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[00:00:00] Christina:

[00:00:02] Christina: You’re listening to Overtired, a podcast where I’m not angrily ranting for once. I’m Christina Warren, joined as always by my friends, Brett Terpstra and Jeff Severns Guntzel Boys. How are you doing

[00:00:19] Brett: You’re not angrily ranting yet, but the night is young

[00:00:22] Christina: The okay. The, the, the, the episode is young, but I’m not like that. That’s not all I’m doing. Let’s say that.

[00:00:28] Jeff: Hello.

[00:00:31] This is where the ticketmaster talk starts

[00:00:31] Brett: Yeah. Um, so Christina, you, you had a, you had a, a cameo last week, uh, as you dealt with some, uh, Taylor Swift ticket issues,

[00:00:43] Christina: Yes.

[00:00:44] Brett: we’re all on the edge of our seats to know how that turned out. Did your mom get tickets? How are things going?

[00:00:49] Christina: No, no, no, she did not. Uh, because they canceled the general sale. So, uh, my, uh, my best attempt at getting tickets for Atlanta where I had tickets in [00:01:00] my cart, I hit, I hit checkout, I checked out, and then because my dad’s phone was off, he did not get a code that I needed to check out. Um, yeah, so that happened.

[00:01:12] Christina: I was able to successfully get some tickets for the Seattle show using someone else’s Capital One credit card, because

[00:01:20] Brett: What’s in their wallet?

[00:01:22] Christina: even though my, my, my dad was like, I will have my phone next to me. I was like, I do not trust you.

[00:01:29] Jeff: A bond has been broken. I have a, I have a question for you, Christina. How, how well do you grasp this current, um, lawsuit situation around Live Nation and whatever else?

[00:01:41] Christina: Well, okay. I don’t know really how much of a case there is for it, to be completely honest. Like, I feel like the DOJ. Video J should have been investigating Ticketmaster for years. And, and honestly, I consider it a massive failure of the Obama administration that they allowed, um, Ticketmaster and Live Nation to merge in 2011 to begin with.

[00:01:58] Christina: Right. Like [00:02:00] every, it is sort of funny to see all these Democrats like decrying this, and I’m like, okay, let’s not forget whose congress, whose senate and whose presidency this was under.

[00:02:08] Brett: Obama was not great for monopoly uh, issues.

[00:02:13] Christina: no, but I’m also, but, but I’m just saying like this, this was 2011. This was not like when, this was not an era when, uh, Democrats, um, did not have, uh, a say and, and it wasn’t like we were split down the middle. Like we are right now. Right? So, um, let’s just be honest about that situation. So I, I think that this is a merger that anybody with, with common sense knows never should have happened.

[00:02:40] Christina: Uh, but I don’t know how much of how strong the DOJ case here is. And, and how much of this is just politicians bloviating. I am glad that because so many politicians clearly could not get Taylor Swift tickets, that they’re angry about this. Um, and, and maybe that will change some things. Um, but I [00:03:00] don’t know the, the big egregious aspect of the wholesale to me as we’ve gotten more information, like, look, I’m mad about like my own like bad luck in this.

[00:03:08] Christina: Um, I did get tickets to two shows. I will be buying tickets from my mom and I cuz my mom really wants to go. And now she’s like, oh, it just wasn’t meant to be. And I’m like, hell no. will spend what it costs. And I don’t wanna, I mean, this is the part that pisses me off. I’m even willing to buy like scallops tickets.

[00:03:27] Christina: But then the scalpers charge 50% fees, 50% of what the ticket price is. So it’s not even like a, a fee price. So like if you were to be dumb enough to buy $12,000 tickets from StubHub, StubHub is then going to charge you $6,000 in fees. That is obscene.

[00:03:44] Jeff: that’s

[00:03:45] Christina: That’s obscene. Also, it’s obscene that, that, you know, like they, there are ways that you can prevent tickets from being transferred.

[00:03:53] Christina: And I, I’m not a fan of being like, only the people who can go are people who actually bought the tickets. Cuz that’s kind of [00:04:00] fucked up, right? Like real life things happen and, and if you wanted to buy them for people, like, I don’t know, that just feels like going too far. But there are things that they could absolutely do where like they see these tickets going for these prices on these services.

