Nothing Without Us

"I'm trying to recognise that I have been able to bring a body of work into the world that benefits from being shared and interpreted and articulated by others. And also just to really see the impact of becoming the bottleneck for all of that getting out into the world. There's something of ego in there isn't there, there's something of hubris like, Oh, I'm the only person that can do this. That also sits in there. And I've been working in exploring that as well as I expand into the next level of myself and also, as the business expands into the next level of it being."In this solo episode, Angie explores the expansion of Being Luminary and how her thoughts and feelings have changed with it. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/updates-and-expansionsThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I think the idea of it being a golden ticket to being an insider, has already gone. And I think that's a good thing. I mean, I don't have a problem with it. And I think one of the big challenges for the independent sector is, is to ensure that we are fully integrated in society. And we are a force for good both institutionally and for the individuals that we send out into the world.”In this distilled episode, Angie talks to Steffan Griffiths about how he approaches DEI work while holding a lot of privileges. They also talk about how Norwich School dealt with an open letter about racist incidents in the school, and the positive steps Steffan has taken to make the school more diverse and inclusive.Steffan Griffiths has been Headteacher at Norwich School since September 2011. After reading Classics at University College, Oxford, he taught at Tonbridge School (1995-1999) and Eton College (1999-2006). In 2006, he was appointed to the role of Usher (principal deputy head) at Magdalen College School, Oxford. Steffan also holds a first-class honours English Literature degree from the Open University.https://www.norwich-school.org.uk/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukThe full episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-steffan-griffithsA transcript for this shorter episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-dei-in-practice-with-steffan-griffithsThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

"If you do nothing, that is a political act. If you sit on the sidelines, and you are not engaged in using the talents that you have, ultimately for the well being of others, then you're actually contributing to maintaining the status quo, you're not seeking change."In this distillled episode Angie talks to Robin Bevan, Headteacher at Southend High School for Boys. They talk about Robin’s background in trade unionism and non-Conformist religion, about using his privilege to speak up for others, and how his school is focusing on diversity, equity and inclusion.Robin served as National President (2020/21) of the National Education Union: Europe’s largest education trade union. He has been an influential national campaigner on funding, workload and pay. He is also a Patron of the Institute of School Business Leadership.A regular presenter in workshops and conferences: he has developed approaches on organisational leadership that have been transformational in school culture. He has a strong commitment to evidence-based practice: applying educational research into the classroom to enhance learning. He completed his doctorate at the University of Cambridge in conjunction with the ESRC’s Teaching & Learning Research Programme; and is a founding fellow of the Chartered College of Teaching.You can contact Robin at [email protected] with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukThe full episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-robin-bevanA transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-doing-something-with-robin-bevanThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“This is exciting, energising stuff. And while it's difficult, we shouldn't be cowed by that. Because it's through the difficulty that we will make real progress and start to chip away at some very embedded and deep issues that just need to have a light shone on them and that's why we should approach it in a very positive way” In this distilled episode Angie talks to Cheryl Giovannoni about growing up in South Africa, the DEI work that the Girls’ Day School Trust is engaged in and the work that is still to be done.Cheryl Giovannoni joined the Girls’ Day School Trust as CEO in 2016. Born and brought up in South Africa, Cheryl’s first career saw her leading some of the world’s largest companies in the advertising and creative industries in the WPP Group. She was CEO of boutique design agency Coley Porter Bell, European President of global brand consulting firm Landor Associates, and UK CEO of advertising agency Ogilvy & Mather London.Cheryl has spent much of her career supporting women in the workplace, helping them thrive and push the boundaries, often in male dominated industries. Over many years, she has dedicated time to mentoring people from all walks of life, in the GDST family and through the WACL mentoring programme.She is passionate about the power of education to solve the world’s most intractable problems, and the role women play in creating an equal and better world for all.Find out more about Cheryl - https://www.gdst.net/about-us/our-chief-executive/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukThe full episode with Cheryl can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-cheryl-giovannoniThe transcript for this episode is available at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-making-progress-with-cheryl-giovannoniThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

Trigger warning - this podcast contains depictions of both physical and emotional torture and pain. Listener discretion is advised. Somebody asked me recently, what I thought might be different about my life, had I been born in a different skin in less brown skin? And my immediate response was, how could I possibly know? We none of us really know, do we, what the other person experiences. But the thought of not experiencing this life, as someone with brown skin has never really occurred to me, has never really been something that I have tried to inhabit. It would never be something that I could ever walk through, you know, what would a day be like? What would a week be like? I have no idea. What I did think, though, was that there have been some peak experiences. And by peak, I mean bad peak, not good peak. There have been some peak experiences that have really, as the kids say, grind my gears. And one of those is the felt sense that somehow I could cope with things more easily than my peers. And perhaps that I could withstand more emotional pain than my peers, or at least that there was somehow societally an expectation that I could… Read Linda Villarosa’s article - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/racial-differences-doctors.htmlConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk A full transcript of this episode is available at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/the-myth-of-thick-skinThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

