246: Cosmic Exhaustion

Overtired 246

Christina: [00:00:00] [00:00:00]You’re listening to overtired, but Terpstra is out because he had to get surgery or something. I don’t know. Faker. Anyway, I’m Christina Warren and I’m here with the amazing Ashlea Asqueda. Ashley, how are you?

[00:00:19] Ashley: [00:00:19] I just, I don’t know if there’s like, uh, maybe cosmic exhaustion, like w that’s I’m going to go ahead and upgrade this episode of overtired to cosmic exhaustion

[00:00:31] Christina: [00:00:31] Cosmic exhaustion. Okay. So that’s what the, that’s what the podcast is called for this episode. Welcome to welcome to cosmic exhaustion with Ashley and Christina.

[00:00:40] Ashley: [00:00:40] Yes. Yes. It’s just, just a, just a perpetual state of exhaustion. Just everything is exhausting, everything. It’s just like all the time. The internet is exhausting, Christina.

[00:00:54] Christina: [00:00:54] It’s exhausting. Okay. Talk to me about that. Like, what are some of the things that are leaving you? So [00:01:00] cosmic leaks.

[00:01:01] Ashley: [00:01:01] I think yesterday, I, you know, I think watching Jeff Bezos touch the edge of space, uh, you know, while we’ve got teachers who have Amazon wishlist full of stuff they need for the school year that Jeff Bezos could literally just fulfill out of pocket for nothing for literally. I mean, he would not even notice a

[00:01:23] Christina: [00:01:23] He wouldn’t even notice he’d get a tax write off.

[00:01:26] Ashley: [00:01:26] would get a tax write up, like, just like I saw at the end, like at the a hundred million dollar fund, whatever that’s fine. Like van Jones is already rich, so I don’t know what, who that helps. Like, I’m fine, but. I think it would have been better for Jeff Bezos to have. And I know that the reason that he did that was the optics of it, right?

[00:01:46] It’s like, oh, you’re spending all this money to like, fly your weird penis, rocket up into space. But it’s like, I knew you, he knew when he came back down, there would be the, the discourse, right? It’s like the [00:02:00] discourse of how much money he has versus the haves and haves nots and income inequality and all that stuff.

[00:02:05] So he knew he had to come back down and bring something. So he did that like big, oh, I’m, we’re going to give a hundred million dollars to certain, you know, conversation makers who are trying to make the world a better place, whatever.

[00:02:17] Christina: [00:02:17] blah, blah, blah.

[00:02:18] Ashley: [00:02:18] but really all he had to do was be like, if you’re a teacher and you qualify, you can submit.

[00:02:23] And he had how much time to work on this. Just so much time. He had it over a year that we knew this was happening for a long time months, at least. Um, and it’s not like he doesn’t have the money to throw at an accelerated development pace to say, if you’re a teacher submit your credentials. And if you are verified as it as an educator, Amazon is going to wipe out your wishlist and send everything you need to, to you for the school year up to a certain dollar amount, $5,000.

[00:02:59] What have [00:03:00] you? I don’t, I don’t know how much I’m not a teacher, so I don’t know how much money they would need every year, but I know it’s a significant enough amount of money that they need to put, put together an Amazon wishlist. So, um, so yeah, I think that would have been maybe more impactful. Like, I, it just feels like a thing.

[00:03:15] Like, I, I don’t know. I felt like, um, you know, it’s nice giving a hundred million dollars to one person, but why not? You know, instead of once, again, like this is an inequality, like thing, like why not just spread that a hundred million dollars out to all the teachers who have, you know, really significant wishlists and need them for the school year, especially with the pandemic, they have to get, you know, extra cleaning supplies and

[00:03:37] Christina: [00:03:37] Yeah.

[00:03:37] Ashley: [00:03:37] just so much extra stuff that they have to have that we are not providing them.

[00:03:41] Um, so I just feel like it’s, um, you know, good, good for you. Jeffrey Bezos.