[00:04:13] Christina: They could absolutely go reach out to these services and be like, No, you can’t sell for these shows, or we’re going to ban, you know, we’re, we’re going to go through the, the, the line and, and find this stuff out. Um, but, uh, I, I don’t know. I mean, the, the clusterfuck of the, of the sale, the fact they canceled the general sale, the thing that has me as a conspiracy theorist, and I don’t think this is much of a conspiracy, they didn’t sell all the tickets.

[00:04:43] Christina: There are still tickets for each show remaining. We don’t know how many, and it probably wasn’t enough to do a general sale, but there are definitely still tickets out there. And at some point Ticketmaster will allow resales, I’m pretty sure, of this show on their platform. And at some point, I’m absolutely convinced whether it’s Ticketmaster [00:05:00] employees, which it probably will be, or they’ll do it in other ways.

[00:05:03] Christina: These remaining tickets are going to hit the open market, not at, at the, the face prices. Um, as, as you know, um, raises those might have been because of various v i p packs and other things. So there’s, I think it’s just like the lack of transparency with all this that has, uh, that is probably worthy of investigation, um, hilariously.

[00:05:26] Christina: The, you know, the focal point of this, everyone has been complaining about this for, for 25 years. I mean, Pearl Jam again famously, uh, went to bat for this. And then when I saw Pearl Jam in concert in the year 2000, I got my tickets from Ticketmaster. So Pearl Jam, you know, like Eddie put in the good fight but did not succeed.

[00:05:45] Christina: Um, and, uh, you know, um, aeg, who is Ticketmaster’s only competitor, is actually the, the sponsor, the, I guess the promoter of Taylor’s concert. They couldn’t use their own ticketing service because most of the venues have hundred year [00:06:00] plus agreements with, with the Ticketmaster.

[00:06:04] Jeff: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That’s a, that’s a thing.

[00:06:07] Christina: Yeah.

[00:06:09] Brett: A hundred year

[00:06:09] Christina: thing that should be illegal.

[00:06:11] Jeff: Oh my fucking God.

[00:06:13] Brett: mean, this whole thing is insane. Like, I can’t believe, I can’t believe they get away with this. Um, I don’t know what kind of regulation needs to happen to, to fix all of these problems. And like, there’s a whole thing with like Verizon and Ticketmaster and like, uh, like, uh, earmarking tickets for, like, specifically for VIP customers and like all this weird stuff that happens and the artists get screwed in all of this.

[00:06:42] Brett: It’s not the artists that are benefiting, it’s just Ticketmaster.

[00:06:46] Christina: it’s just take a master. Well, that’s the thing, right? When these resales happen, it’s not as if Taylor Swift or Adele or Bruce Springsteen or, you know, even smaller artists are benefiting from the scalping, [00:07:00] right. Because they’re not getting any, any payback from that. Um, although it would be bad optics for them, many way, like I’m sure that to a certain extent, like Taylor Swift doesn’t mind that her shows are sold out, but at another extent, and, and, you know, I, I was actually impressed she said anything about this and even expressed any amount of kind of frustration with the process because she loves money and these are the people who. You know, um, control the venues where she has to play. Uh, and, and she’s now at the stage in her career. Um, she and very few other artists like it. It’s a very small number of artists who can only play stadiums. She can only play stadiums. And, um, and it’s not like people are like, oh, well Garth Brooks just has another show until he can’t still out anymore.

[00:07:43] Christina: I’m like, there’s not enough time. She’s doing 53 shows in the US in a six month period of time. It’s backing up until the start of football season. The next time she can tour the US would be a year later for a second leg, and then she can’t do anything else but tour. Right? And, and bands have [00:08:00] done that before, but, um, you know, that’s, that’s not exactly what you wanna do.

[00:08:06] Christina: But yeah, to me, one of the more egregious things is the fact that like Ticketmaster has these, and this is not a joke, I’m not being hyperbolic as I often am. This is for real. They’re a hundred year plus contracts with the, the venues with Ticketmaster that says no matter who owns them, and this is true even for venues that are owned in some cases by aeg, the competitor,

[00:08:29] Brett: That is insidious.

[00:08:31] Christina: years beforehand, so they can’t do anything about

[00:08:35] Brett: That is, that is just that, just, I just see Mr. Burns,

[00:08:40] Christina: Oh yeah.

