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Title: Corruption Exposed: The Rise and the Fall of the Molly Maguires Original Publication Date: Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/j65pqEY904M Description: Join us again, as we talk Friend of Ours, Joe Pascone of the Turning Tides History Podcast about the Molly Maguires. In this episode, we will wrap up the story of the Mollys and the transition of labor relations and unions in the Gilded Age into the Industrial Era. https://theturningtidespodcast.weebly.com/ #OrganizedCrime #MollyMaguires #CivilWarHistory #CorruptionExposed" You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime. With your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. Now that we've gone through that whole story with the, the Molly Maguires, and we've gone through so much of it with the Civil War, what was, Joe, what was the aftermath of the Civil War? How did that play out for this group of labor organizers and people and, you know, culture and everything? So, the Civil War, far from it being like this time of like, you know, there's this idea that after the Civil War, the country, everyone got [00:01:00] together, all the bad blood was kind of shed already, and only John Wilkes Booth really had a problem with what was going on and his conspirators. It's not really the case. In reality. There were huge, violent ramifications throughout the entire nation, not just with the start of Reconstruction. You saw the rise of the Ku Klux Klan and the Knight Riders in places like the South. Uh, and in the Anthracite region, you see serious reaction and hostility. These people, they argued for years that the Constitution should stay the same as it was, and the Union should stay the same as it was. That was no longer the case. Everything was turned on its head. And the entire economy basically contracted, uh, not just in America, across the entire planet. I cover Puerto Rico. The economy there completely falls off a cliff because for a long time, Puerto Rico was supplementing the cotton that was not being grown and exported from the [00:02:00] United States, or the Southern United States. Uh, so you see this huge contraction and it affects these miners specifically because with the leaving of these federal troops, uh, with the nosedive of, of needs to market, uh, the entire economy sputters and a bunch of people are left out on the streets. Uh, this, that means that a lot of people turn to highway robbery. They turn to things like, uh, bushwhackings of miners and stuff. And they turn to labor unrest, uh, some of the more moderate of them, I suppose, or the least violent. They turn to labor unrest, they try to start strikes. These strikes are usually not successful. There's a very long one in 1865, where coal executives planned a 33 percent pay cut. Uh, and so to dispatch this, uh, or to end this labor unrest, the government [00:03:00] dispatches troops, like, right away, almost immediately following the Civil War, May 1865. Uh, so the troops are there. They do such a good job that co executives come up with a new excuse for another Pennsylvania militia unit to be stationed there. The rest of the summer of 1865, um, in one of the more hilarious, uh, newspaper articles of all time, the Lebanon advertisers talking about the supposed uprising, and this is very tongue in cheek. They say several thousand have been killed. The Irish are murdering everybody. The country in general, and the streets of Pottsville in particular are crowded with blood thirsty miners who kill all but Irishmen. So at this point. A lot of this, I think that goes to show that newspaper clipping right there. A lot of this, these arguments against labor uprisings have become kind of hashed out and people are experiencing a [00:04:00] general sort of weariness against labor agitation. And, but the, but the bosses. Don't seem to mind this. This is how this guy, Franklin Gowan, comes into the picture. Gowan was, uh, I spoke about him in the first few parts here. He was born an Ulsterman, a Protestant Ulsterman. He was sent to a Catholic college because his father was incredibly, uh, he was for religious tolerance and liberation. And he's brought in as a lawyer for these coal executives because they need a legal excuse to bring in troops. Uh

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Title: Unveiling the Molly Maguires: Crime, Corruption, and Conflict Original Publication Date: Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/IP42hKmRmn0 Description: Dive into the gritty history of organized crime, the tumultuous era of the Molly Maguires, and the repercussions of corruption during civil unrest. Tune in to our latest episode feature Friend of Ours, Joe Pascone of the Turning Tides History Podcast. https://theturningtidespodcast.weebly.com/ #OrganizedCrime #MollyMaguires #CivilWarHistory #CorruptionExposed" You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime. With your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. Welcome back everybody. Today, I am joined as usual by Mustache Chris. We're blessed to have our, another member of our crew, Joe Pascone. You'll recognize his voice from other episodes, but you'll also recognize his voice as he is the voice of the. Organized crime and punishment commercial. So thank you so much for joining us today, Joe. [00:01:00] Uh, I guess to come up with a term, forget about it. No problem. Forget about it. Hey. Joe is going to join us today to talk about a really interesting aspect that brings together different shades of law enforcement, different shades of crime and organized crime, and all of this kind of blurs the line between organized crime and crime. Crime and the legal system, everything sort of gets blurred together. And that is in the story of the Molly Maguires. It might be a topic that people have heard of or heard a little bit of, but maybe don't know a lot about it, but it's a really critical aspect, but it's kind of nestled inside of many aspects of American history. And let's, I think the best way to get into this is, let's just get right into it. Uh, Joe, what got you interested in thinking about these Molly Maguires? So the Molly Maguires [00:02:00] first came to my attention. I'm doing a massive series currently on the American labor movement, rise of trade unions, labor unions, and they were sort of the first, they're considered the first labor martyrs in American history. Um, whether they deserve that distinction, we can get into it for sure. They were, their trial, they were railroaded, it was railroaded through, at the end of it, 20 people hung, uh, in, in, in America. Simply because they were a part of this thing called the Ancient Order of Hibernians. Uh, but, so how do you get into this? How do you talk about something so complicated with so many levels? Uh, especially about an Irish American secret society with labor union and political organizations a part of it and all the rest. The best way to do that, I think, is with a Hindu proverb from, from India, uh, obviously. So, of course, so I got this proverb from the Mark Bullock book, The Sons of [00:03:00] Molly Maguire, The Irish Roots of America's First Labor War. In it, the Indian king is Faced with calamity, the prime minister comes to him, says, we need to make a decision on, you know, disease, ravaging the land, catastrophe, whatever war doesn't matter. Uh, he says, okay, sure. Fine. But first I need three blind men and an elephant. Uh, so the prime minister is like, okay, I don't really see the point of this, but let's go through with this. The three blind men and the elephant are brought before the King and the King asked the three blind men. To describe the elephant for him. So one is trying to put one of the blind men is trying to put his arms around the waist of the elephant. And he says, the, the, the elephant's like a barrel. Another one is trying to measure how high, how tall the elephant is. He says, no, the elephant's like a tree. The last one is feeling the elephant's tusks. And he says, no, you're both wrong. The elephant is like a spear. So just like the Molly Maguire's and the elephant. [00:04:00] They are all of these things and none of them at the same time, uh, bear with me, . So they were in a sense, a barrel because they insulated and protected the Irish community that they were a part of. They were a tree because they had branches that extended to neighboring communities and, and neighboring Irish, uh, Irish people around them in coal country and in Ireland originally. Uh, and they were like a spear, because they acte

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Title: Behind the Badge: A Cop's Take on Must-Watch Cop Movies Original Publication Date: 12/20/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/LDqmp2b3zG7 Description: Former Spokane Police Captain Frank Scalise takes us on a cinematic journey in our latest episode, sharing his top picks for cop movies. Tune in as he delves into these thrilling tales and discusses the impact these films have had on law enforcement. From classics to modern gems, get ready for an inside look at the silver screen's portrayal of policing. #CopMovies #PodcastEpisode #LawEnforcementCinema You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: I'd like to welcome back Frank, now officially a made member of the Organized Crime and Punishment crew. I'd also like to spend out special thanks in this episode to another member of our crew, Joe Pascone of the Turning Tides. History podcast for providing the voiceover for the new Organized Crime and Punish promotional audio. You'll be hearing more from Joe in the future. To find out more about Joe, Frank, and our crew, look for links in the show notes. Uh, Frank, maybe, I don't know if we've gotten into this too much, but maybe you could, uh, this might be a good time to drop if there's any plugs you want to do, uh, now that you're a made man on to some of your other projects. The action I got going on on the side there, is that you mean I don't know if I want to tell you that I'll have to kick up a little more. Um, well, I mean, I, I think the reason that, that, that you invited me to come on the show [00:01:00] occasionally is my law enforcement background, which we talked about before, uh, 20 years of, of, of being a police officer, about half of it on the street and about half of it in leadership roles. And then, uh, about 4 years teaching leadership in the U. S., all over the U. S. and Canada after that. And, and so that gave me a pretty wide perspective that, that I think at times can be valuable. Other times I don't know anything. But, um, in addition to that, I also write crime fiction. I write greedy crime fiction from both sides of the badge, as Frank Zaffiro. And so, uh, I've written about 40 books, some are police procedurals, some are hard boiled, some are private detective novels. Uh, pretty much unless it's a cozy, if you like mystery, I've got it for you. Um, and people can check out frank safiro. com and learn more if they're interested. Awesome. Frank mustache. Chris and I are today are going to tap into and lean into Frank's cop background with a show today of our [00:02:00] favorite police movies, cop movies. And these movies we really get, we get crime, we get punishment, we get drama and really everything else you want from entertainment out of these great movies. And I think we will eventually discuss the corollary of the Cop movie, the corollary to the cop movie genre, the cop television procedural, that's a different episode for a different day. Before we dive into it, I'll share a little, uh, anecdote I had about police movies. I was sitting in a, I was at a party with a friend of mine, and he had all of his cop buddies there. And I just asked, I was like, what do you think about cop movies? And they all kind of, like, groaned, because. They didn't, they did cop stuff all day. They didn't really want to go and watch it as entertainment. And I wonder, what did you, what do you feel about that? When you watch them, are you able to watch them and kind of separate the professional side of you and just enjoy them? Yeah, I always was. I [00:03:00] mean, I used to joke that. You know, when you're trying to get on the job and then your 1st year on the job, you would watch the TV show cops all the time when you were off duty. And then by the time you've been on the job for about a year, you never watch it again in your life. Unless it's a training video at the academy or something that they use because it's a busman's holiday. But it's not, the same is not true with, uh, with good television shows and definitely not with good movies. I always enjoyed a good police related movie. I mean, I got to be particular about mistakes at times, although, you know, you can overlook that if the story's good and all that. Um, but just like any profession, you pick out the things that aren't, aren't real. Uh, but I, yeah, it wasn't ruined for me at all.