"I think as a white woman in this field, there's just so much that one has to try to be mindful of. And I think holding on to this notion that I will be good is just, it's not helpful. Right? Of course, I try to do no harm. I try to be self aware. But there are layers and layers. So I do need people to reflect back. But I also need to be self reliant and responsible and not just expect other people to carry me along and explain and educate me. So I think there's a responsibility and an awareness and an alertness and a need to also just go away and reflect and regroup and sort of just try to understand. But I think, yes, the social construction of everything is the thing that that most speaks to me in this work."In this episode Angie talks to Penny Rabiger about her traumatic childhood, her rediscovery of her Jewishness and life in Israel, and her ongoing research and work in anti-racist activism.Penny Rabiger is an independent consultant. She was a primary and secondary school teacher for 10 years and has been working with schools, MATs, social enterprises, charities and start ups in the education sector since 2007. She was one of the founding directors of The Key for School Leaders, Head of Membership at Challenge Partners, and Director of Engagement with the Finnish edtech organisation, Lyfta. Penny is a school governor at a north London primary school, Trustee on a south London multi-academy trust board, member of the Haringey BAME achievement group and a co-founder of the BAMEed Network. Penny is a PhD candidate with the Centre for Race, Education and Decoloniality, a coach on the Anti-Racist School Award and develops content for our professional learning programmes.Follow Penny on Twitter - @Penny_TenConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-penny-rabigerThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“There are thousands of school leaders and teachers doing those sorts of things every day. And if they weren't, this country would be a lot worse place for this and we don't see it, reward it. I think government takes it for granted that this sort of glue is there. In many ways it sort of uses it, I think, but if we funded it properly, and resourced it and respected it that way, this could be a very powerful force for our country.”In this distilled episode, Angie talks to Russell Hobby about the social impact of good school leadership and how Teach First approaches DEI.Russell joined Teach First as CEO in September 2017, building on more than 15 years developing and promoting leadership in schools. Prior to joining Teach First, Russell was General Secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers (NAHT) and before that worked as a management consultant, helping found Hay Group’s education practice.Russell serves as a trustee of Fair Education Alliance and Teach for All UK Charity Board, as well as participating as a Community Board Member for Digital Poverty Alliance. Russell recently joined the Education Committee at the Royal Society. Russell was awarded a CBE in the New Year Honours List 2022Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-leading-change-with-russell-hobbyThe full interview can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-russell-hobbyThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

In this solo episode, Angie shares an intimate portrait of a day in her life. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/a-day-in-the-life-of-angie-browneThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“Every adult in school is getting paid to be there, including me, the kids are not. They don't get anything out of it. And if they're disengaged from their education, from the learning in that school, they're getting less than nothing. Imagine if somebody said to you as an adult, now, here's the thing, you go to this place, it's not very good for you. You just don't want to be there all day. And maybe it's giving you some kind of anxiety as well on top, and you don't get anything out of it. Why would you go? You know, I see adults, talking about schools,as professionals who say the school is toxic, and they cannot wait to get out of it. If you're a child in a toxic school, you can't get out of it. You've got no power. An adult you can walk. As a child, you can't. And that's what always concerns me. I've been that child in a school thinking, what am I doing here? What is the point of this?”In this episode Angie talks to Richard O’Neill about his nomadic childhood as a member of the Romani community. They explore the prejudices he has experienced in life and work, and the stories he chooses to tell.Richard O’Neill is an internationally acclaimed performance Storyteller, Author and Playwright. He was born and brought up in large traditional, fully nomadic Romani Gypsy family, travelling throughout the North of England and Scotland. His roots are also to be found in the coal mining communities of the North East having family members who worked down the pits. This co-cultural upbringing is reflected in his creative work. As Richard says,’Gypsy in my heart and coal dust in my veins’.Richard grew up working alongside his father and extended family, a keen learner he picked up many of the old skills including peg and spoon making just as they were dying out. Skills he now passes on to others through educational projects in schools and colleges.Find out more about Richard on his website - www.richardthestoryteller.weebly.comConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-richard-oneillThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

'For so many people in my generation who were raised with that kind of colorblind approach, they've always thought there's not no racism at all, but they haven't realised that they've internalised so much of it. Because it is in all, it's in the media, it's in the culture, it's all in there. So it's for us about kind of trying to say to people, it's okay to see that now. And we need to start talking about it, and having really deep meaningful conversations about it, and how that might be impacting on the work that we're doing.'In this distilled episode Angie talks to Claire Bloor about her 'colourblind' upbringing in Ireland, her work with First Nations people in Australia, and her move to working with victims of sexual violence in the UK.Claire has over 20 years’ experience working in the charity sector starting her career in Dublin as a caseworker working with homeless people, she has gone on to manage a broad range of support services in both the UK and Australia including youth justice, employment, training, education, and Aboriginal programs.Find more information about SARSAS at www.sarsas.org.ukConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-recognising-privilege-with-claire-bloorThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