[00:08:41] Jeff: That is exactly it.

[00:08:42] Christina: It is totally what it is.

[00:08:45] Jeff: yeah.

[00:08:46] Brett: Excellent.

[00:08:47] Christina: And, and, and like, and I mean, honestly the stuff like Verizon or other big companies having, you know, like v i p tickets to give to people, that’s such small potatoes, right? Like that

[00:08:57] Brett: there’s some, there’s some scandal around. I remember [00:09:00] when I was watching one of these, uh, like I don’t remember Daily Show or, uh, or uh, some more news or something was taking on Ticketmaster and talking about all of the

[00:09:10] Christina: probably John Oliver.

[00:09:11] Brett: Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, you’re right. I think it was, I think it was last week tonight.

[00:09:15] Brett: Did Ticketmaster?

[00:09:17] Christina: Yeah. He did this like last year. I think we should find it and link to it. It’s, it’s good. But no, the whole thing is I, look, I’m, I’m, um, I’m mad for what I’m gonna wind up paying for the Atlanta show. Uh, I’m glad that I had tickets, uh, that I got for my friends, um, and I in New Jersey. And then, um, I was able to get a ticket to the second show in Seattle.

[00:09:39] Christina: Um, what kills me is not just the scalpers and the bots at this point. There’s real demand, I think, for this particular show. But the secondary thing that people don’t talk about, and this is affecting so many things, and, and this is a cultural thing, this is societal thing, and I don’t know if like the regulation would help this, but, but it [00:10:00] certainly would give some more, you know, competition is that you have, um, this whole subclass of people now who, because of the pandemic and because of, uh, scarcity, have now seen that this is something that they can make money on through arbitrage by just buying things they think are going to be in great, um, demand and low supply.

[00:10:21] Christina: So you saw this happen two years ago with, with GPUs and with PlayStations and with boxes. You’ve also seen it happen with sneakers where you have regular people who are just thinking, oh, this is gonna be a quick way for me to make. and I’m just gonna buy these things and then sell them on the secondary market for more.

[00:10:39] Christina: Um, I’m hoping that this is just gonna come out to bite people in the ass much like it has in the sneaker market, cuz the sneaker market is completely like plateaued. And you have a ton of people who bought just ridiculous amounts of shoes with the hopes of reselling them. And then the, the, the bottom kind of, you know, collapsed out of that.

[00:10:57] Christina: I’m hoping that just [00:11:00] the sheer number of supply of tickets for this show and other shows will mean that people who are trying to gouge people. Cuz here’s the thing, if you buy a $500 floor seat, that then has, you know, $200 in fees and you’ve gotta then pay, you know, your fees with the reseller. If you wanna sell that for $1,200, okay, fine.

[00:11:20] Christina: Right? Like I can see that. But 12,000. That’s when I’m just going, you got greedy Martin to go back to the Simpsons. Right? And, and, and wanna like smack people over the head because that just becomes gross and then that sets a baseline and an expectation that people can get that. So I don’t know. There’s this weird, fucked up, greedy cultural thing like two years ago.

[00:11:43] Christina: I spent a ridiculous amount of time, frankly cuz it was fun for me, but also because I just didn’t wanna see families paying scalpers for PlayStations or Xboxes for their kids for the holidays. But I got like 18 families and that’s not an exaggeration. PlayStations or [00:12:00] Xboxes at retail or through a bundle.

[00:12:02] Christina: That was actually a, a decent bundle for the holidays. And it took me a lot of time to do that, but I was like, I’ll be damned if people I know are going to be paying double or triple for a PlayStation. You know, like that’s a mass market item that’s stupid. Like Taylor Swift again, I can see like the adult tickets that I’m getting from my mom that are not even good seats.

[00:12:22] Christina: I can see. It’s like these are a true scarce item in, in a sense. Um, a PlayStations and GPUs are not. Um, but it was just like, just to see, and, and I consider myself a fairly pro capitalism person, but this isn’t capitalism. This is like putting your finger on the scale. Like this is like actually kind of the opposite of that, of people just being like, we wanna exert as much, um, power as we can to, you know, make the, the natural demand curve, um, not exist so that we can be as greedy as possible.