[00:03:47] Christina: [00:03:47] Yeah,

[00:03:48] no, I agree with you. And the thing is, is that if he did that, that would have been such a huge PR win also for Amazon, because they could have been like, oh, well, you know, um, you know, cause you have to be an Amazon, [00:04:00] like it has to be an Amazon wishlist. Right. And, and we’re, we’re doing all this stuff where we’re helping people, you know, uh we’re we’re helping the teachers we’ll help him helping the community, whatnot.

[00:04:10] Like it really would’ve played well, like you’re, you’re dead on that would have been so much smarter. That

[00:04:15] Ashley: [00:04:15] a grant for an annual teachers. An annual teacher’s fund should be like every year. If you’re, if you’re a qualified teacher, you’re at your employment has been verified.

[00:04:25] Christina: [00:04:25] Yeah. Which they do anyway, I think with some of their, like their prime education and other like programs, like they have a way to verify it.

[00:04:32] Ashley: [00:04:32] They can do it. It’s Amazon has the money and the, and the, they have the manpower, the person power to do this, to, to verify employment.

[00:04:42] And every year they can do it every year. They can verify reverify employment every year. Comic-Con does it every year. So I think that they, I think Amazon can do it. I think it would be fine.

[00:04:50] Christina: [00:04:50] 100%. I mean, they could even go a step further. They wanted to be, I mean, this wouldn’t cover everybody, but it would be also kind of a boon for them. It’d be like, your school has [00:05:00] to register with Amazon.

[00:05:01] Ashley: [00:05:01] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:05:02] Christina: [00:05:02] Your school has to register with Amazon. Okay. You know what cool. Like that’s, that seems acceptable.

[00:05:07] Um, and so I don’t know. I feel like that’s a, that Would be a completely

[00:05:16] Ashley: [00:05:16] Would have been nice, right?

[00:05:17] Christina: [00:05:17] do. It would’ve been nice. I I’m with

[00:05:18] Ashley: [00:05:18] universe in a, in a post low-key, uh, branching timeline. It would have been a very nice nexus event for teachers.

[00:05:26] Christina: [00:05:26] That would have been a nice nexus advent, you know, we didn’t see a lot of that in Loki. Timelines where things seem to be better.

[00:05:35] Ashley: [00:05:35] Yeah. They’re all worse. Right. So is that the message everyone’s trying to send us? It’s like, Hey guys, like, um, maybe just accept this timeline because in all the other it’s so much worse and at least 50% of it.

[00:05:48] Christina: [00:05:48] But like, but that seems weird, right? Like that doesn’t seem,

[00:05:52] Ashley: [00:05:52] Yeah. Like where’s the C I, okay. Can we talk about the end of Loki? Are we allowed to do

[00:05:57] Christina: [00:05:57] Yeah, let’s totally talk about the end of, okay. Okay. Um, [00:06:00] listeners, if you wash low-key on Disney plus, and you haven’t caught up in the last couple of weeks, I will put in the show notes. What time you can listen to it again, but we’re going to now do get into split the time. So, so let’s, let’s talk about it.

[00:06:11] Ashley: [00:06:11] just, just really briefly. I like, I don’t think we have to get too deep into it and 2d paving into the spoilers, but it’s like, I think the end, basically, you know, the I’ll try to be vague the care that the character they encounter him and Sylvie encounter at the end, um, basically offers them everything they want, right.

[00:06:33] To the, oh, what, what can you, what can you possibly want? And the thing is, is I know that this is sort of like a low-key who, this is not the same low-key that went through all of the events of like infinity war. And that’s not, this is the loci that came from the end of the first Avengers. So he’s not really a good guy yet.

[00:06:57] And it seems like this transformation of him [00:07:00] to being this like, sort of, kind of good guy, they, they sort of leaned a little bit on, um, they leaned a little bit on, on the, the last

[00:07:08] Christina: [00:07:08] Yeah. The

[00:07:09] Ashley: [00:07:09] phase. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:10] Christina: [00:07:10] I know. Yeah, that you’re right. You’re right. ‘

[00:07:13] Ashley: [00:07:13] cause to dangle, like why not show him a world in which he rules show him that. Like, I want to see that I want to see that world, like you mentioned, like why don’t we see these things?

