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In this episode of the New Media Show, hosted by Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee, the hosts discuss their predictions for podcasting in 2025. The conversation starts with Todd discussing the various online streaming platforms he has been experimenting with, specifically StreamYard, Riverside, and Restream. He shares frustrations about these platforms’ usability features, noting that specific platforms lack efficient screen-switching capabilities, which frustrate his workflow during live-streamed tech shows. Rob then suggests considering OBS as an alternative, noting its steep learning curve but potential benefits. Todd laments spending on multiple streaming services that don’t meet all his needs. They agree that while some services come close to perfect with certain features, others lag frustratingly behind. As the conversation evolves, they delve into broader predictions for podcasting in 2025. Both hosts agree that video podcasting will continue to gain attention, though they share concerns about whether monetization models for video content will become viable for creators. They also predict a rise in highly specialized podcasting networks focusing on niches, reflecting a media industry trend towards more targeted content offerings. The conversation concludes with speculation about new technologies impacting podcasting, like evolving AI capabilities that might alter content production and distribution. The participants express skepticism about AI in content creation and stress the importance of authenticity in human-generated content. Overall, the episode captures technical frustrations, insights into evolving media strategies, and thoughtful predictions about the podcasting industry’s trajectory into 2025. It is wrapped up in a candid and engaging conversation between two veterans in the field.The post New Media Show – Podcasting Predictions for 2025 #611 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this podcast episode titled “Tired of the Video Discussion? Thank, Spotify / YouTube,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee engage in a comprehensive discussion around various aspects of podcasting, technology, and media platforms. The episode initiates with Todd explaining their switch to a new recording platform, Riverside, due to issues with video quality on other platforms. Both hosts express their frustrations with the limitations and changes in video uploading and streaming on platforms like Restream and StreamYard. As the conversation progresses, they delve into recent developments with Riverside, including a significant funding round and new features like multitrack editing tools. Discussion shifts to general platform updates and their implications for content creators, highlighting how different platforms are integrating tools that simplify the content creation process and offer direct publishing to platforms like YouTube. Midway through the episode, Todd and Rob discuss broader trends in the podcasting industry, including Spotify’s impact on podcast publishing and the handling of video content on the platform. They explore the technical and strategic challenges of adapting to platforms like Spotify that prioritize video, discussing potential impacts on audio content and advertising revenue. The conversation shifts to lighter topics, including humorous anecdotes and personal experiences, maintaining a dynamic and engaging discourse. They touch on industry events, future predictions about video content, and the sustainability of heavy investments in video by big companies which might lead to layoffs if these investments do not return profits. Throughout the episode, Todd and Rob maintain a critical and insightful dialogue on the evolving landscape of podcasting and video content, providing listeners with a deep dive into technical challenges, platform dynamics, and industry shifts. They wrap up the episode discussing their own experiences and plans with their podcasting endeavors and reflect on the broader implications of recent industry developments for independent creators and big platforms alike.The post Tired of the Video Discussion? Thank, Spotify / YouTube #610 first appeared on New Media Show.

Is Dave Winer intentionally ignoring the advancements of RSS that the Podcasting 2.0 initiative has been undertaking? I contend he has. In this episode of the podcast, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee engage in a varied discussion that starts with a casual conversation about Thanksgiving experiences and quickly dives into deeper issues regarding the current state and future of podcasting. The conversation is sparked by a statement from Dave Winer about the evolving use of the term “podcast,” particularly how it’s being co-opted by video content on platforms like YouTube. Winer suggests that enhancing the open podcast platform is crucial to preserving the creative essence of podcasting. Todd and Rob discuss their concerns about the dilution of the podcast identity, emphasizing their efforts through “Podcasting 2.0” to innovate on RSS feeds, which they feel Winer underappreciates. They express frustration over Winer’s lack of engagement and his focus on past achievements. Todd explains why he has stopped using Cloud Wowza for live HLS video due to cost inefficiency, directing viewers instead to individual platforms. A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the changes and strategies in platforms like Spotify and YouTube, particularly how these platforms are influencing podcast formats and the importance of maintaining audio podcast integrity alongside video offerings. They criticize the industry’s heavy monetization tactics, often leading to overloaded ad placements that could alienate listeners. Todd and Rob also explore broader trends in content consumption and platform loyalty and how podcasters can strategically navigate these changes to protect their content and audience engagement. They reflect on the need for podcasters to educate themselves on new technologies and innovations to keep up with the evolving media landscape. Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain a light-hearted yet pointed critique of various players in the podcasting industry, including platform giants and even the pioneers who seem resistant to new changes. The episode ends with a call to podcasters to be adaptable, proactive, and mindful of their content’s integrity and strategic choices in a rapidly shifting digital environment.The post Dave Winer & RSS #609 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the podcast “Podcasting is the Media,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee explore significant changes and developments within the podcasting industry. Todd Cochrane starts the conversation by reflecting on the broad perspective that podcasting and online media have become synonymous with mainstream media. Rob mentions specific shifts, like Comcast’s move away from mainstream cable channels due to declining audiences. Rob Greenlee expands on the idea, discussing the role of video in podcasting and how major platforms have influenced the industry’s evolution. He talks about the derogatory treatment of video podcasting by more giant platforms like Spotify and the industry’s potential mistakes in handling video content. The discussion shifts to technical aspects of podcast video delivery and the economic factors that host platforms must consider. Further into the episode, Todd highlights Apple’s responsiveness and innovation regarding podcasts, hinting at upcoming features that could benefit podcast creators. The conversation turns to the complexities introduced by platforms like Spotify. The hosts also touch upon censorship and content management issues on various platforms, and Todd shares insights into some podcasts facing challenges with Spotify over content rights and licensing. They delve into the broader implications of how platforms manage user content and the potential barriers that proprietary platforms can establish, which may affect the open nature of podcasting typically enabled by RSS feeds. The conversation takes a broader turn as they discuss the transitions from broadcasting to podcasting, referencing significant shifts seen within industries as mainstream media figures move to independent podcasting ventures. This leads to a discussion about ‘new media’ and whether traditional platforms like radio and cable are still relevant compared to the rapidly evolving podcast space. Toward the end of the episode, Rob reflects on the potential future of podcasting, suggesting that it might increasingly blend with general online content creation rather than be a standalone format. This leads to their final thoughts on the importance of maintaining an open platform for podcasting, contrasting it with more closed ecosystems like YouTube or proprietary streaming services, where creators have less control. This episode provides a comprehensive overview of the podcast industry’s current state and challenges, particularly focusing on the impact of technological changes, platform policies, and the shift toward more controlled content environments. The hosts emphasize the importance of maintaining the open, innovative spirit of podcasting amidst these developments.The post Podcasting is the Media #608 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the podcast, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various topics related to the podcasting industry. 1. **Podcast Hall of Fame Updates:** – Rob Greenlee talks about his recent work with the Podcast Hall of Fame, including updating the website and setting up a new board of governors to make the organization more inclusive. He mentions plans to have a more formalized nomination and voting process, aiming to expand recognition globally, although he acknowledges the challenges due to the shorter history of podcasting in international markets. 2. **Media Industry Observations:** – The hosts discuss recent changes in the media, explicitly mentioning layoffs at iHeart and the overall shrinking job market in traditional media sectors like radio. They speculate these changes might be preemptive measures by companies bracing for an economic downturn. 3. **Spotify’s Video Podcast Offerings:** -Discussion surfaces about Spotify’s push into video podcasting, including its strategy to offer ad-free video podcast viewing for premium subscribers in several countries and how it plans to compensate hosts based on viewership milestones. 4. **Buying Podcast Ads:** Quoting Rocky Thomas from SoundStack at the ASI Radio and Audio Conference, the challenges of buying podcast ads are addressed. It was noted that although there are numerous advertising options in podcasting, the process remains cumbersome, which could be streamlined by aligning podcast ad buying terminologies more closely with those used in radio advertising. 5. **Live Audience Interaction:** Throughout the podcast, Todd and Rob take comments from a live-streaming audience, answering questions and acknowledging listeners tuning into the broadcast. 6. **Future Planning:** They discuss plans for the Podcast Hall of Fame, suggesting possibilities like hosting multiple induction ceremonies yearly to handle backlogs and increase recognition frequency. Todd also suggested a new podcast series featuring interviews with Hall of Fame inductees. Throughout the episode, Todd and Rob blend their in-depth discussion of technical and industry topics with listener interactions and personal anecdotes from their extensive experience in podcasting, creating an informative yet conversational atmosphere.The post Podcast Hall of Fame – Industry Layoffs – Podcast Ad Buying #607 first appeared on New Media Show.

