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Hookworms: Can parasites improve your health?
Episode 7

Hookworms: Can parasites improve your health?

Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics · Regina Nuzzo and Kristin Sainani

May 5, 20251h 8m

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Show Notes

What if you could treat your prediabetes with . . . worms? Regina and Kristin dive into a surprising early-phase clinical trial on hookworm therapy—that’s right, intentionally infecting yourself with parasitic worms—to treat metabolic conditions. They dig into the biological rationale (inflammation, abdominal fat, and gut immunology), the clever study design (hello, Tabasco sauce!), and the statistical chops behind this phase 1B trial (block randomization, missing data, and nonparametric hypothesis tests).  Along the way, expect self-experimenting scientists, worm sex, poop analysis, and the world’s nerdiest aphrodisiac: a well-documented protocol.

Statistical topics

  • Randomized controlled trial (RCT)
  • Primary and secondary outcomes
  • Placebos, placebo effect, and nocebo effect
  • Block randomization
  • Sample size
  • Double-blinding
  • Missing data protocols
  • Reproducible research
  • Nonparametric hypothesis testing
  • Kruskal-Wallis test

Methodological morals

  • “Walk before you can run. Invest in simple but high-quality Phase I clinical trials.”
  • “When faced with small samples, you better rank and sum, baby.”

References


Kristin and Regina’s online courses

Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding  

Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis 

Medical Statistics Certificate Program  

Writing in the Sciences 

Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 


Program we teach in:

Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 


Find us on:

Kristin -  LinkedIn & Twitter/X

Regina - LinkedIn & ReginaNuzzo.com


  • (02:44) - What happens when scientists experiment on themselves
  • (06:56) - Mail-order DIY helminthic therapy
  • (09:26) - Hookworm biology
  • (15:53) - Inflammation, abdominal fat, immune system, and hookworms
  • (22:26) - Hookworm therapy clinical trial design
  • (26:57) - Clinical trial phases deep dive
  • (32:21) - Interesting placebos (sham surgeries and psychedelics)
  • (38:30) - Excitement over hookworm trial open data and data protocols
  • (45:42) - Hookworm trial results
  • (49:45) - Mood and well-being with hookworms
  • (54:23) - Effects of hookworms on weight
  • (57:06) - Nonparametric tests and how they work
  • (01:03:53) - What the participants did after the study
  • (01:05:50) - Wrap-up

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