Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

The Browns and Bengals open their season against each other this week at Cleveland Browns Stadium, an opportunity for both teams to make a statement to start their season and move to the inside lane early in the AFC North race. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the week offering up three things they're watching for this week as the Browns and Bengals get ready to square off. Our Labor Day podcast starts with our recap of the day here with our post-practice report. Then they sit down outside the team facility and go through the things they're watching this week. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

September is here, the NFL season is around the corner and we've been watching this Browns team practice since July 22. In other words, we've had plenty of time to get a feel for things and figure out what we think about certain areas of the team. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe go through three categories in looking ahead to the 2023 season. They start with what they are most certain about heading into the year. They cover both sides of the ball as they go through their answers. Then they flip it and go over what they are least certain about. What areas of the team concern them the most? Lastly, it's what they are most curious about heading into the 2023 season. They talk players, coaches and groups as they cover all three topics. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are about to enter their first full season with Deshaun Watson as their starting quarterback and expectations are high for him and the Browns. Does he look like an elite quarterback so far as the season begins? It's the first topic we cover in the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start by answering a question from our Football Insider subscribers about Watson and if he's prepared to return to an elite level of quarterback play this season. Then they answer questions about the 53-man roster. What areas is the roster most thin? How will wide receiver snaps get divvied up? They also discuss Cade York and whether he needed a change of scenery. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We knew Cade York wasn't going to be on the Browns' 53-man roster -- the Browns traded for kicker Dustin Hopkins on Monday -- but could he land on the practice squad? Head coach Kevin Stefanski didn't rule it out on Tuesday. Would it even be a good idea? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their look at the Browns' initial 53-man roster by talking about York and what it would even look like to put him on the practice squad and create a path for him to be the Browns kicker some day. Then they look at the receiver room and the decisions to keep David Bell and waive Austin Watkins before they look at two undrafted players who made the team on the defensive side of the ball. Lastly, they get into Denzel Ward suffering his fourth concussion and what his football future holds. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns made a switch at kicker, trading for Dustin Hopkins and waiving second-year kicker Cade York. It's the end of a brief run for York after the Browns made him a fourth-round pick in 2022. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed York's time in Cleveland on an emergency edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Was this inevitable, especially after Kevin Stefanski declined to commit to York as his Week 1 kicker? Why was this a move the Browns had to make? Will the Browns regret giving up on York or did he ultimately need a change of scenery? Did the Browns blow the pick they used to select York? They also talk about why Hopkins is here and why he's a solid choice for now. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns have until Tuesday at 4 p.m. to cut their roster to 53 players. They’ll likely be done with their moves well in advance of the deadline -- they’re scheduled to practice at 3 p.m. on Tuesday, after all. Before they get their initial roster set, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take their best shot at predicting the team’s 53-man roster. They go over who they believe are locks and who they think will round out the rest of the group, including what the Browns will do at kicker. They talk through the entire roster and beg, borrow and steal their way to 53 players. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns wrapped up their preseason on Saturday afternoon against Kansas City and kicker Cade York missed a potential game-winning field goal. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked all things York after the game on Saturday in their postgame podcast. Is it possible York could still be the kicker on September 10 against Cincinnati in the opener? How will the Browns approach this over the next few days? Can they just give up on York? Then they take a closer look at the performance of the offensive starters. Did they see enough from Deshaun Watson and Co.? Plus, some talk about the strong defensive performance and more. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns traded backup quarterback Joshua Dobbs on Thursday, meaning rookie quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson will be the backup this season. It's a quick rise for the fifth-round pick out of UCLA and a surprising move given Kevin Stefanski confirmed Dobbs was the backup a few hours before the trade. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the news shortly after it happened on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Then they look ahead to Saturday's preseason finale in Kansas City by offering up three things to watch when the Browns take on the Chiefs. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson spoke to the media on Wednesday, the first time he's spoken to the media since the team's joint practices in Philadelphia and ahead of Saturday's preseason finale in Kansas City. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss what Deshaun Watson said on Wednesday on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They discuss Watson's comments about the offense and taking control of it. They get into his views on where he fits in quarterback rankings and how he responded to criticism of his performance in Philadelphia. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