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Title: Inside Attica: Corruption and Reform Original Publication Date: 11/22/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/bWpV7Wwemxf Description: Joe Pascone from the Turning Tides History Podcast joins us to delve into the gripping story of the Attica prison riots and their lasting impact on the landscape of prison reform. Unravel the layers of this historic event as we explore its catalysts, the unfolding of events, and its reverberating effects on the criminal justice system. Discover how the Attica uprising sparked a national conversation on prison conditions, human rights, and the pursuit of justice. Join us in this insightful conversation shedding light on a pivotal moment in history and its enduring significance. #AtticaPrison #PrisonReform #TurningTidesHistory #CriminalJusticeReform You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime, with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. Welcome back, guys. I am very excited to be joined by a very special guest today, Joseph Pascone, host of Turning Tides History Podcast, and he did a really special episode, or a series of episodes, on the Attica. Uprising from the early 1970s, and I thought that tied together really well with what we're talking about in organized crime and the punishment [00:01:00] aspect of organized crime as well, and crime in general. So thank you so much for coming on, Joe. If people have listened to my other podcast, the History of the Papacy podcast, Joe Picon did a really helpful. Full primer on the resurgent Mento, and he has a really detailed series on that. So definitely go and check those out and then check out all of his other work as well. Hey, thank you so much for having me on Steve. And yeah, I did a, maybe a bit too detailed of a series on the risk argument though but I definitely did it. It was a lot of fun and the Attica one just came out. And I'm just chugging along here over on my end. I think that this is a really interesting topic, the Attica uprising, because it brings together so many threads of society, crime, and in a lot of ways, it's touched our lives personally being New Yorkers who are expats from New York. And so it gives us a, I think we have. A very interesting way to look at this objectively and [00:02:00] subjectively, especially being that it, the incident happened well before either of us was born. So I think we have a little bit of perspective on it, but it's also close to both of us as well. Yeah, in a historical sense, it happened yesterday. Basically, it may as well have. It happened, the retaking and the uprising happened in a few days in September 1971 at, like you said, Attica. And this wasn't like an insular event. This was a culmination of basically the 60s. This was all the best and the worst parts of the 60s kind of thrown into a pot and it just exploded over into the deaths of 44 people. And it was probably the biggest mass shooting, if you could call it that, up until the present day. And it was completely sanctioned by the state. I think the best place you could probably start the story is, I started, at least in my series, with 1865, because that to me is when race relations sort of start in [00:03:00] America. Previously to that, there were a handful of free African Americans, sure. But the vast majority were enslaved peoples who were treated literally like property. Supreme court decided these people were property. You could bring them across state lines, just like you could bring a chair across the state line and it still counts as yours. After the civil war. Millions and millions of free blacks were given the right to vote. They were given civil rights. They were elected to Congress. They were elected as representatives. They were elected as governors. In 1870, there was a black governor in Louisiana, for example, once reconstructing, reconstruction sort of ends with Rutherford B. Hayes that's it all the reforms of the previous era go out the window black codes, Jim Crow laws, they come into effect, not just in the South, but in the North as well. It's just the segregated. In the north as it is in the south, just in a different way. It's not the same overt racism like, oh, this is the good old [00:04:00] south. So this is how it'

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Title: Donnie Brasco Fighting the Bureaucracy Original Publication Date: 11/15/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/Hy2Rf4ymHZB Description: Today we have a brief episode on an interesting perspective on Donnie Brasco from the perspective of a 20 police veteran and former police leader, Frank Scalise. Did Donnie’s leadership in the FBI manage his uncover work correctly? What could have Donnie’s leadership done better in the aftermath of his groundbreaking investigation? You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Thank you for joining Mustache Chris and I on Organized Crime and Punishment, a history and crime podcast. Here is a teaser for upcoming episodes of Organized Crime and Punishment. If you like what you hear, look in the description for links to full podcast episodes. Become a friend of ours by subscribing to the show and following us on social media. Tell a friend about Organized Crime and Punishment so your friends can become friends of ours. Forget about it. Hey friends of ours. Let's talk a little Donnie Brasco. Now as a retired cop with 20 with a 20 year career who spent another four years after that teaching leadership all over the U S and Canada, I've come into contact with a lot of law enforcement agencies. Now honestly, these organizations are just chock full of good people who work hard and do their best, but any bureaucracy is like any other bureaucracy and mission drift is a real thing. [00:01:00] Now, so what does this have to do with Donnie Brasco? You might ask. Sadly, one of the most realistic scenes for me from a law enforcement perspective in the entire movie was the one in which a distracted leader gives Joe Pistone an award for his service in a very hurried fashion. thIs guy gave up years of his life facing constant danger the entire time. And the FBI ceremony that honored him took less time than you're taking to watch this video. I don't know how accurate a portrayal that was to Pistone's actual experience. If you do, by the way, please share it in the comments. But unfortunately this kind of bungling is all too common. In bureaucracies and in, in the law enforcement profession on the bureaucratic side as well, a thoughtful leader will make sure something like this doesn't happen to, to a valued employee. But anyway, it's probably the most realistic scene in a movie full of realistic scenes. Now the best [00:02:00] scene. That's when Johnny Depp explains, forget about it. Do you know if that's accurate with the Joe Pistone award ceremony being super rushed in? I know for, I know he was, he became really jaded with the FBI. He left. At one point just cause he didn't feel appreciated. And he started having troubles with the officers above him, like telling him how to do his job. And I was undercover for how many years, like I, the most successful undercover job, probably in American history. And you're telling me how to do things. And he just got fed up with it. If you actually listen to Joe Pistone talk, he has a very. I totally believe that he was that successful at playing a mob guy, cause he has a very kind of street, talk, working class type vibe to him. He really does. You hear him talk and he, I know he's what, how old is he now? He's 70. You hear him talk though. And he sounds like [00:03:00] a guy you don't want to mess with. We we showed that video in the leadership course that I taught and as just as a a warning, as a don't do this sort of thing because it's such a simple thing to recognize people who do good work in a way that's meaningful and just the slapdashery way in that scene with With the official who, could barely be bothered to be there. And, and then they gave him 500 bucks, which just don't even give you any money, I think in that scenario, because 500 bucks is like kind of an insult after six years or whatever you spend undercover. That's 80 bucks a year. It's just, I don't know. It always struck me as wow, I've seen that exact scene play out. In real life on a smaller scale. And it's just sad because it's like self inflicted as a leader. You don't, you've got total control over that. It's not a disaster that's happening from outside or a crisis that's being thrust upon you. This is just taking an extra three minutes and a little bit of [00:04:00] emotional energy to make it meaningful for som

Title: Behind the Badge: Unmasking and Preventing Police Corruption Original Publication Date: 11/8/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/3mw7dv9a5a8 Description: In this episode, we delve into a crucial topic: Police Corruption and the challenges officers face daily. We'll also discuss effective measures to prevent such corruption in law enforcement. This episode features 20 year police captain and police fiction author Frank Scalise. https://www.frankzafiro.com/ #PoliceCorruption #LawEnforcement #CommunityPolicing #PreventCorruption #PoliceAccountability You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime, with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. I started to think about another form of, I guess it could be corruption, and it comes out of the fact that policing, like just about anything else, Is a lot more subjective than it is the objective and, uh, and baseball. Now they have it where they have the AI calling balls and strikes and. Seriously, it's experimental and, uh, and then they'll go to it. Uh, if, uh, they can, that you can challenge [00:01:00] it. But there's a lot of subjectivity to a ball and a strike. Now you could have it where you see somebody who maybe rolls through a stop and, uh, should I give them a ticket? Did I really see it the right way? But you could also see it where somebody blows past a stops, uh, stop red light past the school bus. But it's 10 minutes before your shift is supposed to end and you really don't feel like staying over. And I got to get my kid to this and that, and, uh, I'm not going to, that's got kind of a corruption in a way. Well, policing requires a great deal of discretion. That's no question. And I think if you're going to examine but. Apples to apples is a better way to look at it, right? So if you're talking about somebody rolling through a stop, are you working that intersection? Are you writing tickets? You stop. I stopped Chris. I don't know him. He gets a [00:02:00] ticket. I stopped Steve. We went to high school together. In fact, we play baseball together. Uh, you know, I'm going to give you a warning this time. Is that correct? You know, I was not a traffic count. I, I gave a lot of warnings and my, my rule of thumb essentially was, is if I stopped you and we had a short conversation and I thought that our conversation had a likelihood of affecting your future behavior, then I didn't see the need for something punitive. To, to do it. If you just basically wouldn't admit that you ran through the stop sign or you were a jerk or whatever, it's clear. I wasn't going to impact your future behavior. Then my only other option was, well, let's see if a financial penalty will influence your future. Because my role is to, it's not to do anything about the stop sign you just ran. It's to stop you from doing it again, because that's how I make that intersection safe. Well, you know, there's a lot of discretion. That's discretion, right? I mean, if I talk to Chris and he's a jerk and I don't know it and he gets a ticket and I talked to Steve and I went to high school with him and he's like, [00:03:00] yeah, man, that was stupid. I normally don't do that. I will never do that again. If I will try to never do that again. I'm really sorry. And I cut you a break. Is that corruption? Because I didn't treat you equally. I may have treated you fairly, but I didn't treat you equally. And so even when you go apples to apples, it's hard, you know, you could get into long discussions, which we did in the leadership course, the ethics section, especially, but throughout the entire course, we got into discussions like this about what corruption was. Was this okay? Was that okay? What variables would impact whether it was okay or not? And I mean, I found Canadians to be, uh, much more, uh, much less tolerant of. Bad behavior, but also much more reasonable in, like, common sense ways of handling things than in some of the places I was in the States. I mean, we're not all idiots down here. That got a lot of good answers from US officers too, but it's an interesting conversation, but you do kind of have to be apples to apples. Otherwise it doesn't entirely work. Right? So, but lots of [00:04:00] discretion and and w