[00:07:24] And it’s like to see that would have been such an incredibly tempting thing for that. Low-key like for that Loki would have been such an incredibly temp tempting thing. And it felt like he didn’t even really, um, grapple with it for longer than a second. Right. Like, I know that it’s about his feelings about Sylvie and like, you know, he says in the, and he’s like, I just want you to be okay.

[00:07:44] Like that’s what he wants more than anything. It reminded me of, um, the mirror of era said from Harry Potter, like his greatest desire has now changed to see something different. Now it’s a Sylvie Sylvia’s stew, her being okay. Is, is his greatest wish.

[00:08:00] [00:07:59] Christina: [00:07:59] Yeah. Yeah,

[00:08:00] And I think that’s a good point. And it’s also, um, I mean, I think they tried to play off like his. Coming to terms and like becoming a better person by showing him, you know, uh, stuff about his mother and stuff in the future. And like, kind of like letting him go through that process. But you’re right.

[00:08:16] It was pretty fast. I was willing to give them a break for that because you know, six episodes, but you are correct in so far as like then by the end of the six episodes and the characterization, it’s like the writers forgot, oh, this is not the same loci from, um, uh, he wasn’t an end game. Um, what was, uh,

[00:08:36] Ashley: [00:08:36] Infinity war. I think, I think that you mentioned the whole, like, he sees his whole life, like his future life, like flash before his eyes, but for, you know, for all intent and purposes, that’s exactly what it is. Um, and he sees it, you know, the death of his mother and all this other stuff that he causes. So I do think that there is a.

[00:08:55] There is something to be said for like, having to experience that all in one, [00:09:00] like piece of info, like piece of information that’s like dropped on your head, like an anvil. Um, so yes, like I, I think that that could be enough potentially. Um, but I do think, I, I know watching it, like there were spots where I was like, I think the pandemic, uh, prevented this bit from being expanded upon and like, that was kind of a bummer.

[00:09:24] So it just felt like there were a couple of bit, a couple of pieces of the show that were not quite there. Of the pandemic and I know Falcon and the winter soldier, like they talked at length about it afterwards, where they were just like, you know, we had all these problems. We had to, like, I think they were in Prague.

[00:09:40] And then all of a sudden date, they, the lockdown started and they just had all gotten there. I think they’d been there for a week. And then they were like, oh, oh no, like we have to, we have to get out of here. Like we have to go home. Otherwise we may not be able to come home. And so they had to get like a hundred people back to the U S it’s like, it was a whole thing.

[00:09:59] I mean, it was really [00:10:00] tough. Um,

[00:10:01] Christina: [00:10:01] why it sucked.

[00:10:02] Ashley: [00:10:02] well, they, so they ended up having to build, if you guys, if anyone is listening and has not, um, We can, I think we can say like end of spoiler chat, right. It looks like

[00:10:11] Christina: [00:10:11] Yes. Yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah.

[00:10:13] Ashley: [00:10:13] time ten-ish minutes. Um, but if you haven’t seen the, um, the, uh, making of Falcon in winter soldier that behind the scenes show that, that they do on Disney plus they, they talk about, um, how they had to recreate parts of like Prague.

[00:10:28] And like, I think port was it, I forget the other, it was like, uh, it was somewhere else that they were also shooting. Um, and they had to kind of recreate a lot of that out just outside of Atlanta, like in the suburbs, which is wild to me like that they were able to do that. Like what a heavy lift.

[00:10:47] Christina: [00:10:47] Yeah. Also, like I grew up in the Atlanta suburbs and it does not look like Prague at all.

[00:10:52] Ashley: [00:10:52] No.

[00:10:52] Christina: [00:10:52] not even close. Um, so Yeah. I think I think that probably I, I was being facetious and that, was why it sucked. I think [00:11:00] it sucked for a lot of reasons, but I’m sure that didn’t help with the process at all.