BEREA, Ohio -- New Browns safety Juan Thornhill believes in what the Browns can accomplish this season and has big expectations for his new team after coming off a Super Bowl win a year ago and being a part of one of the most successful runs in recent NFL memory. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing Thornhill and his expectations and what he brings to the Browns. Then the conversation turns towards Deshaun Watson and how he compares to Patrick Mahomes and what his ceiling is in this offense. How similar is his style to Mahomes? Will he put himself back in the discussion as one of the league’s best quarterbacks? Then they recap the day of practice. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns gave us a glimpse of what Elijah Moore can be in this offense when they played the Commanders in the first preseason game. Moore suffered a rib injury in that game, but he's back on the practice field and he seems excited to embrace a new role in his new home. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Sunday's camp recap podcast by discussing Moore's role and what it means for him and the Browns. Then they discuss Greg Newsome II and how he fits in Jim Schwartz's defensive scheme and why he seems happier. They wrap up by discussing practice, what the saw and why the Browns are running practice the way they do. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Another preseason game, another kicker discussion. Cade York remains the topic of discussion after the Browns tied the Eagles and York missed back-to-back kicks -- one negated by a penalty and the rekick right after. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss York and what the Browns should do about the issues their second-year kicker is having. Do they need to bring in another kicker? What is the risk of not having a Plan B at the position? Can York's confidence be saved? Then they discuss Jadeveon Clowney going to the Ravens and what impact he could have for the Browns' division rival. Lastly, they talk about one player each who stood out in Thursday's preseason game against the Eagles. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tuesday’s practice between the Browns and Eagles got a little chippy and Joel Bitonio voiced some displeasure with the Browns’ opponent after practice. It made for an entertaining practice on a hot afternoon in Philadelphia. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped Day 2 of the joint practices between the Browns and Eagles, starting with what led to a fight between the two sides, Bitonio’s remarks and why the Eagles came out so fired up on Tuesday. They also discuss the state of the Browns receiving room and get into joint practices and what the NFLPA should do about them. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns held their first of two joint practices against the Eagles on Monday in Philadelphia. It was a good opportunity to get a look at the new-look Browns offense against a fierce Eagles and pass rush and see the Browns' new defense and pass rush go against a good Eagles offense. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped Day 1 of the joint practices early Tuesday morning and discussed what they saw. They start by looking at the offense and the state of the receiver room, especially on a day when Amari Cooper struggled. Then they turn their attention to the defense. What did they see from the defensive line on Monday? What about the secondary and how they matched up against the Eagles passing attack? Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are heading to Philadelphia this week for joint practices on Monday and Tuesday and a preseason game on Thursday. Before that, they played the Commanders on Friday night in preseason game No. 2. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the Commanders game starting with Cade York and what the Browns should do about their second-year kicker missing preseason kicks. Then they dig into what they saw from the new-look offense and how Deshaun Watson looked in it. They also talked about Elijah Moore and how he was used. They get into the defense and what they saw from the starting group. Lastly, they look ahead to the week in Philadelphia and what they're watching when the Browns practice against the Eagles. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Why was Shelby Harris available? What areas of the Browns roster have depth concerns? Those are just two of the questions our Football Insider subscribers had for this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe used the Browns off day on Thursday to dive into the texter mailbag and talk all things Browns. They discuss why Harris landed in Cleveland and go through some of the positions where they have some depth concerns. They also talk about the kicker position and if the Browns need to add competition before they talk about their approach to sending out training camp video on social media. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will play their first home preseason game on Friday night against the Commanders at Cleveland Browns Stadium, but first they held their final practice here before the game -- and before heading to Philadelphia for joint practices with the Eagles. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked ahead to Friday night’s game, first discussing what they hope to see from Deshaun Watson. Then they throw out players they’re looking forward to watching. They also get into Jerome Ford’s injury and what it means if he’s unable to go early in the season. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns received and good and bad news on the injury front as they took the practice field on Monday for Day 11 of training camp. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday's podcast with the good news. Sione Takitaki, Anthony Walker Jr. and Jakeem Grant were all back in team drills for the first time. They discuss what it means moving forward and what their roles will be when the season starts if they are 100 percent. Then they turn their attention to some of the bad news. Jerome Ford left practice with a hamstring. How much would it hurt if he misses time in camp? They also discuss the injuries to Alex Wright and Isaiah Thomas and what it means that their injuries could extend into the regular season. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns returned to the practice field on Sunday for Day 10 of training camp and the talk of the day was the secondary and running backs. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the day in Berea and started off by talking about the cornerback position. How will Denzel Ward, Greg Newsome II and Martin Emerson Jr. be deployed by Jim Schwartz? Is Emerson going to end up as the No. 2 cornerback? What does all of it mean for Newsome? Then they talk about the running back position. Is Jerome Ford ready to take over as the No. 2 running back? Could this be a year where we see Nick Chubb play a ton? Is Demetric Felton in play? Then they get into some of the injury news, including Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah dealing with a finger injury. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns legend Joe Thomas will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday afternoon and his wife, Annie, and their four children will present Thomas. Joe and Annie joined Mary Kay Cabot for a story she wrote earlier this week and told her all about their relationship, from the very start at Wisconsin to why Joe chose her and the kids to present him. Find out how they met, how Joe proposed, how one of the births of their children nearly caused Joe to miss a game and much more. Read Mary Kay's story about Joe and Annie here. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns beat the Jets in the Hall of Fame Game on Thursday night in Canton. It was an opportunity for young players and veterans on the bubble to make an impact and a case for a role or a roster spot. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked back on the game on Friday and picked out three players who helped themselves in the game and three players who didn't. They discuss everything from Dawand Jones' performance to Cade York's missed field goal. They get into the good and bad of Thursday night's game in our postgame podcast. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Jets kick off the NFL's preseason slate on Thursday night when they play each other in the Hall of Fame Game. Cleveland.com's film expert Lance Reisland joined the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast on Wednesday to look ahead to Thursday night's game and explain what he's watching. What position groups are the most intriguing and who has a chance to make an early case for the 53-man roster? First, Lance and Dan Labbe look back on Tuesday's training camp practice and what stood out. It was Lance's first chance to see the 2023 Browns in-person, so he runs down what he noticed. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski named Kellen Mond his starting quarterback for Thursday’s Hall of Fame Game againt the Jets. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing Mond starting and what they’re watching when the Browns take on the Jets to open the NFL’s preseason in Canton. Then they get into what they saw at practice on Tuesday and who stood out. Lastly, Dan caught up with veteran safety Rodney McLeod to talk about his journey to the NFL, playing for Jim Schwartz and what he expects from himself this season. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mary Kay Cabot is wrapping up her time at The Greenbrier, as are the Browns, and they will hold one more practice there on Sunday morning before traveling back to Cleveland. Mary Kay joined Dan Labbe on Saturday night to answer questions from our Football Insider subscribers about what they saw in training camp over the last week. They start by discussing expectations. Shouldn't we be talking about this team as a championship contender? Can we really talk about all this talent and be happy if they go 9-8? Then they answer questions about which positions they feel good about after this week, players who stepped up, potential breakout players and much more. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns training camp at The Greenbrier rolls into the weekend with the Hall of Fame Game fast approaching. Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock are both in West Virginia while Dan Labbe is back in Cleveland. The three start off Friday's podcast by updating Joe Burrow's injury and what it means for the Week 1 matchup between the two teams on Sept. 10. Will Burrow get up to speed in time for the game? Can the Browns take advantage? Then they look ahead to what to watch Saturday when the Browns will have their second padded practice and likely most spirited practice so far. They wrap up by discussing Donovan Peoples-Jones and what to expect out of the fourth-year receiver this year. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow was carted off the practice field on Thursday and had the NFL world frozen for a few hours. It is reportedly just a calf strain, but Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start off Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing Burrow's injury. Then they turn their focus back to West Virginia and the Browns. They discuss Elijah Moore and the early impressions of the new wide receiver and what this new start means for him. They also get into the emergence of Martin Emerson Jr., one of the early stars of training camp. Lastly, they discuss Anthony Walker Jr. and his return and when he might come back for good. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the fourth day of Browns training camp, reporters heard from one of the team's leaders. Myles Garrett talked and had a chance to clarify and defend some comments a former teammate made about his leadership this offseason. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe join Ashley Bastock to talk about how Garrett has evolved and grown as a leader over his career and where he can still improve, as well as how he handled comments made by Malik Jackson on NFL Network a couple weeks ago. The trio also discusses Greg Newsome II's change in jersey number to No. 0, and look at the year ahead for Newsome, who has had a busy offseason. Finally, they discuss what the Browns' ramp up has looked like as they conclude their first half of practices at The Greenbrier Resort in West Virginia. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s an annual tradition at Browns training camp. On Monday afternoon,Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam spoke with the media during their annual training camp press conferecne, discussing on a wide range of topics over 20-plus minutes. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe join Ashley Bastock as the three hit on their biggest takeaways from the presser, including what they said about Deshaun Watson, the future of Cleveland Browns Stadium, Kevin Stefanski, and the expectations surrounding the team. To round it out, Mary Kay gives the latest update on linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, and details what exactly happened with his foot injury at the end of last season. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s day two of practices for the Browns out at The Greenbrier Resort in West Virginia. After a day full of interviews, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot join Ashley Bastock to discuss their biggest takeaways of Sunday. The trio begin by discussing Deshaun Watson’s media availability and hit on his tone for the season and his attempt at turning the page forward to football after a 2022 season in which he served an 11-game suspension after an investigation into sexual misconduct allegations. They also discuss Nick Chubb, and his thoughts on the running back contract landscape across the league and what it could mean for his future in Cleveland. They also hit on Amari Cooper leaving practice early and being day-to-day, and what GM Andrew Berry had to say about parting ways with Perrion Winfrey. Finally, Dan and Mary Kay give some insight into what it is like covering training camp away from Berea. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns opened up 2023 training camp on Saturday at The Greenbrier. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe recapped the first day of practice on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They start by discussing Marquise Goodwin and him missing the start of camp due to blood clots. How does it impact the Browns and do they expect to see Goodwin this season? Then they talk about Amari Cooper's return from injury and Anthony Schwartz dealing with a hamstring injury to start camp. They also discuss the defense and Denzel Ward and say what they would advise players to do on their off day on Wednesday. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns open training camp Saturday and play a football game in two Thursdays. What better time to throw open the floor and let our Football Insider subscribers ask us whatever they want, football or not. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take one last opportunity to answer as many random questions as they can before diving headfirst into football until at least January. There are football questions, of course, about Kevin Stefanski's playcalling and his future, the defensive line, Andrew Berry's player acquisitions and Browns goals and priorities this season. There are also plenty of non-football questions. Which non-fiction sports books are must reads? Which 'Succession' character do we most relate to? Who would we want to interview (alive or dead)? It's all covered on this Thursday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns waived second-year defensive tackle Perrion Winfrey on Wednesday morning after details emerged of a disturbing incident he was involved in, resulting in Winfrey being listed as a suspect in an aggravated robbery incident. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the latest legal issue for Winfrey on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and why the Browns stuck by Winfrey for so long after a season full of maturity issues and a separate incident in Harris County earlier this offseason. Then they look ahead to training camp and discuss what they're looking forward to watching when the Browns finally take the practice field this weekend and beyond. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Expectations are sky high for the Browns with Deshaun Watson back for a full season and talent on both sides of the ball. Are there any excuses left for this team if they fail to meet the expectations? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from our Football Insider subscribers on another Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They also answer questions about injuries in training camp, whether Nick Chubb could have a big year this year and, of course, talk about those new white helmets. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Training camp week is here and we are back with a brand new Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start by recapping their time off before they get caught up on some recent news, including DeAndre Hopkins agreeing to sign with the Titans. Should the Browns have gone harder after Hopkins? Then they answer questions from Football Insider subscribers about which players could break out this season, who could become the darling of training camp and who we should temper expectations for this year? They also discuss if there are players on the roster who could be Hall of Famers and touch on the league's gambling policy. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're continuing our 23 questions series on today's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Today, our focus is on two of the Browns' most important offensive players, running back Nick Chubb and tight end David Njoku. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing Chubb and how his role will evolve in 2023 and the Browns' new-look offense. Will Chubb get more touches in the passing game? Will he take the next step as an all-around back? Then they turn their attention to David Njoku. Will Njoku make a leap playing a full season with Deshaun Watson at quarterback? Will he put his name in the same sentence as some of the top tight ends in the NFL? Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are expecting to contend this year and that means the spotlight will be back on Cade York as he enters Year 2 as the team's kicker. York is the subject of one of our 23 questions for the Browns in 2023. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start today's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing York. What impact will Bubba Ventrone have on him? How will York bounce back from an up-and-down rookie season? Then they look at the wide receiver position. What does the future hold for Anthony Schwartz and David Bell. Does either player have a role? Could they both be on the bubble? Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Bengals both have their franchise quarterbacks in place, so we got the crews from both Orange and Brown Talk and Strictly Stripes together for our third annual NFL quarterback draft. Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock join Dan Labbe from our Browns beat are joined by Bengals reporters, Andrew Gillis and Mohammad Ahmad for the annual tradition of drafting quarterbacks. The intrigue, of course, is where Joe Burrow and Deshaun Watson land. The five go through three rounds, picking 15 quarterbacks and discuss each one. How high does Burrow go? How much are we betting on Watson's return to pre-Cleveland form? Check out our draft on this special crossover edition of the Orange and Brown Talk and Strictly Stripes podcast. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Where do Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski and Bengals head coach Zac Taylor rank among NFL head coaches and AFC North head coaches? It's a question we set out to answer with our third annual NFL coaches draft. Browns reporters Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are joined by cleveland.com Bengals reporter Andrew Gillis to draft NFL coaches. They go four rounds, picking 12 total. Did Stefanski and Taylor get picked? If so, how high or low did they go? Why did they land -- or not land -- where they did? They pick coaches and discuss their reasoning behind each pick. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The AFC North is loaded as we head into the 2023 season and it's wide open with two clear favorites in the Bengals and Ravens, a sleeper with a high ceiling in the Browns and the Steelers, who are always a difficult team to deal with. In a crossover edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast and Strictly Stripes Podcast, cleveland.com Bengals beat reporter Andrew Gillis joined Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe to draft position groups from the AFC North. They pick 12 position groups and discuss each one as they go along. Find out which team was most represented and see which position are the best in what might be the league's toughest division. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you ready for the first full NFL season in Ohio with legal gambling? On our Friday podcast today, Doug Lesmerises and Dan Labbe got together to figure out some bets they're keeping an eye on as the Browns season approaches. They start by digging through some Browns bets. How bullish do you want to be on this team with Deshaun Watson? Could they win the North? What's the right win total? Could some Browns players win some awards? They throw out some opportunities. Then they look at the NFL and come up with some interesting long shots to watch and some other bets they like. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's been a while since Doug Lesmerises joined us on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast and he's back on Thursday and he has some questions. Doug joins Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe to ask questions about the Browns defense and get caught up on concerns and other things he wants to know. Why will Jim Schwartz be better than Joe Woods? Is there more for Myles Garrett to accomplish? How good can the Browns secondary be? Which unit will be better, the offense or the defense. Doug asks and Dan and Lance answer. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns have made significant changes on both sides of the ball heading into 2023, whether through player acquisitions, coaching changes or both. It's created a high level of intrigue for what this team can do this season. Cleveland.com's film expert, Lance Reisland, joined Dan Labbe on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to talk about the 10 players they are most excited to see this season. They do a draft and take turns picking five players each, starting with some obvious choices and then winding through the roster. At the end, they throw out some honorable mention picks, too, including one player they probably should have drafted. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're steering away from football talk on our Monday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast and we're turning our attention to the Fourth of July. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe decided today would be a great day to do a Fourth of July draft. What are the things we love to do on the holiday? What are the things we love about the holiday? They do a snake draft and pick everything Fourth of July. We're taking the holiday off on Tuesday but will be back on Wednesday with more Browns podcasts -- and make our return to talking Browns and the NFL. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns remade defense features a new coordinator in Jim Schwartz who loves the defensive line and the pass rush. You don't hire a racecar driver like Schwartz, though, and then give him a Honda Civic. The Browns went out and traded for Za'Darius Smith and signed Ogbo Okoronkwo to help bolster the D-line around Myles Garrett. Will Smith and Okoronkwo make the impact the Browns are hoping? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talked about both pass rushers as they continue our 23 questions series. Will Smith get double digit sacks again and make the Pro Bowl? Will Okoronkwo pick up where he left off from the second half of 2022? Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns linebackers were ravaged by injury in 2022 and they're relying on a number of them to return this season and contribute in Jim Schwartz's defense. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe continue their 23 questions series by looking at the team's linebackers and how players will bounce back. They start by talking about how the linebackers will play in Schwartz's scheme and how having an upgraded defensive line will help them. Then they go through the top players at the position and discuss what to expect. Will Anthony Walker Jr. take back over the MIKE linebacker job? What will we say about Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah after this season? What is the future for Jacob Phillips? Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This season ushers in a new era for the Browns defense under Jim Schwartz. How the defensive line performs has made the headlines, but how Schwartz deploys his safeties is another big thing to keep an eye on this season. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe continue their 23 Browns questions series on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by looking at the safeties and how Schwartz might deploy them. Then they turn their attention to backup quarterback. Is Joshua Dobbs the answer for the Browns? When does Dorian Thompson-Robinson need to take over as the backup to justify the pick? Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Myles Garrett's career in Cleveland is already off to a roaring start. He's broken the team's official sack record and will break the unofficial record soon. He's also getting close to 100 sacks and, two years in a row, logged 16 sacks. Is there another level for Garrett? Will he break his own sack record and finally win that elusive Defensive Player of the Year award? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Garrett in their latest 23 questions podcast. Is this the best defensive line he's played on? How will Jim Schwartz impact Garrett? What is the next level for Garrett? They get into all of it on Tuesday's podcast. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's not uncommon for local and national opinions on a team to differ, especially this time of year. Why does it happen? Who's got it right? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle that question on Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Our questions came from our Football Insider subscribers. Mary Kay and Dan also answer questions about leadership at the player level and who might step up, who could Browns fans clamor to get the ball more a few weeks into the season and how will Kevin Stefanski and Alex Van Pelt adjust the offense with Nick Chubb and Deshaun Watson together? They even answer questions about naming the dog mascot and how they'll spend time at The Greenbrier. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this summer Friday, we decided to have a little fun. Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock took questions from our Football Insider Subscribers for an AMA. The two hit on their favorite Cleveland ice cream spots and the latest restaurants they've tried. We're also staying on a music theme this week as they pick their dream concert lineup. There's some football talk mixed in too, as they discuss why they think the NFL John Carroll University pipeline exists since Ashley has some inside knowledge as an alum. They also touch on alternate career paths they think they would be good at, and finally, Mary Kay closes with a fun tidbit from her time covering the team during the Bill Belichick era. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's almost that time of year. We are exactly one month away from the Browns beginning training camp and that means it's time to preview their practice schedule. Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock discuss the schedule for open practices in Berea, and how fans can get free tickets for those eight open sessions. They also discuss Cleveland's decision to begin training camp out of town this year at The Greenbrier Resort in West Virginia with a week of closed practices, and their two joint practices in Philadelphia with the Eagles. The two also get into answering one of their 23 questions ahead of the '23 season. First up, they tackle who will start opposite of Dalvin Tomlinson on the interior defensive line. They make the case for why it could actually be an additional edge rusher in Za'Darius Smith, and all the new alignments they might see. Finally, they break down the latest with Perrion Winfrey and what his role could be after he encountered a legal issue this offseason that charges were dismissed for last week. Want to get involved in Football Insider? Click here for more info and to sign up. Music credit: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices