Other People's Money with Max Wiethe

Matt Jozoff, co-CEO, Portfolio Manager, and Head of Macro Research at Trevally Capital joins Other People’s Money, to discuss how trends like the growth in the Ginnie Mae market, low credit borrowers and non-bank originators, and other factors are affecting mortgage prepayments and creating opportunities in the mortgage market for firms like Trevally Capital. He also discusses how Trevally Capital is looking to extract alpha from these opportunities and build a world-class institutional asset manager with the backing of partners like The Raptor Group and Seaport Global Securities. Learn more about Trevally Capital: https://www.trevallycapital.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:33 Post-Tariff Fixed Income Market Update 06:49 Recent Mortgage Market Developments 10:45 Ginnie Mae Mortgages 12:04 Not Calling For Another Mortgage Crisis 13:42 Nobody Can Afford Refinancing 17:24 Trump Admin and Fannie & Freddie 21:08 Factors Affecting Mortgage Prepayments 28:27 Day one Institutional Quality 34:53 Prepayments Part II 39:04 Importance of Seed Investors like Raptor & Seaport Global 42:07 Hedge Fund Seed Investing is Venture Capital 43:55 Peers & Competitors in the Mortgage Market 49:36 Physics & Cincinnati Connection

Måns Levin, CEO and co-founder of Ridge Capital, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss why they believe the Nordic high yield credit market provides unique opportunities for double-digit returns and insolation from tariff and trade war risks. Levin discusses the exceptional start Ridge Capital has had, both in terms of performance and asset raising, the specific features and composition of the Nordic high yield market that they find most attractive, and the flexibility in strategies required to take full advantage of the opportunities they see. Follow Ridge Capital on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ridgecap/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod #credit #creditmarket #fixedincome #bonds #nordic #sweden #norway #denmark #finland #stocks #economics #economy #stockmarket #investing #hedgefunds #trading #wallstreet #ridgecapital #finance

Wayne Himelsein, CIO and founder of Logic Capital Advisors, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss how his hedge fund is built to profit when volatility spikes in moments just like this. Everybody wants to carry crash protection but if implemented improperly the cost of carrying hedges can bleed you dry. Finding innovative ways to solve this problem is what drives Himelsein and Logica forward and in this discussion he discusses their approach to maintaining at the money long volatility exposure without relying on spread trades to fund tail hedges. This episode is brought to you by Fintool, a financial copilot tailored for institutional investors. Fintool leverages Large Language Models (LLMs) to discover financial insights beyond the reach of timely human analysis. From summarizing extensive annual reports to computing numbers and unearthing new insights by comparing years of filings, Fintool equips institutional investors like Janus Henderson, First Manhattan and companies like PWC. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm Follow Wayne on X: https://x.com/WayneHimelsein Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

This episode is brought to you by Fintool. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process with Fintool: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm Petr Pinkhasov, CIO and founder of Anthem Capital Management, joins Other People’s Money, for a special “Trader Talks” episode where he discusses how he trades incorporating quantitative signals, thematic views, and technical analysis patterns like DeMark indicators. Petr also discusses how he’s been handling the volatile start to 2025 and what forces he is attributing the market’s recent turmoil and rotations. This episode is brought to you by Fintool, a financial copilot tailored for institutional investors. Fintool leverages Large Language Models (LLMs) to discover financial insights beyond the reach of timely human analysis. From summarizing extensive annual reports to computing numbers and unearthing new insights by comparing years of filings, Fintool equips institutional investors like Janus Henderson, First Manhattan and companies like PWC. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm Follow Petr on X: https://x.com/pinkhasov Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