[00:11:03] Ashley: [00:11:03] I think that, um, man, I, I, I really would have loved that as a movie, like black widow. I think it would have been a really nice movie or a longer TV show. I like, I don’t know. I w I liked it. I just didn’t. Um, I, I think the, I would have liked to have seen, um, just a little bit more, and I had an issue with one thing that they did at the end, where it was like, Bucky tells Sam he’s like, do the, do the work you have to learn.

[00:11:32] You have to like do or no, I’m sorry. Sam tells Bucky do the work. Like he’s like you had to do the work. And like, to me doing the work for Bucky would be actually sitting down and going to therapy. Like he literally like leaves his therapist. I was like, yeah, I don’t need you anymore. I’m done. I’m going to go do some work.

[00:11:48] I’m just like, wait, wait, wait, wait, come back.

[00:11:50] Christina: [00:11:50] Yeah, no, I think That’s fair. Um, I, think for me, the problem with Falcon winter soldier was that I thought one division was so good and it was not what I expected from a Disney plus [00:12:00] Marvel show. And then talking to winter soldier, it was exactly what I expected from, uh, from, uh, you know, um, Disney plus Marvel show.

[00:12:06] And I was just like, really? There’s nothing here. Um,

[00:12:09] Ashley: [00:12:09] I, I liked it.

[00:12:10] Christina: [00:12:10] interesting show and then we had the.

[00:12:12] Ashley: [00:12:12] I, think, um, one of the things that, uh, has seemed very polarizing online is the, uh, the whole, like people either really like, or really don’t like some of these shows. And I think a big part of it is, uh, at least from a couple of friends, um, anecdotally is that they, they’re not, they’re not, they’re expecting a certain thing and they get something else.

[00:12:36] So like you were saying, like, I think a lot of people were hoping, Wanda vision, if they have the opposite problem you did where they were like, nah, one division. I don’t really like it because it’s not what I expected from an MCU property. And then, and then, you know, then Falcon in the winter, soldier come out, like, this is exactly what I want.

[00:12:51] Like, oh man, it’s action packed. It’s really fun. And you know, And so I, but I do think that, um, you know, the MCU [00:13:00] is a, is a rolling stone that, that has no Moss testing. It grows no Moss. It’s just continually moving building. Um, it is, it is quite literally like playing a game of Fortnite. Like they’re just like building, building, building like action all the time.

[00:13:14] Like it’s always building towards something. And so I, I do think that. Some, I think people used to a traditional TV model where, you know, you have your, just your typical season of television or, or a single season, or like a limited series. I think that is its own X set of expectations. And then you have the MCU expectations and then you have the expectation of keep moving, keep moving, keep moving, keep setting up the next thing.

[00:13:46] And so it’s, it’s a lot of spinning plates. I think there’s a lot of spinning plates. It’s tough. It’s I, I can’t imagine being a part of the creative brain trust of Marvel studios. Like it just seems, it [00:14:00] seems like a lot. I mean, it seems, I mean, it seems really fun. I would love to be in that, you know, that that variety should act where you’re literally spinning 5,000 plates all at one time.

[00:14:09] Like that’s kind of amazing. Um, but, uh, but yeah, it’s, it seems like it’s, it’s really hard to, to kind of do that. Please all audiences or all expectations.

[00:14:21] Christina: [00:14:21] Well, I think that’s the thing is, is trying to, and I just was really hot on the mic there. I think that’s the thing I think trying to please all the audiences has got to be really hard, especially when you are by definition, pretty much kind of going for the most broad audience thing possible. Uh, because these are as Martin scores, as you said.

[00:14:38] And I, people got mad at him, but he was completely right. They are like cookie cutter. They are like a very much like assembly line, like made in like a factory. System model like they are that’s, that’s not, I don’t

[00:14:50] Ashley: [00:14:50] Well, I mean, there’s a reason they’re insanely popular is because they’re, they, they work for everybody and it’s like, it’s,

[00:14:56] Christina: [00:14:56] Yeah.