[00:12:52] Christina: And it’s like, you, you fucking assholes, you

[00:12:54] Brett: This has been one hell of a, Christina ran to open the show

[00:12:57] Christina: I was gonna say, I’m done now I’m done. So [00:13:00] that’s, that’s my rant.

[00:13:00] Jeff: Wait, wait, wait. I have a, I have

[00:13:02] Brett: no, Jeff, don’t. Don’t do it. Don’t fucking do

[00:13:05] Jeff: have a question.

[00:13:06] Christina: I will be very quick. I will very

[00:13:08] Jeff: I have a question you can

[00:13:09] Brett: Oh my God. Oh my God.

[00:13:10] Jeff: a question that we can’t answer. The question is just to move us out of this. Does Garth Brook still fly?

[00:13:17] Christina: I have no idea.

[00:13:19] Jeff: Okay. Hmm. And then I wished I was looking for a picture of a ticket stub. I have. I saw Olivia Newton John on her 30th birthday, um, and, uh, on the physical tour when I was a kid and the, and we were in, I think, the 22nd row on the main floor. I bet that fucking ticket was about $15, which, like, even with inflation, is still nowhere near what we would’ve today.

[00:13:43] Jeff: Jesus,

[00:13:44] Christina: I mean, and frankly, and, and, and this is the only thing I’ll say about, That’s kind of stunning to me that that was what you paid them because Okay. Even let’s say you had inflation of, of four or five times, which you would not have. Right? Because that was like 82, 83. Um, [00:14:00] that was height of her.

[00:14:01] Christina: Like that was like peak,

[00:14:02] Jeff: total peak. Yeah. I mean,

[00:14:05] Christina: That was peak pop, star living. Newton John. Like she had a huge career in the seventies, but this was like peak number one on billboard, like physical, like peak. Olivia, Newton John. Amazing seats. $15 probably. Wow. And also what an experience for you. That’s so cool.

[00:14:20] Jeff: It was a great show except I was then an M now a huge Grease fan and they brought out some dude they must have kept in the green room every night for most of the show to sing John Travolta’s parts and he was so not John Travolta in every possible way and she was so Thousand percent Olivia Newton John, right, that like it was, it was a very disappointing imbalance.

[00:14:44] Jeff: But physical is awesome cuz you know there were some leotards and some dancers.

[00:14:48] Christina: I can’t even imagine. My very first concert was Paula Abdul, and I was like seven. And, um, I was, or, or six or something. And, and I was, I remember being [00:15:00] sort of confused. Like I knew that the cat wasn’t real, but I was like, how was she gonna dance with the cat? And, and they just had like a video screen behind her.

[00:15:09] Jeff: What was that song?

[00:15:10] Christina: Um, um, opposites Tracked.

[00:15:11] Jeff: Yes. Not not Cold-Hearted Snake.

[00:15:14] Christina: No, that’s the one with the, was that the one with Le with Kean Reeves? No, Kean Reeves is in, um, rush. Rush.

[00:15:21] Jeff: Oh

[00:15:21] Christina: He’s in that video. Yeah.

[00:15:23] Jeff: I love it. I love it.

[00:15:26] Christina: All right. We’re done Brett.

[00:15:27] This is where it ends. That was really really long. Brett got super fuckin’ bored, but he’ll deal with it.

[00:15:27] Brett: Okay.

[00:15:28] Jeff: Hey, we ended on an Olivia Newton John

[00:15:30] Christina: We did. It was a very nice note.

[00:15:32] I hear Marimbas, or Mental Health Corner

[00:15:32] Brett: I feel like we should, uh, cue up some, some Olivia Newton John to segue us into some kind of mental health corner. I think we should have, I think I want, when I give Erin some like guidelines for like what kind of music we want for our different segments, I really, I hear like Mabas and castanets to go into, to go into the mental health corner, like a real 1950s martini

[00:15:57] Jeff: I just say, wait, wait. Can I just say that [00:16:00] I hear Mabas could be your mental health check in

[00:16:03] Christina: I hear Mambas. Okay. That that would actually be great. No, but I, I kind of love this. Yeah, I kinda have like a fifties, kind of like that sort of thing. And then that could be like our catcher. I hear Remems, you know what that means? It’s time. Ment Health Quarter

[00:16:17] Brett: Mental health corner.