In the podcast episode titled “Legacy media is dead – Long live Podcasting!” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various issues concerning the state of media, particularly focusing on the rise of podcasting and its impact on traditional media, politics, and advertising. The episode begins with Todd experiencing technical issues with his RODECaster Duo, which keeps disconnecting from his MacBook. This leads to a discussion on potential compatibility issues after a recent Mac update and the advantages of hardwired connections over wireless setups. Rob shifts the conversation towards the influence of podcasting on the presidential election, suggesting that independent media, including podcasts, has become a significant source of information. He believes that podcasts offer detailed information and are less likely to spread falsehoods compared to traditional media. The hosts debate the role of podcasting in shaping public opinion, particularly during elections, and discuss the shift from celebrity endorsements to influencers like Joe Rogan who seem to resonate more with today’s voters. There is a specific focus on how podcasting contrasts with legacy media. Todd reads a listener’s comment about how new media influencers potentially swayed voter behavior in favor of specific candidates. This leads to a broader discussion on the trustworthiness of media sources and the evolving landscape of media consumption where podcasts and online platforms are becoming more influential. Throughout the episode, they express concerns about the potential misuse of editing within podcasts to misrepresent discussions—a practice they disdain and believe should be transparent to listeners. Both hosts reflect on the dynamics of media credibility and audience trust, analyzing how political biases and misinformation could tarnish media reliability. Todd and Rob also talk about Spotify’s role in podcast distribution and advertising, touching upon issues with feed caching and their impact on content updates. They delve into technical aspects like the use of Brotli compression and its compatibility with Spotify’s systems, suggesting potential business motives behind technical decisions that affect podcast hosting and distribution. Towards the end of the episode, the discussion pivots back to the impact of digital media on traditional broadcasting, with Rob suggesting that mainstream media must adapt or face diminishing relevance. They conclude by reaffirming their commitment to providing truthful, unedited content in their podcasts, promoting transparency and listener trust as foundational values. Technical issues arise once again as Todd’s equipment loses connection, but despite these disruptions, the episode covers a range of topics linked to the overarching theme of shifting power dynamics in media due to the rise of podcasting and digital platforms.The post Legacy media is dead – Long live Podcasting! #606 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee delve into a multi-part discussion on issues impacting podcasting and the broader media landscape. The episode is informative and covers three main topics: 1. Download Fraud in Podcasting: The hosts discuss an issue with a Spanish newspaper that made the top podcast list by auto-downloads, which inflated their numbers significantly. This practice violates the IAB podcast measurement guidelines. Todd shares an experience from Blubrry, where a similar issue occurred due to a code error in their web player, underscoring the challenges and the necessity for adherence to ethical standards in podcast statistics. Todd and Rob discuss the mechanisms and the technology behind these fraudulent activities and emphasize the importance of maintaining trust and transparency in podcast statistics. 2. Joe Rogan’s Interview with Former President Trump: The conversation shifts to a recent significant event in podcasting—Joe Rogan’s interview with former President Donald Trump. This segment is notable for its potential implications for the media industry and politics. The hosts reflect on how traditional media no longer monopolizes large-scale interviews due to the advent of new media platforms like podcasts. They compare the extent of the audience reach and the massive viewership numbers that online platforms achieve compared to traditional media channels. 3. Decline of Traditional Media: Todd and Rob discuss the decline of trust in traditional media, speculating that biased media coverage and the lack of exhaustive, unedited content contribute to this trend. They explore how podcasts are filling this gap by providing long-form, unedited content that allows for a more nuanced understanding of interview subjects, such as political figures. Throughout the episode, the hosts share their insights on the evolving media landscape, the vital role of ethical standards in podcasting, and the potential future where podcasts may increasingly serve as a primary source of detailed, trusted information. They also touch upon the broader implications of these changes for democracy and public engagement.The post Download Fraud – Decline of Old Media – Joe Rogan and Former President Trump #605 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the “New Media Show, with guest Matt Cundill,” host Rob Greenlee starts the session by introducing Matt Cundill, a seasoned podcaster and voice from the radio industry. The episode begins with Greenlee explaining that Todd Cochrane is unavailable, and Cundill has joined him to discuss various pertinent topics within the realm of podcasting and media. The conversation starts with discussing the implications of former President Donald Trump’s scheduled appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast. It delves into the broader impact of politicians participating in podcasts and how this reflects on the medium’s growing influence. Cundill offers his perspective on podcasts becoming a significant platform for political engagement, highlighting how podcasts can reach key demographics that traditional media may not. The hosts then discuss the successful live-streaming event Heroes For Democracy, co-produced by Rob Greenlee. This event leveraged platforms like StreamYard to engage a substantial audience. This segues into a broader discussion about the opportunities and challenges in the podcasting landscape, including the growth of local podcasts and the role of local radio stations. Matt Cundill shares insights from Tom Webster’s study from Sounds Profitable, focusing on audio vs. video consumption preferences among podcast listeners. They explore the significance of a video strategy for podcasters, considering YouTube’s critical role in content discovery and audience engagement. Tech Spotlight shifts to Google Labs’ NotebookLM, an AI-powered tool designed to assist podcasters with episode planning, scriptwriting, and content generation despite lacking audio or video cloning capabilities. The conversation also covers the Canadian Podcast Awards, highlighting their significance and accessibility to participants. Throughout the episode, Greenlee and Cundill continue to explore the evolving dynamics of podcasting, including the integration of technologies and the strategic importance of video content. They conclude with reflections on the current and future states of media consumption, audience engagement strategies, and the overarching impact of podcasting in the digital age. Listen & Subscribe: Website: www.NewMediaShow.com Watch Live: YouTube: YouTube.com/RobGreenlee X/Twitter Live: X.com/NMSPodcast Connect with Us: Rob Greenlee: X/Twitter: @RobGreenlee Website: www.RobGreenlee.com Instagram: @RobWGreenlee Matt Cundill: Twitter: @MattCundill Website: www.SoundOffPodcast.com Instagram: @SoundOffPodcast New Media Show: X/Twitter: https://x.com/NMSPodcast Facebook: facebook.com/NewMediaShow Canadian Podcast Awards: Website: www.CanPodAwards.ca Twitter: @CanPodAwards Instagram: @CanPodAwardsThe post Trump on Rogan and Podcast Insights with guest Matt Cundill #604 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this podcast episode, titled “The Future of Podcast Monetization: Beyond Traditional Ads,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee engage in a detailed conversation about several pertinent topics related to the evolving landscape of podcasting. The episode unfolds with Rob joining remotely from New York where he attended both the NAB Show and Advertising Week. The discussion kicks off with Rob sharing his observations from the events, noting a noticeable shift in exhibitor and attendee numbers at the NAB event compared to previous years. He points out that the radio industry’s representation at these events has grown, signifying a blending of traditional broadcasting with newer podcasting trends. Part of the episode celebrates Todd Cochrane’s twentieth anniversary in podcasting, noting milestones and changes throughout his podcasting career. Both hosts share nostalgic moments and reflect on the growth of podcasting as a medium, including its adoption by radio as a legitimate platform. The dialogue shifts to a deeper discussion on monetization strategies beyond traditional advertising, including the rise of influencer-focused marketing and the authenticity of sponsorships. Rob relates his experience at Advertising Week, highlighting the trend of brands seeking genuine, credible partnerships with content creators to foster trust and connection with the audience, mirroring early podcasting ethos of authentic host-read ads. As the conversation unfolds, Todd and Rob dive into the topic of community building around podcasts, noting the challenges and inefficacies of using platforms like Facebook and the advantages of independent community platforms. They explore how these platforms can enable more meaningful, direct interactions with audiences without the filtering effects of algorithm-driven social media. Furthermore, they debate the growing trend of video in podcasting, their experiences with integrating video content, and its impact on audience engagement and monetization. Rob provides insights on the orientation of industry events towards video and digital content strategies, observing a substantial push towards more dynamic content forms to meet evolving advertiser and viewer expectations. Towards the end of the episode, the hosts touch on the implications of AI in content creation, emphasizing the need for transparency and authenticity in AI-generated content to maintain trust and quality in podcasting. The episode wraps up with a lively discussion on personal experiences and broader changes in the podcasting industry, offering a robust analysis of the future of podcast monetization and content creation. Todd and Rob’s dialogue provides both a retrospective and a prospective view on the strategies that could shape the future of podcasting.The post The Future of Podcast Monetization: Beyond Traditional Ads #602 first appeared on New Media Show.

Hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee are joined by guest Adam Curry. The session delves deeply into the current state, history, and future of podcasting. The episode starts with introductions and a quick exchange of pleasantries among Todd, Rob, and Adam. Todd and Rob tease some of the topics they plan to discuss, focusing on the past, present, and future of podcasting. Adam Curry shares insights from his extensive experience in the podcasting industry. He invokes discussions about pioneering podcasting platforms and the invention of pivotal technologies like RSS and podcast monetization through advertisements. He highlights how key developments, like the first advertisers on podcasts, helped shape the industry’s growth trajectory. Several topics are passionately discussed throughout the episode, including: – The technological evolution within podcasting is emphasized by tools that have democratized and streamlined the podcast production process. – The rise of podcast networks and their role in shaping the podcast landscape. – Experiences with large podcasting companies and the push towards platform independence. – Concerns about platform monopolies and supporting open RSS feeds and podcast index initiatives. -Adam’s “No Agenda” podcast explains their unique “value-for-value” model, in which listeners contribute directly in various forms. – Challenges and merits of producing live shows versus edited podcasts. – Opportunities in local, niche podcasting content and the overarching need for podcasts to foster community around geographical or topic-based interests. Throughout the episode, Adam, Todd, and Rob also reflect on hiccups the podcasting industry has faced or may confront in the future. They discuss potential improvements in content recommendation systems within podcast apps, aiming for a more tailored listener experience. The conversation also veers into broader discussions about AI’s impact on content creation, concerns around AI-generated content overtaking human creativity, and misrepresentations or biases it might introduce. In closing, Adam Curry emphasizes the importance of podcasters enabling modern podcasting tools to maintain control over their content amidst the evolving digital landscape. He calls for a continued push towards innovation, independence, and authenticity in podcasting. The podcast episode provides deep insights into the technical, cultural, and business dynamics of podcasting, underpinned by Adam’s rich history and pioneering work in the field.The post Whats Next in Podcasting with Adam Curry #601 first appeared on New Media Show.

Welcome to Episode 600 – In this podcast episode, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee delve into the intricacies and motivations behind the push towards video podcasting, shedding light on various factors, especially the influence of ad revenue. The episode opens with casual banter before Todd shares intriguing details from a recent undisclosed meeting concerning privacy solutions for podcast listeners. This topic pivots to broader privacy concerns in the industry. Rob agrees, noting the advertising sector’s keen interest in privacy or the lack thereof. This segues into their main discussion about the industry’s relentless pursuit of profit, mainly through video podcasting. Todd and Rob discuss James Cridland’s critique of the monetary motivations driving platforms like Google and Spotify towards video podcasting. They elaborate on the expected increase in global ad revenue from Spotify’s shift to video podcasts and the purported effectiveness of combining audio and video ads versus audio alone. The hosts then explore a significant company restructuring within the podcast hosting sphere, maintaining discretion on specifics. Concurrently, they mention changes within the Podcast Hall of Fame, aiming for more openness and community involvement. Additionally, the episode covers some technical and policy shifts in podcasting, including various platforms’ compliance with the latest IAB Podcast Measurement Guidelines. The discussion digs deeper into how platforms might exploit creator content without fair compensation, sparking a broader examination of the relationships between podcasters, platforms, and advertisers. A critical take on the podcasting industry’s direction contrasts the original ethos of podcasting with current trends dominated by commercial interests. Towards the episode’s conclusion, the hosts highlight the looming influence of large corporations in determining the trajectory of podcast content and distribution. Overall, this episode heavily critiques the commercialization of podcasting, particularly the push for video podcasting driven by advertising revenue, while advocating for greater privacy and fairness for creators within the podcasting ecosystem.The post Unveiling the Push for Video Podcasting #600 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the podcast, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various aspects of podcasting, technology, and media content creation. The episode begins with a casual conversation about the updates and adjustments in their set-ups, including technology upgrades by Todd, such as a new Apple Studio and microphone stand. Rob responds to these updates, considering the implications for their show quality and viewer experience. The hosts then shift to the core topic, “The Ugly Baby Discussion in Podcasting,” which metaphorically describes issues within the podcasting industry, particularly how content creators perceive their work versus external perceptions. Todd sets the stage by listing numerous factors that could impact podcast success, including content relevance, marketing strategies, audience engagement, distribution methods, and technical issues. He emphasizes having realistic objectives for podcast growth and maintaining quality content. Rob introduces the concept of podcasters’ overestimation of their content quality, inspired by the analogy of “the ugly baby.” They explore the difficulty of having honest conversations with podcasters about their show’s quality or lack thereof. This segues into a broader discussion on the complexities of podcast production, exemplified by successful, multi-person productions compared to typical individual or smaller team productions. The conversation then delves deeper into the practical and technical adaptive strategies successful podcasters can employ. Todd reminisces about advice from his grandmother, which equates appreciating one’s content with being ready to improve where necessary. Rob adds to this by discussing the importance of perspective in gauging podcast success and how podcasters need to assess their audience size and engagement realistically. Rob and Todd also discuss the challenges and implications of relying primarily on more giant platforms like Spotify and Apple for podcast distribution and visibility. They debate the merits and downsides of exclusivity vs. broad distribution, with Todd advocating for a diversified approach to avoid dependence on single platforms. The hosts then discuss broader industry tactics, including adapting to listeners’ feedback, understanding the competitive landscape, and handling transitions in technology and listener behavior. They stress the need for agility in content creation and marketing. Towards the end, they consider adapting content and strategy as the digital landscape evolves, ensuring relevance and engagement are maintained. The episode closes with a broader reflection on the state of the podcast industry, the roles of major platforms, and a call for podcast creators to critically assess and adapt their strategies for sustained success. Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain a light-hearted yet informative tone, interspersed with personal anecdotes and professional insights, making for an engaging discussion on the complexities and evolving nature of podcasting.The post The Ugly Baby Discussion in Podcasting #599 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the podcast, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee thoroughly examine and discuss the recent Podcast Movement event in Washington, DC. They share their perspectives on how the event has transformed over time, suggesting it felt different from past events—likening it more to an industry-focused event rather than one focused on podcast creators. Todd starts the conversation by discussing his experience as an exhibitor, noting a significant drop in engaging with new podcast creators, which seemed poorly represented at the event. This underrepresentation led him to speculate on possible reasons, such as scheduling during weekdays and the high costs associated with attending. Furthermore, Todd points out the logistical issues of the event, such as overly wide aisles that hindered interaction between exhibitors and attendees and the lack of carpeting, which made the venue uncomfortable for standing. Rob contrasts previous Podcast Movements by sharing his observations on the placement of presentation stages directly on the exhibition floor, although beneficial for hearing presentations. He reflects on the broader implications of these changes on the podcast industry, suggesting that podcasting is undergoing a phase of professionalization and a shift away from independent creation due to economic pressures and a changing landscape prioritizing larger shows and networks. Both hosts expressed concerns over the evolution of podcast events, which are leaning towards being more corporate. They emphasized exclusive company areas restricted to select attendees, which contradicts the inclusive and community-focused ethos traditionally associated with podcasting. Towards the end of the episode, Todd and Rob shift the conversation towards possible solutions and broader industry trends. They discuss the need for a “Got Milk?”-style promotional campaign for podcasting to emphasize the value of audio content in an increasingly video-dominated market. Todd suggests that there needs to be a collective effort from successful figures in the podcasting community to advocate for the medium. The episode wraps up with the hosts reflecting on the ramifications of the event trends they’ve discussed, pondering the future of the Podcast Movement and similar conventions, and advocating for a return to more creator-focused, accessible, and community-centric values in podcast events.The post Does Podcasting Need its own “Got Milk” Campaign #598 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of “Todd and Rob is Back in the Afternoon,” Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee embark on a wide-ranging discussion starting with Todd’s newly rebuilt studio. Todd details his extensive weekend efforts in wiring and cleaning up his new studio space, which visually appears like the old studio despite the new location. Rob empathizes with Todd, sharing his experiences with surplus cables and studio equipment. The conversation then turns technical as Todd explains his complex internet setup, utilizing Starlink and a point-to-point connection due to his rural location’s limitations concerning broadband access. Much of the discussion underscores the challenges and high costs associated with improving rural broadband connectivity, highlighting Todd’s interactions with service providers and the government’s role in funding rural broadband. Attention then shifts to a critical discussion of recent developments with Patreon and Apple’s App Store fees, analyzing the impact on creators and potential workarounds. Alongside this, they critique the broader media industry’s drive towards direct uploads and data analytics in podcasting, expressing concerns about possible negative impacts on the open nature of podcasting. Todd and Rob also delve into podcasting standards, like RSS, fearing that a move away could diminish podcasters’ control over distribution. They stress the importance of maintaining podcasting as an independent and open platform that is resistant to dominance by large proprietary platforms. Furthermore, the duo discusses the implications of the Global Alliance for Responsible Media (GARM) dissolution, the underlying platform NewsGuard, and its impact on podcast content filtering. Their conversation reveals skepticism towards these platforms’ intentions and benefits, urging podcasters to be vigilant about where and how their content is managed. Closing the episode, Todd and Rob cover various other significant industry topics, including platform-specific issues, user experiences across podcast services, and emerging tools purportedly evaluating podcast audio quality. This episode thoroughly examines podcasting logistics, the balance between innovation and maintaining traditional standards, and the ongoing debate over content management and platform control in the increasingly complex podcast industry landscape.The post The New Studio is Complete and we are Live #597 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the podcast, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss a range of topics with guest Chris Krimitsos, focusing mainly on the growth and expansion of Podfest both domestically and internationally. They open by catching up on personal updates, including Todd’s move back to Michigan and setting up his new studio. Chris Krimitsos joins the conversation to discuss recent developments at Podfest, including the introduction of new managing directors to help expand the event. He highlights the introduction of international versions of Podfest, such as in Bogota, Colombia, and reflects on the inaugural Podfest Asia in Manila. Chris elaborates on how these expansions help build a global podcasting community and foster worldwide networking and collaboration among creators. The discussion shifts to logistical challenges, including an incident where the venue hotel closed down unexpectedly, leading to a hasty relocation. This segment opens up a broader conversation about organizing large-scale events’ unpredictability and dynamic nature. Continuing, Chris shares insights into how adding new managerial roles at Podfest has alleviated some of his workload, allowing him to focus more on community building and strategic partnerships. He talks about the benefits of having additional hands on deck for handling operational tasks and expanding the reach and influence of Podfest through various international ventures. Towards the end of their conversation, they touch on other topics, such as changes in other businesses related to podcasting, like traditional radio broadcasting, the evolution of podcast content globally, and the cultural specifics of podcasting in different countries. Chris, Todd, and Rob also discuss the importance of sustenance and growth in the podcasting industry, the challenges posed by external business pressures, and the roles of different companies in the evolving podcast market. The episode wraps up by looking forward to Podfest events and expressing enthusiasm for continued engagement and innovation in the podcasting community, both in the U.S. and abroad.The post Chris Krimitsos on Growth of Podfest Domestic and International #596 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee engage in a detailed discussion with Dan Franks, co-founder of Podcast Movement. Dan is the featured guest, discussing the upcoming Podcast Movement event in Washington, D.C. The episode begins with what’s new for Podcast Movement, Dan, who delves into the preparations and expectations for the nearing Podcast Movement event, emphasizing the event’s logistical and content planning stages. Dan highlights the gathering’s evolution, noting the diverse set of attendees and tailored content that caters to varying interests within the podcast community. He mentions crucial logistical adjustments and promotional strategies to enhance the attendee experience. A significant portion of their conversation explores how the event’s location in Washington, D.C., influences the types of attendees and what they might expect regarding keynote speakers and sessions, especially the ones involving NPR. Dan also details an uptick in governmental attendees. The talk transitions into broader discussion topics within the podcast industry, including the impact of AI technologies on podcast production and ethical considerations surrounding AI-generated content. The hosts explore potential implications of AI integration, from content creation to legal challenges regarding copyright issues and disclosure. Toward the end of the episode, discussions briefly cover Podcast Movement’s role in facilitating educational opportunities through its event programming and ‘Braindates,’ sessions designed for focused peer learning among attendees. Dan concludes with remarks on Podcast Movement’s continuous growth, its role in the podcasting ecosystem, and the event’s future. Finally, Todd and Rob summarize the discussion, reflecting on Dan Franks’ comprehensive insights about the upcoming Podcast Movement and its significance to the podcast community at large.The post Countdown to Podcast Movement: Insights from Dan Franks #594 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this podcast episode, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various topics related to the future of podcasting and the use of new technologies in the field. The episode begins with casual banter about their current setups and upcoming changes in their recording schedules. They also delve into their anticipation for the forthcoming Podcast Movement event, noting that they have scheduled an interview with Dan Franks to discuss further details. The discussion transitions into updates about the podcasting app Overcast. Todd and Rob commend the app’s developer, Marco Arment, for his updates on the app’s tenth anniversary, highlighting the improved user interface and accessibility. They express their admiration for Marco sustaining the app as a solo operation over the years. Rob and Todd also touch upon the value4value model and podcasting 2.0 features, discussing podcasters’ challenges and future potentials, especially concerning monetary contributions and audience engagement through technology like cryptocurrency. They ponder the implications of recent disruptions in crypto services and emphasize the importance of ensuring all participants in the podcast value chain benefit. The conversation shifts to the podcasting industry’s broader trends and possible future trajectories. They discuss artificial intelligence’s role in content creation and analytics, which could significantly impact how podcasts are produced and consumed. Moreover, they delve into concerns about AI, such as ethical considerations and the importance of transparency in content creation influenced by AI. Todd and Rob also review the implications of certain podcasting practices and technologies on user privacy and content authenticity. They highlight the importance of maintaining open communication channels free from excessive regulation and underscore the value of straightforward, honest podcasting practices. The episode wraps up with further insights into upcoming changes in their podcast schedules and a reaffirmation of their commitment to discussing vital topics within the podcasting community. Throughout the episode, Todd and Rob blend industry-specific analysis with lighter, more personable commentary, offering depth and accessibility to their listener discussions.The post What’s Next for Podcasts? A Deep Dive! #593 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the podcast, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss a variety of topics centered around the podcast industry, mainly focusing on the desired shift from downloaded content to streaming and the battle for control, the implications of this change for podcasters, and broader issues regarding podcast monetization and the relationship between advertisers and podcasters. The conversation starts with Todd and Rob reflecting on common themes in podcasting news and revisiting the debate over streaming versus downloading in podcast distribution. They highlight the pros and cons of each method, discussing how downloads have traditionally benefited listeners who face bandwidth issues. Todd shares an anecdote about his experiences with limited data access while traveling, reinforcing the value of downloaded content in certain situations. The discourse transitions to a more detailed exploration of podcast advertising and monetization strategies. Todd introduces a new advertising model he recently learned about. It could allow podcasters more control over their advertising deals and increase their revenue, offering an alternative to traditional advertising networks that take significant cuts from ad revenue. Rob then shifts the conversation towards podcasters maintaining control over their content and monetization, aligning their efforts more directly with the interests of their listeners rather than advertisers. They discuss how the current marketplace dynamics often favor advertisers at the expense of content creators and how new models and technologies could potentially shift this balance. Furthermore, Rob and Todd delve into the broader impacts of podcast industry trends, such as the decline of Apple Podcasts’ market share and the respective rise of other platforms. They speculate on future industry directions, discussing how shifts in platform dominance could affect podcast producers and their strategic choices. The conversation concludes with practical advice from Todd and Rob based on their extensive experience in the field. They discuss potential business models, the importance of valuing creator control, and strategies for podcasters to align closely with their audience’s interests. In summary, this episode covers a comprehensive range of topics relevant to current trends and issues in the podcast industry, providing deep insights into the impact of technology changes, advertising models, and platform dynamics on podcast creators. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post The Battle for Control: Advertisers vs. Podcasters #591 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the podcast hosted by Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee, the focus was primarily on Spotify’s recent implementation of video on their platform and the ramifications for podcast RSS feeds. The episode begins with a scheduling update, then delves into the main topic regarding Spotify’s new capability to replace audio files from RSS feeds with a video file for podcasts on their platform, sparking industry controversy. Rob initiated the discussion, pointing out that Spotify’s change is similar to what YouTube has been doing with audio files, though Spotify’s impact on podcast distribution and monetization could be significantly different. Rob described Spotify’s history of not fully trusting the bandwidth and performance of smaller hosting services. This led to them caching and serving episodes independently to ensure performance quality, bypassing the hosted podcast’s direct feed. This historic move, he notes, sets a precedent for the current video implementation. Todd emphasized the serious implications for podcasters, describing Spotify’s actions as detrimental and referring to them as an “abomination.” He stressed that this change could disrupt podcast analytics and monetization, primarily because the changes could prevent podcast hosts from reporting accurate download and engagement data if Spotify serves the video files instead. Todd also proposes that this could fundamentally alter how ads are served and monetized, especially concerning dynamically inserted ads. Both hosts then discussed the broader implications of this move by Spotify, touching on how it could drive a wider adoption of video podcasts even though there’s apparent hesitance among some podcast creators about moving into video. They also explore the larger industry perspective, questioning whether the industry’s response to video content is adequate and if more could be done to integrate video into podcasting without losing the essence of what podcasts traditionally offer. Throughout the episode, Todd and Rob revisit the core issue of how Spotify’s changes challenge the open nature of podcasting via RSS feeds and express concerns about the future of podcast hosting and distribution if such platforms continue to make unilateral decisions that could potentially harm the openness and accessibility of podcasts. The episode concluded with both agreeing on the potential need for podcasters to educate themselves about these developments and consider carefully how they host and distribute their content in light of these changing dynamics in the podcast industry. They implore podcast creators to weigh the benefits of platforms like Spotify against the potential loss of control over their content and audience connection. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Spotify’s Impact on RSS and What Podcasters Should Know #590 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode titled “From Studio Eviction to Industry Speculation: A Podcasting Journey,” Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss their personal experiences and broader developments in the podcasting industry. The episode starts with Cochrane recounting his recent studio eviction, describing the frantic move he was forced to organize over a holiday weekend. He details the sudden termination of his lease and the logistics of relocating his studio’s equipment into storage and a makeshift setup in his loft. He contemplates potential challenges, like acoustics and bandwidth, that he might face while setting up a new studio in his loft. Next, the conversation shifts to Greenlee touching on recent trends and rumors swirling within the podcasting space. The hosts speculate about potential acquisitions in the podcast-hosting arena, mentioning companies like Libsyn, ACast, and Buzzsprout. They also discuss the global footprint of various podcasting platforms and the strategic business maneuvers these entities might prepare for. Cochrane and Greenlee continue to explore the technical side of podcasting, expressing concerns over the underdevelopment of certain features in popular platforms and the efficacy of upcoming AI integration in video and audio modifications. They deliberate on the ethics and disclosure necessary when AI alters content, comparing it to traditional editing techniques. Towards the latter part of the episode, the discussion veers into the implications of podcast metrics and listener behaviors, especially concerning ad load and audience retention. Both hosts emphasize the need for transparency and accurate reporting in podcast analytics to maintain trust and deliver value to creators and advertisers. The episode wraps up with a look at the evolving nature of podcast consumption, noting a trend toward communal listening experiences, such as families listening together at home or during car rides. The hosts reflect on how these shifting patterns might impact future content creation and audience engagement strategies. Throughout the episode, Cochrane and Greenlee share their personal anecdotes and professional insights, providing a comprehensive overview of current challenges and opportunities within the podcasting industry, underscored by Cochrane’s immediate challenge of rebuilding his studio and adapting to new realities. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post From Studio Eviction to Industry Speculation #589 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the New Media Show, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee delve deep into various facets of the podcasting world. Their discussion started with Todd sharing his travel experiences to and from the Philippines, where he attended Podfest Asia. Discussing the state of podcasting in Asia, starting with Spotify’s significant influence in the region. Todd highlighted the disparity between Spotify’s support for podcasters in Asia and Apple, noting that Apple has lost considerable market presence due to its limited engagement and support. The conversation also covered the financial aspects of podcasting, particularly around local sponsorship and global advertising revenues in the Philippines. Todd shared insights from his interactions at Podfest, discussing the scarcity of local sponsors and the reliance on global advertisers who target top-tier shows via well-known hosting providers. This led to a broader discussion of potential growth and development within the Asian podcasting market, including creating content networks and using podcast editing services in the Philippines. Todd and Rob also discussed the various challenges faced in these markets, such as the dominant preference for Android over Apple, which affords Spotify an edge due to its accessibility on Android devices. They dove into the specifics of mobile data usage in the region, discussing the economic and accessibility factors that favor Spotify over other platforms like Apple, which hasn’t yet offered a native podcasting app on Android. They discussed the report of 1.9 billion in ad sales and the challenges coming in discovery. See everyone in three weeks as we are both traveling.The post Podfest Asia Recap #589 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the podcast featuring hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee, they delve into a comprehensive discussion on podcasting, focusing on the viability and reality of video podcasting. The episode begins with Todd updating listeners on his business-related travel plans, which include attending Podfest Asia. Rob and Todd then shift the conversation to the state of podcasting events. They discuss the expected attendance at various podcasting events, including an Asian conference and the larger Podcast Show in London. They provide insights into the logistical challenges and benefits of these events, including the impact of ticket sales strategies on attendee counts. Much of the discussion centers around the role and influence of video in podcasting. The hosts delve into the misconceptions and hype surrounding video podcasting, emphasizing the challenges and realities versus the expectations set by platforms like YouTube and Spotify. Todd shares his concerns about the lack of support for open RSS in video distribution on significant platforms and stresses the need for a broader video strategy beyond just YouTube. The conversation also covers the practical aspects of managing a podcast, such as the importance of proper session titles and handling logistics at podcasting events. Todd explains his approach to giving talks at these events, which include providing realistic expectations and debunking myths about video podcasting. Both hosts engage in a detailed analysis of the industry’s evolution, particularly regarding sponsorships, the integration of video content, and the potential future of podcasting as it integrates more fully with digital media strategies. The episode is rich with insights into the technical, logistical, and strategic aspects of podcasting, offering listeners an in-depth look at what it takes to run a podcast in the current media landscape. The hosts’ expertise provides a valuable resource for anyone interested in the inner workings and future potential of podcasting, particularly in relation to video content. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Video Podcasting: Hype vs. Reality #588 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the New Media Show, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee dive deep into the significant news of Spotify, Megaphone, Chartabe, and Podbean pulling out from the IAB podcast measurement compliance. They discuss the various implications and reasons for these decisions, what they mean for the podcasting industry, particularly in advertising standards, and the broader consequences for podcast creators. The episode begins with Todd discussing feeling overwhelmed with work demands, contemplating hiring an assistant, and the difficulty of finding someone who can handle the specialized tasks related to podcasting. The conversation then shifts to the main topic: the departure of Spotify and Podbean from IAB certification compliance. They first examine the impact on Spotify, with Todd acknowledging Spotify’s significant internal metrics due to its app-based system allowing detailed listener tracking. Despite Spotify’s data advantages, Todd discusses the necessity and cost of IAB compliance, especially with changes to membership tier pricing affecting the company’s expenses. Rob weighs in on the issue, surfacing concerns about the potential adverse effects that the removal of certification might bring about over time. However, he also notes that Spotify’s financial situation possibly contributed to their decision. The hosts delve into the nuances of IAB certification costs, compliance, and how these factors influence their decisions as service providers, drawing on personal experience and insights from the industry. Todd shares news about Blubrry’s partnership with BackBeat Media for host-read advertising, emphasizing the importance of maintaining IAB certification to fulfill this partnership’s reporting and trust requirements for advertisers. Rob plans to invite a CEO from the brand safety industry on the show to discuss these issues further, something they’re wary of due to its potential implications on content censorship. They reflect on in-person studio trends and the movement towards more video content creation, balancing skepticism with acknowledgment of the potential personalization and authenticity such setups might offer specific high-profile creators. As the episode progresses, they discuss the strategic importance of not putting all content into one platform’s basket, citing several instances where reliance on a single platform like Google or YouTube has proven risky for content creators. Rob updates the upcoming New Media Show schedule, noting that he will be out of town for specific dates, and Todd shares his travel plans to the Philippines and the UK, making it necessary to shuffle their broadcast schedule. The episode concludes with the hosts touching upon platforms such as TikTok’s tenuous status amidst government regulations, the importance of free speech, and the preservation of open RSS as a channel for independent creators to share their content without restrictions. Listeners are encouraged to engage with the show via email, and Todd hints at developing a new mailing list for the show. They thank their audience and close with a reminder to follow or subscribe to the New Media Show on favored podcast apps, highlighting newer platforms featured at podcastapps.com. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post The Impact of Spotify and Podbean’s IAB Departure #587 first appeared on New Media Show.

This episode of the New Media Show, hosted by Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee, delves into various aspects of new media, particularly the integration and impact of video with traditional podcasting audio media. The conversation opens with Todd Cochrane welcoming listeners to the show and introducing his co-host, Rob Greenlee. They further discussed their involvement in recent media industry events, with Rob Greenlee recounting his experience at the Las Vegas National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) event. He mentions various aspects, like the Creators Lab and facilitating discussions about editing trends and AI integration in media production. Todd Cochrane shifts the discussion towards technology advancements presented at NAB, prompting Rob to illustrate the shift towards genuine content production in video media, as content creator Mr. Beast suggested. They comment on changes in production styles and audience engagement strategies. Later, Todd expresses his skepticism regarding podcasters transitioning to video, emphasizing the challenge of achieving success in this medium compared to audio podcasting. However, Rob suggests that the current trend demands a video-first strategy and that not embracing it might be risking growth opportunities. Nonetheless, they agree on the importance of being strategic about including video. The hosts then touch upon the business aspects of content creation, with Todd sharing a conversation with a podcast producer concerned about the high costs of producing a branded podcast. This leads to a broader discussion about the economics of podcasting, brand deals, and platforms imposing restrictive conditions on content, and eventually transitions to talk about the importance of open RSS feeds and protecting free speech in podcasting. Rob later introduces a new topic detailing the growth of platforms offering premium memberships for content creators, using ‘UScreen’ as an example. Todd is critical of the service’s pricing model and the cost implications for creators who monetize their content. Wrapping up, Todd and Rob delve into the controversial topic of brand safety and suitability in the media and the potential negative implications such measures could entail for content creators. They debate issues like self-censorship, freedom of expression, and the impact of algorithmic content moderation. They briefly explore the differences between the agency and platform levels of content control and foreshadow an in-depth future discussion on this subject matter with industry experts on brand safety. The show concludes after a two-hour conversation, encompassing many themes around the new media landscape, video and audio content convergence, the future of content monetization, and the enduring significance of protecting free and open platforms for podcast creators and consumers. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Exploring the Convergence of Video and Audio in New Media #586 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the New Media Show, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee dive deep into the challenges and realities faced by podcast content creators, particularly regarding YouTube’s algorithms and discoverability. The conversation spans from the practicalities of podcast production to the philosophical aspects of content creation and distribution. Todd begins the show with a warm welcome, and after some playful banter, the discussion shifts to the necessity for good podcast equipment, especially boom arms, as Rob’s recently broke. Todd vouches for the quality of Heil boom arms, recounting his favorable experience and offering Rob a spare if needed. They transition to talk about internet infrastructure, including router replacements and internet speed upgrades. Todd recounts his experience with a cable provider and how he negotiated a better deal for faster internet. Rob shares his observations on the friction between Podnews and Sounds Profitable, mainly sparked by a tweet from Tom Webster about his keynote at Podcast Movement Evolutions not being covered by Podnews. The hosts debate the role of YouTube in podcast content distribution. Todd is critical of YouTube, arguing that it mainly benefits a select few shows and fails to provide sufficient discoverability for most content creators. At the same time, Rob contends that success on YouTube is possible but requires considerable effort and is based on algorithmic promotion. They discuss the importance of engaging artwork for episode promotion. Rob shares his success using customized thumbnail art on YouTube, emphasizing that even minor details can enhance discoverability and audience growth. Todd questions the practicality of such efforts, pointing out the time constraints most podcasters face. Rob notes the importance of adapting content for multimedia consumption, considering how the audience increasingly watches videos on mobile devices. Todd maintains his stance, emphasizing that audio content remains his preference and doesn’t engage in video content to the same extent. Rob touches on the opportunities of video podcasting outside of YouTube, suggesting alternatives like Kajabi or community platforms might gain significance. They conclude with a discussion on the future of video podcast publishing and the importance of open RSS feeds. The episode ends with Rob mentioning his upcoming activities at the NAB Show as a panel moderator for the Creators Lab Conference and as a workshop presenter for StreamYard. Todd shares his contact information, encouraging listeners to get in touch via email or follow him on Mastodon. The title of this episode, “Reality Check: Podcast Content Creators vs YouTube,” aptly reflects the central theme of the episode, where both hosts confront the challenges podcasters face with content creation, promotion, and platform dependence, specifically dissecting the dynamics between podcast content creators and the YouTube ecosystem. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Reality Check: Podcast Content Creators vs YouTube #585 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the new media show, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss a range of topics related to the podcasting industry, including their experiences at Podcast Movement Evolutions, the Google Podcast shutdown, YouTube’s presence at Podcast Movement, and other industry news Todd discusses his observations at Podcast Movement, describing it as business-oriented and sharing his uncertainty about the value of having a booth at future events. They both agree that despite making some connections, they could have possibly done the same without a booth. Rob then shifts the conversation to ask why the event was moved to Chicago, to which Todd doesn’t have a definitive answer but comments on the booth pricing for future events, mentioning that it’s an early-bird special. They move onto the topic of YouTube’s presentation at Podcast Movement, with Todd expressing his disappointment. He criticizes YouTube for coming off as condescending and ignoring feedback from podcast creators. Despite their claims, Rob laments YouTube’s focus on video instead of genuinely embracing podcasting. The conversation proceeds to Google Podcasts, with Todd articulating his displeasure at Google’s decision to shut it down in the US. Todd and Rob speculate about the reasoning behind Google’s choices and discuss the implications for podcasters and listeners, particularly the loss of a native Android podcasting app. Todd voices his concerns about how the shutdown signals Google’s preference for monetization through YouTube. Todd mentions the decline of trustworthiness in Google and the changes in its strategy that undermine podcasters and the industry. Rob shares insight into Libsyn’s strategy regarding YouTube and the broader context of ad sales within the industry. Moving on, they critique the presentation by YouTube at Podcast Movement, calling it a missed opportunity to engage relevantly with podcast creators. They also note that YouTube failed to address the core podcasting community effectively. Todd continues the discussion, pointing out the general lack of traffic to booths on the final day of the podcast movement and reflecting on the potential waste of resources. Todd and Rob then discuss the broader challenges the podcasting industry faces, including the decline in new podcasts, layoffs, and the potential need to raise hosting prices due to inflation. The episode wraps up with Rob and Todd hoping for industry apps to gain users following the demise of Google Podcasts, emphasizing their commitment to supporting podcasters with new features and revenue opportunities. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Google’s Missteps and the Impact on Podcasters #584 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this podcast episode, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss the latest in podcasting news, innovations, and industry insights, featuring a discussion on Todd’s Vid2Pod service and an interview with Mike Kadin from RedCircle. The episode begins with the hosts, Todd and Rob, discussing an AI-generated music track, which leads to a conversation about AI and copyright. Todd Cochrane then talks about launching Vid2Pod and AI tools for podcasters. Rob then asks Todd about his newly announced product, Vid2Pod, which Todd explains in great detail. Vid2Pod is a feature that converts video content from YouTube into a podcast format. Todd goes through the process and features of this service, including how it automates video-to podcast conversion, channel integration, terms of service implications, and licensing considerations. Mike Kadin from RedCircle then joins the show to discuss their new product offering, OpenRap. Mike provides an overview of RedCircle’s emphasis on host-read advertising automation and explains how OpenRap extends its ad automation services to podcasts hosted on other platforms that are VAST compatible without RedCircle having to manage the hosting. They discuss dynamic ad insertion, VAST integration, and how RedCircle’s software aims to streamline the ad process for podcasters and advertisers. Todd questions the practicality and monetization aspects from both a hosting platform’s and a podcaster’s perspectives. Mike emphasizes RedCircle’s commitment to serving the oft-underserved mid-tier podcast content creators by streamlining the ad management and insertion process. The conversation shifts to the ongoing issues with podcast analytics and measurement, focusing on recent iOS changes impacting download numbers, podcasters’ need for clarity when picking measurement platforms, and the advertisers’ pursuit of additional tracking and attribution methods. Rob mentions a post by Lisa LaPorte, CEO of Twit TV, about challenges in the podcast advertising market, emphasizing the demand by podcast agencies for more complicated ad tech. Mike shares his perspective on the need for more transparent and dynamic pricing in the podcast advertising market and its implications on host-read ads. Finally, Rob concludes by asking Mike where listeners can find more information about RedCircle’s OpenRap, to which Mike suggests visiting RedCircle’s website. The episode closes with the hosts discussing their availability for the next episode due to Todd’s travel plans and concluding remarks. Todd and Rob shared their contact information so listeners would want to reach out to them. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Introducing Vid2Pod and RedCircle’s new Host Read Ad Offering #583 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode of the new media show, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss a range of topics related to podcasting, leveraging their extensive experience in the industry. They start by experimenting with streaming on a new platform, Rumble, and share their excitement about opening up new audiences. Todd teases an upcoming announcement about a new feature they’re beta testing without revealing too much detail. Rob cautiously probes for more information, and Todd hints that other companies may copy this feature once it’s revealed. The announcement is scheduled for release on Monday, and a live event will showcase it at Podcast Movement. They touch on the live streaming schedule at Podcast Movement, with Todd discussing plans to stream from the booth. They discuss the challenge of ensuring good audio quality during live streams and consider potential issues with internet connectivity at the event. Todd mentions working hard on Blueberry’s AI features, focusing on perfecting an automatic email promotion for podcast episodes. Rob talks about the potential positive impact of AI on the podcasting industry by saving time and money. Todd shares his experience using AI to create documentation efficiently and emphasizes the importance of quality assurance. They then talk about industry news: Joe Rogan is having full episodes back on YouTube, layoffs at Rooster Teeth, Spotify unions are reaching tentative agreements, and Libsyn is finally adding transcript support. Todd gleefully digs into Libsyn for being behind the curve with their recent update, which enables users to upload transcripts to their episodes when competitors already provide this service. Rob reads from a KSNR report that suggests podcasts are replacing traditional media, especially among certain age groups, and that future trends may include augmented reality and virtual reality. Both hosts reflect on the change in media consumption habits and predict a continuation of the trend toward interactive and immersive content. In response to a listener’s comments, they address radio’s decline due to a lack of local programming and how podcasting offers a personalized alternative. They also speculate on the future integration of AR/VR in podcasts and the importance of building community around podcast content. Before signing off, Todd shares the improvements he’s seen with transcriptions in podcast apps, like Apple’s accurate syncing despite pre-roll ads, which could be a sign of evolving podcast technology. They wrap up by teasing listeners with more details about the upcoming announcement and reminding them where they can find them and their work online. Todd and Rob emphasize the importance of innovation and staying ahead in podcasting technology before ending the show on a note of anticipation for their next big reveal. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post The Evolving Landscape of Podcast Consumption #582 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this podcast episode, co-hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various topics relevant to the podcasting industry. The episode begins with Todd and Rob addressing a copyright issue they encountered with using a song. They proceed to discuss the potential of artificial intelligence in creating music and its role in other aspects like writing documentation and aiding developers. The conversation moves on to the influence of AI on podcasting, including its ability to aid content creation and how podcasters should consider leveraging AI tools. Rob and Todd explore the idea that AI will not replace the need for programmers but will change their role in the development process. Attention is then given to “seasons” in podcasting, triggered by the news of the “Serial” podcast returning for a fourth season after a decade. They contemplate whether this shows a lack of new ideas in the industry or is a strategic move to tap into established brand value. The discussion continues with Rob mentioning StreamYard.com and the integration between podcasting and live video streams. They mention the crossover between audiences and the monetization of podcasts. Todd and Rob then address a listener support ticket regarding Apple Podcasts’ transcript settings. After investigating during the podcast, Todd clarifies that contrary to some listeners’ experiences, displaying podcast transcripts rather than Apple’s automatic ones does not require a payment of $19.95. Rob mentions a new Lavalier microphone launched by Shure, discussing how such technology could simplify the podcast production process and be enhanced with contemporary AI-based audio platforms. The discussion transitions back to podcasting platforms and the challenges podcasters face, including sluggish audience growth on YouTube despite investments in equipment and editing by podcast creators. The conversation turns to Rumble’s new feature that allows RSS feeds for live broadcasts. Todd shares initial research indicating that only live events on Rumble have an RSS feed and not regular video uploads. They consider the implications of Rumble RSS feeds for the podcast industry and explore the platform, noting its content diversity and growth opportunities for podcasters. Before concluding, Todd shares fascinating statistics regarding the global growth rates of podcasting outside the top ten countries, emphasizing the substantial increases in listener numbers in smaller countries. They conclude their exchange by touching on Malcolm Gladwell receiving an award despite recent layoffs at his company, hinting at potential biases in awards selections within the podcast industry. The episode ends with a brief look into the Edison Research study that examines listening habits across different geographical areas within the United States. The episode combines technical discussion, industry trends analysis, and the hosts’ insights on the evolving podcasting landscape. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Exploring Rumble’s New RSS Feed Capability #581 first appeared on New Media Show.

This episode of “The New Media Show,” hosted by Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee, delves into the shifting media consumption landscape from mainstream sources to podcasting. The conversation begins with the hosts discussing the technical aspects of live-streaming platforms and the intricacies of timing content delivery across various platforms. Todd Cochrane shares his recent experiences with artificial intelligence (AI), expressing how it has been heavily incorporated into testing and optimization for his podcasting efforts, particularly at Blubrry Podcasting. He mentions he has been dreaming about AI due to the intensity of his work. Rob Greenlee talks about the challenges of traveling in coach, the annoyance of reclining airplane seats, and his aspirations to switch to business class flying. They transition into discussing the relevance of AI in the podcasting industry, noting that major companies are starting to embrace AI technology. Todd discusses the strategic integration of AI within his company to streamline processes such as pre-production, post-production, and social media clipping, emphasizing the importance of staying within their competencies without overextending into areas like audio editing, better handled by specialized tools like Descript. Rob and Todd contemplate the role of AI startups as larger companies begin to adopt AI technologies, questioning the sustainability of these startups in the evolving market. They explore how podcast hosting companies implement AI and debate the challenges and benefits of having in-platform recording and editing tools. The conversation shifts to the partnership between Riverside and Spotify, with Todd giving insights into the competitive dynamics between podcast hosting services and recording platforms. They also touch on revenue trends, discussing an increase in the revenue per thousand downloads (RPM) reported by Spreaker and iHeart while also considering the broader implications of layoffs within the media industry and how they may affect content quality. Todd and Rob discuss the changing media landscape, referencing Pew Research data showing a decline in traditional news media audiences. They share their personal media consumption habits and the polarization of news. The discussion turns to how fewer people follow the news closely and how this may affect societal awareness. They talk about job opportunities and the importance of content creators potentially producing their content rather than relying on larger organizations. Todd shares stories of highly successful independent podcasters and the financial benefits they have experienced, highlighting the potential for content creators to thrive outside of traditional media companies. The conversation wraps up with Rob sharing the launch of his new podcast, “Podcast Tips,” hosted on Blubrry with WordPress integration. Todd offers on-the-spot technical support as they navigate through the new podcast setup and conclude with Todd talking about the new chapter marking feature in Blubrry’s audio player, which AI generates. Overall, the hosts discuss the effect of significant technology and industry changes on podcasting, from AI integration to job market fluctuations, focusing on how these factors shape the medium’s future. They close the episode by expressing excitement about returning to the usual podcasting setup the following week. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post The Shift from Mainstream Media to Podcasting #580 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode, Todd and Rob explore various topics related to the current situation and the future of podcasting. The episode starts with the hosts acknowledging the different livestream times. It then quickly moves into a discussion sparked by Rob’s recent event in New Jersey, where the interest in starting new podcasts was a hot topic. They discuss the motivations driving new podcasters and how the broader media landscape has changed. Yet, despite the evolution in production and distribution, they agree that the core principles of podcasting have remained the same. The conversation shifts to the challenge of growing a podcast audience in a crowded content space and the importance of building community through mission-driven content creation. Todd highlights the need for podcasters to have clear goals, suggesting the goal should drive the format and content of the show. They discuss the advantage of having a pre-existing community to build from, but Todd also stresses that podcasting starts hard and there’s no shortcut to success. Rob and Todd emphasize the need to create great content for the audience and interact with them authentically. The discussion transitions to the role of AI in podcasting, with Todd sharing insights on new tools that help with production and distribution. They address the trend where big media companies over-invest in production costs without a proportional return on investment, leading to canceled podcasts and restructuring. During the live chat, hosts respond to live comments from the audience, affirming their earlier points on content creation being hard work and the role of AI in leveling the playing field. Todd then demonstrates new features on their website players, such as chapter files and transcriptions added for better engagement and accessibility, though they encounter a glitch during the demonstration. They stress the importance of easily accessible engagement tools for podcast audiences and how new media apps promise better listener interaction compared to legacy podcast apps. Rob discusses the Independent Podcast Awards, their significance, and an ongoing issue in categorizing what makes a podcast truly ‘independent.’ The hosts touch upon podcasts being available on third-party messaging apps in regions like Saudi Arabia and North Africa, acknowledging that while it’s an exciting development, such platforms might not be optimal for podcast consumption. They also briefly discuss the challenges of integrating podcasting into familiar platforms like WhatsApp and Telegram. Throughout the show, Todd and Rob field comments from the live audience, reflecting on the live feedback’s energizing effect on their discussion – underscoring the very point the episode seeks to make about the deep connection between podcasters and their communities. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Unpacking the Modern Podcast Landscape #579 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this podcast episode, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee engage in a conversation revolving around several critical topics in the podcast industry. Starting, Todd addresses his return to show’s return. They transition into discussing the significance of Spotify’s open RSS feeds and the potential challenges with the platform’s RSS feed structure. Rob observes that Spotify has made 2,258 episodes available, which might be problematic for platforms like Apple Podcasts that may not display that many. Todd notes possible slow load times for such a lengthy feed. They then address technical aspects and speculate why Spotify chose its in-house podcasting solution for Joe Rogan’s podcast over using the enterprise platform Megaphone. Todd theorizes that Rogan’s video component is why Spotify for Podcasters was selected. There’s a conversation about Spotify cutting features like in-app recording and editing, with Todd suggesting it may reduce the platform’s appeal. The hosts discuss brand safety models and how keyword-based algorithms can lead complex news stories, such as The New York Times reporting on the Middle East conflict, to face demonetization. The podcast moves on to political advertising in podcasts, with Spotify looking for more inventory due to a predicted increase in political ad spending. Todd and Rob debate the appropriateness of different political ads appearing next to each other and touch upon the concept of a ‘parallel economy’ where brands align with similar ideological media. They acknowledge the importance of local elections and encourage people to become informed about local candidates. A brief discussion ensues about how monetization in podcasting is affected by brand safety and the acceptability of ads, especially for shows like Adam Corolla’s, which have always maintained a direct and uncensored nature. The conversation shifts to industry studies, including Edison Research’s findings that radio still accounts for more than three times the daily audio time compared to podcasts. Todd and Rob conclude this segment by reflecting on the increasing integration of podcasts into car audio systems and how this could continue to alter the media consumption landscape. Rob mentions the Podcast Hall of Fame presentation at the Podfest event, detailing the induction process and the significance of preserving the history and culture of podcasting. They discuss the need for more funding and sponsorships to support these initiatives while acknowledging that Doctor Drew was a fitting, albeit expensive, MC for such an event. Todd introduces the new website, podcasting2.org, which aims to make the podcast namespace features more accessible and understandable. They explore the site, examining the interlinked support across different podcasting apps and hosting providers. Lastly, Todd and Rob share how the Podcast Index aims to preserve podcasting as an open platform before wrapping up the show with Valentine’s Day greetings and plans for next week’s episode. Throughout the discussion, both hosts lend their expertise on each topic and provide insights into the broader podcasting ecosystem and its future direction. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Podcast Hall of Fame Insights #578 first appeared on New Media Show.