[00:14:56] exactly. And so you need to be kind of as broad as possible.

[00:14:59] That was why [00:15:00] I personally really liked one division and I also liked low-key, but especially one division, because I felt like it was not what I expected. It wasn’t as dark as Jessica Jones on Netflix. Um, but it was a lot deeper and a lot more interesting than I expected. And it, it didn’t follow. I mean, they had some of the same tropes and like the tried, but the, the finale to kind of do some of the normal Marvel stuff, but it was not the typical MCU thing at all, which is why I thought the finale was actually the weakest point of the series, but I thought it was really strong and, um, why I was glad I got nominated for so many MAs, but, um, Yeah.

[00:15:39] but, but I think that that’s, um, but that’s a good point about Loki, just about the fact that, uh, The characterization.

[00:15:46] Wasn’t quite what we’d come to expect.

[00:15:49] Ashley: [00:15:49] Yeah. And I, I do. Okay. That’s the other thing, I think we all expected a single season, right? So we all wanted it

[00:15:55] Christina: [00:15:55] actually a good point

[00:15:56] Ashley: [00:15:56] wrapped up with a bow and we didn’t. We got to, now we’re getting a second [00:16:00] season. So

[00:16:00] Christina: [00:16:00] getting a second season,

[00:16:01] Ashley: [00:16:01] traditional TV now, so we can call locate traditional TV. It, it ended exactly as a television series should, which is on a great cliffhanger that answered a lot of questions, but didn’t like if they had

[00:16:13] Christina: [00:16:13] up a whole bunch of new ones.

[00:16:14] Ashley: [00:16:14] Exactly. Exactly. So I think, I thought it was very effective for what it wants to be and what it is. I think it’s very, uh,

[00:16:21] Christina: [00:16:21] Oh, I agree. No, I thought I thought Loki was good. I’m definitely going to watch the second one.

[00:16:25] Ashley: [00:16:25] Yeah.

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[00:18:00] [00:18:00] Okay. So, um, watching any other TV right now, um, Ted lasso is coming out this Friday. Do you have screeners? I don’t have screen.

[00:18:09] Ashley: [00:18:09] I don’t have screeners. I’m very sad. I don’t have screeners, I’m bummed. Um, but also it’s one of those things where sometimes I’m grateful for not having screeners because I’ll just binge the whole thing. And then, and then where are we? You know, and then it’s over and I’m just.

[00:18:26] Christina: [00:18:26] Yeah. No, that’s a good point. I hate that. But at the same time, I’m muscly. Really? I want to know, uh,

[00:18:31] Ashley: [00:18:31] I know.

[00:18:32] Christina: [00:18:32] I think they only gave, it looks like they gave the press the first eight of Paul’s episodes, at least based, according to the reviews, Everybody seems positive. so far. Everybody’s like, cause everybody’s like cautiously optimistic.

[00:18:42] They’re like,

[00:18:43] Ashley: [00:18:43] You know, what other reviews came out today that are extremely positive

[00:18:49] Christina: [00:18:49] That’s what I’m saying. I read them and I was like, okay. I was trying, I was even trying not to spoil myself too much. I just wanted to be like, it’s still good. Right. And they’re like, yeah. it’s still good.

[00:18:58] Ashley: [00:18:58] Yeah. That’s I, that’s how I feel about, um, [00:19:00] psycho nuts too, has a bunch of previews like extended previews. And I’m like, I’m not going to read these. I can’t, I can’t, I want to be surprised next month. Like I gotta, I gotta be ready, but, um, you know, what else got really good? Uh, advanced screening reviews is the new He-Man animated series that Kevin Smith one is getting rave reviews from.

[00:19:18] Literally everyone I’ve seen this morning in my timeline that reviewed it.

