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Christina: [00:00:00] [00:00:00] You are listening to overtired. I’m Christina Warren. He’s Brett Terpstra. How are you doing Brett?

[00:00:09] Brett: [00:00:09] I am. I am so tired. I feel like that should be our theme song. Oh, wait. It is.

[00:00:16] Christina: [00:00:16] Oh, wait. It is.

[00:00:16] you did you made that our theme song? So tell me what’s been, what’s going on.

[00:00:21] Brett: [00:00:21] Oh, meetings, meetings, meetings. And it’s not like I have to pay a lot of attention in about half of them are only tangentially related to me at this point, but I have to be there. Uh, and so there’s still like that energy drain of. Of looking good on camera. Um, it I’ll get used to it. I swear. I will like, I, this is just my life now and I have to deal with it.

[00:00:47]Christina: [00:00:47] Makes sense. Um, I, uh, I don’t, I’m trying to think of one point of the pandemic. I just stopped turning my like camera on. Um, but it did. [00:01:00] get to that point, for sure, for me,

[00:01:01] Brett: [00:01:01] I tried that I felt guilty because like out of 20 people in the meeting, I was one of only two that didn’t turn their camera

[00:01:11] Christina: [00:01:11] Right. No, see that’s always, the weird thing is like, what’s the social, like stigma on.

[00:01:15] this stuff. And I’m always like, ah, like, yeah.

[00:01:19] Brett: [00:01:19] I am the only person in those large meetings with a messy office, like my

[00:01:24] Christina: [00:01:24] Oh, I hate that shit too.

[00:01:26] Brett: [00:01:26] On camera. It is clear that I work in the basement and it is, it’s not a disaster, but I would call it cozy for an ADHD person it’s cozy. Um, everyone else has the sterile white background sometimes with artwork and plants and I’m like, shit, I can’t compete with that

[00:01:46] Christina: [00:01:46] I know I look at that too. I look at that too. And I’m like, yeah, bro, blur filter.

[00:01:50] put in some other things. Sometimes I just turn it off. Cause I’m like, I don’t want you to see the mess that I’m in, that I’m trying to do. I’m like, I’m trying to get my office in a good place, but this is one of the many things I hate [00:02:00] about like the current remote culture we’re in.

[00:02:02] And like, I know you’ll always be from home, but now there’s this weird. But like before, like when more people are in the office, if you do have the person who’s remote. Like, you’re not staring at them necessarily. Like you don’t feel on display even if you’re the person who’s calling in, because you’ve got a bunch of people in a conference room it’s just, it’s different.

[00:02:21] And now it’s like, Oh, I have to have my camera on. And I do I need to have makeup or can I not? Or do I. You know, have to like have my background clear or like, what if they see that I’m in a kitchen someplace? You know what I mean? Like it’s just, there’s, there’s all these politics around like showing off your place.

[00:02:39] And I’m like, I don’t get paid enough to buy a house, to have room to, you know, do a lot of these things. So it’s Yeah.

[00:02:47] Brett: [00:02:47] There’s one guy who’s like, he’s like a manager on our team and he always shows up, uh, On screen on a treadmill. So he has like a treadmill desk, I assume, but he, [00:03:00] like, he spends the whole call bobbing up and down a little bit. And it’s comforting. Like I keep thinking I’m going to break out my treadmill desk and we’ll just be like treadmill bros.

[00:03:10] But, um, and there’s one woman who. Who clearly, like she has kids running around in the background. And so if you have kids running around in the background, like any mess that’s there, it kind of becomes forgivable. I think socially and hers isn’t even messy. So good on her. Congratulations.

[00:03:29] Christina: [00:03:29] Good for her. No, see, this is the problem. Right. Is a lot of the stuff it’s like, just, I’m like, I don’t have the excuses and I’m like, but I don’t want to be shamed. Like my house is my house. Like I live in a small, you know, I live in a two bedroom apartment, you know, I have like 980 square feet or something like that, which I guess isn’t small, but it’s small compared to a lot of people who have houses and more room and things like that.

