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Show Notes
John's guest this week is former US Congressman Fred Upton, from the Southwesternmost District of Michigan. They discuss Upton's participation in Congress for the past 36 years and his new volunteer work in No Labels, an organization aimed at working on a bipartisan basis to work for practical solutions to national problems. Especially they talk over that organization's movement for a possible 3rd Party nomination for President of the United States in 2024.
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