212: Mötley Coüp

Overtired 212

[00:00:00] Brett: [00:00:00] It’s mine. It’s my week to do the intro. Welcome to overtired, uh, with Christina Warren and Brett Terpstra. How’s it going, Christina?

[00:00:07] Christina: [00:00:07] Well, I am living up to the show’s name. I am like very tired. I got like an hour and a half. Two hours of sleep.

[00:00:17]Brett: [00:00:17] Yeah, like I’ve, I’ve done that many times. Like I can relate to what mornings look like after two hours of sleep, but what’s going on for you?

[00:00:26] Christina: [00:00:26] no, just insomnia.

[00:00:27] Brett: [00:00:27] Oh, no.

[00:00:28] Christina: [00:00:28] no just like insomnia and, and fear and dread over like the state of everything.

[00:00:35] Brett: [00:00:35] Yeah, no, I feel like, I feel like our mental health corner starts right here.

[00:00:39] Christina: [00:00:39] I, yeah, I was going to say like, we shouldn’t even do any preambles. So for, uh, for listeners, we are recording this on a Tuesday morning at 7:30 AM. Pacific time, 10:30 AM Eastern. So

[00:00:54] Brett: [00:00:54] Live election coverage.

[00:00:56] Christina: [00:00:56] Yep. Yep. Um, I, uh, I see the New [00:01:00] York times has brought back the dam, um, button thing, like the, like the, um, to show, like, you know, like where things are.

[00:01:10] Uh, no, we don’t. I have like genuine PTSD from the last election. And from that damn like, you know, uh, whatever that thing is called, like the. Uh, the, the gauge. Yeah, there we go. Meet her. Yes. The, the, the, the election meter, like from the New York times election meter, I was like mother fucker. Like I genuinely have like, like PTSD and I’m I not actual PTSD,

[00:01:38] Brett: [00:01:38] You’d be surprised actually.

[00:01:40] Christina: [00:01:40] all, all I was going to say though, but the thing is, is that I do have like a visceral, like, Actual like physical reaction to thinking back about where I was four years ago and what happened four years ago.

[00:01:52] Like, it’s a very real thing. And so I’m like I’m being flipped, but I’m also kind of not. So [00:02:00] seeing them bring that election meter thing back, even for just a couple of States, I was like, no, no, no, you are not doing that New York times. No, you are not like, because I just go back to where I was. Four years ago in New York city watching happen.

[00:02:16] And I can still realize when it hit me and it hit me hours before. It, it hit a lot of other people, like, like grant was, was not where I was at. And it was like, I don’t know. It was probably, honestly it was probably seven 30, eight o’clock. But I think that I, I sent out a tweet that, that, that like, like 8:30 PM.

[00:02:42] I remember this because business insider quoted it and like their election live blog thing or whatever. And I was like, I feel sick and. That was, you know, a good five hours before anything was like called. And, but, but I, it just, I could just see where it [00:03:00] was going. And I was like, I feel sick. just remember being in the Gawker offices and just watching and seeing everything and, and yeah,

[00:03:10] Brett: [00:03:10] 30 they had called Florida. If I recall correctly,

[00:03:14] Christina: [00:03:14] they were in the process. And that was the thing I think, I think actually that was

[00:03:18] Brett: [00:03:18] yeah, the path, the path to the electoral win had already pretty much been sealed by eight 30 or nine o’clock.

[00:03:24] Christina: [00:03:24] yeah, it wasn’t like, I think they were still holding out that Florida could be, um, like, uh, you know, could go one way or another, but I think that it had, it had basically, you know, it was, it was at a point where it could be called and yeah, that was the thing for me. I think that was what had happened.

[00:03:41] They had just called Florida and I was like, Wow. You know, and, and, and that was when it was just kind of like starting to Dawn on me. And like I said, like other people that I was with both in the office and, you know, grant w we’re like, no, no, no, it’s fine. It’s fine. And just, just seeing the mood [00:04:00] shift, I mean, that was the, the most just kind of.

[00:04:03] Bizarre thing. And it’s not so much that everybody in the office was in the tank for Hillary. I’m not trying to like, be all like, like conspiracy there’s Oh, you know, all New York media people were in the tank or whatever. And it’s like, but you know, you think something’s going to happen a certain way.

[00:04:16] And what had actually happened is his, and we were mad about this, bringing it up to this, but, um, uh Deadspin um, which, uh, you know, was a very good website. Uh, it is now run by zombie scabs, um, who are terrible and she’d feel bad, uh, because they are bad. Uh, but, but, but defector that, the site that all the people who were at Deadspin quit and, uh, who quit a year ago actually, and, and.

[00:04:42] Started it is quite good, but, um, some of the, the dudes had written like an article about like how everybody voted and a bunch of the men like. Proudly where, like, I didn’t vote and a bunch of the women in the office, like, we were like mad at them. We were like, this is just like [00:05:00] reeks of privilege. And I go, it doesn’t matter, you know, she’s going to win anyway and whatnot.

[00:05:03] And like, honestly, yeah, for the state of New York, it wouldn’t have mattered, but it was just like the, the fact that they didn’t and then to see how things happened. Uh, there were lots and lots and lots of like, Dirty looks and like angry yells, um, throughout the next week in the office. But you know, there was this, this, this, this guy worked with, it was his first election.

[00:05:23] Um, because he, he was like about to turn 19 and just like seeing the look on his face as he was kind of realizing, you know, what happened. And it was just this, I’ll never forget it because it was just this moment where, I mean, you know, I don’t want to like, put like, I don’t want to like, create an experience for him that wasn’t accurate to him.

[00:05:44] But for me it felt like I was watching someone like lose their, their innocence, you know, like in real time. And. You know, we had this massive TV screen, um, in, in the office that was like in the theater area. It [00:06:00] was like this huge, huge, huge, um, Mike, uh, you know, projector thing. That was two stories tall and, and, and we were all just kind of gathered in, in Washington.

[00:06:08] Just, I was, I left at like one P 1:00 AM and, uh, um, it was just, uh, yeah, just worst night ever.

[00:06:18] Brett: [00:06:18] right. And so what you’re describing is legitimately true. And I don’t think that I’m not a psychiatrist obviously, but I don’t think that PTSD is too crazy. A claim to make about what we all went through four years ago. Here’s the thing about that meter is, and by the time this comes out tomorrow, everyone will be fully aware that we’re not going to know who won today.

[00:06:44] There’s every chance that by the end of today, it looks like Donald Trump won. It will be at least a week, if not a month before all of the mail and votes are counted. [00:07:00] And there is every chance that, uh, there will be a blue shift as those mail-in votes are counted. So it’s going to be a tight race, but we’re not going to know today and I’m not going to turn on my TV today.

[00:07:15] I’m not going to check the news today because. I don’t want to be depressed. Seeing Donald Trump, you know, take the lead for any period of time.

[00:07:24] Christina: [00:07:24] Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, so I, I would, I would like, um, the New York times has a podcast called the daily and that I quite like, and they had an episode last week, um, or two weeks ago, like reliving the 2000 election. And I, um, I missed being able to vote in that election by like a week and a half or something.

[00:07:45] So I, I didn’t vote in that election. And, um, but I remember like watching that and I remember, you know, like, I remember that whole thing about like the, the, the confusion of like going to bed, I think at one point, and it was, you know, [00:08:00] first it was called for Gore than it was called for, you know, then it was too close to call.

[00:08:05] Then it was called for Bush and core conceded. And then like I woke up and Gore was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like I don’t concede and. That was actually his biggest mistake was that he conceded too early. And that was one of the like, genuinely, like, that was the thing that like beyond the Supreme court stuff and whatnot, like there was, you know, this whole like Brooks brothers, uh, like, uh, um, uh, you know, like riot riot or whatever.

[00:08:29] And, uh, the Roger Stone led and all this stuff. And, but the big thing is that he conceded too early and it made him look like a sore loser. And so. A unless like, unless the numbers are just so skewed that there’s no way that he could like. Unless Biden, like it’s such a blow out that there’s no way that, that there’s no path to victory.

[00:08:53] Trump is not going to come in and concede. And, and by the same token, like, I really, I hope that [00:09:00] everybody on Biden’s team like remembers that lesson from 20 years ago, which is no matter what happens. Like you cannot like the concede tonight. Like there’s, there’s no way like, like, even if you think that there’s no possible way for it to work out, like.

[00:09:17] This is, this is not the time to like be gentlemen Lee, because a you’re not going against a competitor who is, uh, is going to give you equal, um, respect and be, as you said, we just don’t know. So, so what is your, what is your plan

[00:09:37] Brett: [00:09:37] my, my plan for tonight,

[00:09:40] Christina: [00:09:40] Yeah.