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Title: Noble Cause Corruption: Police Corruption for All the Best Reasons? Original Publication Date: 11/1/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/YErXOzeB214 Description: In today’s episode of Organized Crime and Punishment, we explore the intricate relationship between law enforcement and crime. We look into the complexities, ethical dilemmas, and consequences that arise when these two worlds collide. Join us as we unravel the hidden aspects of this captivating intersection. This episode features 20 year police captain and true crime author Frank Scalise. https://www.frankzafiro.com/ #PoliceCorruption #OrganizedCrimePodcast #CriminalUnderworld #CrimeAndJustice #CorruptCops #UnveilingTheTruth You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. Thanks for joining us again on Organized Crime and Punishment. I'm your host, Steve, and I am joined as usual by our own Mustache Chris. Today, we have a very special guest, our first guest, guest, uh, as it were. Frank Scalise. Frank is a retired Spokane, Washington police officer. Is it Spokane, Spokane, Spokane? It's definitely, it is definitely Spokane, not Spokane, not Spokant, but Spokane. [00:01:00] Frank served at every level from patrolman to captain in his 20 year career. Look for Frank to be a fixture on the podcast to provide the law enforcement aspect of crime and punishment. In this first episode of a, of a series where we're going to begin to discuss law enforcement, we will discuss a serious topic in policing that of corruption. Police corruption is a really complicated topic and a really a fascinating one. And I'm really excited to have Frank here to lead us through this, uh, in some ways, difficult conversation. Thank you so much for joining us today, Frank. Well, thanks for having me. I'm excited to talk about this too. And I think it's, uh, going to lend itself to an interesting discussion, given that, you know, I'm up in the Pacific Northwest. Uh, you're down in Texas, I think, by way of the Northeast. Yeah. And, and, and Chris is up in Toronto area there in Ontario, um, in Canada. So, I mean, [00:02:00] there, there's that. Cultural divides there, and I think that comes into play when we're talking about this topic. So it'll be interesting to hear the different viewpoints. And now, Frank, can you, we'll get into a lot of details of your biography, but can you maybe give us a 10, 000 foot view about yourself and your police career and then your post police career? Uh, sure. The, uh, thumbnail sketch is I came on the job in Spokane, Washington in 1993. For people who don't know anything about Spokane, it's in Eastern Washington. Um, I think it's about 250, 000 people. Now it was closer to 200, uh, even to 10, maybe when I came on, uh, in my career, I was kind of fortunate. Uh, not kind of. I was very fortunate. And then I spent the first half of my career doing the job where the, where the rubber meets the road. I was patrol officer training officer. I was a detective. I was a corporal. Um, and, and I, so I did the work that that police are there to [00:03:00] do about halfway through my career. I kind of fell backwards into a leadership. Position, uh, as a sergeant and, and had to reassess my career a bit in terms of what I wanted to accomplish and, and, and what leadership meant and, and I embrace that. So, uh, I spent the 2nd, half of my career in leadership roles and I retired as a captain. The good thing about that was. I did some different things in patrol and in investigations, but I got to see an even greater breadth of the department in my leadership roles. And so. Like, I got to command, for instance, the canine unit. Um, now, I learned a lot about canines. I mean, I couldn't have jumped in the car and taken a shift for one of the guys if they were sick. Uh, not even close. I didn't know a hundredth of what they knew. But I knew enough, uh, I knew a hundred times more than the public did though. So, I mean, it was a good education. And, and that happened in every unit that I was fortunate enough to, to command during my career. And, and so this gave me [00:04:00] a little bit of a different view than say, someone who spent their entir

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Title: Mafia and Church Original Publication Date: 10/25/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/BZyv8VrPajJ Description: Today we have a special crossover episode between the History of the Papacy Podcast and Organized Crime and Punishment. Chris and Steve talk about how much religion, particularly the Catholic Church, has impacted the Mafia and how the Mafia has impacted the Catholic Church. This relationship goes far into the past and exists to this very day! You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ By Quirinale.it, Attribution, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=129042272 Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime, with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. Thank you for joining me again today. I have a special program today featuring the brand new podcast I've launched with my co host, Mustache Chris. called Organized Crime and Punishment, a history and crime podcast. Organized Crime and Punishment takes the true crime genre and injects it with the heavy dose of the, uh, the much needed history podcast genre. Mustache Chris and I will... Take you through [00:01:00] some of the most fascinating topics in organized crime throughout the history of the United States, and even beyond the United States. And a lot of it is actually gonna cross over with history of the Papa c and in coming episodes and seasons. Mustache. Why don't you introduce yourself to the history of the Papacy audience nicknames, uh, mustache. Chris was the story behind that, but you'll have to listen to the new podcast too. Uh, Get why I have that nickname. I have a mustache, but there's a, there's a little more for it too. Yeah. I don't know if you ever listened to Steve's like beyond the big screen podcast. It became like quite frequent guest on there. Um, you know, we're discussing movies and. You know, this, this new show that we're going to be doing, uh, came about because we were discussing mafia movies and we were both, uh, kind of history dorks and, um, you know, one thing led to another and the series just kept on getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And we decided this, why don't we just do [00:02:00] a history of organized crime in general? You know, just we're going to do the mafia, but, you know, we're talking about doing, you know, all around the world. So we really, it was, we needed to get set free from being held back by. We had to tie something into a movie and we could really go where we wanted to go and follow the history. Wherever it took us, and it's taking us in all sorts of interesting places, which really ties into today's episode. We're going to let you wet your beak a little bit on what Mustache Chris and I will offer in this new podcast series with an episode on the history of the Catholic Church and the Mafia. We'll discuss a few of the people and events where the Mafia and the Church... Collided and crossed over. If you want to learn more and subscribe to organized crime and punishment, you can find it on Spotify, Apple podcasts, your podcatcher of choice, and on YouTube. And if you enjoy [00:03:00] what you hear, make sure you tell a friend about this podcast so that they can be friend of friends of ours. So let me give you a little background, basically. The Roman Catholic Church has had a very strange relationship with various organized crime organizations in southern Italy since they formed in at least the 1800s and even earlier. The full history of the local organized crime outfits in Italy, such as La Cosa Nostra in Sicily, the Camorra, and the Campania region of Italy, and the Um, Ju. Undrangheta of Calabria is really long and something we will get into more properly in the Organized Crime and Punishment podcast. As we've learned throughout this entire series on the popes of the 19th century, the popes hated secret societies that rose in the 19th century, like [00:04:00] the Carbonari, the Freemasons, and others. And even though the La Cosa Nostra, the Camorra, the Uyghurs, and the Calabrians, the Calabrian Gondreta, where secrets, were secret societies and the popes and the church in general hated secret societies. These mafia societies were really quite different than the secular societies. You've read into those ones a bit, Chris. What do you, what would

After the War: Key WW2 ETO LeadersSHOW NOTES: In this episode of Key Battles of American History, host James Early and his guest Sean McIver follow a long-established Key Battles tradition by giving brief overviews of the postwar lives and careers of the major leaders, Axis and Allies, discussed in the series. Subscribe to Key Battles of American History!Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3nCfZZySpotify: https://spoti.fi/3nIwO5cListen to more episodes of Key Battles of American History!The Longest Day: D-Day and the Normandy Campaign: https://apple.co/46jPeuw / https://sptfy.com/P2g7Saving Private Ryan: https://apple.co/3Q9z0i4 / https://sptfy.com/P2g6 Hitler’s Last Gambit: The Battle of the Bulge: https://apple.co/3tprLJN / https://sptfy.com/P2g4 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Title: The Danbury Trashers -Trash On and Off the Rink Original Publication Date: 10/18/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/fGOuaYx9PwB Description: In the second part of the Organized Crime and Punishment podcast's two-part episode on the Danbury Trashers, the focus remains on the intriguing story of this minor league hockey team's entanglement with organized crime. In this episode, the hosts delve deeper into the Trashers' ties to the underworld and the consequences faced by those involved. They explore the team's financial dealings with notorious figures, highlighting how this partnership impacted both the players and the league itself. The episode also sheds light on the legal repercussions faced by key individuals within the organization, offering a gripping account of their trials and punishments. Throughout, the Steve, Mustache and Frank discuss hockey, law enforcement and the Mafia to provide a comprehensive understanding of this remarkable tale. Best Hashtags: #DanburyTrashers #OrganizedCrime #HockeyUnderworld #CrimeAndPunishment #MinorLeagueHockey #hockey #NHL You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime, with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. Hey, friends of ours, this is Steve here. This is the second part of a two part conversation on the Mafia and Hockey. I'm joined by Frank and, as usual, Mustache Chris. If you like what you hear, you can go back and listen to part one to get some more context for this episode, or just dive right in. They both work really well individually, or even better as a team. So let's dive [00:01:00] right in. One of the corollaries to the, to the wrestling aspect of it was the fighting, and anybody who's even semi aware of hockey. Knows that fighting is a part of hockey, Chris, and then we'll bounce it over to Frank. What's your opinion on fighting in hockey? I'll say right off the bat, like it is kind of bizarre. We're I think it was, uh, there's a clip, there's a famous clip of, like, Joe Rogan talking about hockey, and it's just like, it's the weirdest sport in the world, where, like, they're just playing the sport, and then all of a sudden, people are dropping the gloves, and they're just beating the crap out of each other, and it is truly bizarre, there's no other sport in the world that just, that happens, there isn't, like, I know there's, like, a little bit of roughhousing in football, and once in a while, maybe, people in basketball, they're like, Throw some slaps and maybe sometimes in baseball people will like charge them out. But like, like a, like a fist fight, like a one on one fist fight that goes on in hockey, like there's [00:02:00] nothing compares to it. And the fact that like, say like happens in baseball, it's like, oh, like that's out of the ordinary in hockey. It's like, no, it's just part of the game. This is what you do. It's, it's, uh, it's interesting, like the history of fighting and hockey from everything that I've read, like really early on. It wasn't all that common, uh, like it would happen, obviously, right? Uh, you know, like, more frequently than any other sport. It actually, I believe it was around the 60s and 70s is when it really started kicking off where teams like the the Flyers, as Frank will probably tell you about, um, Saw an opportunity where they maybe they weren't as skilled as some of the other teams, but the intimidation factor fighting and the hard hitting, uh, became like a level or so you could bring the basically like kind of nullify this skill and the speed of another team if you beat the crap out of them enough. And I mean, it works. It's part of the [00:03:00] game, really. There's no way around it. It's just, um, I don't think it's ever going to leave. I mean, I'm quite, I'm, to be honest with you, I'm happy. They've changed a bunch of rules where, and just because the rule changes, the game has gone so much faster. So you can't just have like a guy out there whose, whose only job is to like fight. There's still a couple of them. I mean, the Leafs just kind of recently signed a guy named Ryan Reeves. He's like the heavyweight champ of hockey right now. But, yeah. He can still play to a degree. He can't play like, not gonna be playing him

