
National Park After Dark
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Leaving Earth to Join the Aliens: North Cowichan Municipal Forest Reserve
Trail Tales 100: Popping P***y in Glacier, Trails of Horror, & Night Vision Ghosts
Pups in the Parks: Man’s Best Friend in America’s Best Idea
Die or Amputate Your Arm: Canyonlands National Park
Trail Tales 99: Bike Heists, Scubavangelists & Camping Gone Wong
The Colorado Cannibal: Gunnison National Forest
The Deadly Hunt for the Lost Dutchman Mine: Tonto National Forest
Trail Tales 98: Spooky Sleuths, Tentacle Bunnies & Shaming Monkey Owners
What Happened to Sheila Kearns? Mount Rainier National Park
The Cog Railway Disaster: White Mountain National Forest
Trail Tales 97: Hot Cowboys, Cold Nights & Bathroom Ghosts
The Mysterious Death of Mostly Harmless: Big Cypress National Reserve
The Grizzly Mauling That Changed Yellowstone National Park
Trail Tales 96 ft. LGBTQ Outdoors
The Sasquatch Scapegoat: Sierra National Forest
Abducted on Lake Champlain
Trail Tales 95: Ghost Grandpas, Faking Injuries & Spooky Flavored Lore
2 Girls, 1 Fort: Castillo de San Marcos National Monument
The Full Ted Bundy Story | Presenting America’s Most Infamous Crimes
Kidnapped by a Satanic Cult? Alpine National Park
Trail Tales 94: P***y Poltergeists, Dirtbag Dads & Wholesome Hauntings
Not Our War: Namib-Naukluft National Park
Adventure, Death & A Mother’s Day Tradition: Mount St. Helens National Volcanic Monument
Trail Tales 93: ASStronauts, Butt Foam & Getting Too High
The Mountain That Moves: The Frank Slide Disaster
The Incarcerated Women Fighting California’s Fires: Santa Monica National Recreation Area
Trail Tales 92 ft. National Park Trust
The Murder of Bianca Rudolph: Kafue National Park
Acadia National Park, Just Skip It! ft. Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet
Trail Tales 91
The Bravest Little Dog in Alaska: Glacier Bay National Park
Ep 364The Questionable Death of Duncan MacPherson: Stubai Alps
In August of 1989, 23 year-old Duncan MacPherson vanished from a ski resort in Austria. His parents relentlessly and fruitlessly sought answers for 14 years, until 2003 when a melting glacier revealed Duncan’s remains. What they thought would be the answer to the question that haunted them for decades, turned out to be just the beginning of another heart-wrenching search for answers. Was Duncan the victim of a tragic accident, or was he murdered? WE WERE NOMINATED FOR A WEBBY! VOTE FOR US HERE BY APRIL 16TH! Sources: Book: Cold a Long Time by John Leake Video: Fifth Estate Documentary For a full list of our sources, visit npadpodcast.com/episodes For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to this week’s partners! Mint Mobile: Shop plans at MINT MOBILE dot com slash NPAD. That’s MINT MOBILE dot com slash NPAD.Smalls: For a limited time only, get 60% off your first order, plus free shipping, when you head to http://Smalls.com/NPAD Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 363Trail Tales 90 ft. Rangers of the Lost Park
Today’s stories all have a theme - rangers! We are joined by former US Forest Service field ranger Liz Crandall to chat between the tales about the current state of public lands, what challenges they are facing - and more importantly, how we can help and keep hope alive. Rangers of the Lost Park: Instagram Rangers of the Lost Park: Website Get involved with Conservation Lands Foundation: Here Resistance Rangers Instagram Take Action for Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Take Action to Save the Boundary Waters Take Action for Big Bend For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to this week’s partners! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 362A Deadly Uprising: Manzanar National Historic Site
During World War II, the United States government rounded up over 120,000 Japanese Americans, most of whom were U.S. citizens, and sent them to remote incarceration camps across the western United States for suspected disloyalty. One of those camps was Manzanar, located in the harsh desert of eastern California. When a popular community leader was arrested without explanation, thousands of incarcerated residents gathered in protest, sparking what we now know as the Manzanar Uprising, which left two people dead and changed the course of history. For a full list of our sources, visit npadpodcast.com/episodes For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to this week’s partners! Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you visit Nutrafol dot com and enter promo code NPAD.Coyuchi: Get FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF your first order when you visit Coyuchi dot com slash NPAD. That’s Coyuchi dot comslash NPAD to get FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF. C-O-Y-U-C-H-I dot com slash NPAD.IQBAR: Text PARK to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message anddata rates may apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 361A Sit Down With a Psychic
Today’s episode is unlike any other we have done before! We will be speaking to Alissa Smith Moore, an evidential medium and spiritual intuitive. She answers your questions about her gift, what she has learned on her journey and how we can all connect to our loved ones - who never quite leave us. Alissa’s Website Alissa’s Social Media For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to this week’s partners! Blueland: Save 15% off your first order at Blueland Honeylove: Save 20% Off Honeylove by going to honeylove.com/NPAD! #honeylovepod IM8: Give your body what it deserves with IM8! Get 10% off your first order, a free Welcome Kit, and five free travel sachets when you visit IM8 and use code NPAD. PAKA: To grab your PAKA hoodie, go to PAKA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 360Trail Tales 89
Today’s stories include survival of the fittest, mistaken identities, mythical rangers, badass advocates and legendary names. Outsiders Only bonus stories available for Patreon and Apple Subscribers! For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 359Killed for a Kiss: Appalachian Trail
In May of 1988 a young couple set out for a weekend of alone time in the woods, but only one would make it out alive. After being viciously gunned down at their campsite off the Appalachian Trail in a heinous act of violence fueled by hate, Claudia Brenner struggled to survive, but ultimately went on to share their story, and went on to become a fierce advocate for LBGTQ safety and justice. Documentary: In the Hollow Books: Eight Bullets: One Woman's Story of Surviving Anti-Gay Violence For a full list of our sources, visit npadpodcast.com/episodes For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to this week’s partners! 3DayBlinds: For their buy 1 get 1 50% off deal, head to http://3DayBlinds.com/NPAD Coyuchi: Get 15% off your first order when you visit http://Coyuchi.com/NPAD IQ Bar: Text PARK to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

National Park After Dark Trailer
trailerWelcome to National Park After Dark. Join us every week as we explore the dark side of our beloved National Parks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 358Abandoned in the Arctic: Northeast Greenland National Park
In the early 1900s, explorer Ejnar Mikkelsen and a young mechanic named Iver Iversen traveled to northeast Greenland. Their mission? To recover the lost records of a doomed expedition that proved Greenland was a single landmass under Danish control. When their ship was crushed by ice and their crew departed, the mission turned into years of starvation and isolation in what has since become the world’s largest national park. For a complete list of our sources, visit npadpodcast.com/episodes For the latest NPAD updates, group travel opportunities, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to this week’s partners! 3DayBlinds: For their buy 1 get 1 50% off deal, head to 3DayBlinds.com/NPAD Coyuchi: Get 15% off your first order when you visit Coyuchi.com/ NPAD IQ Bar: Text PARK to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 357Trail Tales 88 ft. Creeps and Crimes
Today’s stories include haunted cabins, fake moose, symbolic dragonflies, probable alien abductions and a whole lot of yapping. Outsiders Only bonus stories available for Patreon and Apple Subscribers! For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!Hollow Socks: For a limited time Hollow Socks is having a Buy 2, Get 2 Free Sale. Head to Hollowsocks.com today to check it out. #HollowSockspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 356Haunted Highway: Route 66
Established in 1926 as one of America’s OG highways, Route 66 linked over 2,000 miles of the country from Illinois to California. Although long since decommissioned, in today’s episode, we make eight stops along the iconic route from mansions to battlefields to visit old haunts of the past.Sources:Urge Congress to Support National Historic Trail Designation for Route 66NPS Preservation Program NPS Route 66 - Corridor Preservation Program For a full list of our sources, visit http://npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdarkSupport the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!Ka'Chava: Go to https://kachava.com and use code NPAD for 15% off your first order.Smalls: Smalls New Year’s Special - get 60% off your first order, plus free shipping, when you head to Smalls.com/NPAD.Cash App: Download Cash App Today: [https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/ejy661fu] #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Cash App Green, overdraft coverage, borrow, cash back offers and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.MILL: Try Mill risk-free for 90 days and get $75 off at mill.com/NPAD and use code NPAD at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 355What Happened to Sophia Koetsier? Murchison Falls National Park
In October of 2015, 21 year old Dutch medical student Sophia Koetsier vanished inside Murchison Falls National Park in Uganda, a place with strong river currents and dangerous wildlife. When Sophia’s belongings were found along the Nile River, investigators were quick to jump to an explanation, but many argue that the scene left more questions than answers. If you have any information regard Sophia’s disappearance please email [email protected] and visit https://www.findsophia.org For a full list of our sources, visit http://npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdarkSupport the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!IM8: Follow our link and use code NPAD for a Free Welcome Kit, five free travel sachets plus 10% off your order.Naked Wines: To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to NakedWines.com/NPAD and use code NPAD for both the code AND PASSWORD.Blueland: Use our link to get 15% off your first order.IQBAR: Text PARK to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products and free shipping. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 354Trail Tales 87
Today’s stories include drug smuggling, lightning trauma, beaver attacks, childhood confessions and dirtbag dads. Outsiders Only bonus stories available for Patreon and Apple Subscribers! For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdarkSupport the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!Hello Fresh: Use our link to get get 10 free meals + a FREE Zwilling Knife (a$144.99 value) on your third box.SelectQuote: Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for YOU, for LESS, and save more than fifty percent at selectquote.com/npadAvocado Green Mattress: Get 15% off mattresses at AvocadoGreenMattress.com/NPADFora Travel: Become a Fora Advisor today at foratravel.com/NPAD Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 353Access to Adventure: Accessibility in National Parks