"I found that when I was acting, there were no, I had to audition with monologues. And there were no monologues written for me, for a mixed girl. So I'm like, Well, I'm writing it. And then I was getting asked the What are you? questions so many times when I would go into auditions, that I wrote a monologue, and I it was called, I'm mixed and I walked in the room. They're like, Do you have a monologue? I was like, yes. And it started just to answer all the questions that it consists of, What are you? I'm mixed black and white. So that's how it started."In this episode, Angie talks to Sarah Doneghy about her experience of growing up mixed in West Virginia, moving to New York, and her writing and performance work. They explore the nuances of mixed race experience and why mixed stories need to be shared more.Sarah Doneghy is an actor, writer, and performance artist. She is the creator and host of Mixed Messages – a show where each episode a guest discusses their personal Mixed-Race experience. Her one person show, Mixed Nut, played at the People’s Improv Theater and has been featured in Mixed American Life, iCelebrateDiversity, and Multiracial Media. Her writing can be seen in The Washington Post, Vox, and Black Excellence.Twitter: @sarahdnycityWebsite: sarahdoneghy.comTalk show: Mixed Messages with Sarah DoneghyConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-sarah-doneghyThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

"We're so sort of conditioned to think of writing as this solitary thing where one person tells you how it is - that collaboration is seen as, as less interesting."In this distilled episode Angie talks to Darren Chetty about his varied family background in Wales, the Netherlands and South Africa, and his focus on collaboration through his disparate work in anti racism in primary schools, academic writing, philosophy of education, Hip Hop Ed and DEI consultancy. Darren Chetty taught in London primary schools for twenty years before becoming a Teaching Fellow at UCL Institute of Education. Darren’s award-winning research focuses on philosophy for children, multiculturalism and racism. He is the author of the essay ‘You Can’t Say That! Stories Have to be About White People’ in the British Book Award-shortlisted anthology The Good Immigrant, edited by Nikesh Shukla. Darren reviews and writes about children’s literature for Books for Keeps and is an educational consultant. Twitter @RapClassroomhttps://ioe-ac.academia.edu/DarrenChettyWelsh (Plural), edited by Darren ChettyWasafiri MagazineHow to Disagree, Darren Chetty and Adam FernerConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-creative-collaboration-with-darren-chettyThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

"I have had no reason to achieve the success that I have, to achieve the confidence that I have, to enjoy the life that I have. There is no reason that that should have happened to me, and it can't happen to you. And that's why I've developed this programme. That's why I want to work with you. Because I want you to feel what that feels like, as a woman of colour in your workplace, in your life, to show up and feel like you're in complete control of your destiny is just, it's just luminary." In this solo episode, Angie shares her excitement about her new programme, The Melanated Mastermind. A five-month group programme for women of colour in education.Find out more about The Melanated Mastermind - https://www.angelabrowne.co.uk/melanated-mastermindConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/happy-new-year-and-the-melanated-mastermindThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I kind of realised that, probably from the age of maybe 15/16/17, that if you have advantage, if you have power, whether it is there by virtue of merit, or whether it's there by virtue of the way society is organised, that you can either use that power that influence that voice, to help transform the world into the world that you want to see. Or you can use it to shore things up to your own advantage. And although that's a kind of fairly bleak, split between the two, I also became convinced that if you do nothing, that is a political act. If you if you sit on the sidelines, and you are not engaged in using the talents that you have, for the ultimately for the well being of others, then you're actually contributing to maintaining the status quo, you're not seeking change.“In this episode Angie talks to Robin Bevan, Headteacher at Southend High School for Boys. They talk about Robin’s background in trade unionism and non-Conformist religion, about using his privilege to speak up for others, and how his school is focusing on diversity, equity and inclusion.Robin served as National President (2020/21) of the National Education Union: Europe’s largest education trade union. He has been an influential national campaigner on funding, workload and pay. He is also a Patron of the Institute of School Business Leadership.A regular presenter in workshops and conferences: he has developed approaches on organisational leadership that have been transformational in school culture. He has a strong commitment to evidence-based practice: applying educational research into the classroom to enhance learning. He completed his doctorate at the University of Cambridge in conjunction with the ESRC’s Teaching & Learning Research Programme; and is a founding fellow of the Chartered College of Teaching.You can contact Robin at [email protected] with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-robin-bevanThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

‘When was the last time you asked young people about identity and about how safe they feel to bring their identity into school. Because that's the starting point to mitigating attrition of both students and staff.’In this masterclass episode, Angie focuses on listening to your stakeholders, particularly on issues of race. She discusses how to narrow the gap between pupils’ perception of racist incidents and staff perceptions, and invites you to consider how your own school would address such issues.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/a-being-luminary-masterclass-listening-to-your-stakeholdersThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“Our ability to weather storms in our schools, I believe, rests on our ability to have skilful, and confident conversations with all of our stakeholders”In this masterclass episode, Angie presents a strategy for developing an SLT that can navigate stormy weather, going beyond just being good people to gain a DEI Intellectual Quotient leading to a DEI Emotional Quotient through deliberate practice.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/a-being-luminary-masterclass-develop-your-teamThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I think the idea of it being a golden ticket to being an insider, has already gone. And I think that's a good thing. I mean, I don't have a problem with it. And I think one of the big challenges for the independent sector is, is to ensure that we are fully integrated in society. And we are a force for good both institutionally and for the individuals that we send out into the world.”In this episode Angie talks to Steffan Griffiths about how he approaches DEI work while holding a lot of privileges. They also talk about how Norwich School dealt with an open letter about racist incidents in the school, and the positive steps Steffan has taken to make the school more diverse and inclusive.Steffan Griffiths has been Headteacher at Norwich School since September 2011. After reading Classics at University College, Oxford, he taught at Tonbridge School (1995-1999) and Eton College (1999-2006). In 2006, he was appointed to the role of Usher (principal deputy head) at Magdalen College School, Oxford. Steffan also holds a first-class honours English Literature degree from the Open University.https://www.norwich-school.org.uk/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-steffan-griffithsThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“This is exciting, energising stuff. And while it's difficult, we shouldn't be cowed by that. Because it's through the difficulty that we will make real progress and start to chip away at some very embedded and deep issues that just need to have a light shone on them and that's why we should approach it in a very positive way” In this episode Angie talks to Cheryl Giovannoni about growing up in South Africa, and being a South African in Britain. They also discuss what makes girls’ schools valuable, and the DEI work that the Girls’ Day School Trust is engaged in.Cheryl Giovannoni joined the Girls’ Day School Trust as CEO in 2016. Born and brought up in South Africa, Cheryl’s first career saw her leading some of the world’s largest companies in the advertising and creative industries in the WPP Group. She was CEO of boutique design agency Coley Porter Bell, European President of global brand consulting firm Landor Associates, and UK CEO of advertising agency Ogilvy & Mather London.Cheryl has spent much of her career supporting women in the workplace, helping them thrive and push the boundaries, often in male dominated industries. Over many years, she has dedicated time to mentoring people from all walks of life, in the GDST family and through the WACL mentoring programme.She is passionate about the power of education to solve the world’s most intractable problems, and the role women play in creating an equal and better world for all.Find out more about Cheryl - https://www.gdst.net/about-us/our-chief-executive/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-cheryl-giovannoniThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“There are thousands of school leaders and teachers doing those sorts of things every day. And if they weren't, this country would be a lot worse place for this and we don't see it, reward it. I think government takes it for granted that this sort of glue is there. In many ways it sort of uses it, I think, but if we funded it properly, and resourced it and respected it that way, this could be a very powerful force for our country.”In this episode Angie talks to Russell Hobby about his origin story, from PPE at Oxford, to trade union head to leading Teach First. They discuss the social impact of good school leadership and how Teach First approaches DEI.Russell joined Teach First as CEO in September 2017, building on more than 15 years developing and promoting leadership in schools. Prior to joining Teach First, Russell was General Secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers (NAHT) and before that worked as a management consultant, helping found Hay Group’s education practice.Russell serves as a trustee of Fair Education Alliance and Teach for All UK Charity Board, as well as participating as a Community Board Member for Digital Poverty Alliance. Russell recently joined the Education Committee at the Royal Society. Russell was awarded a CBE in the New Year Honours List 2022Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-russell-hobbyThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

'For so many people in my generation who were raised with that kind of colorblind approach, they've always thought there's not no racism at all, but they haven't realised that they've internalised so much of it. Because it is in all, it's in the media, it's in the culture, it's all in there. So it's for us about kind of trying to say to people, it's okay to see that now. And we need to start talking about it, and having really deep meaningful conversations about it, and how that might be impacting on the work that we're doing.'In this episode Angie talks to Claire Bloor about her work with First Nations people in Australia, and her move to working with victims of sexual violence in the UK. They discuss the need to embrace intersectionality in working with women, and how being luminary can transform an organization.Claire has over 20 years’ experience working in the charity sector starting her career in Dublin as a caseworker working with homeless people, she has gone on to manage a broad range of support services in both the UK and Australia including youth justice, employment, training, education, and Aboriginal programs.Find more information about SARSAS at www.sarsas.org.ukClaire mentions the work of Reni Eddo-Lodge http://renieddolodge.co.uk/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-claire-bloorThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I remember talking to my PhD supervisor at the time, and saying I'm really getting fed up with being the angriest person in the room. And his response was, you need to find yourself some new rooms.”In this episode Angie talks to Darren Chetty about his origin story, including his varied family background in the Netherlands and South Africa, and his focus on collaboration through his disparate work in anti racism in primary schools, academic writing, philosophy of education, Hip Hop Ed and DEI consultancy. Darren Chetty taught in London primary schools for twenty years before becoming a Teaching Fellow at UCL Institute of Education. Darren’s award-winning research focuses on philosophy for children, multiculturalism and racism. He is the author of the essay ‘You Can’t Say That! Stories Have to be About White People’ in the British Book Award-shortlisted anthology The Good Immigrant, edited by Nikesh Shukla. Darren reviews and writes about children’s literature for Books for Keeps and is an educational consultant. Twitter @RapClassroomhttps://ioe-ac.academia.edu/DarrenChettyWelsh (Plural), edited by Darren ChettyWasafiri MagazineHow to Disagree, Darren Chetty and Adam FernerConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-darren-chettyThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

"I often think I developed a way of being that is quite convenient, but actually on reflection, I think I was already destined to be that person. But notice, when I look back on how helpful that chameleon like aptitude was, as I made my way through school, because I was very able to put people at ease, very able to make people feel as though my race was not going to cause them any problem."In this distilled episode, Angie reflects on her childhood and first teaching experience, in coversation with Claire Stewart-Hall.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukListen to the full episode - Season 2 Episode 3 https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/angies-origin-storyA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-angies-origin-storyThis episode was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

‘I really want schools to be places that shine a light on their own challenges in DEI and that shine a light on their own great practice because I believe that that kind of unrelenting focus and that willingness to look at every dark corner will change communities, will change society, will change individuals who work in organisations and will allow organisations to innovate in as yet unimagined ways. I think luminary organisations are great for the world. And the organisations that embrace this work boldly, are some of the most creative, curious, courageous and exciting places to work.’In this solo episode, Angie gives you an insight into the thinking behind the Being Luminary Programme and outlines how the programme works within schools and colleges.Find out more about the Being Luminary Programme at www.angelabrowne.co.uk/diversity-inclusion-consultingConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/so-what-is-the-being-luminary-programmeThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

‘Just like every other story has been partial and imperfect, just like the coloniser story has been partial and imperfect, I give myself licence to tell a partial and imperfect story about myself’This episode is part two of Angie’s conversation with her long time friend and colleague Claire Stewart-Hall.They discuss the contributions that Angie’s previous roles have made to her current practice, modelling flexibility and reflection, self care, deciding what to let in, and Angie’s commitment to aesthetics.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/following-the-breadcrumbsThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I think I'm more taken by the breathtaking nature of what would happen if we just decentralised some of those voices, those activities that are currently dominated by the majority And I've become increasingly aware of just how brilliant people are.” In this episode, the tables are turned, and Angie is interviewed by her long time friend and colleague Claire Stewart-Hall.They discuss Angie’s origin story, from her childhood move from North London to Devon, through her teaching career to her motivation to work in the DEI space. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/angies-origin-storyThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

'In a perfect world, diversity, equity and inclusion would be an aspirational goal in any society, any classroom, any workplace.'This is a really short episode because I wanted to make an audio recording of a recent newsletter that has gone out from Being Luminary towers. And it's because it's been on my mind over the last couple of weeks. The newsletter itself was a response to some critique I had from a friend about the relevance and importance of diversity, equity and inclusion work. The feeling from my friend was that not only was this work not relevant or important, but that it was dangerous. And so I wanted to respond to that, and put a newsletter out to that effect earlier this week. And so this is for those of you that would rather ingest your material through your ears. And for those of you that are not signed up to the newsletter, and if so, why not? If you do want to sign up to the newsletter, by the way, just head over to my website and click Sign Up to Newsletter. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-defence-of-deiThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

‘The system really needs to build in more accountability for it to do its work properly, and then to hold us to account for our silence and our avoidance of what are clearly institutional issues.’I've been reflecting this week on the murder of Chris Kaba. And thinking about how two years ago, people were very, very exercised about the murder of George Floyd. There's been relatively little notice taken of Chris Kaba in this country, somewhat overshadowed by the recent death of Queen Elizabeth II and so it's just given me pause, really, again to think about race, and how we talk about race and how we acknowledge the deep, existing abiding racism that exists in many of our institutions. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/what-do-you-thinkThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

A quick update from Angie, about Season 2 of Being Luminary, which begins on Thursday 6th October 2022.Make sure you follow the podcast, wherever you're listening, so that you don't miss the new episodes coming soon. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/looking-forward-to-season-2This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music is by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

‘If you haven't got someone symbolising the strength and power of diversity, as well as having the systems to back it up. It fails, it doesn't work. Whenever we're doing anything, and whenever we're producing anything, we say why’In this distilled episode Angie talks to Will Smith, CEO of Greenshaw Learning Trust, about using experience to motivate change, and bringing people onboard by embracing diversity of opinions and explaining why.Will Smith is a Physics teacher, and was leader of the PiXL network for a number of years. He is now Chief Executive Officer of Greenshaw Learning Trust, a multi academy trust of over 20 schools. www.greenshawlearningtrust.co.ukConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukListen to the full episode - Episode 12 https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-will-smithA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-will-smithThis episode was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

“There never is a barrier; it's only a perceived barrier”In this distilled episode Angie talks to Abby Bayford, Director of Institute at the Academy Transformation Trust, a national multi-academy trust, about discovering that difference can be talked about, and should be shared by the people who experience it.Abby has been a qualified teacher for 14 years, working in and supporting a range of schools in the Midlands. Abby now leads on people development across all directorates for all employees at Academy Transformation Trust. Abby has been invited to share this work at national events; she has also written for national publications on CPD design principles.Find out more about Abby www.academytransformationtrust.co.uk/our-team/abby-bayfordHear more in Episode 10 - www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-abby-bayfordConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-abby-bayford This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