[00:03:50] And, and you know, we’re not hoarders, but we do have clutter. And so I’m just like, I don’t. Yeah.

[00:03:57] Brett: [00:03:57] have a house and I have [00:04:00] an office. I have my own bedroom. I there’s a kitchen. There’s a shared living space. Uh it’s I mean, it’s, it’s a two story. Oh, well it’s like one story and a basement. Um, it’s a ranch. So there is no place in my house that has a clear wall. Like there is no place I can go to when I was trying to take my photo for the security badge.

[00:04:26] I couldn’t find a clean wall to take a security badge photo against if it’s not cluttered than it has wall hangs and photos and things on it there. And like yoga class, sometimes we go up against the wall and do handstands and stuff. I can’t do that at home. I have to like take pictures off the wall just to find a place to put my feet.

[00:04:46] Christina: [00:04:46] Yeah, I have main screen that it’s not mounted, but that I’m going to Mount that. I’m trying to use it. I’m going to. So I could Mount it to the ceiling. The ceiling is too high, so I’m going to like Mount it above the closet so I can pull it down and then have a green screen if I could use for purposes like that.

[00:05:00] [00:05:00] But it’s frustrating. Cause I’m like, I’m trying to turn my office into like an office slash studio slash all these other things and I’m like,

[00:05:06] Brett: [00:05:06] I just ordered one of those green screens that fits on the back of your chair,

[00:05:11] Christina: [00:05:11] Oh cool.

[00:05:11] Brett: [00:05:11] big light, it puts like a haloed green screen around you. I’m hoping I can make that work. Then I don’t have to clean my office because I’m

[00:05:19] Christina: [00:05:19] I know. That would be great.

[00:05:20] Brett: [00:05:20] it’s, it’s messy on when you see it compared to everyone else’s sterile.

[00:05:25] Rooms, but I am in no way motivated to change my office. I really like it the way it is. I’m like, I’m not ashamed of it. I just feel like there’s this standard that I’m supposed to live up to in a zoom call.

[00:05:40] Christina: [00:05:40] Right. No, I feel the same way. And I really, I hate it. I hate it so much. I’m like, can we just not do this? Like, I just would prefer us not to have this, this whole thing right now. Like, can we just put, like, I don’t know this performative stuff, I’m not a fan. I know that a lot of people are, but I’m like this underscores the fact that [00:06:00] at least in our profession, Even though we get paid a lot of money, you know, like comparatively for stuff.

[00:06:09] In many cases, it’s still not enough money to be a homeowner. And even if you are a homeowner, like working from home sucks, just it can have good aspects to it. But when everybody has to be on video and you have to do all the prestige, so I’m just, I’m not a fan. Like I, I miss the office.

[00:06:24] Brett: [00:06:24] I do not share that. I absolutely love being a homeworker a homebody, but

[00:06:33] Christina: [00:06:33] yeah.

[00:06:33] but you’ve done it for a long time, but it’s a different thing. And I think it’s also different. Like when you take a job and it’s under the context that it’s a remote job versus when you take a job and it’s not, and then it changes and you’re like, okay, like, I, You know, cause I also had my own office at Microsoft, so that was nice too.

[00:06:52] So yeah, it’s just, I’m not, I don’t, I don’t love it. It’s fine. It is what it is. It’s just,

[00:06:58] Brett: [00:06:58] You

[00:06:58] Christina: [00:06:58] yeah.

[00:06:58] Brett: [00:06:58] awesome about my [00:07:00] job though.

[00:07:01] Christina: [00:07:01] What’s that.

[00:07:02] Brett: [00:07:02] They want to convert like all of their content, documentation, uh, all their like public facing, uh, like dev REL content over to markdown. And,

[00:07:15] Christina: [00:07:15] Oh, wow. Heck yeah.

[00:07:16] Brett: [00:07:16] and I’m their guy. Like I remember this came up in the interview, but then I forgot that, like, by the time I actually got the job, cause there was like a month of waiting.

[00:07:26] I actually forgot what the job requirements were. All I could remember is thinking, Oh, I can totally do that, but I couldn’t remember what, so now it’s coming back up and, uh, my manager is in Rome and he S he pronounces Mark down like Mack down. And it took me a while to figure out what we were talking about.

[00:07:47] But once I did I’m super psyched. Like I get to convert like, HTML R S T uh, like restructured text and, uh, various other formats all into markdown. And that is [00:08:00] that’s where I shine. That’s like my bag.

[00:08:02] Christina: [00:08:02] No. I was going to say like this whole thing, this is, this is 100, like you were the right man for the job. Like if that’s all they wanted you to do, which obviously you’re going to be doing a lot more than that, but it, that was it. Like they would have hired the most correct person that they could have had, you know,

[00:08:16] Brett: [00:08:16] My first actual project though, is writing blurbs. That will be part of like an overview page. With, uh, you know, on AWS, it w if you log, if you’re like click up in the, uh, search bar, you have, you’ve used AWS. Right.

[00:08:36] Christina: [00:08:36] Oh, yeah,

[00:08:36] Brett: [00:08:36] And it brings down that panel with like all 100 services for like route 53 and EDC.

[00:08:42] Christina: [00:08:42] Yup.

[00:08:43] Brett: [00:08:43] um, like it’s basically a screen like that.

[00:08:46] And every service there’s almost 90 of them has to have what they, they co they want something clever. But right now, I’m just struggling to actually understand, [00:09:00] like, I’ll get it. It’ll, it’ll be like a compute bare metal and that’s all I’ll have to go on. So then I have to go look up like what this service is to Oracle.

[00:09:09] So I can not only understand it, but be clever about it. It’s an intro, but it’s a great immersion. Like I’m learning a lot about the company very quickly here.

[00:09:21] Christina: [00:09:21] No. I went through a similar thing when I joined the, uh, You, know, Azure is, is, I was like, I had to do some fundamentals, videos and stuff, and I had to do like a walkthrough of the, um, like. Uh, portal. And I was like, I don’t know what a lot of this stuff is. And so it was one of those things where I was like having to figure out, okay, does this, how does this like, relate to?

[00:09:44] And we actually have like internally we have stuff that compares like what some of our services are compared to like AWS, for instance. But there were some other things that like, didn’t fit with that. And it’s one of those things it’s like, okay, I have to figure out like what all this stuff does and what it means.

[00:09:58] And it’s a really good way of like, [00:10:00] learning. What your stuff is really quickly when you have to either write documentation or my case, like it was it similar thing. I didn’t have to write documentation. I had to build the tutorials and I had to do like the portal videos and some other stuff. And I was like, I don’t know what this stuff is.

[00:10:11] So now I’m going to have to figure it out. Cause I have to create content for it. It was a really good way to get started.

[00:10:16] Brett: [00:10:16] You, I know for a fact that you are better at like sitting down and learning that stuff than I am though. Like I get so overwhelmed so fast and like reading for comprehension is not my strong point.

[00:10:31]Christina: [00:10:31] Yeah. I’m not bad at that. Um, but the problem is, is that sometimes you can go into little tangents, like, Oh, you read something, then you try it out and then you go into. A rabbit hole on that. And, and it, you know, waste some time and sustained focus is sometimes the issue. So a lot of times what I’ll do when I’m learning stuff is I keep, you know, a list of links, like usually a Mark down list of links.

[00:10:52] And I try to create like a favorite soldier or whatever, or, you know, do something in Pinboard or someplace else and, and habit. So I have my resources so I can, you know, go to [00:11:00] later, but, um, our issue in, and I’m sure this is the same case with, with, uh, Oracle. Cause it’s the same case with every company is that we will have documentation.

[00:11:09] Within the documentation stuff for different things that will exist in multiple places. So, you know, because one team put it in one place, one team, put it in another. And so, you know, you wind up finding one bit of really useful information. You’re like, well, this should be linked here, but it’s not, but I found it through this link and it doesn’t land on this landing page and it’s not cross-referenced here, but it should be, you know?

[00:11:28] And so you wind up having to kind of create your own, own weird little like nest of where you’ve figured stuff out.

[00:11:35] Brett: [00:11:35] I’ll take that to the next level and say they gave me. Three different lists of services to write blurbs about, uh, ostensibly these were three different ways of seeing the same information. I converted them all into a list that I could diff the no two of those have the same names for the services. [00:12:00] Or existing descriptions.

[00:12:02] Like they are all, it’s three completely different lists as if they came from three different companies. And so like the first step, the last three days has just been trying to figure out what the canonical list of services is.

[00:12:16] Christina: [00:12:16] Right. Yes, no I, yup. Yup. Um, I haven’t had to do that exact thing, but we’ve run into, I’ve run into similar things over the year. Like when I’ve started. I actually think that the first product that I was working on when I joined Microsoft, which doesn’t exist anymore, there was. Um, there was a thing where you had to go through and we had to find like a listing of all of the stuff that existed, like all of the courses that existed on this platform.

[00:12:44] And we thought that we had a canonical list. We did not. And we had to kind of go through and like figure out where it was and then do an audit of what their links were and like what their dates were when they last been updated. Like there was all this stuff. And just getting to that point where we had like a canonical list of like all the things that were on [00:13:00] the platform was.

[00:13:01] More difficult than it should have been, but that was by virtue of the fact that there were three different management systems and two different builds systems for where the content was managed. It was, yeah, it was a lot.

[00:13:13] Brett: [00:13:13] I have a going back to the research thing. I have a tip for our listeners. And maybe you, have you ever gotten into the browser plugin where Kona.

[00:13:24] Christina: [00:13:24] I have not, although you have introduced it to me and told me how good it is, I’ve tried to get into it, but I have not been able to get into

[00:13:33] Brett: [00:13:33] Like if I, so I sit down and I want to start, you know, researching services and I know I’m going to be finding a bunch of links. I basically just open a new window. Give it, uh, give, give my like tap group a name. And then every tab that I opened becomes part of that group. And then I can just close that group and come back to it.

[00:13:51] Anytime it’s a tab manager, but it’s super, super slick. Super cool. I love where Kona. I’ve probably mentioned it [00:14:00] on this show before, but I honestly, I, I wouldn’t be able to work without it.

[00:14:07] Christina: [00:14:07] Yeah, that’s a, well, I mean, I’m glad that you don’t have to. I’m glad that you have that in your repertoire, so to speak,

[00:14:13] Brett: [00:14:13] I wonder if it’s actually pronounced work, Ana like work on this and work on that. I don’t know. Um, I really, that would be, uh, just poor spelling if that’s the case, but, um, speaking of day jobs, uh, I don’t have time to cook lunch anymore. And, uh, that’s I get, so I do the intermittent fasting thing, so I don’t eat until noon, but if I don’t eat at noon, things get ugly.

[00:14:42] Uh, and that means most days like a peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, my lunch, which isn’t great for me, but a ritual. Our our, our long time sponsor, the vitamin manufacturers, uh, just came out with a protein powder that I have been [00:15:00] using and loving. Can I tell you about it?

[00:15:03] Christina: [00:15:03] Please do cause they sent this to me, but it arrived literally as I was flying out to see my nephew. So I haven’t.

[00:15:09] been able to try it yet. So please tell me about it.

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[00:15:55] That’s a pun because you shake it up, you get it, you get it. Um, yeah. [00:16:00] So now that I’m super busy taking the time to cook lunch has been pretty much impossible. Uh, I’ve been using ritual as a meal replacement, which I asked them, can I use this as a meal replacement? And they said, yes, that’s what we made it for.

[00:16:14] Um, so I get the protein that I need and I don’t feel hungry. And I get the nutrition that otherwise we’d take some careful meal planning that once again, I don’t have time for, uh, having used some meal replacement products in the past. Uh, you know, that I I’ve always, uh, I’ve loved my meal replacement, but I can tell you that essential protein actually tastes great.

[00:16:35] Not just in comparison to others. Like it’s seriously just tasty. I’ve used like pea protein in the past, which is what they did. And somehow they made it work. Uh, but pea protein, you can’t mask that flavor. I don’t care how much. Peanut butter and banana. You add to it. It still tastes bitter and awful. So props to ritual for making this work.

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[00:18:33] Christina: [00:18:33] That’s awesome. That’s awesome. Thank you ritual. And I’m, I’m, I’m excited to try this out when I get home, because I am in a similar situation where I sometimes don’t have time to take, to eat lunch or more accurately. I forget. So this is exciting. Yep.

[00:18:49] Brett: [00:18:49] you get like three back to back meetings and it’s really easy to forget other than like your raging headache that you haven’t eaten lunch.

[00:18:56] Christina: [00:18:56] 100%, although we’re pretty good. I also see that [00:19:00] this is the hard thing, cause I bet most people on your team are working West coast hours. So we usually don’t have, um, meetings during like 12 to one o’clock so that makes it easier. But yeah, since you’re two hours ahead. Yeah.

[00:19:16] Brett: [00:19:16] I, we, we, we, uh, most of the us part of the team is West coast. So we rarely had meetings before 10:00 AM my time, which is great. Cause I go to yoga three times a week and it’s usually goes till about eight 45. And I haven’t had to change that except for my manager is in Italy. And he was super excited to find out that I was two hours ahead of California, because that means he didn’t have to stay up till like 8:00 PM to have a meeting.

[00:19:48] So he’s been scheduling stuff at like seven 45 in the morning. He scheduled one for seven 15, and I had to say, no, that’s too early.

[00:19:56] Christina: [00:19:56] Yeah, which I think is fair. I think you can be like, yeah, look, I’m, I’m [00:20:00] really glad that I’m earlier than you’re used to, but

[00:20:03] Brett: [00:20:03] very understanding.

[00:20:04] Christina: [00:20:04] Yeah.

[00:20:06] I feel like an hour dude. Cool. Like two now you’re kind of getting to the point where like I’m not even awake yet. Yeah.

[00:20:13] Brett: [00:20:13] Well, that’s the thing is I get up at five 30, like every day, five 30, even on weekends. It’s just, my body is currently wired that way, except like that time between five 30 and. 8:00 AM or 9:00 AM. That’s like me time. That’s when I do personal coding projects and work on my office, set up and stuff like that.

[00:20:33] And it feels, I don’t want to give that stuff up. That’s like that’s Saturday time for me.

[00:20:40] Christina: [00:20:40] No, I think that makes sense. And it’s interesting because I’m not a morning person, but I do find that if I can wake up, like if I could have that say, you know, Hour and a half or two and a half hours to wake up and kind of get ready for the day. Then I’m actually really productive that I actually need to work on is, is waking up in advance.

[00:20:56] Cause usually what happens is I just wake up, you know, it would [00:21:00] either be just with enough time to get into the office. Cause I would usually take like either like a seven. 55 or like an eight Oh five. Like sometimes it was a seven 30, but it would vary like what time of, uh, like bus, like connector I would get, you know, and sometimes I would try to see if I could get like a, like a, like an eight 25 that would be like ideal.

[00:21:19] And then I would get into the office like a little after nine and, and that would be really good, but, you know, um, and so depending on the day, you know, might only need to wake up 30 minutes. And advance and then go across the street and catch the bus. But now, because I could just, you know, roll out of bed and go into the other room or sometimes just take the meeting from my bedroom.

