’s also humbling.
[00:27:09] Christina: it really is humbling. You’re like, yeah, and this is why I don’t want to know what any of them are. Like, genuinely, like, I don’t
[00:27:13] Jeff: Yeah, you do not want to know what any of them are. Cause you know what doesn’t come up? Zero, A, two, asterisk, four, three, A, B, capital C. Never comes up in the top used passwords.
[00:27:24] Christina: No. No. And it’s great, too. Sorry, go on.
[00:27:28] Brett: no, I was about to change topics, but you got more to say? Go for
[00:27:31] Christina: No, I’m done. I’m done.
[00:27:33] Reviving TUAW: A Controversial Story
[00:27:33] Brett: So one of the people affected by the CrowdStrike problem, uh, was Tim Stevens, who could not board a flight and got stuck. And you may remember Tim Stevens as the editor of Engadget. Which, for years now, has hosted the archives of a little blog called the Unofficial Apple Web Blog.
[00:27:58] Brett: Um, which was, [00:28:00] which was dead. You go to tua. com and it would redirect you to mGadget. But, Um, Yahoo, which now owns the 2R domain, or owned, past tense, sold it to a holding company which pulled some shenanigans. You want to tell us about
[00:28:19] Jeff: This story, I’m just going to spoil it. The story is insane. And also I want to come back to your pronunciation of Yahoo later.
[00:28:25] Christina: Yahoo!
[00:28:28] Jeff: Yahoo!
[00:28:30] Brett: I’m sorry, I just can’t do the inflection right.
[00:28:32] Christina: Well, no, I think, I think we all just watched the, the ads so many times. Yahoo!
[00:28:38] Jeff: Yahoo!
[00:28:38] Christina: yeah. Um, anyway, yeah. Okay, so, this goes back about, um, two weeks now, as, as you’ll hear this. I was sick, actually. And I think this is important to know, because I, I, I, I’m very proud of myself for accomplishing what I accomplished while I had the stomach flu.
[00:28:54] Christina: And John Gruber sent me a link to tuaw. com and it [00:29:00] had my byline on it. And I was like, laughing. I was like, okay, what is this? And then it turned out, I looked at it and I was like, why is this site still alive? Because as Brett mentioned, the site had been dead for close to 10 years. Well, it had been dead for, for close to close to 10, because it shut down in 2015.
[00:29:17] Christina: And, um, It was just redirecting to engadget. com, not even redirecting to the article links, just a full on redirect. And I was like, okay, why is this here? And then I look at this face and I see this face that is not mine, but I see, you know, byline Christina Warren, and I’m seeing articles written. And I was, at first I’d assumed that maybe somebody had bought the domain and they were like trying to backfill some of the past articles.
[00:29:39] Christina: I was like, okay, what is this? And then I looked a little closer and I realized, no, the site is back and they’re publishing new articles. Um, which, you know, look, that’s a thing. If Yahoo, the current owners of the AOL brands, Apollo Global, whatever, if they want to sell, uh, you know, an old domain because they think they can make a few dollars off of it, fine.
[00:29:59] Christina: If someone wants to try to [00:30:00] revive the brand, fine. But what was odd to me is that My name looked like I was still publishing new articles in July 2024. I’m like, okay, what is this? Right. And so I look further into it and I look at the about page and all of the author names are historical old school authors of TUAW.
[00:30:19] Christina: And so Brett’s name is there. Uh, uh, Victor’s name is there. Mike Rose’s name is there. Like everybody that we used to work with back in the day is there, but the photos are. AI generated. No, no. I mean, and this honestly pissed me off. I was like, could you at least have made me hotter? Like, genuinely, like that, that was like the biggest insult and injury.
[00:30:39] Christina: So what they did, um, according to their own about page, they said that they acquired the domain only and not the content, but that they quote, meticulously rewrote the content using archive.
[00:30:54] Jeff: Meticulously rewrote.
[00:30:55] Christina: yeah, yeah, they said that they meticulously rewrote the content, um, [00:31:00] using stuff that was on archive.
[00:31:01] Christina: org and, um, uh, to, to, to match, uh, current standards, which, okay. Um, and, and then they were publishing these things that way. So I, of course, immediately am mad and I’m sick, right? So I,
[00:31:15] Jeff: Oh my god, I w