[00:09:41] Brett: [00:09:41] I’m going to watch Frasier, uh, and ignore like everything, because what, like what, what I’m waiting for is the coup. I’m waiting for, uh, for it to look like Trump is ahead tonight. And then for Trump to make every effort to [00:10:00] end the count, uh, to, to fight, uh, all mail in ballots to try to cancel out all of the we’ll call them pandemic votes, because, uh, that’s when that’s, when the election will be rigged.

[00:10:16] And when that happens, that’s when we have to start considering protests, we have to start considering rolling strikes. We have to start really fighting for democracy because like never before it hangs in the balance.

[00:10:31] And if, if Trump tries to do anything, to make sure that every vote isn’t counted. Like, this is, this is a call to action. And I don’t get to pretend that I’m too old for this shit anymore. So I’m gearing up. So tonight I watched Frasier tonight, I take it easy and mentally prepare for a coup

[00:10:53]Christina: [00:10:53] yeah, my neighborhood’s since, you know, June four. And, and I, I’m not like opposed [00:11:00] I’m opposed to the, to the white people and Arcus bullshit, but I’m not opposed to like the protests and stuff in general. But like, my neighborhood has been like a protest zone since June. And, um, I don’t even, I can’t even imagine what it’s going to be like tonight, honestly, like.

[00:11:16] Um, so, cause I live, you know, near the, the chop or the Chaz or, or whatever you want to call it. Like, I don’t live in it, but I live like a couple blocks from it. Um, and uh, the people who in my apartment complex are actually suing the city over it. And, uh, anyway, you know, so there’s, uh, which honestly fair because the, the city was so incompetent with the whole thing.

[00:11:40] That’s a whole other issue, but, um, like. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens in downtown Seattle tonight, because I have a feeling that is it’s going to be crazy, like one way or the other, you know what I mean? Like, because as you said, I’m, I’m kind of waiting [00:12:00] for AI again, like, unless it was just a total blowout and he doesn’t have anybody who expect, you know what I mean?

[00:12:07] Like, and even if it is a total blowout, I’m not expecting Trump to concede. Um, but. You know, unless I were to happen where it was like, it made people like, like confident, like, okay, this is how this is going to happen. Like there’s going to be, they’re going to be riots is all I’m saying. And like one way or another like, period and, um, just kind of preparing for that.

[00:12:28] Brett: [00:12:28] So do you have any special outfits planned for the civil war?

[00:12:31] Christina: [00:12:31] yeah. Um, well, I I’ve spent, I’ve spent a lot of money on Supreme during the pandemic, so I guess that

[00:12:40] Brett: [00:12:40] is Supreme.

[00:12:42] Christina: [00:12:42] Supreme is very, very overpriced, but well overpriced because you have to pay, uh, for, from scalpers. Um, but they’re a skateboard kind of shop, um, and streetwear company and they do, they do drops like every Thursday.

[00:12:58] But the thing is, is that they [00:13:00] sell out of their drops, like immediately and then scalpers charge two, three, four times as much for their stuff. So it’s just like street wear stuff. So. Uh, I have, uh, I I’ve I’ve um, I have a lot of Supreme stuff and so I, I guess like the revolution will be Supreme, uh, outfitted in that,

[00:13:20] Brett: [00:13:20] you have so much more money than I do. You have so much money. I’m surprised you’re not a Republican. That’s a joke. I’m joking. How dare you?

[00:13:30] Christina: [00:13:30] Seriously. I mean, well, the irony with all of that, right, is that, is that I talked to, I don’t talk to, because I don’t go on Facebook, but I see people on Facebook who are people that like, I went to college with, uh, or, or high school with who are talking about taxes and this and that, and are, you know, are Republicans and whatnot and, and, and they’re going on and on about all this shit.

[00:13:51] And I’m like, I pay more in taxes than you make. Like. And I’m still a Democrat, like fuck off. [00:14:00] Like I’m like, I’m, I’m, you know, uh, I’m not in to be clear. I am not in that. Like, I personally make $400,000 a year category that, you know, the, the Joe Biden has this, this, this I’m not there, but I’m like, eh, I certainly, um, I make a lot more than I made four years ago.

[00:14:20] That that’s absolutely true. And I pay a whole lot more in taxes than, um, a lot of people who like. I grew up with who were complaining about stuff. I’m like, I’m like shut up. Like I’m in like the top. And the problem is, is that I make enough money where I don’t like, I make enough money that I pay a lot in taxes, which I’m completely fine with, but I don’t make so much money that I can like be part of the tax shelters.