In this episode, host Rob Greenlee is joined by guest Mark Asquith. The duo discusses various forward-looking aspects of podcasting, notably the future of revenue generation beyond traditional advertising. The episode starts with Rob referencing co-host Todd Cochran’s absence and letting listeners know that Todd is out of the country and expected back for the next episode. Rob then introduces Mark Asquith, highlighting his role with Captivate and recent attempts to push the envelope in the podcasting industry. Mark and Rob discuss the significance of the Joe Rogan/Spotify deal and what that implies for podcast exclusivity, content distribution, and alignment with content creators’ interests. They delve into Spotify’s strategy shift and ponder its implications for the industry. Mark suggests that Spotify’s reevaluation of exclusivity deals indicates a broader trend toward open podcasting. They examine Spotify’s role as a first-party platform and how it impacts advertisers and audience data compared to platforms like Apple Podcasts. The conversation steers towards the evolving nature of the industry, and Rob brings up how podcasting was historically a substantial part of the video content landscape. They touch on the potential resurgence of video in podcasting, discussing the integration of video and different content forms and the potential generational shift in content creation and consumption habits. Rob and Mark explore the impact of technological advancements on podcasting, such as the potential role of AI and blockchain in enhancing the creator-listener relationship. They consider how innovations like the value-for-value model, which involves Satoshis and Bitcoin, could change the way podcasters monetize their content, emphasizing the need to make technology accessible and understandable. The episode concludes with Rob and Mark hypothesizing about the longevity and possible evolution of advertising as a revenue model in podcasting. Rob suggests that the injection of technology and new models like value for value could potentially phase out conventional advertising over time. Mark points to creators’ and consumers’ increasing demand for tangibility and benefits from podcast platforms. The episode wraps up with Mark teasing Rob about new content he is working on and inviting him to participate. It is mentioned that more news will be coming around Podcast Movement Evolutions in March. Mark encourages listeners to stay tuned for further announcements and developments in his content offerings. Listeners are directed to captivate.fm to follow Captivate and Mark’s work. They also discuss the convenience of their collaboration platforms and future plans for creating content that resonates with and benefits the podcasting community. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Future of Podcast Revenue: Beyond Advertising #577 first appeared on New Media Show.

Join Rob Greenlee and Tom Webster from Sounds Profitable in a riveting Live New Media Show episode as they delve into the evolving podcast landscape, where video podcast consumers merge with traditional audio enthusiasts. They discuss the undeniable trend: most top podcasts are accessible on YouTube, illustrating the seamless blend of audio and video formats. Despite skepticism, this “Convergence Strategy” proves potent, highlighting Rob’s journey with StreamYard and the broader implications for content creators. The episode also touches on Podfest, the Podcasting Hall of Fame, and insights from Dr. Drew on the industry’s future. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post New Audio + Video Consumption of Podcasts | Tom Webster #576 first appeared on New Media Show.

Rob and Todd discuss in detail some of the behind the scenes for the Podcast Hall of Fame, Todd’s report on CES 2024 and some of the products he says and of course, our upcoming attendance of Podfest in Orlando Hall of Fame Live Stream– Friday, January 26th @ 7 pm est Hall of Fame Live Attendance Tickets! New Media Show @ Podfest – Thursday, Jan 25th 3:30-5:00 pm est (Inside Expo Hall) Summary: In this podcast episode, Todd and Rob start with a light-hearted conversation, with Todd returning to the studio after attending the Consumer Electronics Show (CES). They discuss Todd’s experiences at CES, highlighting his observations of various innovative products and technologies. Todd shares details about health tech, AI integrations, and unique gadgets like a back-facing camera for personal safety, and other AI-driven and soundproofing technologies. They then shift the conversation to the Podcast Hall of Fame, focusing on the upcoming induction ceremony. They delve into the selection process for inductees, discussing the importance of balancing recognition between well-known podcasters and significant behind-the-scenes podcast industry contributors. They address the challenges in organizing the Hall of Fame, including excluding politics in the selection process, handling the backlog of nominees, and ensuring inclusivity and representation of the entire podcasting community. The financial aspects of the event are also discussed, including ticket sales and the need to build support and momentum for the Hall of Fame. Todd and Rob encourage listeners to support the event, highlighting its significance in honoring contributors to the podcasting field. Towards the end of the podcast, they plan their live session at the upcoming Podfest Expo, guests, and the show’s format. They conclude by emphasizing the importance of the Podcast Hall of Fame in recognizing the diverse range of contributions to the podcasting industry and encouraging listeners to support the event. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Podfest – CES 2024 – Podcast Hall of Fame #574 first appeared on New Media Show.

On the New Media Show we delve into the exciting details of the 2024 Podcast Hall of Fame Inductees. This episode is not just an announcement; it’s an immersive preview of the podcasting world’s most awaited event that will be held live In-Person Induction Ceremony on Jan 26, 2024 @ 7 pm EST / 4 pm PST Live Streamed: YouTube.com/@libsyn With host: Dr. Drew . The Hall of Fame ceremony is being held at Podfest Expo. Special Guest on today’s show Dave Jackson, Podcast Hall of Famer Doug Kaye, A new 2024 inductee renowned for pioneering work with the Conversations Network Exclusive insights into the 2024 Podcast Hall of Fame inductees Behind-the-scenes look at the upcoming induction ceremony Engaging in conversations with podcasting’s most influential figures Join us for this episode filled with revelations, discussions, and celebrations of podcasting excellence. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036 The post 2024 Podcast Hall of Fame Inductees #573 first appeared on New Media Show.

Todd and Rob discuss the various aspects of the podcasting industry, and its future trajectory is explored. The discussion begins with Todd and Rob addressing the current state and potential future of podcasting, emphasizing challenges such as the absurd proposition of abandoning RSS and the risk of exploitation by large corporations. They stress the importance of creating superior content and adopting a realistic approach to podcasting. Further delving into the industry’s challenges, they consider content distribution, target audience, and the intricacies of starting an online show. They advise focusing on individual show goals and celebrating milestones, regardless of audience size. The discussion extends to investment trends in content creation and the cultural shift towards careers as influencers among younger generations. The “podcast industrial complex” concept is introduced, highlighting its focus on advertising revenue and the need for a balanced approach to providing tools and services. Todd and Rob also discuss the recent decrease in podcast episodes, attributing it to seasonal variations, and speculate on the impact of New Year’s resolutions on podcast creation. The conversation shifts to the need for standardizing podcast metrics, debating the advantages and challenges of such standardization. Financial implications of industry changes, such as renewal processes and guideline development, are also discussed. They emphasize the importance of fraud prevention and the need for investment in this area. The shift in industry terminology from “downloads” to “plays” and the evolution of advertising in the digital space are explored. They discuss the challenges of standardizing and measuring advertising effectiveness, stressing the need for trusted third-party involvement and highlighting the difficulties in measuring audience engagement. In conclusion, they plan to update their session announcement. Todd is creating a private group for podcast discussions and inviting audience feedback. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Evolving Landscape and Challenges in Podcasting #572 first appeared on New Media Show.