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Title: The Danbury Trashers – Skating on Thin Ice Original Publication Date: 10/11/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/iwB0rOeBrF9 Description: In the first part of this two-part episode of Organized Crime and Punishment, Frank, Mustache Chris and Steve delve into the intriguing story of the Danbury Trashers hockey team. Founded by James Galante, a prominent figure in the waste management industry with alleged connections to organized crime, the Trashers' rise to notoriety is a fascinating tale of sports, business, and criminal influence. In this episode, we explore the origins of the team and how it became a symbol of defiance against the established hockey world. We discuss the controversial figures involved, the Trashers' unique marketing strategies, and the tensions that arose as they challenged the status quo in minor league hockey. #DanburyTrashers #OrganizedCrime #HockeyHistory #SportsScandal #JamesGalante #MinorLeagueHockey #hockey #NHL You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. I'd like to welcome everybody back to a special Episode of Organized Crime and Punishment. We're joined not only by Mustache Chris, but also our new contributor on this series, and hopefully many series to come, Frank Scalise, and you will be aware of him. Frank Scalise from some of our previous episodes, Frank Scalise was a 20 year officer with the Spokane police department. Uh, so [00:01:00] he's going to give us a law enforcement perspective, but today he's also going to give us both. Frank and mustache. Chris are going to give us a perspective on crime, but not only crime, but a mutual passion of theirs of hockey. As we talk about a really. Fascinating piece of history, of hockey history and the mafia history with the hockey team called the Danbury Trashers. And we're going to have a really wide ranging conversation about organized crime, hockey, hockey meets organized crime, and much, much more. Maybe we'll start with Chris. Can you give us a little bit of background on why you came up with this episode, because you had come up with this episode just for people. If you want to really dig in deep, even more into this. There is a Netflix documentary on the Danbury trashers, but we're going to go into some other avenues on this story. Chris. [00:02:00] But to start us off, what got you interested in this particular topic? And why did you think it might be a good one for a collaboration? When me and Frank and you all talked previously on the, the previous episodes, we, what you guys didn't really hear was, uh, me and Frank talking about hockey and Frank's a Flyers fan. I'm a Maple Leaf fan and we just hit it off right away because I don't know, I guess we're both like, uh, hockey nerds. Uh, you know, it's not very often you meet people who can remember players like, You know, Donald Breshear and, you know, from way back in the day, and we were talking about even when the Flyers beat the Leafs in the playoffs and almost immediately after we finished our conversation, I remembered, oh, yeah, there's a documentary that literally is about hockey and organized crime, and it would fit perfectly for the show. And why wouldn't I want to talk about probably two of my most favorite things now? Um, what did you think? What was your first [00:03:00] blush of this? Frank, when you watched the documentary, I had watched it once before, uh, shortly after I think it first came out. My wife. Watched it and said, you would love this. It's hockey and the mob and it's a fascinating story. So I checked it out. But when, when Chris brought it up as a possible discussion point here, I went back and watched it again just earlier this week. And Christie and I sat down and what struck me about it was how, how completely. Interwoven the two topics were, I mean, the things that were happening that were mob related in this story were tied directly into things that were happening to the, the hockey element of the story and, and there were just a lot of different things that I'm sure we'll touch on that, that, that reached out and grabbed me by the throat and said, Hey, this is pretty interesting, um, as a huge hockey fan and, and, uh, an

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Title: The Italian Squad: Unmasking New York's Crimefighters Original Publication Date: 10/4/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/gYDhPsotOyw Description: In this episode of "Organized Crime and Punishment," we are joined by author Paul Moses to dive deep into the pages of his latest work, "The Italian Squad." This gripping narrative explores the fascinating history of law enforcement's battle against organized crime, specifically focusing on the dedicated officers of the Italian Squad. The Italian Squad, formed in the early 20th century, played a pivotal role in dismantling powerful criminal syndicates in New York City. Moses' book sheds light on their relentless pursuit of justice, often at great personal risk. Key takeaways include the Squad's innovative investigative techniques, their impact on organized crime, and the enduring legacy of these courageous officers. We also discuss the broader implications of their work in the context of today's criminal justice system. #OrganizedCrime #TheItalianSquad #LawEnforcement #TrueCrime #PodcastDiscussion You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. Welcome back to Organized Crime and Punishment. Steve here, uh, with a special interview with a really fascinating topic, and it's a topic that, uh, Mustache Chris and I will definitely dive into more, but this was just the perfect opportunity to talk with Paul Moses, who is the author of The Italian Squad. The true story of the immigrant cops who fought the rise [00:01:00] of the mafia. And this is a really fascinating story because it falls outside of what most people traditionally think of the mafia in the timeline of generally the later part of the 20th century. And this is going way back. So Paul, maybe you can tell us, um, what got you interested in this topic of the Italian squad? Sure. Well, I had done a previous book called an unlikely union, the love hate story of New York's Irish and Italians. And in that book, I focused, uh, I had one chapter on what it was like for people within the Italian immigrants in the NYPD, uh, to try to advance in a department that was really, uh, very much controlled by the Irish, uh, either immigrants or later generations. And they, they had a rough time of it, and the Italian community itself had, had pretty, um, rough relations with the, uh, NYPD in, in that, in that [00:02:00] era. Uh, there was a lot of ethnic friction. So, in doing that, I included a chapter that told the story of, uh, Joseph Petrosino, who was the founding detective of the, uh, NYPD's Italian squad in 1904. And from the, mostly from the point of view of what it was like for him as an Italian immigrant to try to be the go between between the Italian community and the NYPD so. His story is really interesting. It's, it's been told quite a bit, but I saw that he's after Petrosino. He's, he's murdered while on a mission to Sicily in 1909. Um, and generally stories about the Italian squad, uh, kind of stopped there, but the squad went on to 1922 and I saw that that. Part of the story really wasn't told that much. And it was just as fascinating as the better known story of Joseph Petruzzino's service. It's a fascinating story because Petruzzino goes, [00:03:00] maybe we can, before we even get into Petruzzino and the whole story of the Italian squad, they're fighting against Organized Italian organized crime, and it's referred to at that time as period as the Black Hand. What was the Black Hand? Yeah, the Black Hand, uh, was seen by many people in that time as being, uh, a giant, uh, sinister underground organization probably controlled by criminals in Italy. It wasn't that at all. It wasn't a mafia kind of thing. It was really in the isolated or independent groups of thugs who realized that if you sent a letter to somebody with a black hand on it and use enough threats that it may force somebody to to pay off. And so it actually really found its oxygen in the news coverage that made it seem like a, uh, international conspiracy. Uh, and [00:04:00] that's not to say that people using the black hand label or to be taken lightly. Uh, you know, they did many bombings, kidnappings and serious crimes that

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In this special compilation episode, Josh Cohen of Eyewitness History shares his favorite interview moments and stories from people who witnessed some of history’s most extraordinary events. First up, revisit his conversation with Frank DeAngelis, former principal of Columbine High School, recounting the harrowing events of the 1999 massacre. Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Ow8UF0 / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMr Next, dive into the world of podcasting with the podfather himself, Adam Curry. Discover the fascinating tale of his MTV days and presenting an award to Michael Jackson. Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Df7jgn / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMt CIA Agent Valerie Plame takes the spotlight in the next segment, shedding light on the notorious 'Plame Affair' of 2003. Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/48gSyYx / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMw Sports enthusiasts, get ready! HBO Boxing legend Jim Lampley shares his experiences covering the 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid, including the unforgettable 'Miracle on Ice.' Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3YeyxNZ / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMx Jonestown cult survivor and writer Eugene Smith takes a solemn turn as he revisits his journey through tragedy and survival. Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/451VIgu / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMz Rock music lovers, stay tuned for insights from Ken Caillat, the record producer behind Fleetwood Mac's iconic albums, including the Emmy-winning 'Rumors.' Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3rhuyEb / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMB Hear from DEA Agents Steve Murphy and Javier Peña, the real-life heroes who took down Pablo Escobar, inspiring the hit Netflix series 'Narcos.' Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3r5Cf0h / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMD Podcasting sensation Jordan Harbinger shares his adventures and observations in North Korea. Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3JXYmfe / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMF And finally, wrap up with a legendary performance – an interview with Queen's keyboardist, Spike Edney, discussing their iconic set at Live Aid in 1985. Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Roxxp6 / Spotify: https://sptfy.com/OWMH See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The New True Crime Original Publication Date: Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/QWoFx383Nq0 Description: In this episode of Organized Crime and Punishment, we had the pleasure of interviewing Diana Rickard, the brilliant author behind the groundbreaking book, "The New True Crime: How the Rise of Serialized Storytelling Is Transforming Innocence." Diana took us on a captivating journey through the world of true crime narratives and how they have evolved with the advent of serialized storytelling. Diana shared her deep insights into the impact of these gripping narratives on our perception of innocence, drawing from her extensive research and expertise. We delved into the ethical considerations surrounding the portrayal of real-life criminal cases in serial formats, exploring the blurred lines between entertainment and journalism. #TrueCrimeEvolution #SerializedStorytelling #InnocenceInFocus #CrimeNarratives #AuthorInterview You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. I want to welcome everyone back to Organized Crime and Punishment. This time it is just me, Steve, uh, here. Uh, we don't have Mustache Chris, but I am very excited to be joined by Professor Diana Ricard, who is an associate Professor in the Department of Social Sciences, Human Services, and Criminal Justice at the Borough of Manhattan Community College, which is a [00:01:00] part of CUNY. And she is the author of another book, Sex Offenders, Stigma, and Social Control. But in particular today, we are going to talk about her latest book. The New True Crime, How the Rise of Serialized Storytelling is Transforming Innocence. It's a fascinating book, and I think maybe the, uh, how we can start this out is maybe you can tell us a little bit about yourself and maybe where the genesis of this book came from. Oh, I'm... Very actually excited to talk about that because, um, it came from my interest in wrongful conviction, which actually came from a personal connection of a family member of a friend of mine and an interest in where wrongful conviction fits into different. Concerns in criminal justice or criminal justice reform or criminal justice issues, and I kind of had [00:02:00] trouble as a researcher finding where my place was in the conversation, in part, because there's so much good journalism, like, as an academic and a scholar, it was hard for me to find what I could contribute when there's, you know, the innocence project has so Um, offered so many important case studies and analysis, and there's so much really good stuff out there if you, if you look and in that search, um, I just became aware of these amazing documentaries and I, and more and more people were mentioning them to me, um, in my introduction to the book, I, I talk about how people kept telling me I should listen to cereal. I should listen to cereal. And when I saw Making a Murderer in December of 2015, so quickly, there was a huge outcry in response to that. I knew I had something [00:03:00] here about the synergies between entertainment, wrongful conviction, true crime, journalism, news. You know, popular culture and, um, that's how I got started in this podcast. We're really trying to not follow the standard true crime genre that we're trying to inject it with looking at it historically and maybe trying to be a little bit more objective. And I wonder. Uh, is it possible, this is one of the things that you brought up and it's, it's always been in the back of my mind is it, can you be entertaining and objective at the same time? Do you have to create a narrative, which by its whole definition has to have good guys and bad guys, protagonists, antagonists? So I don't think I, I don't think being objective and being entertaining are necessarily in [00:04:00] conflict, but what the reason I chose the specific series I focus on is because they open up the problem of perspective of point of view. And I'm really fascinated, fascinated by how they destabilize what is truth. And they make us question who has the authority over truth. So I chose only cases. I did not choose documentaries that covered cases where the person had been exonerated. So the, I chose to look at docume