[00:21:43] I ha I don’t have that me time. And I think that as an ADHD person and for lots of other reasons I need to do that, that’s actually been interesting. What’s going to be really interesting when I go back, um, on Saturday is my sleep schedule is, is so fucked right now [00:22:00] because I’ve been staying up with my sister every night with the baby and, you know, so that means going to bed.

[00:22:06] Like I w I went to bed at like 4:00 AM last night, and then I was up at like nine and,

[00:22:10] Brett: [00:22:10] I haven’t stayed up till 4:00 AM since I was, Oh my God. I can’t even remember the last time I stayed up past midnight.

[00:22:17] Christina: [00:22:17] Well, I mean, I, I frequently say past midnight.

[00:22:19] and do other stuff, but it’s just that what’s going to be weird about this is that. Like my body clock is also now three hours ahead. And so going back, I’m going to be getting used to both the, you know, staying up weird hours and being in a different time zone thing.

[00:22:34] And then it doesn’t help that I’ve got to sort of prepare myself because not next week, but the week after next is Microsoft build and I’ll be doing some of the late night hosting stuff. So yeah.

[00:22:47] Brett: [00:22:47] 8:00 AM. And then you could like do a full 24 hour reset when you get home. No. Then you’d be like 12 hours off that

[00:22:56] Christina: [00:22:56] Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it wouldn’t So I’ve got to, yeah, I’m just going to [00:23:00] be sleeping and trying to get into things. But I have a bunch of meetings Monday and Tuesday next week. So I don’t know. I’m my sleep schedule is fucked up. I’m going to be, you know, it’s going to be interesting to see how my body reacts and stuff next week.

[00:23:10] That’s for sure.

[00:23:11] Brett: [00:23:11] So let’s talk about your doge coin. This is our continuing saga we’re we’re in the, uh, the doge segment of the show. Now.

[00:23:19] Christina: [00:23:19] We are in the Dodi segment, the show. will fucking Alon, you know, totally whiffed on SNL. And that was when it started to really drop. And so my average cost cause I bought in too high, my average cost is now 24, uh, uh, 0.9, 4 cents. So almost 25 cents. So the current price as we’re recording, this is 38 five three.

[00:23:43] And. Dropping, but also going up a little bit. It, this is the lowest it has been in weeks. Um, and it’s funny because I remember when it hit for 20, like 42 cents, everybody was like, so excited earlier today. It was at like, 44 cents. [00:24:00] Um, it was at, I think it hit, um, like 47 or 48 cents yesterday. I don’t know.

[00:24:06] It’s down a lot. The whole, all of crypto is down a lot. So I’m only up as we record this, a little loan over $600, $620 and 41 cents. So I’m only up 55% right Now.

[00:24:17] Brett: [00:24:17] Yeah, like this slump took Bitcoin down, like 36%. Like that was a huge loss.

[00:24:23] Christina: [00:24:23] Yeah, no, he’s now at 48, um, eight five. And at this point, I mean, I’m kind of, I’m kind of looking at getting into Bitcoin, um, at least like fractionally, um, see if it drops any lower, because I think it’ll come back. But yeah. Um, I, Um,

[00:24:43] My, my doge green dreams, I was up like two grand Saturday. I should have sold Saturday.

[00:24:48] And I didn’t partially because I was with the baby. And then by the time it was dropping, I was like, well, maybe it’ll pop and I don’t want it to, I don’t want to lose stuff. And now I’m just kind of at the point where I’m like, you know what, this I bought into this. Cause it was [00:25:00] funny. And I

[00:25:03] Brett: [00:25:03] to play the choke out.

[00:25:04] Christina: [00:25:04] Completely. I mean, like here’s the, here’s the thing, and this is like the immense privilege, but I’ve talked about this before that this was money. I forgot that I had, and so I don’t really care one way or another. The worst thing that can happen is if I lose all of my investments, then I get a tax write off for that amount, which I can definitely use.

[00:25:22] Like, that’s the worst thing that can happen. So, yeah, I think I’m just going to play it out.