Todd and Rob, discuss various topics related to podcasting and technology. They start by discussing the New Media Show site going to a new platform and the importance of the updates. The discussion moves to certain podcasters shifting towards selling impressions rather than downloads in podcasting, with Heather Osgood’s podcasts mentioned. They express skepticism about this change, citing concerns over impressions’ value and impact on the podcast industry. Todd and Rob also discuss the iOS 17 update affecting podcast download counts, especially for shows with over 300 episodes. They delve into the complexities of podcast metrics and the importance of understanding audience behavior. Additionally, they touch upon other topics like the Corporate Transparency Act requiring corporations and LLCs to disclose ownership information, the use of social media for personal information sharing, the impact of the economy on people’s spending habits, and the trend of electric vehicles. They also briefly mention the decline in podcast episodes published during the holiday season and the significance of this trend. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post The End of Year Wrap Up #571 first appeared on New Media Show.

Todd and Rob discussed recent research showing that podcast listeners consume audio and video podcasts, often following the same shows in both formats. They debated whether podcasting is shifting towards more video, with Todd arguing that video is still a tiny percentage of podcasting. The conversation shifts to broader topics in the podcasting space. They touch upon recent research by Tom Webster, which suggests a unified audience for audio and video podcasts. This leads to a detailed exchange about the consumption habits of podcast audiences, the practicalities and challenges of producing video content, and the importance of catering to audio and video audiences. They debate the merits of audio versus video podcasting, with Todd emphasizing the need for podcasters to have realistic expectations about the impact and reach of video content. Rob counters by highlighting the evolving listener preferences and the potential for video to attract a different audience segment. There’s a discussion about the technical aspects of integrating video into podcasts, such as using HLS streaming and the complexities of embedding video content. They also discuss changes in video hosting platforms like Vimeo and the strategic considerations for podcasters choosing between different media formats. The conversation has an underlying theme of balancing innovation and practicality in podcast production. They agree that while video offers new opportunities, it also requires a distinct approach and strategy, different from traditional audio podcasting. Other topics included: Todd is moving his websites to new infrastructure to upgrade technology and lower costs Recent examples of podcasts being removed from Spotify highlight the risks of being on closed platforms Promoting modern podcast apps that support new formats like video and allow listeners to keep shows via value-for-value A music artist using podcasting and value-for-value to earn more from her music The need to educate podcasters and listeners about these new opportunities beyond big platforms like YouTube The overarching debate was whether video and new formats are the future of podcasting or a niche pursued by very few shows. They agreed content creators should understand the differences in audio vs. video audiences and strategies. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Educating Podcast Listeners on Podcast Apps #570 first appeared on New Media Show.

Classic New Media show where we take some time and explain in detail and demystify some explosive comments making the rounds. Todd also criticizes a YouTube hack coming out of the Podcasting 2.0 initiative. ” Quick recap: Todd and Rob discussed their challenges with their new media show, including technical difficulties and the need for improved audio quality, the transparency of podcast statistics, and the importance of audience demographics. Additionally, they touched upon the desire by some to shift from downloading media to streaming and the potential impact of advertising revenue on their businesses. Summary New Media Show Launch With Technical Challenges Todd and Rob started their new media show, facing some initial technical difficulties with the audio processing. Todd mentioned that they had made adjustments to ensure the audio quality would be good. They also discussed a previous incident where one channel was down during recording, which Todd had resolved. Rob and Todd discussed the challenges of the recording process for podcasters, and outdated technology. However, they acknowledged technological advancements, like the affordability of better recording tools. Rob mentioned their collaboration with companies like Nemato, hinting at potential solutions, while Todd pointed out that adopting NDI technology could simplify the process despite the cost of necessary equipment. They also discussed using HDMI and USB as standard interfaces for online creators, with Todd expressing interest in more straightforward setup options if they were to start again. Podcasting and YouTube Integration Debate Todd expressed concerns about the need for an internet connection and that not all airlines allow video streaming. Rob shared their experience of watching videos on airplanes. The conversation concluded without a clear decision on whether to proceed with the integration. They also discussed the potential of podcasting 2.0 and video, with Todd expressing their concern over third parties implementing a YouTube hack. Podcast Statistics Transparency and Standardization Todd and Rob discussed the transparency of podcast statistics, focusing on using OP-3. Todd expressed concerns over the discrepancies in numbers between the two platforms, while Rob emphasized the importance of transparency. They discussed the importance of having a standard for podcast statistics. They agreed that any fluctuations in the numbers are likely due to factors such as bot activity and distribution platforms. They concluded that allowing podcasters to turn off public stats is essential. They also discussed Blubrry’s media kit, which provides creators with a private link to share with media buyers, updating every 24 hours. Podcasting Metrics and Certification Discussion They also touched upon the current dissatisfaction with the IAB, which is expensive. Todd admitted that the IAB will never be replaced by OP3, but suggested that the OP-3 could serve as a prefix for those ok with showing off their stats. They also discussed the potential shift from downloading media to streaming, affecting media delivery. Todd mentioned that despite the high cost of maintaining an IAB certification, only a tiny portion of their user base, approximately 3 to 4%, cares about the certification. They ended the discussion by discussing the Pod News Daily Show’s viewership numbers. New Products, and Advertising Revenue They also considered transitioning to a value4value model, which would require significant effort but could be supported by their audience. Todd and Rob discussed the potential issues with using Starlink for streaming shows and the bad idea of integrating YouTube videos into podcasting apps. They also talked about the impact of advertising revenue on their businesses and mentioned upcoming changes related to programmatic and transcripts in early 2023. They stressed that despite the current economic situation and layoffs in the podcasting space, the medium is not dying. Media, Advertising, and Podcast Challenges Rob and Todd discussed the struggles of media companies under current economic conditions. The conversation shifted to measuring podcast advertising, with Todd discussing a simple formula to estimate the size of a podcast audience over time. They stressed the importance of consistent data over three months to determine the audience size. Podcasting Transparency and Advertiser Relations Todd and Rob discussed the challenges content creators face in the podcasting industry. They highlighted the issue of transparency in the relationship between advertisers and podcasters, with advertisers often failing to provide performance metrics. Todd and Rob also reflected on past experiences in other media industries and their challenges in delivering better performance at a lower cost. They concluded that advertisers are taking advantage of the podcasting medium without contributing to its transparency. They also discussed the limitations

With the number of companies laying people off and major networks reporting 7 figure losses everything may not be as well as it seems in the podcasting space. Todd and Rob engage in a lively and wide-ranging discussion about various aspects of the podcasting industry. The conversation discusses industry trends, starting with recent layoffs at Spotify. Rob suggests that the podcasting industry is undergoing a “reset,” similar to what happened around 2008-2009. They delve into the implications of these layoffs, discussing how it leads to a redistribution of talent across the industry, potentially leading to new opportunities. Todd and Rob also discuss the financial aspects of podcasting platforms, emphasizing the challenge of sustaining a free service model. They specifically mention Spotify’s financial struggles and the potential repercussions for podcasters hosted on the platform. Rob highlights the importance of audio quality in podcast production. The conversation moves to broader industry changes, including the shift away from guaranteed deals with talent, the importance of content quality over celebrity deals, and the evolving nature of podcast advertising. They mention the significance of the IAB (Interactive Advertising Bureau) standards for podcast metrics and how adherence to these standards impacts the industry. Rob and Todd also touch upon the role of AI in podcasting, predicting its increasing influence in the future, particularly in enhancing audio quality and simplifying production processes. They acknowledge the potential of AI in automating certain aspects of production, but also recognize the unique challenges and nuances in audio processing that might limit its application. Overall, the podcast episode offers valuable insights into the current state and future trends of the podcasting industry, highlighting both challenges and opportunities for podcasters and platforms alike. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Podcast Advertising on Decline? #568 first appeared on New Media Show.

The “New Media Show” podcast episode features Rob and Todd, covering various topics relevant to the podcasting industry. With a focus on technology in podcasting, particularly on audio quality in different recording environments. They talk about a new app that allows listeners to skip ads, diving into the technical and ethical implications of this feature, such as its effect on ad revenues and the potential legal issues it could raise for podcasters. The conversation then shifts to the podcasting industry’s landscape, highlighting the recent decline in new episodes published around Thanksgiving and the ongoing challenges faced by various podcast platforms. They discuss the top podcast hosts and the dominance of big media companies in hosting large shows. This leads to analyzing the top podcast genres, with true crime and culture topping the list. We also touch on the international podcast market, noting the significant difference in advertising revenue between the US and other countries like the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. We speculate on the reasons behind this disparity, such as the maturity of the markets and the influence of radio. The discussion moves to monetizing podcasts, exploring the potential of premium podcasting tools and subscription models. We delve into the challenges and opportunities for podcasters in monetizing their content, including the impact of brand safety and suitability on advertising revenues. The episode concludes with a broader discussion on the future of podcasting, the importance of podcasters educating their audiences about new industry developments, and the potential for more diversified revenue streams. The hosts emphasize the importance of options for podcasters in monetizing their content, whether through advertising, donations, premium content, or other methods. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Navigating Technology, Monetization, and Industry Trends #566 first appeared on New Media Show.

James Cridland and Sam Sethi join the New Media show, engaging in a discussion about the evolving landscape of podcasting, particularly focusing on the integration of new technologies and standards such as Podcasting 2.0. They highlight the importance of adapting to advancements like alternate enclosure tags and live streaming capabilities within podcast feeds. These developments are seen as pivotal in enhancing the podcast experience by offering listeners the choice between audio and video formats and enabling live interactions through micropayments and back-channel conversations. The conversation also touches upon podcast hosting platforms’ role and readiness to embrace these changes. They discuss the potential for platforms like StreamYard to automate live streaming integration into podcast feeds, thereby simplifying the process for podcasters. This integration could revolutionize delivering and consuming content, making podcasts more interactive and accessible. Additionally, the dialogue shifts towards the broader context of podcasting’s growth and its relationship with radio broadcasting. Insights are shared on the gradual yet significant growth of podcast listenership, the changing habits of younger audiences, and the slow response of traditional radio to these shifts. The podcasting industry is seen as a significant and growing media segment, with its revenue contributions becoming increasingly notable for large broadcasting companies. The podcast ultimately underscores the dynamic nature of the podcasting industry, emphasizing the need for adaptability, innovation, and the willingness to embrace new technologies to stay relevant and engaging in the ever-evolving media landscape. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post James Cridland and Sam Sethi on New Media Show #565 first appeared on New Media Show.