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Title: Game of Crimes: Mafia Hitman or Serial Killer Original Publication Date: 9/20/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/ryW2CowG6ow Description: Join Mustache Chris and Steve are joined today by veteran police officer and crime fiction author Frank (https://www.frankzafiro.com) to play the game: Mafia Hitman or Serial Killer. You can play at home and see if you can beat us! Send us your score and thoughts on the fuzzy line between two different kinds of mass murders. #TrueCrime #MafiaMysteries #SerialKillers #CrimePsychology #CriminalProfiling You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome back to a really special episode of Organized Crime and Punishment. This episode, we are going to wrap up Season 1 of Organized Crime and Punishment, where we really talked a lot about the murder involved with the Mafia. And the way we're going to wrap it up is with a little... We're going to play the in show style of Serial Killer or Mafia Member. So we're joined by our crew member, Frank Scalise. I believe this is, we've recorded other episodes with Frank, but this is the first time you're actually meeting Frank. It's kind of weird the way that lined up. But this is our first introduction to Frank, you're going to learn a lot more about Frank in future series. We are also joined by none other than our very own Mustache Chris. And Mustache Chris is going to take the hosting duties today, and he is going to be our host in our game show [00:01:00] of Mafia Member or Serial Killer. Yeah, we, we'd been, we thought about coming, we came up with this idea and we thought it'd be a little bit fun and then, uh, we got in touch with Frank and figured, you know, this would be a good episode to have Frank come on for, and this is one of those tougher questions when it comes to the mob, but I suppose, but I suppose crime in general, like the difference between, say, a mafia hitman and a serial killer can become pretty blurry. Like, Many mob hitmen, uh, have a much higher body count than most serial killers, like, um, you know, mob hitmen also, like, are notorious for, like, cutting up the bodies after the fact to help. You know, with the help, uh, have them not get caught, obviously, right? You know, throwing the body parts in dumps and stuff like that. Uh, but, uh, the truth of the matter is, uh, many of the mob hitmen, they enjoyed killing people. And some of them... Some of them it comes across like they just kind of saw it as a [00:02:00] job like, uh, you know, if you look at the likes of, say, Harry Strauss or Roy DeMaio, we were looking at, you know, body counts that go high above even the Green River Killer, who I believe still in American history is, has the highest, uh, body count. You know, the typical argument that I, uh, find is people say, like, well, serial killers enjoy, like, sadistically killing their victims, whereas mob hitmen tend to just get the job done as quickly as possible. And I think, for the most part, that generalization is, uh, Is correct, but there there's examples where it doesn't entirely fit. What do you guys think? Well, uh, this is Frank here, uh, saying hello to your audience for the 1st time. We'll chat some more in future episodes. And, uh, but for this 1, I, I think I would say that the difference between a serial killer and a mob hitman. Is a matter of compulsion. I think that most [00:03:00] people that and let me back up a step. I think you could clearly label a mob hit man as a serial killer by the letter of the definition. I mean, they meet the criteria, but I think in popular parlance when we say serial killer. We're not talking about a mob hit man, you know, and so the difference to me is that compulsion, a serial killer kills from a very deep place that they're compelled to do so for sadistic and psychological, uh, reasons that are pretty terrible. Um, and while I guess some hit hit men might enjoy their work, I think it's a job 1st and a hobby 2nd and it's, it's not that way for serial killer at all. And I should mention, uh, even though we will more properly introduce Frank in future episodes, Frank's not just shooting from the hip here, Frank was a 20 year career police officer and a crime fiction writer, so he definitely [00:04:00] comes to this with some cred. Although I was never a homicide investigator, so I

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Who are people from the past whose lives are so cinematic that they deserve their own movie, but haven't received the right silver screen treatment, such as, say, Abraham Lincoln from Steven Spielberg or Napoleon Bonaparte from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Hosts from different shows on the Parthenon Podcast Network are here to discuss this question, including Steve Guerra (History of the Papacy), Richard Lim (This American President), yours truly, and Mark Vinet (History of North America).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Title: Mob's Grim Reaper: Roy DeMeo's Violent Odyssey Original Publication Date: 8/30/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/bkHR55zM1qY Description: In this episode of Organized Crime and Punishment, Mustache Chris and Steve delve into the chilling tale of Roy DeMeo, a ruthless figure who left an indelible mark on the world of organized crime. Join us as we trace DeMeo's meteoric rise through the ranks of the Gambino crime family, his notorious "DeMeo Crew," and their involvement in a string of gruesome murders and criminal enterprises. From his reputation as a cold-blooded enforcer to his ties with powerful crime syndicates, we explore the factors that fueled DeMeo's dominance and the empire he built. However, as the walls closed in and law enforcement tightened their grip, his empire began to crumble, leading to his eventual demise in a hail of bullets. Tune in to unravel the complex web of power, violence, and justice in the underworld, and don't miss our expert analysis on the legacy that Roy DeMeo leaves behind. #OrganizedCrime #TrueCrime #RoyDeMeo #CriminalEmpire #GambinoFamily #DeMeoCrew #RiseAndFall #ColdBlooded #PodcastEpisode #TrueCrimeStory You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. Let's talk a little bit about Paul Castellano because Paul Castellano, he came up in our last episode about the Iceman. To me, he seemed like the... Really the most unlikeliest of mafia guys, because he had a huge legitimate business in meatpacking that, uh, the, his business was in selling meat and chicken, and he made tons and tons of [00:01:00] money. If I'm not mistaken, both of his sons were involved in the business and they were completely legit. And I. Don't understand why someone like Paul Castellano would want to be involved in this really dirty, nasty. Underworld element of the, the mafia when he could have just been involved completely in the white collar part of the mafia, which in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s. Sure. If you were. In labor unions, or if you were in something like meatpacking, yeah, you were connected to the mafia, but you didn't have to be in the nitty gritty of being around people like Roy DeMeo and the Westies, and the really gritty, nasty part of the mafia and the organized crime. No, I just, I think. It's because he just kind of grew up with it and kind of got pulled into it. And [00:02:00] because he was such a good earner, I mean, it, it would make kind of sense that you would want that guy to be the head of the family because nobody knew how to like make as much money as Paul and do it somewhat. I mean, do it legitimately for the most part and not attract like police attention, but. I don't like Paul wasn't really cut out for the job to like, I don't think he really understood like stuff that was coming down the pipe in terms of like week, uh, Rico and like wiretapping. Cause he would have all the dude, you would have all the guys like show up at the, I believe it was like the veterans club that they called every two weeks, every week to sit down and talk about, you know, what was Gambino family. And it's the cops are just kind of sitting there laughing at them and say, well, I mean, really, they're all going to show up at the same time. We're just. I'm going to stand out here and take pictures and, you know, and his own house was wiretapped at one point. He just doesn't seem, it seemed like probably like a good idea in theory. This guy's a great [00:03:00] earner and he seems to keep his nose pretty clean. Like who better to run the family, but. In practice, it didn't really work out all that well. And I mean, he was so like white collar too, that he, he really kind of pissed off the guys that were, you know, like the street guys. And if you're going to be the head of a mafia family, you have to be able to strike a balance between the two where. The street guys are happy because you do need them. At the end of the day, the mafia is kind of built on muscle. If you don't have that, um, the threat of violence, if, um, the rest of it doesn't really work all that well. I mean, especially in like, you know, labor unions and like the construction business and even. I mean,

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Title: The Making of a Mob Monster: Roy DeMeo's Dark Origins Original Publication Date: 8/23/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/Dl1OmvVefjj Description: In this episode, Mustache Chris and Steve delve into the intriguing early life and career of the notorious Roy DeMeo, whose journey into organized crime paved the way for an empire built on fear and brutality. From his humble beginnings on the streets of Brooklyn to his calculated entrance into the Gambino crime family, we uncover the pivotal moments that shaped DeMeo's transformation into a ruthless enforcer and prolific contract killer. Join us as we unravel the layers of deception, ambition, and ruthlessness that defined DeMeo's ascent to power, and explore the shadowy world of organized crime that he would come to dominate with an iron fist. #TrueCrimeTales #MafiaChronicles #CriminalMasterminds #roydemeo #serialkiller You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime, with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. I'm excited again to be joined by Chris to talk about the background of a really infamous and in a sick way. Intriguing Mafia figure Roy DeMeo. Chris and I are jumping into a really the deep end of the Mafia pool here, and we're really glad you joined us today. This episode and the previous episode on Richard Kuklinski, the Iceman, is going to build a lot of background that we'll use to talk about the 2012 movie Iceman. So let's really get into [00:01:00] it. And I think Roy DeMeo is maybe not a Mafia. He's probably not one of the names that really comes up as one of people's first, like, most known Mafia figures, especially, uh, compared to his contemporary of somebody like John Gotti, but he was really extremely influential in his time, and maybe one of the most intriguing Mafia characters of all time. What do you think, just like, your first brush and your first blush, I guess you might say, of Roy DeMeo? Yeah, as Luke pointed out, Roy DeMeo isn't, um, as particularly, particularly well known as some of these other Mafia guys. I think one of the reasons is where Hollywood and popular culture tries to present the Mafia as kind of glitz and glamorous to a degree where it almost seems like kind of like a fun thing. Where, like, when you start reading about Roy DeMeo, it's the exact opposite of that. It's the... Kind of really, [00:02:00] really what the mob is, you know, boiled down to its essence and Roy kind of perfectly represents that where it's, it's not glitz and glamour, uh, glamour, it's, it's rough, it's dirty, it's kind of vile and disgusting. It's a horror story, really. I mean, if you, if you took away and said that this wasn't real and you just told somebody about a, I mean, not to give away too much, but a place where people go in, they get murdered, and dismembered, and just disappear. It's literally a scene from a horror movie, Ray D'Ameo's life. Yeah, you know, and it's, it really does come across, yeah, his entire life is, it's like a, kind of like what you would think would be like, almost like a cheesy B kind of horror film. Um, where, you know, this guy is, he's one thing, uh, to certain group of people, but then like when he's not away, when he's [00:03:00] away from those people, he's, he's an upstanding citizen. It's a really, but you know, this is real. It's a, it's a hundred percent real. I am doing a little bit of ancestry. com. I knew from my family that there was de Mayo's that sort of overarching, uh, family that my family belongs to as my. Great grandmother was, her maiden name was DeMeo, and I tried so desperately to see if I was some connection to Roy, I didn't find it, but it's not that uncommon, it's not that common of a name, I, I'm gonna keep finding out, maybe we'll do an update at some point and see if there's, in some weird way I'm distantly related to Roy DeMeo, but um, really the, the best way to start out trying to dig into Roy DeMeo and try and learn something about him is, His kind of messed up childhood. Tell us, tell us about Roy DeMeo's really screwed up childhood. Yeah, it [00:04:00] wasn't as bad. It wasn't like, don't get, it wasn't anything like Richard's, but it's, it's, yeah, it's a pretty weird childhood. Like, Roy was, uh...