[00:16:20] Christina: is brought to you this week by Ovaltine.

[00:16:23] Brett: I, uh, I need, I need to recover from, from our, our intro segment. So if someone else would like to give us a mental health check in while I like reset myself here,

[00:16:35] Christina: Yes.

[00:16:35] Brett: that would be awesome.

[00:16:36] Jeff: Oh boy.

[00:16:37] Christina: Um, mine is pretty basic. So I’m, uh, I’m in, uh, I’m in Atlanta for until next week. Um, so we’re recording this on. Wednesday, uh, the day before Thanksgiving. So I’m gonna be here until next Wednesday, actually. And then I leave like Wednesday morning, fly back to um, Seattle. So it’s a fairly long visit. I forgot that Thanksgiving was this week [00:17:00] because, uh, I’m bad at things like that.

[00:17:02] Christina: So, um, my mother-in-law is, is, um, having some health, um, problems. So my, my husband, I flew him to see her, which I’m actually really happy he was able to go do that. So she’s in Jacksonville, I’m in Atlanta. They’re close. But, uh, for, for just various reasons. I’m, I’m, I’m not with him this time, but, um, I am in Atlanta and I’m with my family, and that’s really nice.

[00:17:24] Christina: I’m glad that I’ve been coming home as, as frequently as, even though Atlanta doesn’t feel like home. But it’s just the easiest thing to say. I’m glad that in the last, year and a half, you know, since my nephew was born, I’ve been able to. Be home as frequently as possible and see my parents and my sister and stuff, because, you know, people aren’t getting any younger.

[00:17:44] Christina: And, um, this is always a hard time of the year for us. Sunday is the 11th anniversary of my aunt and uncle, passing away after, uh, they got in a car accident two days after Thanksgiving in, um, in 2011. So Sunday is the 11th [00:18:00] anniversary of that. So, um, Thanksgiving is hard for our family, but I’m, I’m really glad that I’m here.

[00:18:06] Christina: And, I’m also just kind of glad, like I can turn my brain off other than, you know, uh, ranting about Ticketmaster. So that’s, that, that, that, that’s, that’s my check in.

[00:18:15] Brett: I feel like you have your, uh, does your family do like a Thanksgiving dinner and everyone talks about what they’re grateful for?

[00:18:23] Christina: No.

[00:18:24] Brett: Oh, well, if, if they did, I feel like your mental health check-in would be a great like Thanksgiving table. I’m thankful to be home. I’m grateful to be with family. Yeah. I feel like you, I feel like you covered the Thanksgiving episode really well right there.

[00:18:39] Christina: Thank you.

[00:18:40] Brett: Yeah. Yeah. All right. Jeff, do you want to go or should I.

[00:18:45] Jeff: Um, I can go. I’m traveling. So it’s interesting like I. When I’m traveling, I just do my best to sort of maintain, make sure, take meds on time, you know, gr grumpy, figure out why. Um, but [00:19:00] I’m not nearly as sort of in tune with myself as I am when I’m home. Um, but I can say that I’m visiting my in-laws today and the next couple days, and I just came from my father and stepmother’s house for like a day and a half, and I didn’t think I wanted to leave town.

[00:19:18] Jeff: I felt like I wanted to stay in town. Um, we just had a lot going on over the last couple months, but the second I was out the door and in the car first with my own family, and then, uh, hanging out with my dad and stepmother playing a game they invented called Tortilla toss, um, which involves some rather elaborate, um, construction on their part.

[00:19:41] Jeff: Um, and then just the, the sort of the, the thing I would, I just wanna. Point to as being a nice reminder to myself is that my, um, my stepmom, I’m from a small town in Iowa, only lived there for the first two years of my life, and then every summer and winter break, um, until I was 18. Um, my [00:20:00] stepmother, who’s an artist, works with a gallery downtown and downtown in my hometown is literally just like a street.