"There have been thresholds in my life where I have actually dug into what I've thought, rather than be binary. I obviously got through, I did it through education. So I learned about the history of lesbian and gay and trans people. I learned about women's history, I learned about black history. And I learned that people have always navigated those boundaries, and those thresholds and created lives for themselves."In this episode distilled episode, Angie talks to Claire Stewart-Hall founder of Equitable Coaching. Claire served as a leader in schools in the UK for twenty years in urban areas of economic disadvantage and poverty and has experience of supporting creativity, positivity and self-organising systems to enable positive cultures to grow.You can find the full episode here - Episode 8 - In Conversation with Claire Stewart-HallFind out more about Claire on her website - www.equitablecoaching.comFollow here on Twitter @clairerising and @equitablecoach1Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-negotiating-boundaries-with-claire-stewart-hallThis podcast was presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

"I've had to have a lot of conversations. I've been to a lot of funerals. But it's really important to do that stuff. And to be able to talk about it and support people through those situations, and being able to write to them and have the conversation rather than shy away from it and say to other people, you need to do that."In this distilled episode Angie talks to Dave Baker, CEO of the Olympus Academy Trust. They discuss the influence of Dave’s childhood in a busy vicarage on his leadership style, and his approach to addressing diversity, equity and inclusion within his organization. You can find the full episode here - Episode 7Find out more about Olympus Academy Trust here - www.olympustrust.co.uk/Representation Matters can be found at www.repmatters.co.uk/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-dave-bakerThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

"I haven't got the knowledge. You know, we're sharing knowledge, we're transmitting that knowledge between us, we're shaping it between us. And sometimes that comes with truths, you know, things that are hard to swallow, things that are unpalatable, to kind of keep extending this metaphor. And that's okay."In this distilled episode, Angie talks to Bennie Kara about finding her identity in terms of both race and sexuality.You can find the full conversation in Episode 6 Bennie Kara is a deputy headteacher in the East Midlands, specialising in curriculum, teaching and learning. She started her career in the inaugural cohort of Teach First in 2003, teaching English in East London. Since then, she has taught in four London boroughs and in South Oxfordshire, before returning to Derby.Bennie speaks, writes and trains on diversity in the curriculum. Alongside supporting schools to diversify their curriculum, she is the author of 'A Little Guide for Teachers: Diversity in Schools' (Sage Education). She has written on the subject of diversity for publications such as Schools Week and the Chartered College of Teaching's Education Exchange. She is a supporter of the grassroots online movements such as @WomenEd, @BAMEednetwork and @LGBTedUK, and has featured as a keynote speaker for @DiverseEd2020 and the Team English National Conference. Bennie is also on the executive team of @SLTchat.Find Bennie at www.diverseeducators.co.ukConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-with-bennie-karaThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

“I think our beliefs about the world, yes, are are formed by the very big messages that we get. But I actually believe that they're even more informed and I don't know what the evidence is for this, this is just my view, but are even more formed by all the little things that happen to you on a day to day basis.” In this distilled episode, Andy Buck talks about creating positive micro signals for his students and his legacy in education.Listen to the full episode here - Being Luminary Episode 5A geography teacher by trade, Andy went on to become a headteacher for thirteen years at two schools in east London. In the last year of headship, his school was judged outstanding in all categories and Andy was designated a National Leader of Education. In 2009 he become a Director at the National College for School Leadership, leading on the London Challenge programme. He was subsequently responsible for setting up the government's flagship Teaching Schools programme before being appointed as Managing Director at United Learning, one of the country’s largest academy groups.A full transcript of this episode is available at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-andy-buckFind out more about Andy at www.andybuck.org.ukFollow Andy on Twitter @andy__buckConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I started talking about an alternative improvement agenda that wasn't based on blaming people, wasn't based on labelling children, it wasn't based on tracking performance. It was essentially based on on openness and questioning and inventiveness and so on, that was all about a highly inclusive way of thinking about teaching and learning.”A second chance to hear Angie talk to Dame Alison Peacock, Chief Executive of the Chartered College of Teaching and originator of Learning Without Limits about her motivation, her career and the future of the Chartered College of Teaching. They discuss how to ensure that our disadvantaged, minoritised, or underachieving children are not overlooked in our school, what drives those teachers who are brave enough to try to make a difference, and how can we change the culture of education for the better.https://chartered.college/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk A full transcript of this episode can be viewed at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-alison-peacockThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“When we think about parental engagement, I’m encouraging us to just sit in that space between praise and blame, and really lean into compassion and non-judgement.”In this solo episode of Being Luminary, Angie explores how we can cultivate fertile ground through trust, compassion and openness, to better work with parents as we strengthen our DEI work in schools. She ends with posing some questions you can use to support your work with stakeholders.Read more in Lighting the Way: the case for ethical leadership in schools, by Angela BrowneConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/engaging-stakeholders-in-dei-workThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“It turned out that I could not be an innocent bystander, and the more I understood this, the more it became possible for people to ask me for help”In this episode Angie shares five of the prompts that she gives her podcast guests, to tease out their stories, and their personal reflections on diversity, equity and inclusion work.In doing so, she shares her own thoughts from her blog about the prompts, and encourages you to think what your answers would be.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/questions-we-can-ask-ourselvesThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“Really luminary work is recalibrating around being better places to be, for everyone”In this solo episode of Being Luminary, Angie encourages you to stop playing DEI whack-a-mole and focus on being intersectional in all aspects of recruitment and retention.Angie highlights areas of recruitment that tend to be overlooked, and gives three practical ways to attract a more diverse talent pool.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/recruiting-with-diversity-in-mindThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