[00:19:21] Christina: [00:19:21] Interesting. You know

[00:19:23] Ashley: [00:19:23] it captures the heart of the original and somehow, uh, also adds stakes, which I did not think was possible, but apparently when you’re a He-Man super fan, like Kevin Smith, you can in fact do that. So, um, yeah. Pretty cool,

[00:19:38] Christina: [00:19:38] I’m excited about that. And that was when the boiler wasn’t on my radar. Like I, I re I vaguely kind of remember He-Man like I had a He-Man toy that I really liked. But I, you know, it, wasn’t one of those like essential parts of my childhood. So, um, I didn’t really care one way or another, but I am glad to hear that.

[00:19:57] It’s good. And he, he does [00:20:00] seem like he would be the right guy of anybody

[00:20:01] Ashley: [00:20:01] Yeah.

[00:20:02] Christina: [00:20:02] do it.

[00:20:03] Ashley: [00:20:03] Yeah, I think so. I was a huge He-Man kid. Like I loved He-Man when I was a kid

[00:20:10] Christina: [00:20:10] Yeah,

[00:20:10] Ashley: [00:20:10] around yelling. Like I have the power,

[00:20:12] Christina: [00:20:12] have. I, maybe I did. It’s just, I was so little that I, like I remember it, but it was just this, one of those things that’s kind of faded into time, I guess it’s also, it’s like transformers, you know, there are these things that were like created to sell toys and some of it like lives better in your right.

[00:20:30] And sometimes it’s like, it. holds a better in your memory then, you know, actually, you know, like what.

[00:20:36] Ashley: [00:20:36] Yes. Oh, it’s terrible. I mean, that’s, I think we can all agree. It’s it’s all bad, but it’s it’s, you know, but it, it, I respect it for the way it made me feel at the time. Right. Like that’s, that’s the way I choose to look back at it.

[00:20:52] Christina: [00:20:52] yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:53] I think, I think, um, so as I’m looking forward to that, so no, that’s interesting that people like that because people can go either way with him too, you know? [00:21:00] And, and so that, that’s the fact that you saw everybody being positive. That’s a good sign.

[00:21:05] Ashley: [00:21:05] Yeah, everybody. I mean, my whole timeline this morning, just full of people. It’s this is great. It’s an excellent con continuation. Like, I mean just, yeah, lots of complimentary reviews about it. So now I’m more excited than I was, which I was like, oh, I’ll check that out. Like I was, I was interested. Um, what does that, what does that mean?

[00:21:24] The Leo DiCaprio mean, uh, you know, now you have my attention,

[00:21:28] Christina: [00:21:28] you have my attention, Yeah.

[00:21:30] Ashley: [00:21:30] now you have my attention. So you piqued my curiosity, but now you have my attention. That’s I mean, I’m into it now. I’m going to watch it.

[00:21:37] Christina: [00:21:37] Yeah, Yeah. I, um, I’ll, I, I definitely like, I’m not, I’m not going to say that I’m going to watch it, but it’s definitely higher on the prob probability that I’ll watch versus where it was before. That’s definitely

[00:21:49] Ashley: [00:21:49] same, same. So, I mean, I’m, I’m gonna, I’ll check it out for

[00:21:52] Christina: [00:21:52] Yeah,

[00:21:52] Ashley: [00:21:52] What are you, so what are you, so we don’t have screeners. We have no screeners for anything. So what are we actually watching now?

[00:22:01] [00:22:00] Christina: [00:22:01] Uh, um, I just finished physical and uh, I thought that was really good.

[00:22:06] Ashley: [00:22:06] As a tough watch, but

[00:22:07] Christina: [00:22:07] That was a tough watch. Yeah, it was, but it was, it was good.

[00:22:09] She’s just really.

[00:22:11] Ashley: [00:22:11] She really is amazing. Just amazing. Um, I’ve been watching, this is really, uh, two things. I’ve been like checking out spycraft on Netflix, which is about like the history of like spy. Every episode is dedicated to like a different aspect of espionage. And so they do like, you know, um, gadgets, they do like listening devices than they do, um, in coding, like encryption type stuff where they talk about.