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Teddy Roosevelt faced many challenges at the end of his life. Racked by rheumatism, a ticking embolism, pathogens in his blood, a bad leg from an accident, and a bullet in his chest from an assassination attempt. But none of that stopped Roosevelt from attempting to reassemble the Rough Riders for a final charge against the Germans in World War One, pushing them into a likely suicide mission of a cavalry attack against 50 caliber machine guns.Suffering from grief and guilt, marginalized by world events, the great glow that had been his life was now but a dimming lantern. But TR’s final years were productive ones as well: he churned out several “instant” books that promoted U.S. entry into the Great War, and he was making plans for another run at the Presidency in 1920 at the time of his death. Indeed, his political influence was so great that his opposition to the policies of Woodrow Wilson helped the Republican Party take back the Congress in 1918. To look at Roosevelt’s final years, Scott Rank, host of History Unplugged, speaks with Bill Hazelgrove, author of “The Last Charge of the Rough Rider.” It was Roosevelt’s quest for the “vigorous life” that, ironically, may have led to his early demise at the age of sixty. "The Old Lion is dead,” TR’s son Archie cabled his brother on January 6, 1919, and so, too, ended a historic era in American life and politics. Subscribe to History Unplugged with Scott Rank:Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Ysc7ZgSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3j0QRJyParthenon: https://www.parthenonpodcast.com/history-unplugged-podcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Title: Chilling Portrayal: The Iceman's Legacy on Film Original Publication Date: 8/16/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/xgTnsXwkc7o Description: In this episode of Organized Crime and Punishment, Mustache Chris and Steve delve deep into the chilling world of the critically acclaimed movie "The Iceman." This episode dissects the mesmerizing portrayal of the notorious contract killer Richard Kuklinski by Michael Shannon and disentangles the intricate web of organized crime he was a part of. From the gritty streets to the suspenseful courtroom scenes, we analyze how the film captures the chilling reality of a man leading a double life – family man by day and ruthless hitman by night. Tune in to explore the moral dilemmas, the complex characters, and the parallels to real-life criminal enterprises. As we explore the shades of gray in the criminal world, we raise questions about justice and punishment. Join the conversation using #RichardKuklinski #TheIcemanMovie #ColdBloodedKiller #ContractKiller #RealLifeCrime #TrueCrimeStory #OrganizedCrimeSaga #CriminalMastermind as we unravel the cinematic portrayal of organized crime and its consequences. You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime, with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. In the last couple of episodes, Chris and I talked about the real history and background of mobsters Richard the Iceman, Kuklinski, Roy DeMeo, and his famous crew. Today, we're going to talk about the 2012 film based on these events, the Iceman starring Michael Shannon, Winona Ryder, Ray Liotta, and more. So I really want to share a quick comment from our last YouTube live stream from one Wolfgang Schmuck. That's a great, [00:01:00] that's a great, uh, YouTube name. So, um, he says the guy on the right has the most perfect, clean looking mustache I've ever seen. Uh, mustache. How you doing? Oh, doing good. I'm pretty, uh, like the rest of my friends and family make jokes about the mustache. I've had it for so long now. I just, I'm just going to keep it. I'm never getting rid of it. And apparently, uh, somebody else pointed out that I look like, uh, Chris Rosenberg. And then I just, we were just looking at a picture and I was like, yeah, it's actually a little bit uncanny. Like his eye, like his hair is longer and stuff like that. But. I mean, I see it in the eyes, and then the mustache, I mean, there is definitely some similarity there. Wait, when did Chris Rosenberg die, and when were you born? Are you Chris Rosenberg reincarnated, maybe? I don't know, it'll be for the people to decide. Now this movie, uh, The Iceman, I have to say, it has, [00:02:00] I watched it probably more or less when it came out, and I liked it. This movie has so grown on me, to, to maybe it's one of my favorite mob movies. Of all time, because I wouldn't say just overall, it's not the most accurate movie I have ever seen, but it really captures something about the times, about Richard Kuklinski, and about what else was going on in the New York mafia scene in the 70s and the 80s. What did you think in your first couple of watches of this movie? Like you, when it first came out, I watched it right away because I heard about Richard Kuklinski. Michael Shannon, I always kind of, I've always enjoyed his acting, so I just, I watched and I enjoyed it, but, and I knew a little bit about Roy DeMeo and like a little bit of the history, but not a ton. But like, since doing like the 2 kind of deep dive background episodes and really [00:03:00] reading about that particular area and time period of the mob, I've. Like yourself, I actually kind of appreciate this movie more than I did before, which is, I've heard opposite, I've heard the opposite from people where they, they read more about Richard and they're like, Oh, this movie doesn't, doesn't do it properly. And it's, well, I mean, we'll get into that a little bit later. I think, like you pointed out to me and you were talking earlier in the week, it, it really captures the whole feel of that era that you get from when you do some research into, uh. Because it's a very particular era, like, era of the mob, especially like the DiMeo and Kuglinski, like, even location of like where they were doin

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Title: Beneath the Ice: The Secrets of Richard Kuklinski Revealed Original Publication Date: 8/16/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/gQGAxbZu3M2 Description: In this chilling episode of Organized Crime and Punishment, we delve into the life and career of Richard Kuklinski, famously known as "The Iceman." Our hosts explore the chilling details of Kuklinski’s journey from a seemingly ordinary family man to a ruthless contract killer responsible for over 100 murders. Discover the method behind his madness as we analyze his notorious use of freezing techniques to confound forensic investigations. Join us as we uncover the sinister secrets of this enigmatic figure and shed light on the cat-and-mouse game he played with law enforcement. Tune in to this gripping episode and explore the dark world of one of history's most notorious hitmen. #TrueCrimePodcast #OrganizedCrimeChronicles #TheIcemanCometh #ColdBloodedKiller #MurderMystery #CrimeWorldRevealed #CriminalMastermind #UnmaskingTheIceman #ForensicInvestigation #LawEnforcementPursuit You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime, with your hosts, Steve and Mustache Chris. The whole story of Richard Kuklinski, the Iceman, meeting Barbara is really interesting because everything to me screamed that Barbara should have stayed a million miles away. And it was really, she, this is my impression. I got of it. She got caught up in his gravity. He's like, he was like a black hole. And once she got too close to him, there was no escaping him. Yeah. Like he was working [00:01:00] at, I believe it was a, it was like a shipping and receiving thing. And. At first, he just kind of bumped into Barbara and they talked for a little bit and the manager, the boss told Richard, you got to stay away from her. Don't you talk to her ever again? And Richard wasn't even thinking about her romantically in that sense. But as soon as the boss is like, you couldn't, you can't have her. That was like, okay, Richard, like Richard's like, I got to have her and pretty much almost kind of starts like stalking her and they start dating a little bit and then. At one point, Barbara's family, because they're picking up kind of weird vibes from him, they hire a private investigator to kind of look into Richard and they start, you know, seeing things that, uh, not the murder, but just a bunch of other like low end crimes and stuff that he'd been doing and just words on the streets. And at one point, like Barbara steps back, but she's, she says to herself, like, well, that's in the past. He's not doing that anymore. And then. You know, this whole [00:02:00] time he's still married to his first wife, which is another wild thing. And that's like a big thing in the, uh, in the confessions of a hitman book where people are really focused on her family's really focused on like, well, you got to get a divorce. You got to get a divorce. And Richard kind of struggles, like to get the money to get the divorce. But we talked about this earlier. He has like low impulse control with that. Eventually he ends up getting her pregnant and. She starts seeing the real Richard, and she doesn't like what she sees, and she runs away, I believe, to live with her father in Florida, and he goes and talks to her mother, and her mother's like, well, I'll tell you where she is, but you gotta show, you gotta prove to me that you got the divorce, he ends up getting the divorce, and she shows him, she tells him, um, um, um, Where Barbara is, and he finds her and they end up getting married because I guess it's the right thing to do in that time. And, um, it's probably the worst. Just while Barbara will tell you it was the worst [00:03:00] decision she ever made in her life that and the fact that once he was in, he. There was just no leaving and Barbara knew it that there was no leaving him that either he went to jail somehow, or somebody was going to die her mom, her dad, her, and how many times did he cause her to miscarry? I think it was three times through beating her or... Yeah, it was like three times and like, even before they got married, he was like poking her with knives and like threatening her entire, like, I shouldn't laugh, but I mean, it is like,

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Title: Cold-Blooded: The Origin Story of the Iceman Richard Kuklinski Original Publication Date: 8/9/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/j6tJb4VQxS1 Description: In this episode of Organized Crime and Punishment, Mustache Chris and Steve delve into the captivating life of Iceman Richard Kuklinski. Join us as we explore his early years and the circumstances that led him into a life of crime. From his troubled upbringing to his initial steps into the underworld, we uncover the intriguing journey of this notorious figure. Tune in for a chilling tale of a man shaped by darkness. #IcemanChronicles #TrueCrimeTales #ColdBloodedCriminal You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] This episode will bring up topics that are not necessarily appropriate for all audiences. Uh, we're gonna really try not to be graphic. I mean, in all honesty, we'll try to make it as less graphic as, as possible. But we will be talking about mafia, and killing, and contracts. Pillars, just to let you know in advance. So what we're going to do today, Chris and I are, we're going to try to build some context on Richard Kuklinski, the Iceman, and this will lead into the next few episodes where we'll talk about mobster, Roy DeMeo, and then the 2012 movie, the Iceman, we really think you'll enjoy these conversations and really this whole series and the series within a series. Uh, We're going to break down Richard Kuklinski's life into several sections, because that's really how the, the books break up his life and [00:01:00] how he broke up his life and his jailhouse in a series of three or four sets of jailhouse interviews, hours and hours of interviews, really his early childhood, his early life and life in crime, and then his later life in crime. Um, And then his, uh, the end, where he's finally captured and prosecuted, and then his life in jail, which was a whole nother life after life. Just initially, Chris, what did you think overall of Richard Kuklinski? When we started looking into the Iceman, we were like... Really started looking into it like, yeah, we got to do this guy deserves his own episode because it is really a crazy, crazy story about like, you know, is this guy telling the truth? Is this guy not telling the truth? Is, um, how much, how much is he lying? How much is he not lying? It's it. And there's opinions that vary where people say he's lying about everything. And there's people that just take them exactly at his word. And [00:02:00] yeah, Richard Kuklinski, I mean, in terms of mafia guys, if you can really call him that, I don't, he's not really a mafia guy. He was kind of around them. I mean, he's, his story is fascinating. I remember when the Iceman tapes came out in the late 80s, maybe early 90s on HBO, and it was even too creepy to, for me to watch. I remember watching a little bit of it and turning it right off. And then a couple of years ago, I, Listen to some podcasts about him. I'm like, this is a strange guy, but then watching this movie and then diving into the deep dive of the research that we did. There's so much to him. And I think for me, it's he really dives into. What history is, and I think that we're going to learn a lot more about him. Hopefully when historians start looking into a story, as opposed to journalists who [00:03:00] are looking at it and looking at it in different ways, I think that we're going to learn a lot more about him because like you said. There's so much obscured about his story. We were relying so much on what he said that I don't think, at least for a while, that we'll know the full story of Richard Kuklinski. And it's also just the nature of... The mafia in general, where a lot of this stuff is still obscure, like it's still covered up and yeah, we know a fair amount, but there's a lot of, uh, I mean, if you look, listen to like Sammy, the bowl, he puffs himself up and I don't know, a lot of people take his word on a lot of things that went down, but I mean, somehow he always makes himself look good. And he's, uh, you know, one of the. Sources for a lot of these journalists and just to like kind of use an example like Richard Konglitzky Is he's not a household name, but he's pretty he's a pretty famous serial killer I mean and [00:04:00] the five families which is uh by Celin Robb, I believe that's Rab How you pro

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Title: Murder Incorporated - The Canary that Could Sing But Couldn’t Fly Original Publication Date: 8/2/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/Czku39RnwTN Description: In this episode, Mustache Chris and Steve dive into the dramatic end of Murder Incorporated and the shocking demise of its notorious hitman, Abe "Kid Twist" Reles. Join us as we explore the aftermath of Reles' mysterious death and the impact it had on the infamous crime syndicate. From the gritty streets of 1940s New York to the courtroom battles that followed, we uncover the secrets and twists that unfolded in the wake of Murder Incorporated's demise #TrueCrimeStories #OrganizedCrime #MurderInc #Mobsters #CriminalUnderworld #Assassins #CrimeSyndicate #Hitmen #InfamousKillings #GanglandHistory #CrimeFamily #MafiaChronicles #ContractKillers #Crime You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime. With your hosts, Steve and Mustache, Chris. Welcome back to the program and thank you for joining Mustache, Chris and I as we weave our way through the fascinating story of the Industrial Lies Death Machine, murder Incorporated, we are approaching the end of the story of Murder, Inc. We are finally going to see the downfall of Murder Inc. And it will be confirmed that man can't fly. But they can sing. Each of these episodes in this series on Murder Inc. Can be enjoyed and listened to [00:01:00] individually, but altogether they tell, uh, and Weave a really fascinating story of Murder Incorporated, the Mafia's Killing Machine. But let's move on. There's another character, Charles Workman, and he has a really interesting trial where, um, Abel will come in again. Yeah. Charles Workman is a. It's an interesting case in the demise of, uh, murder Inc. Uh, cuz it's one of the few that didn't actually end up, up in the, in the death penalty. Uh, Workman was one of the hitman in the, uh, uh, on the Dutch Schultz hit. Uh, And the trial opened up in, uh, uh, June, 1941. And, uh, yeah, a bras was, uh, testifying at this trial once again, uh, and on this case. But like, uh, a young lady also made an appearance too. She, uh, she used a pseudonym. So we don't actually really, we don't know her name. Um, She testified that like workman, uh, showed up to like Dutch's apartment [00:02:00] the day after the murder, like demanding his clothes so he could burn them. I think literally was saying that like, I need to burn his clothes. She also said that like workman would like openly talk about. Killing Dutch around like her and like on the streets, you know, like bragging like, look, I took out Dutch soul. It's like, what an idiot. Like are you, do you know what I mean? Like, what do you, like I said, like some of these guys are not the smartest guys in the world. Like if I'm him and I took out a guy like Dutch Souls, like I'm out of town for at least a couple months. Do you know what I mean? Like, just get out of there. Don't go, don't be anywhere near there. But I don't know. Some of these guys, they, you know, Was a, just to kinda use an example, a math Tory, we had talked about earlier, and apparently he didn't even know the street that the Statue of Liberty was on because he was saying, you know what I mean? Like he was so like closed in like his little community. Like, you know, it's like you live in New York, like how do you not. I don't know. It just, some of these guys are just not very smart. Um, yeah. And then the, [00:03:00] this is where it kind of gets a little bit like I, it gets a little bit interesting. So, uh, like a funeral home director like testified that workman was employed by him during the, the time, the murder of Dutch. And, but he would like, later he would like recant this and thus, like the workman lost his alibi and then, Like his, his lawyer would end up changing his position to like not guilty to pushing for like a no contest because like, you know, his witness basically lied under oath and then it was just, and the evidence was actually quite thin that. Sticking workman to the Dutch salts hits where like you had people, Bri, you know, maybe there was a lot of people bragging on the streets at the time saying I killed Dutch. You know what I mean? And you had umbrella sharing l

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Title: Murder Incorporated – Fighting For Their Lives Original Publication Date: 7/26/2023 Transcript URL: Description: In this episodes, Mustache Chris and Steve delve into the notorious trials of Murder Incorporated. Uncover the shocking details of organized crime's most sinister enterprise, responsible for a wave of assassinations and violence during the mid-20th century. Join us as we explore the gripping courtroom dramas that unfolded as authorities sought to dismantle this lethal syndicate. From the high-profile trials of key members like Albert Anastasia and Louis Buchalter to the testimonies of witnesses and survivors, we unravel the web of corruption and brutality that defined Murder Incorporated. Tune in as we analyze the legal strategies, evidence, and the ultimate outcomes of these landmark cases that exposed the dark underbelly of organized crime in America. Brace yourself for a riveting journey into the trials that sought justice for the victims and challenged the formidable power of Murder Incorporated. #TrueCrimeStories #OrganizedCrime #MurderInc #Mobsters #CriminalUnderworld #Assassins #CrimeSyndicate #Hitmen #InfamousKillings #GanglandHistory #CrimeFamily #MafiaChronicles #ContractKillers #Crime You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime. With your hosts, Steve and Mustache, Chris. Welcome back to the program, and thank you for joining Mustache, Chris and I as we weave our way through the fascinating story of Murder Incorporated. In this episode, we will explore the crazy trials that led to many members of Murder, Inc. Being sentenced to death and actually executed the strange death of Abe Ellis. And finally, we try and figure out what was Murder Inc. Exactly. Each of these episodes in this series on Murder Inc. [00:01:00] Can be enjoyed and listened to individually, but altogether they tell, uh, and Weave a really fascinating story of Murder Incorporated the Mafia's killing Machine. Now, Chris, what ultimately begins the beginning of the End of Murder, Inc. Yeah, it's pretty, I don't wanna say it's like typical, but it's usually like with these, uh, what of these mafia guys, it's usually like, Something small that ends up taking them out, really. And then in the part, in the case of Murder, Inc. It was actually, there was a criminal name, Harry, uh, Rudolph, who was actually, uh, he was up on charges for, um, this murder of, uh, 19 year old gangster Alex, uh, Alpert. And, uh, I did a little research into this guy and apparently Alex had, I don't know, he had dissed Harry Strauss and a couple other Murder Inc. Guys. And. They ended up sh shooting him in, in 1933. And when his back was turned, [00:02:00] and I guess they had been investigating this, uh, murder for quite some time, uh, Harry, um, you know, fortunately for society didn't have a problem talking. So he immediately started talking about, you know, like, I didn't do this. Uh, and he starts talking to the William o Dwyer, who is, uh, he's quite famous actually. He was the mayor of New York, uh, I believe. He ran twice, and I think he ended up becoming mayor of New York, uh, once and he eventually ended up becoming the ambassador to Mexico. You know, he's a pretty big part of this story. Yeah. Al Dwyer was born in, uh, Mayo County in Ireland, uh, uh, and, uh, his academic life kind of led them to, he was studying to be, uh, studying the priesthood, which was, you know, fairly common for, uh, Irish, uh, young Irishmen at the time. Um, And he actually learned under the Jesuits and yeah, he learned Spanish while he, uh, was, uh, work, uh, learning under the Jesuits. And uh, uh, [00:03:00] obviously I was wired and ended up becoming a priest. I think he said something like, I enjoyed riding my bike more than studying or something of this sort and, and the research than the books that I was reading on the subject. Um, Yeah. So he set sail to, uh, the United States. And, uh, yeah, he initially worked as like a hard laborer and then became a police officer at one point. And, uh, uh, I, I actually was reading a story. He, he had some, um, altercation. It was like with some really kind of scummy guy that was, I believe he was like beating his wife and he was like, misuse, uh, abusing