[00:20:06] Jeff: Um, and in the basement, she decided to turn it into a music performance space where every Wednesday night anybody can come with an instrument, whether you’re awesome or terrible, and you’ll, you’ll find a place on the stage at some point with what has become this sort of like house band. And I was able to go see that space after hearing about it for the last couple months and see a bunch of pictures and, um, it was just an amazing, it’s just amazing how. How you can do community building, um, in, in ways that maybe you would’ve never thought of before. And then once you’ve done it, you’re like, Jesus Christ, why didn’t this already exist? Cause like from the time she started, the place is just flooded with people from, like, people that played in orchestras to this.

[00:20:51] Jeff: There’s an unhoused dude that comes in and sings every week. Um, and, uh, , there’s people that wanna beat each other up, and so they have to take space a little bit. You [00:21:00] know, like there’s this like, it’s, it’s like true community . And it was

[00:21:03] Brett: Ted

[00:21:04] Jeff: to see. Yeah,

[00:21:05] Brett: you remember the episode where he brings in the street musician to play the charity ball? Yeah,

[00:21:11] Christina: I love.

[00:21:11] Jeff: Love that.

[00:21:12] Jeff: It’s just, it’s nice to see family, it’s nice to be reminded of things that I would never do to build a community and then to realize how doing something like that can make such a difference for people.

[00:21:24] Jeff: It’s a corny thing to say, but it was like pretty fucking cool.

[00:21:27] Brett: Nice. That’s awesome. Um, so I, I have officially gone more than a month with automatic episode and, um, like there have been a couple times where I felt it coming on and did some self care routines and some, uh, and implemented some structure in my life that kept it from, I’d never, I haven’t lost a single night of sleep.

[00:21:53] Brett: I’ve had some insomnia. I’ve had like some low sleep, but it hasn’t resulted in. [00:22:00] You know, five days of no sleep and manic production. And I’ve also been producing content. Um, I’ve been writing, I’ve been working, I’ve been programming and like doing things that if I were depressed I wouldn’t be able to do.

[00:22:20] Brett: So I feel like this kind of idea. curbing my mania, has led to something closer to what I kind of hope stable is like. Um, I’ve continued to read Marbles and Rock Steady by Ellen Forney, which has been, very enlightening. but, uh, her medication journey was a lot like mine and I think, uh, Jeff could relate to it too.

[00:22:45] Brett: If you’ve never read marbles, I will send you a copy. I have an extra copy I’m gonna send you, send it to

[00:22:50] Jeff: do, please.

[00:22:52] Brett: But yeah, I am as close to stable as I’ve ever been. Um, I have exciting things happening on the job front [00:23:00] and I will talk about them eventually, but, uh, for now I’ll just say, Life is good and, and I don’t, I didn’t travel for Thanksgiving and I don’t have to see any family for Thanksgiving, which for me is like, I get a mental health day Thursday.

[00:23:18] Brett: Uh, like Al and I both have completely off no obligations, no yoga classes, no work, no family, and we get to just have like a day, uh, to kind of recover from life. And it’s gonna be awesome. I’m very much looking forward to it.

[00:23:36] Christina: I love that. I love that. I think like, Historically, even before my aunt and my uncle died, like I’ve never really been a big Thanksgiving person. Like, it’s just never been like, I don’t like the food, uh, my extended family. Uh, and I’ve, you know, there are people who I’m happy to see and there are people who I’m just kind of like, I don’t really care.

[00:23:56] Christina: So I, um, I’m not one of those people who like, [00:24:00] you know, extols like the virtues of like needing to like see your family or be with people like on Thanksgiving. Like I just, I get that. So I’m really glad that you and l had this time to de compressed because like we can all be grateful for that. You know what I mean?

[00:24:13] Brett: Yeah, yeah, Christmas. Christmas is gonna be, uh, a trial for me. Like my whole family is coming to town. Um, I’m gonna have to see like six nieces and nephews, plus a bunch of extended family, mostly very fundamentalist Christian that I don’t enjoy hanging out with. And my mom, my parents’ anniversary is right around Christmas and uh, I think this is their 50th and they’re having a square dance

[00:24:46] Jeff: Oh, wow.

[00:24:48] Brett: And they’ve had one in the past. I think they had one for like their 40th anniversary and it, it turned out to be kind of fun. Um, it’s like, it’s like poka [00:25:00] music when you live in Minnesota, you’re like, PO’s stupid. But then you go to a poker night and you have fun. It’s, it’s fun. So I think I can have fun at this square dance, but also I’m not, like right now I’m very uncomfortable with my like, physical shape and not feeling like getting out on a dance floor.