[00:22:41] Yeah. Like, so each episode is like a different type of, or different aspect of espionage. Um, they do like, not the femme fatale, but they’re like, oh, and then there’s like the, you know, the, the spies who use like sex to get information. And like, they’re like, it’s, it’s really fascinating and very [00:23:00] well-made.

[00:23:00] Um, and then another docu series. We like ducky series in this

[00:23:03] Christina: [00:23:03] I liked, yeah, I liked them too.

[00:23:05] Ashley: [00:23:05] We’re watching the, uh, the Paul McCartney thing on Hulu. Um, I think it’s called 3, 2, 1 with Rick Rubin, Purdue, uh, you know, iconic producer, Rick Rubin, uh, where they go through. Uh, so a lot of the Beatles catalog, but they’re also now going through some of Paul’s catalog with wings and stuff like that.

[00:23:24] Um, but they go through the songs and they are listening to like the actual, like studio masters. And he talks about like how, how they came to be, what, like little stories about them, like how the melodies came up, like where they found certain sounds really fascinating if you love music. But also, I mean, if you love the Beatles, if you love music, if you love making songs by yourself, like, I mean, it’s just really good.

[00:23:48] And so well-produced, and just terribly fascinating and, and it’s so simple, like the series is all very simple. Um, but so effective, really, really good.

[00:23:58] Christina: [00:23:58] that’s a really, really interesting, [00:24:00] okay. I didn’t even know this was this, this was a thing. Um,

[00:24:02] Ashley: [00:24:02] out. So it just came out. It’s

[00:24:04] Christina: [00:24:04] All right. Well, cause I love him. Um, who doesn’t I think if you don’t like, there’s something wrong with you, honestly. Um, but I also love Rick Rubin, so I’m excited about that.

[00:24:14] Ashley: [00:24:14] It’s really, really good. I it’s. Um, and it’s, it’s multiple episodes. It’s not just like a one-hour documentary. It’s like, they go, they start with like earlier Beatles songs they go through. And like, he was talking about how they, how they came up with the idea of Sergeant pepper and like, and, uh, like on last night’s episode, they were talking about, um, being inspired by the beach boys and like pet sounds.

[00:24:36] And they’re like, we heard pet sounds and we’re like, whoa, we gotta, we gotta up our game. Like, basically I was just like, oh wow, we got up our game. And then, and then they, in response to that album, they made Sergeant Pepper’s lonely hearts club band, which is like, incredible. And then that, that, that was the response.

[00:24:52] Like, it’s just amazing to me. It’s just like, oh yeah, we gotta make something better. So we’re going to make like one of the most iconic albums of all time too. Like, that’s fine. [00:25:00] And then, uh, It’s just, but it was really interesting to hear him. He just said, he’s like very candid, just talking about all this stuff and he’s playing music and he’s like, he’s playing the piano.

[00:25:09] And he talks about like the way the bass comes in. Like it’s, it’s really good. And so, so interesting.

[00:25:16] Christina: [00:25:16] Okay. I’m excited about this now. I love him. And, and I love hearing like musicians and people talk about their craft and he’s always been pretty open about it, which is pretty cool. I always think about how terrible it is that we didn’t get to. But apparently they used to always announce, like when SNL was first on the year, they would like joke that the Beatles were going to, we’re going to perform like, oh, we, we ran out of time or whatever.

[00:25:39] And, and that he and John were like watching one night and like, we’re talking to them to go, should we just go down there? we just go down to 30 rock and just show up and, and play. And, and they decided not to, but like, it. was something you’d actually considered in like 1975 or whatever.

[00:25:55] Ashley: [00:25:55] Oh, wouldn’t that have been just like the best thing ever.

[00:25:59] Christina: [00:25:59] I mean, it would have been [00:26:00] amazing. It, you know, um, it, it sucks that didn’t happen, but I also kind of love that. Like they, they at least thought about it.

[00:26:09] Ashley: [00:26:09] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I was in that position, I think I definitely think about it too. Right.