This episode is brought to you by Fintool. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process with Fintool: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm Nicolás Dujovne, CIO and founder of Tenac Asset Management, joins Other People’s Money to discuss his path from Treasury Minister of Argentina and president of the G-20 to hedge fund manager. Despite more experience managing economies than trading them, Dujovne and his partners at Tenac have succeeded in building a 5+ year track record with no down years and an annualized rate of 17.18% net of fees, focusing mostly on sovereign and corporate debt of emerging market countries. In the interview we discuss how global macro feeds portfolio construction, the important factors when analyzing individual emerging markets, and how understanding large international organizations like the IMF is crucial to predicting outcomes in EM. This episode is brought to you by Fintool, a financial copilot tailored for institutional investors. Fintool leverages Large Language Models (LLMs) to discover financial insights beyond the reach of timely human analysis. From summarizing extensive annual reports to computing numbers and unearthing new insights by comparing years of filings, Fintool equips institutional investors like Janus Henderson, First Manhattan and companies like PWC. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT AN INDICATION OF FUTURE RESULTS. Historical performance is included for informational purposes only and should not be relied on as being indicative of results that will be achieved by the Fund. Future returns are not guaranteed, and a loss of principal may occur. Differences in the timing of the transactions, capital contributions or withdrawals, and market conditions prevailing at the time of the investment will lead to different results. Performance shown is for the stated time period only. Performance is presented net of fees and expenses and assumes the reinvestment of income and earnings. The net figures reflect the deduction of management fees (1.5%) and incentive fees (15%). BENCHMARKS. The performance of the Fund is shown as compared to indices. Broad-based securities indices are unmanaged and are not subject to fees and expenses typically associated with investment funds. Investments cannot be made directly in a broad-based securities index. The benchmark is provided for reference only and does not imply that the Fund will achieve returns, volatility, or other results similar to the benchmark. The composition of a benchmark index does not reflect the way the Fund portfolio is constructed in relation to expected or achieved returns, investment holdings, sectors, correlations, concentrations or tracking error targets, all of which are subject to change over time. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:29 Fintool Front Roll 02:00 Why is LATAM a Macro Hotbed? 04:11 From Minister of the Treasury to Macro Trader 11:36 Capital Raising in LATAM 16:31 Developing & Communicating Your Investment Process 20:53 Fintool Mid Roll 22:01 The Growth of EM Debt Markets 25:56 Dispersion and Portfolio Management 30:50 Corporate/Quasi Sovereign Debt 34:30 The Events That Move Markets in EM 38:22 Data Integrity Issues in EM 39:28 Vol and Investor Expectations 43:14 Global Spotlight on Argentina 44:57 Unique Requirements of Global Investing 48:16 The Roll of the IMF 54:27 Elections and Prediction Markets 56:58 The Roll of US Financial Conditions 01:01:45 Current Outlook for US Trade Policy 01:03:17 Opportunity Right Now #stocks #economics #economy #recession #bonds #stockmarket #investing #hedgefunds #analyst #Alternatives #Argentina #NicolasDujovne #tenac #emergingmarkets #EMinvesting

This episode is brought to you by Fintool. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process with Fintool: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm John Bowman, CEO of CAIA Association, the Association of Chartered Alternative Investment Analysts, joins Jack Farley on a special crossover episode of Monetary Matters and Other People’s Money to discuss the biggest trends in alternative investments. Bowman explains how Tariff uncertainty and other geopolitical factors might be the #1 factor that led to last year’s drop in PE assets, why he believes there is still another shoe to drop in private credit, and that hedge funds are coming back into vogue with alternatives investors. This episode is brought to you by Fintool, a financial copilot tailored for institutional investors. Fintool leverages Large Language Models (LLMs) to discover financial insights beyond the reach of timely human analysis. From summarizing extensive annual reports to computing numbers and unearthing new insights by comparing years of filings, Fintool equips institutional investors like Janus Henderson, First Manhattan and companies like PWC. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm Follow John Bowman on X: https://x.com/BowmanJohnL Follow CAIA on X: https://x.com/CAIAAssociation Follow Fintool on Twitter https://x.com/fintoolx Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

This episode is brought to you by Fintool. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process with Fintool: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm Toronto may be the financial capital of Canada but compared to NYC or London it does not quite have the same cachet for top hedge fund managers. This might be why Moez Kassam, CIO and Founder of Anson Funds, has flown under the radar of many keeping track of the industry’s titans while growing Anson Funds to over $2b in assets under management and putting together a track record of 15% annualized returns since inception in 2007. Known as a short selling specialist, Kassam shares his views on the art of shorting, dives into some of the other differentiated strategies Anson employs and explains how he attracts top talent to Toronto. This episode is brought to you by Fintool, a financial copilot tailored for institutional investors. Fintool leverages Large Language Models (LLMs) to discover financial insights beyond the reach of timely human analysis. From summarizing extensive annual reports to computing numbers and unearthing new insights by comparing years of filings, Fintool equips institutional investors like Janus Henderson, First Manhattan and companies like PWC. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm Follow Moez Kassam on X: https://x.com/MunchingMoez Follow Anson Funds on X: https://x.com/AnsonGroupFunds Follow Max Wiethe on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