[00:25:19] Brett: So we’ll see what happens. I’m gonna try to be a really good sport about it cuz it means so much to my mom. That’s how they met with square Dancing

[00:25:28] Jeff: Oh my God. Wow.

[00:25:30] Christina: that’s kind of amazing.

[00:25:31] Brett: Yeah, that’s that. Thus the anniversary Square dance. But

[00:25:35] Christina: I was gonna say cuz that, that didn’t make any sense to me, but I

[00:25:38] Jeff: like, that’s random.

[00:25:40] Brett: Yeah, I kind of forgot about that.

[00:25:42] Christina: but I was also like not gonna like, Question it. I was just gonna be like, okay. You know? Cool.

[00:25:47] Brett: Yeah, that’s, that’s, that’s how my family rolls.

[00:25:52] Jeff: That’s amazing. Heel toe. Heel toe. Slide, slide, slide. That’s what I remember from Square dancing in gym

[00:25:56] Christina: Yeah, I, I was gonna say like, did you guys have the square dance in middle [00:26:00] school?

[00:26:00] Jeff: Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[00:26:03] Christina: Yep. That maybe that’s just like a

[00:26:04] Brett: Walts Foxtrot square dance. Yeah.

[00:26:08] Jeff: Man, you had to do that shit in Atlanta.

[00:26:10] Christina: Oh yeah. They would play these records, bow your partner, bow your corner,

[00:26:17] Jeff: Mm-hmm.

[00:26:18] Christina: know, stare and like go round and round. It was just terrible. Yeah.

[00:26:22] Brett: yep. Yeah, it’s, it’s even weirder when you have a live color for the square dance and they get very into it and they will like, call you up Personally. It, it gets weird, but, right. Should we do, uh, should we do a little sponsor block here?

[00:26:36] Jeff: Sure.

[00:26:36] Christina: should.

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[00:28:31] Brett: Thank you, Christina.

[00:28:33] Jeff: Woo.

[00:28:34] Brett: Round of applause. I don’t have a, I don’t have an applause. Sound effect loaded.

[00:28:39] Jeff: Um, I’ll take the next one.

[00:28:42] Brett: Rock on

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[00:31:34] Jeff: Oh, hallmark picked that up.

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[00:31:51] Brett: Um, so I gotta, I gotta offer a tech tip. Um, so I’ve been following, uh, Amazon’s early Black Friday [00:32:00] deals. And one thing that has popped up. So first one, terabyte, N V M A SSD cards popped up, uh, for like a hundred dollars per terabyte. And, uh, so I, I ordered four and I also ordered a new, uh, four M two enclosure from O W O wc, other world computing.

[00:32:25] Brett: Um, so that would give me a raid zero four terabyte SSD drive over Thunderbolt three that is as fast, almost as fast by internal hard drive. And then, and then Amazon lets me know that they have two terabyte drives for $150. Um, It adds up. You, you have four of those. You can do the math, but like that, that’s not a cheap hard drive, but that would give you eight terabytes of, with a right speed up to [00:33:00] 3,500 megabytes per megabytes per second.

[00:33:03] Brett: Um, it is a fantastic deal. So if you are looking for, if you’re doing video editing, audio editing, looking for something to, or any video work you’re doing, and you need a super fast external drive with some significant storage, check out Amazon Steels. I’ll link the, uh, the gold P three, P 31 SSDs, um, that I found from sk.

[00:33:30] Brett: He,

[00:33:31] Christina: Yeah, those are pretty good too. I have to say. Like they’re not as good as, um, like the western. Um, and uh, uh, Seagate have some that are like a little bit higher performing, but I have one of those P 31 s and it’s awesome.

[00:33:47] Brett: Yeah, I, uh, the first ones I ordered, I ordered four one terabyte Samsung SSD nine eighties. That I will probably send back now because I got those for like [00:34:00] 1 25 a piece, but now I can get two terabytes for one 50. So I’m gonna, I’m gonna trade up for like double, double the size for an extra 30 bucks.

[00:34:11] Brett: Sure.

[00:34:12] Jeff: rolling around in terabytes like they were dollar bills.