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Title: The Lethal Legacy of Murder Incorporated Original Publication Date: 7/19/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/Ah4X1GH5pQ3 Description: In this gripping episode, we delve into the chilling world of Murder Incorporated, a notorious criminal organization responsible for some of the most heinous murders in history. Join us as we explore the disturbing stories behind key murders committed by this deadly syndicate and attempt to unravel the motivations behind their existence. While the idea of a national crime syndicate employing a specialized murder organization may seem inconceivable, we examine the factors that led to the rise of Murder Inc. and why such an entity was deemed necessary. We discuss the social cost of Murder Inc., highlighting the devastating impact their actions had on communities and society as a whole. Tune in as we peel back the layers of this dark chapter in criminal history, shedding light on the hidden truths and sinister consequences of Murder Incorporated. #TrueCrime #TrueCrimeStories #OrganizedCrime #MurderInc #Mobsters #CriminalUnderworld #Assassins #CrimeSyndicate #Hitmen #InfamousKillings #GanglandHistory #CrimeFamily #MafiaChronicles #ContractKillers #Crime You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime. With your hosts, Steve and Mustache, Chris. Welcome back to Organized Crime and Punishment. We are continuing our discussion of the incredible story of Murder Incorporated, the violence arm of the Mafia. Isn't that just crazy mustache that the Mafia had a special organization for enforcing violence. That fact will get us into all sorts of fascinating conversations. But let's start off with a quick recapitulation of what we've talked about so [00:01:00] far. You can listen to any of these episodes that we've done so far on Murder, Inc. By themselves. They stand alone, uh, all the in as, uh, all the information presented, but they paint a much. Uh, richer and clearer picture of this deadly organization, murder Inc. When you put 'em all together. So, um, with that mustache, Chris, can you just recap the elements so far that we've talked about that set us up to how Murder Inc was formed? Yeah. So to, uh, kind of reintroduce some of the major players we have, uh, Abe Ellis, uh, Harry Strauss, happy Mayon, um, Frank Amano, uh, let alter Albert Anastasia, Louis Capone, and. All these guys together kind of loosely create what we known as, uh, murder Inc. Uh, lpi Bulk Alter and Albert Anastasia were the two heads of the organization. There was two heads, right? And Albert was kind of responsible [00:02:00] for the, uh, the Italian, uh, element of Murder Inc. And lpi, uh, bulk Halter was responsible for the Jewish element of. Murder Wing, uh, murder Inc. So the, we have those, those basic pieces and there's a whole lot of context that leads us up to how it's formed and labor, slugger, wars, so many other elements that come together. The whole. Situation that was going on in these neighborhoods, these ethnic enclaves, but we've gotten to this point. Let's talk about the founding and now that we have all these pieces, how is Murder Inc actually put together and why? So after like the cast of Lamar War really and when the, the creation of the National Crime Syndicate, and we talked about this earlier on the episode, one of Murder Inc. Like Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky and the top top cream of the top mafia came [00:03:00] with this idea of, uh, creating lenar enforcement wing for. This newly, uh, created national crime syndicates and, you know, it makes sense where, you know, it only takes kind of one person who, uh, start squealing into the police or fly off the handle. And all this hard work that, uh, went into creating something like the national crime syndicates could all just come collapsing. So basically you have to make people. Terrified of the fact that, you know, your life's gonna be at risk. If you even think about talking, uh, about Lucky Luciano, they probably wouldn't be talking about him cuz he was so high up. But, you know, talking about Lucky Luciano to the cops or anything like that in a lot of ways is basically kind of how our police force works. In some ways it might get me a little bit of trouble,

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Title: Dutch Schultz – In the Crosshairs of Murder Incorporated Original Publication Date: 7/12/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/lbDcbM4OuQu Description: this episode, Mustache Chris and Steve delve into the captivating life of Dutch Schultz, a notorious American mobster during the Prohibition era. Born as Arthur Flegenheimer, Schultz rose to infamy as a ruthless bootlegger and racketeer in New York City. Known for his flamboyant personality and cunning tactics, Schultz built a vast criminal empire that included speakeasies, gambling operations, and protection rackets. However, his reign of power came to a violent end when he became entangled in a bloody gang war. Join us as we explore the enigmatic life of Dutch Schultz and how he will find himself on the wrong side of Murder Incorporated. #TrueCrimeStories #OrganizedCrime #MurderInc #Mobsters #CriminalUnderworld #Assassins #CrimeSyndicate #Hitmen #InfamousKillings #GanglandHistory #CrimeFamily #MafiaChronicles #ContractKillers #Crime #truecrime You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Thanks for joining Mustache, Chris and I as we continue to discuss the Mafia and particularly the vicious game of Contract Killers, murder Incorporated. We've been examining a lot of the biographies, some these people, and there might be somebody who you're, if you know anything about Murder, murder that you're screaming that we haven't really talked about and. That person is the person we're gonna talk about today. Dutch Schultz, uh, one of the most deadly and dangerous people and a group of deadly and dangerous people. So Chris, um, who is Dutch Schultz and why should we spend some time talking about his story? Just going through the notes of like, when we were going through, uh, the History of Murder Inc. And um, in the previous episode we talked about a couple of the big murders that Murder Inc. Had, uh, been involved in. And obviously, uh, we're gonna have to talk, talk about the murder of Dutch Schultz. But cuz I would, I would argue that's probably the murder Inc's most famous [00:01:00] murder. Um, yeah. As soon as I started getting into Judge Schultz, I figured why not just do an episode on this guy ending in his death by Murder, Inc. Because he plays, he's such an important part of this time period of the, uh, uh, mob history, and he's all interconnected with all these guys in Murder, Inc. In one way or another. Maybe not so much, say a Ellis and Jacob Shapiro and those types of guys, but. Uh, Leke and, uh, lucky Luciano and Albert Anastasia, he's, he's all interconnected with these guys more, the higher up end of the, uh, I guess, uh, murder Inc, uh, apparatus. So, uh, give us a little bit of background on Dutch. Arthur Si. Simon Frankenheimer. Sorry, that name is different. Gonna make free not laugh. Yes. That was, uh, D's actual name. Uh, was, was, uh, born to, uh, German Jewish immigrants on August. Uh, Six, uh, [00:02:00] 19, oh, uh, 1904. His father would end up abandoning the family when he was, uh, quite young. And this would traumatize Dutch for the rest of his life. Like up until the point where when people would ask him about his fathers, he would make up stories. Like his father was like, oh, he was a really important businessman. He was doing stuff overseas. And, um, I believe it's something that just he kept with him for the rest of his life. This, um, um, trust issues or maybe sense of abandonment issues, uh, I mean, that would be traumatizing. You know, any time period in history your father just picks up and leaves and doesn't want to have any, anything to do with you. Um, This inevitably. Yeah. So Dutch would, you know, grow up and he would be involved in like petty crimes and fights and things of that nature. By the 1920s, Dutch would've worked as a bouncer for, uh, a speakeasy for a gentleman named, uh, Joey. Uh, no. Joey took a shine to Dutch because of his, uh, he, he [00:03:00] recognized pretty quickly that Dutch was a pretty brutal and ruthless person, which we're gonna get into, uh, details, uh, quite shortly. And yeah, before you know, it, uh, him and Joey were, you know, opening up joints together. And this is kind of when Dutch starts, uh, getting into serious, uh, criminal activity and. Yeah, they would even use their own trucks. Like, so it would cut out all the t

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Title: The Kevlar Gangster: Jack 'Legs' Diamond and Murder Incorporated Original Publication Date: 7/5/2023 Transcript URL: https://share.descript.com/view/v9MXHPNM2rW Description: In this episode Steve and Mustache Chris delve into the captivating life of Jack "Legs" Diamond, one of the most notorious gangsters of the Prohibition era. From his humble beginnings to his rise to power, we explore Diamond's journey through the criminal underworld. Known for his involvement in bootlegging, gambling, and other illicit activities, Diamond quickly gained notoriety and influential connections. However, his rise to power was marred by violent gangland conflicts with rivals such as Dutch Schultz. Ultimately, we unravel the decline of Diamond's criminal activities and the mysteries surrounding his unsolved murder in 1931. Join us as we delve into the enigmatic life of Jack "Legs" Diamond and reflect on his enduring legacy as a symbol of the Prohibition era and the fascination with gangsters in American popular culture. #TrueCrimeStories #OrganizedCrime #MurderInc #Mobsters #CriminalUnderworld #Assassins #CrimeSyndicate #Hitmen #InfamousKillings #GanglandHistory #CrimeFamily #MafiaChronicles #ContractKillers #Crime You can learn more about Organized Crime and Punishment and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page email: [email protected] www.organizedcrimeandpunishment.com Parthenon Podcast Network Home: parthenonpodcast.com On Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory https://www.facebook.com/groups/atozhistorypage https://facebook.com/atozhistorypage https://twitter.com/atozhistorypage https://www.instagram.com/atozhistorypage/ Music Provided by: Music from "5/8 Socket" by Rico's Gruv Used by permission. © 2021 All Rights Reserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210vQJ4-Ns0 https://open.spotify.com/album/32EOkwDG1YdZwfm8pFOzUu Begin Transcript: [00:00:00] Welcome to Organized Crime and Punishment, the best spot in town to hang out and talk about history and crime. With your hosts, Steve and Mustache, Chris. We are very deep into the contract killing startup enterprise of the Mafia Murder, Inc. We have seen that Murder Inc. Wasn't just a add-on or a side project of the American Mafia and organized crime. It was central to the formation of the mafia itself. And we're building that story as we go along. We've met a lot of really quote unquote, interesting characters so far in the development of Murder Incorporated.[00:01:00] Today we're going to take some time to zoom into the life of one of the more fascinating stories and characters. Jack Legs, diamond Mustache. Chris, why should we take a closer look at Jack Diamond? Yeah. Researching the, like our deep dive into Murder Inc. I came across Jack Li's Diamond and um, The, uh, labor Sluggers Warrior was, uh, little Augie's bodyguard, or on and off bodyguard. And it was, honestly, it was his nickname that kind of caught my attention. Jack Legs Diamond, it's just such an odd nickname for him upstairs. So I just kind of went down a little rabbit hole and. Soon as I kind of got into his story, I'm like, this guy is, this guy is an insane story. Like, how about, how am I, no, sorry. How haven't I heard about him? Like, he's like trips around the world, you know? He was like dating the equivalent of movie stars at the time and like, He had multiple attempts on his life and he was able to survive most of [00:02:00] 'em, you know, uh, and just researching it, like kind of, Jack doesn't even really kind of, he doesn't even come across as like a real person in a lot of ways. He almost seems like a, kind of like a evil cartoon character, if that makes sense. Like you'll, I think you guys will agree once we start getting into his life story. Yeah, I really ag I agree with that, that there's so many people and sometimes somebody like Jack's legs diamond, he just rises to the top. Let's start off with it right in the beginning. Can you tell us, uh, a little bit about his background and early life? Jack Diamond was born on, uh, July 10th, 19, uh, sorry, 1897 to Sarah and John, uh, Moran. Sarah and John. Sarah and John would leave, uh, Ireland for Pennsylvania in, uh, uh, 1891 and a few years later, his brother, uh, Eddie was born. And like many, uh, Irish immigrants coming, uh, To America, the easy wasn't going for them at all. Right? It [00:03:00] not just the Irish, it was the, you know, Jewish immigrants and Italian immigrants that were coming over at the time. And to also add on top of it, Sarah suffered from, uh, debilitating arthritis and other health problems. And then by 19, uh, 13 and affection in her lungs, uh, Would actually kill her. And it was very common in those days cuz people just didn't understand, uh, just how bad, uh, living in the unsanitary conditions that, uh, they lived in. We touched on it a little bit in the, uh, murder Inc. Uh, I believe was Murder Inc. Part one, where we talked about the living conditions in