30 Years. One Truth
None of Your Business Podcast · Michael Greenfield & Abraham (Ushy) Schwartz
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Show Notes
Michael Greenfield and co-host David interview Jonathan Pollard, sharing his experiences and reflections on his espionage activities for Israel, his arrest, and life in prison. They delve into his early life, motivations for his actions, and the immense difficulties he faced, including his harsh treatment during incarceration and the profound impact on his personal life. Pollard discusses his perspective on truth, leadership, and loyalty, and describes pivotal moments, such as his conversation with God in solitary confinement, and support from his late wife, Esther. This candid discussion provides a deep insight into the complexities of espionage, national loyalty, and personal resilience.
00:00 A Personal Plea to God
00:42 Introduction to the Podcast
01:07 Welcoming the Special Guest
01:51 Transparency and Truth in Israel
04:04 David's Background and Connection
05:40 A Story of Loss and Duty
09:41 October 7th and Its Aftermath
11:13 Controversial Views on Hostages
14:31 Critique of Israeli Leadership
29:52 Early Life and Education
50:05 Journey into Espionage
57:06 Involvement in the Raid and Its Aftermath
58:22 Intelligence Embargo and Public Revelations
59:07 Personal Involvement and Consequences
01:00:31 Chemical Warfare Plant Discovery
01:02:24 Espionage and Betrayal
01:12:48 Arrest and Interrogation
01:19:17 Prison Life and Reflections
01:39:17 Release and Final Reflections