Whether you are talking about hedge funds, private equity, private credit, or venture capital, alternative investment strategies are becoming a much larger part of the portfolios of individual investors. For many that’s being done through investment platforms targeting their registered investment advisors. Alan Strauss, senior partner at Crystal Capital Partners, joins OPM to discuss how alternative investment platforms like Crystal Capital are ushering in a new wave of adoption of alternative assets for RIAs and their clients by providing lower investment minimums, curated menus of top tier funds, and improved customization and investment “wrappers.” Are you a buyside professional looking to fast track your career? Sign up for the Fundamental Edge Analyst Academy and save 10% with coupon code OPM-10 at https://www.fundamentedge.com/opm Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Learn more about Crystal Capital Partners: https://www.crystalfunds.com Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:03 History of Fund of Funds 08:47 Early Alternatives Platforms 12:35 Who Invests on Alts Platforms 15:16 Customized Fund of Funds 19:26 Platform Fee Structures 20:46 What Types of Funds Thrive on Platforms 23:56 Fundamental Edge Analyst Academy 25:38 Smaller Fund Managers 27:01 What Gets a Fund Kicked Off Investment Platforms 29:59 The Rise of Private Market Investing 35:36 Newer Vintage Funds 39:10 how Do New Funds Got On Platforms 45:45 Sub Strategy Fund Trends 49:06 Advisor Influence on Fund Menus 53:07 Are Platforms Helping Smaller Fund Managers?

Ken Heinz, President of HFR Index LLC, joins Other People’s Money to break down the trends driving the hedge fund industry’s growth to a record $4.5 trillion in assets under management. HFR’s data on the industry that they collect and analyze from over 6,000 funds gives them a birds eye view of the big trends like the growth of multi-managers, crypto funds, and inflows for small and large funds alike. You can find more info on the HFR Database, HFR Indices, and other industry reports and resources for hedge fund investors and managers on their website: https://www.hfr.com Fast track your buyside career and save 10% with coupon code OPM-10 at https://www.fundamentedge.com/opm Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow HFR on Twitter: https://x.com/HFRinc Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Timestamps: 01:13 What is HFR? 02:45 What Qualifies as a Hedge Fund? 07:07 Classifying Your Hedge Fund Properly 10:15 Multi-Manager Hedge Fund Index 15:36 The Crypto Hedge Fund Boom 21:39 Fundamental Edge Analyst Academy 23:20 Hedge Fund Asset Growth 27:04 The Return of Capital Trend 29:47 Do Capital Flows Hurt Returns 31:49 Fund Formation Trends 38:09 Fund Closure Trends 39:44 Fund of Funds 43:46 The Bifurcation of the Hedge Fund Industry 49:22 The Future of Hedge Funds

Fast track your buyside career and save 10% with coupon code OPM-10 at https://www.fundamentedge.com/opm What does it take to succeed in one of the most competitive industries on the planet? Brett Caughran, lead trainer and founder at buyside analyst training platform Fundamental Edge is trying to codify the answer to that question and systematize the process of training hedge fund analysts. Caughran discusses the most important processes analysts must master, why understanding your role is key to success, and why building trust with your PM over years is the perhaps the most important factor in determining the trajectory of an analyst's career. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Brett Caughran on Twitter: https://x.com/FundamentEdge Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Hedge fund success both for their investors and operationally is almost always the result of a team effort. Ilya Zaides, CIO and Founder of 14B Capital Management, explains why this means hedge fund investors can care as much about team and key relationship stability as they do about past success. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Former fund manager and short seller Russell Clark has always believed that the key to adding value for investors is to solve for the biggest risks in their portfolios. He also argues it’s the key to successfully raising hedge fund assets. In this interview, Clark discusses the biggest risks he thinks investors face right now, why these risks have him considering relaunching his hedge fund after returning capital in 2021, and why if he does relaunch, he’s inverting the long short hedge fund model. You can read Russell's Substack here: https://www.russell-clark.com Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Russell Clark on Twitter: https://x.com/rampagingruss Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Almost everyone who works in finance dreams of one day showcasing their trading or investing prowess by starting their own hedge fund, but being a good trader is only one line item in a long list of skills required to be a successful hedge fund manager. Benn Eifert, Managing Partner of QVR Advisors, who himself has built his firm into one that manages $2 billion in assets, discusses the important interpersonal skills, operational considerations, and marketing duties that also fall squarely on the shoulders of the founding portfolio manager. Eifert also touches on why pod shops have been so dominant in attracting both assets and talent, his outlook for single managers and the hedge fund industry, and the growth of listed fund products using options and other derivatives. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Benn Eifert on Twitter: https://x.com/bennpeifert