‘If you haven't got someone symbolising the strength and power of diversity, as well as having the systems to back it up. It fails, it doesn't work. Whenever we're doing anything, and whenever we're producing anything, we say why’In this episode Angie talks to Will Smith, CEO of Greenshaw Learning Trust, about using experience to motivate change, and bringing people onboard by embracing diversity of opinions and explaining why.Will Smith is a Physics teacher, and was leader of the PiXL network for a number of years. He is now Chief Executive Officer of Greenshaw Learning Trust, a multi academy trust of over 20 schools. www.greenshawlearningtrust.co.ukConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-will-smithThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“At the heart of diversity, equity, inclusion work for me, is a desire to be respectful enough to know who we remember and why.”In the wake of the terrorist attack in Buffalo, and the anniversary of the death of George Floyd, a reminder of why and for whom we do this work.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/lest-we-forgetThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“There never is a barrier; it's only a perceived barrier”In this episode Angie talks to Abby Bayford, Director of Institute at the Academy Transformation Trust, a national multi-academy trust, about discovering that difference can be talked about, and should be shared by the people who experience it.Abby has been a qualified teacher for 14 years, working in and supporting a range of schools in the Midlands. Abby now leads on people development across all directorates for all employees at Academy Transformation Trust. Abby has been invited to share this work at national events; she has also written for national publications on CPD design principles.Find out more about Abby www.academytransformationtrust.co.uk/our-team/abby-bayfordConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-abby-bayfordThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

Is following a framework enough when it comes to diversity, equity, inclusion work? What motivates us to do the work?In this solo episode of Being Luminary, Angie looks at why it is important to explore the culture and practice of your organization as part of DEI work, and why one size may not fit all.Find out more about the Luminary Leadership of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Programme visit www.angelabrowne.co.uk/luminary-leadership-deiConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/loving-the-complexityThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I got comfortable with challenge, challenging spaces, challenging people, challenging, being the question asker, being the disrupter, I guess, because that's how my family viewed me. The coming out was disruptive.” In this episode Angie talks to Claire Stewart-Hall founder of Equitable Coaching. Claire served as a leader in schools in the UK for twenty years in urban areas of economic disadvantage and poverty and has experience of supporting creativity, positivity and self-organising systems to enable positive cultures to grow.They talk about Claire’s childhood growing up with a Protestant father and an Irish Catholic mother in 1980s England, coming out as a lesbian, and her role as a coach helping organisations to understand their racial biases. Claire and Angie explore the idea of the coach as doula for new ideas and strategies, and how to navigate equitable change through uncomfortable emotions.Find out more about Claire on her website - www.equitablecoaching.comFollow here on Twitter @clairerising and @equitablecoach1Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-claire-stewart-hallThis podcast was presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I suppose I want to move beyond the point of staff, being nervous and feeling they can't say stuff because they're frightened, they're not going to say the right stuff, we got to get beyond that and just start to be honest about where, where we're uncomfortable, and start to confront the uncomfortable so that we can move into a different place.” In this episode Angie talks to Dave Baker, CEO of the Olympus Academy Trust, a family of 9 schools working together within a multi-academy trust to provide the best possible educational experience and outcomes for young people in the Bristol area. They discuss the influence of Dave’s childhood in a busy vicarage on his leadership style, and his approach to addressing diversity, equity and inclusion within his organization. Dave highlights the particular challenges that the geography and population that his Trust serves creates, and how he deals with those challenges in the glare of social and broadcast media.Find out more about Olympus Academy Trust here - www.olympustrust.co.uk/Representation Matters can be found at www.repmatters.co.uk/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-dave-bakerThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I think luminary work … is a process of truth gathering, and acknowledging that there are truths that you might not be comfortable with. So you know, the questions you ask of yourself, as a teacher, for example - what are the truths of our workplace? What are the truths for the adults and what truths for the children and recognising the truth for someone else, might be completely different from your own truth.”In this episode Angie talks to Bennie Kara about her work in diversity. Bennie shares her experience of feeling like an outsider to both her home and school cultures, and her early rejection of her heritage. She shares candidly about the devastation she felt when she didn’t fit in during her teacher training, and how her experiences have influenced her work in bringing people to the table.Bennie Kara is a deputy headteacher in the East Midlands, specialising in curriculum, teaching and learning. She started her career in the inaugural cohort of Teach First in 2003, teaching English in East London. Since then, she has taught in four London boroughs and in South Oxfordshire, before returning to Derby.Bennie speaks, writes and trains on diversity in the curriculum. Alongside supporting schools to diversify their curriculum, she is the author of 'A Little Guide for Teachers: Diversity in Schools' (Sage Education). She has written on the subject of diversity for publications such as Schools Week and the Chartered College of Teaching's Education Exchange. She is a supporter of the grassroots online movements such as @WomenEd, @BAMEednetwork and @LGBTedUK, and has featured as a keynote speaker for @DiverseEd2020 and the Team English National Conference. Bennie is also on the executive team of @SLTchat.Find Bennie at www.diverseeducators.co.ukConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-bennie-karaThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

“I think our beliefs about the world, yes, are are formed by the very big messages that we get. But I actually believe that they're even more informed and I don't know what the evidence is for this, this is just my view, but are even more formed by all the little things that happen to you on a day to day basis.” In this episode Angie talks to Andy Buck about his teaching career, his regret at not being ‘out’ to the pupils in his care, and his work to build a legacy in coaching.A geography teacher by trade, Andy went on to become a headteacher for thirteen years at two schools in east London. In the last year of headship, his school was judged outstanding in all categories and Andy was designated a National Leader of Education. In 2009 he become a Director at the National College for School Leadership, leading on the London Challenge programme. He was subsequently responsible for setting up the government's flagship Teaching Schools programme before being appointed as Managing Director at United Learning, one of the country’s largest academy groups.Since 2014, Andy has founded Leadership Matters which aims to improve the educational outcomes for pupils by supporting great leadership development. Leadership Matters is a web-based membership organisation that offers school leaders access to high quality online development tools and other leadership articles, videos and blogs. A full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-andy-buckFind out more about Andy at www.andybuck.org.ukFollow Andy on Twitter @andy__buckConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

How do we create psychological safety for people who hold marginalised and intersectional identities? How do we support people who hold these identities in bringing their voices into the organisation that we're working in creatively, in ways that will actually help our organisations develop, in ways that will actually help our organisations become luminary? Find out more about the Luminary Leadership of Diversity Equity and Inclusion Programme www.angelabrowne.co.uk/luminary-leadership-deiConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/the-problem-with-psychological-safetyThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

Trigger warning - this podcast contains depictions of both physical and emotional torture and pain. Listener discretion is advised. Somebody asked me recently, what I thought might be different about my life, had I been born in a different skin in less brown skin? And my immediate response was, how could I possibly know? We none of us really know, do we, what the other person experiences. But the thought of not experiencing this life, as someone with brown skin has never really occurred to me, has never really been something that I have tried to inhabit. It would never be something that I could ever walk through, you know, what would a day be like? What would a week be like? I have no idea. What I did think, though, was that there have been some peak experiences. And by peak, I mean bad peak, not good peak. There have been some peak experiences that have really, as the kids say, grind my gears. And one of those is the felt sense that somehow I could cope with things more easily than my peers. And perhaps that I could withstand more emotional pain than my peers, or at least that there was somehow societally an expectation that I could… Read Linda Villarosa’s article - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/racial-differences-doctors.htmlConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk A full transcript of this episode is available at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/the-myth-of-thick-skinThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I started talking about an alternative improvement agenda that wasn't based on blaming people, wasn't based on labelling children, it wasn't based on tracking performance. It was essentially based on on openness and questioning and inventiveness and so on, that was all about a highly inclusive way of thinking about teaching and learning.”In this episode Angie talks to Dame Alison Peacock, Chief Executive of the Chartered College of Teaching and originator of Learning Without Limits about her motivation, her career and the future of the Chartered College of Teaching. They discuss how to ensure that our disadvantaged, minoritised, or underachieving children are not overlooked in our school, what drives those teachers who are brave enough to try to make a difference, and how can we change the culture of education for the better.https://chartered.college/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk A full transcript of this episode can be viewed at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-alison-peacockThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

Introducing Being Luminary, the new podcast from Angie Browne.In this podcast, you are going to get to hear a combination of my thoughts on how we can be luminary. I'm going to be talking across this vast topic area of diversity, equity and inclusion. I'm going to be shining a light on the complexities of holding some of these marginalized and intersectional identities. I'm going to be talking through the lens of sex, sexual orientation, religion and belief, through the lens of age, through the lens of trans inclusion, through the lens of gender, through the lens of disability, of pregnancy and maternity. I'm going to be looking through the lens of all of those protected marginalized identities and sharing luminary practice, sharing luminary stories. I'm going to be offering provocation, and I'm going to be offering support. Because my intention is that the Being Luminary podcast becomes a safe harbour.And you won't just be hearing from me. Over the coming months, I've got some really beautiful interviews lined up for you. The people I'm speaking to are every day, you will definitely have heard of some of them, and they would describe themselves as everyday people. But they are by no means ordinary, they are everyday, but by no means ordinary luminaries, and I hope that you're going to learn from them, I hope you're going to be inspired by them. I hope that our conversations will encourage you to decide that maybe the time has come for you to shine some light too and I want you to learn from this podcast, I want you to have some things that you can take away. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk A full transcript of this episode is available at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/welcome-to-being-luminaryThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.