[00:14:45] You know what I mean? Like, so it’s like that weird middle zone where it’s like, Oh no, you’re the person who like, actually like. Pays and then some, and that’s fine. I’m, I’m not like in any way mad about that. Uh, it is what it is. And, and, [00:15:00] uh, my only if I could bitch about anything with that, it’s that I wish that all the, the fact that, you know, the large percentage of my income that I pay in taxes, I wish that that meant that we had a social safety net for everyone.

[00:15:13] Right. Like that would be that, that’s the only thing that bothers me. Right. It’s like, okay, like, You know, people like me and my, my big tech ilk pay a lot of money in taxes, which is fine, but we still don’t have national healthcare. And we still have people who don’t have a safety net and we still have seniors who feel like they can’t retire.

[00:15:34] And we still have, you know, people who are on the poverty line and we still have like other really fucked up situations. And like, that’s, that’s where I’d become like frustrated. I’m like, okay. You know, like, There, there is a big sector, not big, but a not small sector of people who are putting a lot into this.

[00:15:54] And we still don’t have these programs if we would just spend our money the right way on things like [00:16:00] universal healthcare. Because I would just like to think that for like my by 35% or whatever the hell my rate is, like, it would be nice if everybody had healthcare.

[00:16:10] Brett: [00:16:10] Yeah, well, that’s, that’s the thing. We, the tax rate on the wealthy has gone from. Uh, over the course of the last a hundred years, gone from like over 70% down to like what, like 15, 20% now. And you would think if trickle down economics worked,

[00:16:32] Christina: [00:16:32] right.

[00:16:33] Brett: [00:16:33] if that worked, we would, we would all be taken care of and the economy would be, uh, working for the poor.

[00:16:42] It would be working for a middle class, but the middle class has consistently shrunk every time we lower taxes on the upper class, so.

[00:16:53] Christina: [00:16:53] thing, right? Because like, technically, like I’m upper middle class. Like I’m not in the 1%, I’m not

[00:16:59] Brett: [00:16:59] Sure. [00:17:00] Yeah.

[00:17:00] Christina: [00:17:00] in the 3%. Like I’m in like the upper middle class thing, but like that, you know, I’m, I’m like what my parents were and, um, Yeah, like it gets smaller and smaller and smaller.

[00:17:11] And th th th the thing is depending on where you live. Okay. Uh, it’s a little bit different now because of the pandemic and stuff and, and housing prices and rent prices are actually insanely in a weird state, like in San Francisco. But even that said, like making what I make, if I lived in San Francisco, I would actually get a raise.

[00:17:31] Um, like Microsoft would

[00:17:33] Brett: [00:17:33] Sure. Yeah.

[00:17:34] Christina: [00:17:34] because costs of even though the cost of living, isn’t actually that much higher. If I lived in San Francisco or in New York, my salary, my base salary would be higher. And the thing is, is that when I made, you know, $115,000 a year living in New York city, that was like, okay, I can pay my rent and I can pay my taxes and I can like do other stuff.

[00:17:57] And I maybe have [00:18:00] $400 left at the end of the, the month.

[00:18:02] Brett: [00:18:02] AOL offered to double my salary if I would move to San Francisco. Um, and I was making six figures to start with, so it was a significant increase, but when I did the math, the difference, even with a double salary,

[00:18:19] Christina: [00:18:19] Was still you were going to be losing

[00:18:22] Brett: [00:18:22] Yeah, I still would have had less disposable income

[00:18:26] Christina: [00:18:26] totally. Well, yeah.

[00:18:29] Brett: [00:18:29] it just, it wasn’t worth it. I, I actually, I like it in Minnesota, but the number one thing that I’ve come to appreciate, uh, is how cheap it is to live here.

[00:18:41] Christina: [00:18:41] Yeah. I mean, cause that’s the thing, right? Is that it’s like, I make a lot of money, but I still don’t own a house and I’m still not in a position to buy a house, like period. Like, you know what I mean? Like it’s one of those things it’s like, okay. It like. If okay. If I had spent, if I’d spent my whole career working for like a big tech company.

[00:19:00] [00:19:00] Being the age that I am, I could absolutely afford to buy a house, but I didn’t. Right. So it was like, okay, I’ve got, I’ve got three years of this. So it was like, okay, I have, you know, decent savings and I could buy a house in the suburbs, maybe. Um, although even that would be like hard. And, um, but otherwise it’s like, no, cause you know, you need like a 20% down payment and you need other stuff.

[00:19:22] And it’s like, I don’t have that kind of money. Like,

[00:19:26] Brett: [00:19:26] See here, here. I can get a nice house, not a mansion, but a nice house for less than one year salary that they were going to pay me. And in San Francisco, I mean, you can get a decent house for right around 200.

[00:19:41] Christina: [00:19:41] right. See, the thing is, and I would need 200 as a down payment.

[00:19:44] Brett: [00:19:44] I know. I know. I looked into it. It’s insane. And when I, when I did the calculations, that was just me living in an apartment.

[00:19:52] Christina: [00:19:52] exactly.

[00:19:53] Brett: [00:19:53] there was no chance of home ownership on that salary.

[00:19:57] Christina: [00:19:57] No, not even remotely close. I mean, and that’s the [00:20:00] thing is it’s this it’s like, and, and that’s the thing too, is that it’s like, yeah. Okay. A lot of the big tech companies, like we’re very blessed and I’m in no way complaining because we are so much better off than so many other people, uh, globally. And, and it it’s, it’s not a complaint, but it is one of those things it’s like, okay, if you don’t live in the Midwest or someplace that has affordable housing, Then even that said, you are in your thirties, like me and you’re making, you know, a good six figure income and you can’t afford to be a homeowner.

[00:20:31] Like your, your options for that are to go to the suburbs, to rent or to start really young and put money away. So that by the time you’ve been at it for 15 years, then you can, you can do

[00:20:45] Brett: [00:20:45] Yeah, but, but you starting really young these days. Isn’t an option anymore. Like are, are starting with millennials and on people aren’t making enough to save them.

[00:20:58] Christina: [00:20:58] No. I agree. Well, what I mean though, is [00:21:00] like, if you were hired out of college at like Amazon or Microsoft or Google or something, and that’s what I mean. Right. So, whereas whereas no, to be completely clear, like, yeah. I mean, I, I’m not alone in this and that, like if you’re a coastal person yeah. And you work at a big company.

[00:21:16] Like always talk about that. People are like, Oh, you have all this money. I’m like, I’m bad with my money in the sense that I don’t have any debt, but like I buy stupid shit. Like I buy vinyl and I buy stuff from Supreme because what else am I supposed to do with it? I can’t buy a house. I can’t buy property.

[00:21:31] Like I could. Yeah. But, you know, what would have been a problem? Like I actually thought about it and I’m so glad I didn’t have the money or do it, but because I didn’t have the opportunity then. Um, but I thought about like at one point I was like, well, you know, I won’t be able to own property in Seattle and I certainly wouldn’t be able to own in New York or whatever, but maybe I could buy like property someplace else and do Airbnb shit.

[00:21:55] Well, thank God I didn’t because all the air, all the people who did that are so fucked. [00:22:00] They’re so screwed. I mean, and then there are a lot of people who got like the low-interest loans and whatnot, and like really are screwed because they have, you know, they’re, they’re not on the hook, these, these mortgages and like nobody’s doing Airbnb stuff.

[00:22:11] So, um, you know, and it’s like, um, but like they, they cut our rent, um, which is insane. Like they actually kept our rent the same, but they gave us a free month. So. My rent is, is before parking and other stuff is 3,500 a month. And, um, so that was like, you know, basically a $300 a month, uh, cut on my rent this year, which is nuts.

[00:22:37] They were like, please just don’t leave. Just, if you sign a, a six to 12 month lease, we’ll give you a free month rent. I’m like, okay, chill, I’m done, you know,

[00:22:48] Brett: [00:22:48] Do you want to know how much the mortgage is on the house I’m living in?

[00:22:51] Christina: [00:22:51] 1500.

[00:22:53] Brett: [00:22:53] Less, I won’t go into the exact number, but it, it only has three digits. And I have [00:23:00] an office and a bedroom and a kitchen and a living room.

[00:23:03] Christina: [00:23:03] see, see, and that’s the thing, right? This is why, um, I was actually there’s this thing, um, in the wall street journal, I think this week about how people are like. A mass moved from the Bay area to Colorado. And it makes sense. Um, and, and you see going to a lot of other places, the one downside of that is, and this is the thing where the tech companies and some of the other employers will screw you, is that they will lower your base rate.

[00:23:28] And for some

[00:23:29] Brett: [00:23:29] The Midwest tax, they call it.

[00:23:31] Christina: [00:23:31] Right. And, and for some people, if you do the math, it will still work out. Um, for me, it’d be one of those things. I’m like, I don’t want to live in the Midwest and then you, like, you need a car and you need other stuff, but a lot of people are now. Like, I, I don’t think Winona is going to face this, but the Minnesota, well it’s actually, Minnesota is really cold, but you know what I mean?

[00:23:51] But like, but, but, but, but the Midwest in general is going to have this big influx. I think of people, you know, kind of coming into it and like [00:24:00] Colorado is actually a perfect spot for that, because already it was a tech hub, like with Boulder and Denver and stuff, but it’s going to be even bigger when people are, people are, people are like in Boise and shit and I’m like, Montana and like, like housing prices are going up in Montana because people are like, all right, we’re going to flee, you know, San Francisco and go to Bozeman.

[00:24:20] And I’m like, okay, I, and this is elitist of me, but I’m like, I don’t, I don’t know if I could live in Bozeman. Like even if it was super cheap. I think that that would just like, I think I would be driven insane, but that’s just me.

[00:24:35] Brett: [00:24:35] are you ready for an awesome segue?

[00:24:37] Christina: [00:24:37] I’m so ready for an awesome segue.

[00:24:40] Brett: [00:24:40] Okay, Lee, I don’t mean to raise expectations cause it’s not that greatest segue, speaking of mental health, C kinda. So one of the things that my psychiatrist has recommended for me is taking vitamins D N E and uh,

[00:25:00] [00:25:00] Christina: [00:25:00] mine too.

[00:25:00] Brett: [00:25:00] Yeah, well, they’re, they’re great for your, for, for your, uh, your mental health, especially if you have like, uh, we, we will go into specific.

[00:25:09] I’m not allowed to, that’s weird. Yeah. But, but, but, so, uh, we are sponsored this week by ritual multivitamins and, um, just got my first shipment of them this morning. So I can’t talk about how well they work yet, but. I’ll tell you why I’m excited to start. Are you ready for

[00:25:32] Christina: [00:25:32] why are you excited? I’m so excited to hear about why you’re excited to start.

[00:25:37] Brett: [00:25:37] So a lot of vitamin companies start with like great research and they have a great team of, of scientists and nutritionists and doctors, and they make a product they really believe in. And if they’re good, they often get bought up. And when a new parent company tries to optimize the product, they end up sourcing lower quality ingredients and adding fillers and sugars and a bunch of stuff you don’t want in your daily vitamins.

[00:26:00] [00:26:00] And. W the thing with ritual is it has no sugars, no GMOs, no synthetic fillers, no artificial colorings, and all of its ingredients are transparently sourced all the way through. So, you know, where every, everything from the casing of the capsule to the actual nutrients in it, you can see where it comes from.

[00:26:20] And because that’s like a major selling point for them. And, and the reason that I’m excited about it, I think, I think they’ll stick with that. I think even if they get bought, that’s kind of like a major feature for them.

[00:26:33] Christina: [00:26:33] Yeah, no. And I have to say I, um, I haven’t received mine yet, but I’m really excited to get them because I’ve been meaning to, I need to take a daily multivitamin to be totally candid and something that I’ve, I’ve kind of. Uh, I haven’t been adhering to basic health things in these, in these times. And when you look at that, yeah, I mean, that, you’re exactly right in that a lot of the multivitamins out there, like they have a lot of those fillers and so having a company that’s committed [00:27:00] to not having that stuff, uh, is really important.

[00:27:03] Brett: [00:27:03] Yeah. And you’re going to get the, the formula specifically for women. I’m taking the formula for men. Uh, they even have like a teen and postnatal formulas. Um,

[00:27:15] Christina: [00:27:15] I should maybe be getting the teen formula.

[00:27:18]Brett: [00:27:18] You young ins? Um, my formula has 10 nutrients. I’m not, I’m not sure offhand what’s in the women’s formula, but mine includes vitamin E N D.

[00:27:30] And even some B12. It’s not a button injection, but it is. I’m getting some B12 out of it. And, uh, and they’re vegan friendly. Yay. Uh, and, uh, as someone who’s doing intermittent fasting, I also liked that they use a delayed release capsule that dissolves later, uh, in less sensitive areas of the stomach. So I can take them even if I’m not eating a meal.

[00:27:56] Cause I skipped breakfast, but I like to take my vitamins in the [00:28:00] morning. So that’s, that’s a selling point.

[00:28:03] Christina: [00:28:03] No, that that’s good, actually. Yeah, no, cause I’m the same way I like to take a, I don’t do intermittent fasting. I just don’t eat in the morning. Um, so having a

[00:28:11] Brett: [00:28:11] Same difference.

[00:28:13] Christina: [00:28:13] basically, right? It’s like, well, yeah, this is like the dirty secret. I’m like, Oh, I don’t do intermittent fasting.

[00:28:18] I just eat once a day. And like, Oh, that’s kind of what that is. It is.

[00:28:22] Brett: [00:28:22] That’s that’s literally what that is. Um, but you deserve to know what’s in your multivitamin and that’s why ritual ritual is offering our listeners 10% off during your first three months. So you can visit ritual.com/overtired to start your ritual today. We did it. Yeah.

[00:28:43] Christina: [00:28:43] am. I am actually, I am actually legit happy to, uh, to get these and start taking them because I have not been, I have been neglecting basic health things.

[00:28:53]Brett: [00:28:53] Yeah. Get your vitamin D and D.

[00:28:55] Christina: [00:28:55] Okay. For, for real, I mean, I don’t go outside anymore, so, and, and [00:29:00] it’s like, it’s a problem. We were actually talking about like, naturally we were talking about like our vitamin D deficiencies last week or two weeks

[00:29:08] Brett: [00:29:08] And we talked about B12. I feel like everything’s coming full circle.

[00:29:12] Christina: [00:29:12] it is thank you, ritual.

[00:29:13] Brett: [00:29:13] So, um, the other thing that really helped my mental health this week, uh, with some escapism with friends, uh, I did, uh, with, with Dave Chartier and Dan Peterson and Marina Appleman and Christopher gambler wall inject just to drop some names that most people probably don’t know.

[00:29:35] Um,

[00:29:36] Christina: [00:29:36] but, but I know, and, and they’re all awesome. So

[00:29:39] Brett: [00:29:39] Yeah. So we did a virtual movie night. It was our second one. We did one a while back. We watched mr. Wright, which despite its, its rotten tomatoes rating is actually a fantastic movie. Uh, we’ve probably talked about it. I never shut up about mr. Wright, but uh, on Halloween [00:30:00] we got together on zoom. And then set up a group messages conversation and then used plexes watch together feature to play.

[00:30:12] Uh, John dies at the end,

[00:30:14] Christina: [00:30:14] nice.

[00:30:15] Brett: [00:30:15] is again, it’s, it’s like 60 bucks from rotten tomatoes. And if you actually read the reviews, everyone hated it, but it’s, it’s still a fun movie, especially with friends. Um, But it will like it works because you can, we mute the zoom call while the movie’s playing. And with watch together, you hit play and it plays for everybody.

[00:30:36] And so then we mute the zoom call and we switched to the text messages. So we have the running MST three K style, like witty remarks all the way

[00:30:46] Christina: [00:30:46] Oh, I love it.

[00:30:47] Brett: [00:30:47] And with the current version of messages, you can thread replies.

[00:30:50] Christina: [00:30:50] That’s right. Oh, that’s fun. I went in on the next one that

[00:30:54] Brett: [00:30:54] I will include you next time. I didn’t want to bother you on Halloween. I figured you had things [00:31:00] going on.

[00:31:00] Christina: [00:31:00] Oh, I was sick, so I was asleep, but yeah. Um,

[00:31:04] Brett: [00:31:04] yes, you will. Definitely. You’re already my friend on Plex. So it would be easy to loop you in. Uh, and it is a fun bunch of people and it it’s, there’s something about like, I’ve, I’ve texted, watched with people before where we just kind of like, we know we’re watching the same thing and you do that thing where you’re like, okay, hit play.

[00:31:24] Yeah, no, no. Now hit play and you try to like time it so that you’re seeing the same thing at the same time. So you can have really rapid fire text conversations about it. The Hulu has a watched together feature as well. I’m not sure.

[00:31:40] Christina: [00:31:40] I think Netflix finally released one

[00:31:43] Brett: [00:31:43] Okay. So yeah, you can do this with a whole bunch of different platforms. Uh, but it, it takes that whole like synchronized start thing out of the mix.

[00:31:52] Christina: [00:31:52] Right. Right.

[00:31:53] Brett: [00:31:53] having the zoom call, having the video, the zoom call and being able, even if they’re muted, being able [00:32:00] to see other people and, you know, see them laugh when, when you’re laughing and it adds this very much, a social.

[00:32:09] Aspect to it that you don’t get otherwise. And here’s the thing, even with having to have three different technologies running and, and streaming platforms and everything, it’s easier to pull together a digital watch party than it ever was to actually get people together in the same room.