[00:25:26] See if it pops again and if it doesn’t and I’m down, if I’m at a loss. Womp womp, then it’s been really funny, you know?

[00:25:34] Brett: [00:25:34] So this, uh, this crash really was brought on. By Elon Musk doing a horrible job on us and no. And the fact that it was bad jokes that made a joke currency it’s uh, Michael of Baird said bad jokes. And no funny means leading to a dose crash. Absolutely makes sense. To me, it’s like an earnings miss, [00:26:00] but for a new era.

[00:26:01] Christina: [00:26:01] 100%. Um, there was, uh, there was another component to this, to this guy, uh, uh, Michael Silbert, who was like one crypto guy. I can’t remember what coin he was from, uh, where he was from, but he decided to get out and try to put it in something else. And he apparently had a really big position in doge. And so, and, and he got out like before SNL started, so that might’ve had something to do with it, but yeah, you saw it drop, like I was watching SNL and he was so bad.

[00:26:27] I was watching SNL being called an abelist, by the way, I’m an able to Snell Brett, because I said that a billionaire, um, famous person didn’t do a good job on SNL. And then people were like, Oh, well it’s because he has Asperger’s. And I’m like, I don’t actually care.

[00:26:42] Brett: [00:26:42] had Asperger’s.

[00:26:43] Christina: [00:26:43] Agreed. Well, that came out. But

[00:26:45] Brett: [00:26:45] Dan Akroyd was funny.

[00:26:47] Christina: [00:26:47] It precisely, like, here’s the thing. Um, I’m not going to give you an attaboy or like a good job because you have a disorder that in some people means that you’re not good at making eye [00:27:00] contact or, you know, you don’t have good timing and you can’t be funny.

[00:27:02] Right. And that’s not the case with all people, but it is the case, but some people, but like, It’s the same thing as that, if you have a profound speech impediment or stutter or something else, maybe you shouldn’t be a news anchor.

[00:27:14] And in fact, most news anchors you would be disqualified. If you had a really profound stutter or a really profound speech impediments from being a news anchor, you would be disqualified from that job. Uh, that’s a fact and that’s completely fair. So maybe if for whatever reason, I don’t care what it is and people I’m in love.

[00:27:34] Some of the discord let us know online. If I’m an asshole, maybe I, I admit this is an asshole thing to say, but I think it’s also pretty honest. If you have things going on, like he’s not a good public speaker and we know this, maybe those should be things that should be disqualifying for hosting a show like SNL, just a thought,

[00:27:50] Brett: [00:27:50] we have. We had

[00:27:51] Christina: [00:27:51] but it has nothing to do with his being Asperger’s.

[00:27:53] Brett: [00:27:53] had, we’ve crossed over into like the, who Christina has pissed off this week segment. This is cool.

[00:27:59] Christina: [00:27:59] Yeah, I was [00:28:00] going to say, um, yeah, no people were calling me able to send all this other stuff than somebody can compared me to a Trump supporter. And anti-vaxxers because I dared say that I’m entitled to say, I don’t think the guy is. Good At this. And he was like, well, you’re just want to be a hater. And I’m like, who cares?

[00:28:16] It’s not hurting him. I’m not punching down by saying that the guy’s a bad public speaker in his, and wasn’t a good host. I also said that the writing let him down and the writing was really bad. So it wasn’t the complete thing where it was all of his fault. Like the writing was also really, really shitty even for, you know, SNL standards, which SNL can be mixed, but, and that’s just my perspective.

[00:28:38] Some people write, but sometimes that’s an L. Nails it, sometimes it doesn’t like the thing is, is that, you know, like when you bring in non-performers to a show like SNL, the results are usually really negative, right? Like, this is why politicians, I don’t think should be brought on. Now. I know why SNL invited him.

[00:28:56] They wanted the ratings and they wanted the memes and they wanted, [00:29:00] you know, all the other stuff. That’s why you invite him. I get it. I’m not opposed to them inviting him. I just feel like it’s one of those things. Like there are some people who are going to be really good on television and there are some people who are really not, and he’s not good TV.