If you weren’t in large and often expensive technology stocks you likely struggled as a hedge fund manager in 2024. For small/mid-cap value investors like Kyle Mowery, Portfolio Manager and Founder of Grizzly Rock Capital, who’ve sold their investors a mandate that makes it nearly impossible to go buy the NVIDIAs of the world you can only fall back on communication and the clear expectations you’ve set with your investors. The problems plaguing small cap value managers are not new though, and if you are still practicing what Mowery calls “the old ways,” 2024 was likely not the first tough year you’ve had to explain. Here, Mowery explains how he’s adjusted his strategy over 13 years of existence to adapt to changing market structure, why he thinks of you have skills joining a pod is better than starting your own fund, and things he would do differently if he was setting up Grizzly Rock in 2025. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Find more on Grizzly Rock Capital here: https://www.grizzlyrockcapital.com/

When was the last time you heard about an exciting new mutual fund launch? It’s probably been a while. Despite ETFs, hedge funds, and burgeoning asset classes like private credit taking all the headlines, mutual funds still control over $20 trillion in AUM. So, how does one raise assets in the 2020s with a product many associate with a time gone by? Eric Crittenden, CIO and Founder of Stand Point Asset Management, joins OPM to share how his mutual fund has done just that and reached over $1 billion in AUM in less than 5 years. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Standpoint on Twitter: https://x.com/StandpointFunds Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Having raised over $450m in less than 6 months, Warren Pies, Founder of 3Fourteen Research and Portfolio Manager of $FCTE, has had one of the most successful independent ETF launches of all time. Despite the seemingly overnight success of his fund management business, the real story is about the steady growth of his research business that feeds into everything they do.. He explains how his research business has become a pipeline of investor interest in his ETF business and how research relationships flip the traditional client interaction on its head. He also discusses why he chose to focus on setting good expectations with reasonable clients rather than playing the flashy retail newsletter game. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Warren Pies on Twitter: https://x.com/WarrenPies Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Noel Smith, founder of Convex Asset Management has spent most of his career outside of the world of managing other people’s money. Instead, he traded his own capital as a proprietary trader. Prop traders are famed for generating staggering rates of return, but because they have no interest in raising money, their secrets and strategies generally remain behind closed doors. However, he has decided to bring these strategies to the hedge fund world at Convex Asset Management and while they don’t scale to produce the same level of returns their lack of availability outside the prop world gives him differentiation in the product marketplace. In this interview, Smith explains why props can make so much more money, how much harder capital raising is than he anticipated, and why he ranks relationships and likability higher than performance when it comes to hedge fund success. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Noel Smith on Twitter: https://x.com/NoelConvex Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:16 What is Prop Trading? 10:51 Moving to the Hedge Fund World 16:36 The Hedge Fund Popularity Contest 23:04 Volatility Trading Strategies 27:27 Extracting Information From The Options Market 32:09 Scaling Prop Strategies 34:44 Alpha Degradation 39:31 Being Good Is Not Enough 48:03 Dealing With Extreme Performance 53:28 Long-term Vision For Convex Asset Management

Jamie Carter, Partner and Managing Director at Variis Partners has spent much of his career focused on the world of long-only emerging-market investment boutiques. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Carter discusses the huge differences between building a long only business and a hedge fund business, why launching fund vehicles out of the UK has become more difficult, the differences in raising capital in the US, UK, and Europe, and why he thinks emerging markets are the last hold outs for fundamental active managers. He also explains why EM investors and allocators are holding their collective breath waiting to see how the Trump administration’s policies will impact global markets. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR You can learn more about Variis Partners on their website: https://www.variispartners.co.uk Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Since Aristides Capital’s inception in August 2008, Chris Brown has returned over 1,000% for their investors with a stunning 16-year track record of no losing years. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Brown explains how they’ve been able to sustain these results and grow their business to over $300m in AUM all while operating far from the typical financial centers where hedge funds cluster. They discuss how accumulating a plethora of lower capacity strategies, hiring and working with “well intentioned nerds,” and maintaining rigorous processes for post-hoc analysis and feedback have been some of the keys to their investment success. They also touch on asset gathering from both HNW and institutional investors, attracting talent, and the reality that for small funds being in the top quartile or even decile of performance is a near necessity for reaching critical mass. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Chris Brown on Twitter: https://x.com/MidwestHedgie Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Ask anyone and they will tell you it has never been harder to start a hedge fund. That’s why so many of the most successful launches of late have been funds emerging from a prior firm with the backing of the big boss, otherwise known as spinouts. Julian Robertson’s Tiger Cubs are the perhaps most famous spinouts, but it is still an extremely popular trend today. Farid Guindo, CIO and founder of Drill Capital Management is taking advantage of these dynamics to launch his new fund with the backing of his mentor and former boss at Bornite Capital, Dan Dreyfus. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Guindo discusses the ins and outs of fund spinouts, the importance of transparency and relationship building with bosses and mentors, and how his experience working at Tiger Cubs and other spinouts solidified his belief that this was the right path for Drill Capital after deciding it was best to be a separate vehicle outside of the Bornite umbrella. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Farid Guindo on Twitter: https://x.com/FaridGuindo Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Dan Rasmussen has built his firm Verdad Capital into a billion-dollar asset manager on the back of one core activity, producing high quality research. Since Verdad’s inception in 2014, they have produced almost 500 pieces of research that they publish on their website weekly and distribute both on Twitter and to their large email list of readers. This research serves two functions. It’s both the backbone of the strategies employed at this highly quantitative firm, and a point of connection with existing and potential investors. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Rasmussen discusses how he’s used research to showcase his authentic self and build an audience that provides enumerable benefits. They also discuss the compliance process for publishing research, how he has built out his team and Verdad’s internship program, and why he takes a more SaaS approach to product market fit. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Dan Rasmussen on Twitter: https://x.com/verdadcap Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:43 The Value of Research and Verdad’s First Big Thesis 10:27 The SaaS Approach Product Market Fit 20:26 Investing in Human Capital 24:21 The Research and Publishing Process 28:41 Research as Brand Building 33:06 Compliance and Misconceptions About Public Statements 41:35 Authenticity and Investor Archetypes 46:07 Making Mistakes 49:45 Being Early on PE

Hedge fund strategies like distressed, long short equities, relative value, etc. are well defined and understood by allocators. As a result, funds that fit neatly into these style boxes can easily answer the question, “what type of fund are you?” But what if you don’t fit neatly into one of these boxes? Be too exact and no one will search for your niche strategy. Push the envelope to fit into one of these boxes and suddenly investors feel like they’ve been tricked into a meeting. This is a problem that Louis Camhi, founder and CIO of RLH Capital, has had to deal with since launching his SPAC focused strategy in 2021. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Camhi discusses why educating investors about SPACs and defining his fund for style box focused investors has been harder than finding interesting SPAC trades. They also touch on outsourcing back and middle office, the little things you don’t think about when you are working for a larger fund, and the tradeoffs between SMAs and pooled vehicles. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Louis Camhi on Twitter: https://x.com/valwithcatalyst Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow OPM on Twitter: https://x.com/OPMpod Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96

Harris Kupperman, CIO and Founder of Praetorian Capital joins Max Wiethe to share how he’s grown his firm to over $300 million in AUM, largely by breaking the institutional mold. They discuss Kupperman’s choice to build a strategy with UHNW investors and family offices in mind rather than traditional institutional investors and the benefits of a diversified base of LPs. They also discuss the firm’s blog Kuppy’s Korner, the importance of authenticity in brand building, and his choice to register the fund as a 506(c). Clarification: At 50:48 Harris mentions that almost half the capital in the fund is from gains. As of September 30th, 2024 44% of the capital is from gains. Sign up for Kuppy’s Korner at: https://pracap.com Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Harris Kupperman on Twitter: https://x.com/hkuppy Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow OPM on Twitter: https://x.com/OPMpod Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96

Building a successful hedge fund is hard. It’s even harder when you’re fighting the perpetual upward momentum of the market. Despite this headwind, Carson Block, CIO and Founder of Muddy Waters Capital, has made his firm into a successful fund management business and taken down billion-dollar frauds in the process. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Block explains why starting a fund became necessary to pursue activist short selling in a serious capacity, the pitfalls of capital raising and the different types of investors who are interested in specialized strategies like theirs, and how he is expanding his business with new strategies beyond activist short selling. Recorded on October 21st, 2024. Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR Follow Muddy Waters on Twitter: https://x.com/muddywatersre Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow OPM on Twitter: https://x.com/OPMpod

Max Wiethe interviews the very best investment fund managers about the business of Other People's Money. Max is in partnership with Jack Farley and Other People's Money is part of the Monetary Matters podcast network. Stay tuned for the first episode of Other People's Money with activist short seller Carson Block, airing in late October 2024. Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People's Money on Twitter https://x.com/OPMpod Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96