[00:32:31] Christina: [00:32:31] right. Yeah. Um, so early in pandemic, uh, you know, 400 years ago or. And I think it actually was Marsh, even though it still feels like it’s Marshall, like that’s the joke is that it’s still March. Uh, I think what did I watch? I watched with Pershant and his wife, melody. We all got on, we got on FaceTime and we watched, I think we watched, uh, the, the Nancy Meyers film, um, the intern.

[00:32:53] Um, but we might’ve watched another Anne Hathaway movie. I don’t remember, but what we watched it together and it was fun, you know, just, but it was that [00:33:00] same thing. It was like over FaceTime and we were, we, we were basically sinked up or whatever, but it is that problem where like, even if you think you’ve got it done, like, you know, it can still be in precise, but you’re exactly right.

[00:33:11] Like just being able to see somebody, even if you’re muted. Is really, really awesome. And, and you’re also right. That it’s way easier than like finding people to invite over and be like, okay, we can all get together at this

[00:33:23] Brett: [00:33:23] Well, and then you have to clean your house.

[00:33:25] Christina: [00:33:25] Well, that’s the whole thing. Yeah. I was like, I got to, my house is a nightmare.

[00:33:29] Brett: [00:33:29] have to serve snacks.

[00:33:32] Christina: [00:33:32] Yeah. That I don’t ever mind, I’ll just order out. But the cleaning thing is, is definitely an issue. And or if you live like our living room is a decent enough size, but we. I don’t know it’s full of guitars and other stuff, but like in New York, but like in New York, for instance, we could never have people over because our living room was also kind of like our kitchen area.

[00:33:53] Like, it was the way that like the layout was because our apartment was so small,

[00:33:56] Brett: [00:33:56] With the bathroom in the corner and everything. Yeah, no, I’m just

[00:34:00] [00:33:59] Christina: [00:33:59] Yeah. Well, no.

[00:34:01] Brett: [00:34:01] I have seen pictures of New York apartments where the bathroom is in the kitchen.

[00:34:05] Christina: [00:34:05] Yeah. And I mean, ours was not in the kitchen, but it was like this, this tiny little, like, it shouldn’t have been a bathroom. Let’s just put it that way. Um, but yeah, so yeah, that, that’s awesome. Um, I definitely went on to the next thing and, uh, also kudos for, for Plex, for introducing that. Cause I think a lot of the services are doing it now, but there’d been a bunch of extensions, like Chrome extensions that people had created to get up the sinking.

[00:34:31] Um, and, and I think it was so popular with pandemic that the services were finally like, okay, we’ll do it. Like, I think Amazon has one, but then they’re limited by like what content we’ll support it on or whatever. Whereas Plex doesn’t have to worry about that. Cause they’re just like, Hey, we don’t know what you’re watching.

[00:34:46] Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Um,

[00:34:48] Brett: [00:34:48] don’t know how you got it on your Plex. We assume you ripped your Blu-rays.

[00:34:53] Christina: [00:34:53] yeah. W we assumed that everything was just completely kosher, but.

[00:34:56] Brett: [00:34:56] Here’s a here’s I admire him for this, but I [00:35:00] could never live by it. But, but Dan, uh, from the, he’s the, he’s the designer for agile bits, um, one password and he, uh, yeah, I was saying for the benefit of

[00:35:12] Christina: [00:35:12] uh, yes, I, I’m sorry. You’re correct.

[00:35:16]Brett: [00:35:16] He, he, his Plex consists only of movies. He actually owns on blue Ray.

[00:35:22] Christina: [00:35:22] Cool.

[00:35:23] Brett: [00:35:23] That, yeah, that’s, that’s my response as well. Cool. Like I have a certain admiration for that. That’s, that’s a, that’s a strong, moral code to live

[00:35:31] Christina: [00:35:31] Yeah. Yeah. I used to have a, uh, so I used to have a thing when I was in high school. Um, and then in college a little bit where I was like, and this was like the Haiti of Napster. So I was like in, in

[00:35:44] Brett: [00:35:44] Oh, I thought you said Haiti of Napster. I was like, was there a, a disaster? Okay. Hey, Hey day.

[00:35:50] Christina: [00:35:50] heyday, heyday. Yeah. Uh, so, cause I was like in like 10th or 11th grade when Napster came out, uh, and I used to have this rule where I was like, okay, if I download more [00:36:00] than like