[00:29:14] Like, it’s just

[00:29:16] Brett: [00:29:16] Yeah,

[00:29:18] Christina: [00:29:18] you watching him on Joe Rogan get stoned. Like that’s one thing, but watching him on a comedy show, whatever and so bad, it, it, it lost me money. So fuck you along. I mean, I’m kidding. I don’t care.

[00:29:32] Brett: [00:29:32] cross promotion, my guests this week on systematic. We’re a, uh, a therapist who specializes in, uh, autism spectrum disorder and her daughter who was diagnosed with Asperger’s during the period where they were actually using the Asperger diagnosis,

[00:29:51] Christina: [00:29:51] was going to say, that’s the other thing too, like this has, this is no longer even part of the DSM five.

[00:29:56] Brett: [00:29:56] if you were diagnosed with Asperger’s during the [00:30:00] time of the DSM four, you do get to maintain the diagnosis. Like you can still call yourself an ass ASPE. Um,

[00:30:08] Christina: [00:30:08] so you can ask me.

[00:30:09] Brett: [00:30:09] Yes. It’s still a Git despite, you know, Asperger being a Nazi and all of this. But anyway, it was a fascinating conversation. I had them both on, I got to talk to, uh, both from like a parent, a parent who specializes in autism and a daughter who actually lives with it.

[00:30:27] And it was, it was a really cool conversation.

[00:30:29]Christina: [00:30:29] That’s awesome. That’s really good. I’m really glad to hear that.

[00:30:33] Brett: [00:30:33] So speaking of dose though,

[00:30:36] Christina: [00:30:36] Yeah.

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[00:33:14] Brett: [00:33:14] Yeah. Oh my God. Credit cards are the worst. Like if you, if you, if you can pay your credit card bill off every month, it credit cards can have benefits. Like you can get your points and

[00:33:25] Christina: [00:33:25] that’s what I do. That, that’s what I try to do. That’s what I, that’s what I try to do. and I know that it’s not always possible to do that, but that’s what I try to do. Um, that’s actually one of the reasons why I like American express historically, is because most of their cards, aren’t charged cards.

[00:33:39] They’re not credit cards, meaning you have to. Like you don’t have a choice. Like you have to, um, pay it off at the end of every month. So.

[00:33:48] Brett: [00:33:48] you can’t spend money, you don’t have, uh, which is always my intention going into it. And then things happen that I can’t afford, but have to be paid. And I ended up putting them on a [00:34:00] credit card and thinking I’ll be able to afford this in a couple months, but then more shit happens and shit piles up and shit sucks.

[00:34:08] Shit, shit, shit. Anyway. Yeah. So. Uh, w I’m gonna skip, we were on the, we were on the, the Musk, uh, train for a minute there. And we could have talked about how a couple of researchers hacked a Tesla with a drone flying overhead, which is slightly interesting, but also, eh, I’m over it.

[00:34:32] Christina: [00:34:32] You’re over it. I mean, it’s, it is what it is. I mean, I think, yeah. W the one thing I do want to say about Musk, did you see how he also crashed Bitcoin? Because he said that Tesla won’t accept it.

[00:34:42] anymore. And. That he doesn’t want to, um, he like feels like, Oh, um, uh, you know, that it’s bad for the environment or whatever.

[00:34:51] Like all of a sudden he now like, cares about the environment.

[00:34:54]Brett: [00:34:54] It’s his, his stance on the environment is, uh, [00:35:00] frequently infuriating. Like he doesn’t believe the science. No, it’s it. Yeah.

[00:35:07] Christina: [00:35:07] Well, and also, it seems weird to me, like he’s still keeping his crypto holdings, right. So he’s still keeping his holdings in this stuff, but, and he’s like, I’m not going to cash out, but, um, we’re not going to accept it anymore. Which to me feels like, well, this just makes me see me. It makes me think you’re just.

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