Todd and Rob, the mainstream, are already listening to podcasts! Yes, this is correct, but a portion of them have never heard a podcast, and we break it down with Tom Webster from Sounds Profitable to discuss how we get the remaining non-listeners to tune into a podcast. The conversation is pretty deep. Plus, Todd breaks the silence on a podcast you must listen to. Oh, don’t create a podcast like this guy did! Show Summary: The podcast began with a critical look at the industry’s approach to growth and monetization, with Tom Webster emphasizing the need for a collective effort to bring in more advertisers and listeners. The conversation pivoted to the role of industry organizations and the potential need for a centralized body to coalesce various industry efforts, a sentiment echoed by Rob. There was a strong focus on the idea that more money in the industry would bring more opportunities, leading to growth and organization. Todd discussed the everyday concerns of content creators, mainly how to attract more listeners. They explored strategies to increase podcasting awareness and encourage podcast listening, touching on the importance of engaging content and the challenges of existing promotional methods. Tom highlighted that podcasting isn’t yet a $2 billion industry and stressed the need for more money to flow into the space. They examined the responsibilities of trade organizations and the potential benefits of an open approach to sharing industry resources. Tom also touched on the need for the industry to take bigger risks in show development, moving away from the easy button of giving celebrities shows when they might not be suited for podcasting. He talked about the importance of podcasters understanding their audience and creating content that listeners genuinely desire. The hosts discussed the potential of AI in podcast discovery, the importance of podcasters listening to other podcasts, especially within their genre, and the need for podcasters to clearly articulate the value proposition of their shows to their audience. The dialogue ended with a call to podcasters to be sharper in promoting their shows and to equip their audience with language to recommend their podcasts effectively. This led to reflections on the importance of word-of-mouth for podcast discovery and growth. The speaker’s commentary about word of mouth highlighted its critical role in podcast discovery. It was noted that word of mouth remains the primary way people discover new podcasts. Consequently, the ability to recommend a podcast—its ‘recommendability’—is vital. For a podcast to be recommendable, it must be of such quality that listeners will not regret passing it along to someone else; it must be compelling enough to stand up to the endorsement. The conversation also addressed the personal aspect of recommendation. Since podcast listeners understand their friend’s and family’s interests, they are in a prime position to recommend podcasts that resonate with them. For instance, during a Thanksgiving dinner, if a topic arises that a podcast addresses effectively, a recommendation at that moment could be impactful. This underscores the importance of equipping listeners with the correct language and tools to recommend podcasts effectively and naturally in conversations. Todd discussed The Marketing AI Show as an example of a recommended show as an exemplary case of a recommendable program. It was presented as an essential listen for anyone involved in business—not just those in podcasting or hosting. The show covers how AI will affect the marketing sector, addressing the tools and advancements professionals should be aware of, including some political aspects, suggesting that the content is comprehensive and touches on various relevant topics. Todd admitted to initially keeping the podcast to themselves, humorously underscoring its value. The underlying message was that if you aim to remain competitive and informed in the business world, especially with the rapid advancements in AI, listening to the Marketing AI show is almost necessary. The discussion suggests that the podcasting community could grow much faster by harnessing this word-of-mouth effect, emphasizing the need for content creators to craft their shows with this in mind. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post The Challenge of Introducing Podcasts to the Mainstream #564 first appeared on New Media Show.

So, has YouTube and others tainted the word Podcasting so bad now that people will automatically assume a podcast is just some Video YouTube channel? The battle of educating all podcasters on the value of open RSS must begin! A predominant theme was the challenges and avenues of podcast monetization. We touched on advertising models, the potential for subscriptions, and the nuances of audience donations. We highlighted the increasing prevalence of dynamic ad insertion in the industry and delved into the intricacies of programmatic ad buying. We discussed the emerging role of brand safety and content moderation tools. The conversation often veered into discussions about major platforms like YouTube and Spotify. Speculation arose about Joe Rogan’s future exclusivity with Spotify, hinting at the broader dynamics of platform exclusivity deals. Todd shared his endeavors in search engine optimization with his latest experiments. We expressed concerns about the potential misuse of AI in cloning voices. Overviewed the changing habits of younger audiences in media consumption and wondered if the term “podcasting” might eventually transcend its current RSS distribution model. The importance of open platforms and the continued relevance of RSS for ensuring creative freedom were stressed by Todd. A notable mention was the potential use of AI tools like ChatGPT in assisting in show production. Todd shared his experience of enhancing his show notes using AI, highlighting the practical applications of such technology in the podcasting space. The decline of mainstream media, especially among younger demographics, was discussed alongside the rise of online video platforms. The hosts explored the unique bond podcasts create, fostering a sense of relationship and community among listeners. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post The Battle for Open Podcasting Begins #563 first appeared on New Media Show.

Rob and Todd discuss the nothing burger of the YouTube RSS support and the non-viability of YouTube for podcasters, considering its primary emphasis on video content. The pair critically evaluated the hurdles surrounding podcast support. Monetization on YouTube was another hot topic. We discuss the advantages and disadvantages, concluding that only a handful of larger shows might benefit substantially. They stressed the need to educate podcasters on the nuances of the monetization process and voiced concerns about potential content strikes. Discussions ranged from Rob’s interactions with YouTube representatives to Todd’s critique of Google’s history with RSS. They lamented missed opportunities, As the conversation evolved, the focus shifted to podcasting’s transformation and potential revenue streams. The recent industry shifts, including the layoffs at Libsyn, were touched upon, offering a glimpse into the changing landscape of podcasting. Social media’s ever-growing influence on content creation was another focal point. Todd and Rob explored the role of platforms in audience growth and content discovery. They debated the merits of platform-exclusive content, the importance of building a robust subscriber base, and the future of content monetization on social platforms. We delved into the realities of content creation and monetization across various platforms. We tackled industry pressures and competition and emphasized the importance of commitment in the podcasting world. AI’s role in image and text creation was also examined. WordPress was spotlighted as both a boon to most and a challenge for others. Their shared experiences with the platform underscored its potential and the hurdles it presents. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post YouTube Podcast Big Nothing Burger #562 first appeared on New Media Show.

YouTube Platform Challenges Discussed Todd and Rob discussed the challenges and concerns of recommending YouTube to podcasters. Todd highlighted issues with the platform’s validation process, advertising policy, and monetization threshold. Additionally, he expressed concerns about the platform monetizing content and adding extra work for podcasters to manage each episode. They also discussed converting MP3 files into video files on YouTube and potentially losing metrics by replacing previously published episodes. Todd’s concerns about YouTube’s video-centric approach and Google’s past decisions regarding RSS were also discussed. Lastly, they discussed their concerns about Google’s decision to discontinue the Google Podcasts app, with Todd advising podcast creators to find alternative apps. PHD In Podcasting? Todd and Rob discussed an exciting new initiative – offering a ‘PhD in Podcasting’ to listeners who donate $1,000 to their show. They jokingly considered the logistics, including the design of the certificate and how to avoid counterfeiting. They also suggested that some listeners might be eligible for an honorary PhD. However, they acknowledged that no exams or qualifications would be required beyond the donation. The audience met the idea with amusement and intrigue, attracting many potential applicants. Some AI Updates The discussion covered the advancing technology of AI tools like Chat, Gpt, and Bard and how they can be used for conversations and image analysis. Rob shared his experience using these tools to analyze a podcast’s artwork. Todd mentioned testing the Zoom AI feature, which generates a summary of meetings and speculated about its potential for obsoleting third-party services. They discussed the importance of integrating AI into podcast hosting services and predicted that failure to do so would lead to the extinction of such companies within three years. They also reflected on the history and evolution of podcasting, including Leo Laporte’s past skepticism towards the medium. The conversation also involved regaining the rights to Todd’s book and updating it due to massive changes in the podcasting industry. Podcasting Platform Progress Rob and Todd discussed the potential for video podcasting to grow and their increased interest in this format. Todd emphasized the importance of feedback and communication between podcasters and hosting platforms and mentioned that they were working on improvements based on user suggestions. They also discussed the challenges of user interface (UI) design, acknowledging the need for consistency across different publishing methods. Todd and Rob discussed the advantages and disadvantages of other publishing platforms, noting that their platform offered more flexibility than WordPress. They concluded the discussion by reflecting on the need to occasionally overhaul a system rather than maintaining outdated versions. They also discussed the value-for-value feature in their interface and the current state of the podcasting industry. Wrap Up Rob and Todd discuss launching a new live show on the Streamyard channels in partnership with 4 Stream Yard. The show will focus on podcasts, content, and video and podcasting topics. Todd shares his experience with roadcasters duo and the challenges of setting them up properly, mentioning that they are complicated devices requiring much testing. Adam Curry offers to send Todd configuration files. Show summary created by Zoom AI Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post YouTube Overlord of Podcasting? #561 first appeared on New Media Show.

Todd and Rob take a look at the statistics of show and episode production over the past 12 months. Based on pretty much all data the podcasting space still looks to be in a recession in new shows being created are still down, and episode production is slightly lower than 2022 to date. See the full summary below. They discussed AI tools like ChatGPT and how Todd has been experimenting with using it to generate show notes and summarize podcast transcripts. He found you need to be very explicit in prompts to get good results. They discussed the trend of podcast networks being required to use AI brand safety tools by advertisers and ad platforms. This puts pressure on creators to understand these tools. Other topics included Bloomberg adding bonus content for Apple Podcast subscribers; the Death, Sex and Money podcast from WNYC. The hosts experimented with asking ChatGPT to generate images based on prompts, with mixed results. They discussed how AI like ChatGPT, still has limitations. Todd emphasized creators should become experts in AI to remain competitive and understand how to use tools like ChatGPT effectively. He predicts AI will bring big changes in 3 years. They noted human stories and voices will still be valued alongside AI tools. The hosts plan to continue exploring AI impacts on new media. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post 2023 to date State of Industry #560 first appeared on New Media Show.

Podcast One’s Stock continues to go down. The question is how low can the stock go and if, at some point, there is a buying opportunity yet full of risk. But it’s a lousy omen of how far it’s dropped so far. Show Summary: Todd talks about hosting the podcast awards ceremony on Saturday. They discuss computers and equipment needed for podcasting and video editing. Rob discusses upgrading his PC and workspace to improve his video editing capabilities. Todd advocates for Mac Minis as great bang-for-buck desktop computers. Rob brings up predictions he saw that unknown, innovative podcasters doing great work under the radar will emerge. Todd agrees and says many of the shows nominated for the podcast awards were unknown to him but clearly successful. They discuss recent podcast industry news, including: Canada regulating streaming podcasts making over $10 million? YouTube Music adding auto-download for podcasts More platforms adding AI features like Descript A new Shure SM7B microphone with built-in preamp PodcastOne stock price plummeting They debate layoffs and high staff numbers at public radio stations like WNYC. They conclude by soliciting ideas for a new podcast theme and cover art. Todd shows examples of AI-generated images he’s used for past episodes. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post How Low Can the Stock Go – Blood in the Streets #559 first appeared on New Media Show.

Once again, Google cannot get its podcast strategy straight and will pull the plug on Google Podcast sometime next year after achieving mild success and leaving the door open for Apple to create a viable Podcast App for Android. Those screwed over will be the millions of Android users now having to find a podcast app. Plenty of great ones at PodcastApps.com, and of course, there is a list of Apps that work with SubscribeOnAndroid.com Show Summary: There is skepticism about whether YouTube Music will properly support podcasts since YouTube is built around video. It is unclear if they will ingest MP3 feeds or convert everything to Video. Apple does not currently have a podcast app for Android. With the demise of Google Podcasts on Android, Todd & Rob are concerned about podcasters losing listeners and the ability for Android users to subscribe easily. There was discussion around podcast statistics and ad analytics. Some in the industry feel there is fraud occurring with inflated download numbers. However, independent measurement can help validate numbers. Prompted by Todd, who got a mysterious email from an unknown group questioning certain podcast companies’ business practices around ads and payouts. They did not reveal details. The hosts talked about the importance of podcasters having control of their content and feeds. They should drive listeners back to their own websites. The hosts re-iterated that podcasting continues to be about creating authentic content and voices, even as AI tech evolve Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036The post Google Podcast Shutting Down #558 first appeared on New Media Show.