[00:26:14] Christina: [00:26:14] I would hope so. I think that I would, um, uh, I don’t know. I think it depends. I think it depends, like, I think I definitely would, but I could also understand why there would be people who’d be like, yeah. You know, I’m kind of done with all this stuff. Don’t.

[00:26:28] Ashley: [00:26:28] That’s fair. I mean, and it was late at that point for the Beatles. And so I could see where they would be like, no,

[00:26:35] Christina: [00:26:35] I mean, I mean, they were, they were over, but I guess they were like in a good mental place.

[00:26:38] Ashley: [00:26:38] There were, there were, there were, uh, talking at that point. They were did there. They were friends at

[00:26:43] Christina: [00:26:43] Yeah. I was going to say, I mean, that that’s that’s that I think would probably be the most important thing is like, are we, um, like speaking to each other or not? And I was like, Yeah. we’re

[00:26:51] Ashley: [00:26:51] Um, but yeah, um, that’s really what I’m watching right now. Like we’re not gonna like, look he’s over. We saw, you know, we watched black widow. That was awesome. That [00:27:00] was really good. We loved that. Um, but yeah, I just, I’ve actually been playing a lot of games,

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[00:29:31] Ashley: [00:29:31] games, games, games, games, uh, I’m playing the new Skyward sword, uh, remake on switch they’ve legend of Zelda. They’re nuts, not new, the old legend of Zelda, Skyward, sword remake, uh, on switch, which is very nice. Um, and then I also just picked up, uh, it’s kind of like a twist on J RPGs called Chris tales. It’s gorgeous.

[00:29:56] Um, I haven’t played a ton of it, but, uh, I [00:30:00] started it, uh, yesterday it came out yesterday, so it’s brand new and it looks, I mean, really, it looks stunning. And then, um, I also picked up death’s door. I don’t know if you’ve heard of this scale. It’s man, everyone I know who likes indie games. I really like indie games.

[00:30:17] So, uh, if you love indie games, this game is about, um, You’re a CRO you work, you work in the afterlife with other crows, like as a business and you have to go collect souls, CRO collect souls, and you have to go get this one big soul and then it gets taken away. So the whole story starts, but, uh, yeah, you work with a bunch of crows in the afterlife to collect people’s souls and stuff.

[00:30:42] So it’s a terribly good. And, um, I highly recommend it and I want to say right now, it’s like, it’s like 16 bucks on the Microsoft store. It’s not expensive. It’s under $20. I think it’s on sale right now, but it, but once it is not [00:31:00] on sale, it will be 20 bucks. So it’s not an expensive game. Um, I would say Skyward sword is a full $60 game.

[00:31:07] Uh, so be sure you want to. Like, don’t be, I would say if you’re not a hundred percent on it, watch some Twitch streams, like, you know, make sure you want to spend your, your hard earned cash. Uh, but yeah, that’s what I’m playing right now. And then, you know, I, I’m still beating my head against the returnal, which, you know, I’m I’m good, man.

[00:31:26] They really need a save feature. And I, I’m sad to say that cause I love it, but I can’t save. So, and some of these runs now because I’m in later areas are taking hours and I just don’t have the time to sit down and like really commit to a huge play session most of the time. So, and it’s like, I can’t play until late, late, late at night in return because you get sloppy and that’s when, as soon as you start making mistakes, you’re gets over.

[00:31:51] Like you get one run, you get one life, one run, that’s it. So, uh, yeah, you can’t, can’t be sloppy. And um, and so yeah, return has been tough to, [00:32:00] uh, to get time with. Um, and I can’t really play until my kid goes to sleep, which is out seven at night. So once I am done eating dinner, I’m looking at a run that might take me into like, you know, midnight, one o’clock in the morning, just one run, one good run could take me, you know, three to three to four hours.

[00:32:17] So, huh. Yeah. And it’s just, you know, so I’ve kind of back and forth on that. I’m playing ratchet and clank too, which is just delightful.

[00:32:26] Christina: [00:32:26] So we’re trying to like, is that a design decision like that they don’t want to save