We hear “the outdoors are for everyone” a lot, and while that is true, accessibility to the outdoors is not always created equal. Today’s episode is dedicated to two remarkable stories of people with disabilities reaching for history in National Parks. A group of paraplegic hikers who set out to climb Guadalupe Peak in wheelchairs and two kayakers who paddled through the Grand Canyon—facing some of the hardest whitewater in the world—completely blind. Documentaries: Assault on the Mountain, The Weight of Water, Blink, Wampler’s Ascent Books: No Barriers: A Blind Man's Journey to Kayak the Grand Canyon by Buddy Levy and Erik Weihenmayer Touch the Top of the World by Erik Weihenmayer Podcasts: No Barriers For a full list of our sources, visit http://npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdarkSupport the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!BetterHelp: National Park After Dark is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off.Butcher Box: Head to ButcherBox.com/NPAD to sign up. New listeners get their choice between filet mignon, ny strip, or chicken breast in every box for a year, free shipping, PLUS $20 off your first box.Liquid IV: Use our code NPAD at checkout to get 20% off your first order.3 Day Blinds: For their buy 1 get 1 50% off deal, head to 3DayBlinds.com/NPAD. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 352The National Forest Serial Killer
In the mid-2000s, hikers began disappearing from national forests across the southeastern United States, with their bodies later found in remote areas of the parks. When investigators compared timelines and locations, a pattern emerged. The disappearances were connected by a man who moved easily through public land, blending into trail culture and exploiting the trust shared between strangers in the outdoors. When a woman vanishes, investigators race against time to find her and the identity of the perpetrator to stop further killings.Sources: Wild Crime: Blood Mountain https://www.detpress.com/abcnews/shows/wild-crime/episodes People.com | Celebrity News, Exclusives, Photos and Videos National Forest Serial Killer Confesses to 2007 Dismemberment and Murder of Nurse in Florida: 'It's Time' https://www.ajc.com/news/local/crime-scene-photos-request-sparks-privacy-debate/JR2QrnIXxk5ht6UDxX3DAO/ https://www.rcfp.org/georgia-rushes-pass-crime-photo-exemption-records-law/ https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdnc/pr/gary-michael-hilton-sentenced-four-life-sentences For a full list of our sources, visit http://npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!Smalls: Smalls New Year’s Special - get 60% off your first order, plus free shipping, when you head to Smalls.com/NPAD.Quince: Use our link to get free shipping and 365-day returns.IQBAR: Text PARK to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products and free shipping.Soul: For 30% off your order, head to GetSoul.com and use code NPAD. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 351Trail Tales 86
Today’s stories include almost abductions, cemetery shenanigans, shared trauma and men saving (and ruining) the day. Outsiders Only bonus stories available for Patreon and Apple Subscribers! For a full list of our sources, visit http://npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdarkSupport the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!Cash App: Download Cash App Today: [https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/ejy661fu] #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Direct Deposit, Overdraft Coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.Bellesa: EVERYONE who signs up wins a FREE WhisperVibe™ OR a FREE Rose toy with any Whisper™ order! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/nationalparkafterdark-podcastOllie: Cozy up with your pup this season! Go to ollie.com/npad and use code npad to get 60% off your first box!IM8: Follow our link and use code NPAD for a Free Welcome Kit, five free travel sachets plus 10% off your order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 350Cheers to Five NPAD Years
Take a stroll down memory lane as we reflect on the last five years of NPAD. Come laugh with us (and at us) while we look back on some of the memorable moments that brought us to where we are today. For the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdarkSupport the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!Naked Wines: To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to NakedWines.com/NPAD and use code NPAD for both the code AND PASSWORD.Coyuchi: Get 15% off your first order when you visit Coyuchi.com/npad.3 Day Blinds: For their buy 1 get 1 50% off deal, head to 3DayBlinds.com/NPAD.MILL: Try Mill risk-free for 90 days and get $75 off at mill.com/NPAD and use code NPAD at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 349Into the Wild Truth: What You Didn’t Know About the McCandless Story
Ever since September of 1992, when Chris McCandless was found deceased inside a bus in remote Alaska, the story of why he chose to walk into wilderness has captivated the world. Chris has been idolized, questioned, criticized and immortalized by strangers for decades. Books have been written and movies have been made to share his fascinating story, but were incomplete in their tellings. In 2014, Carine, Chris’s sister published her own version of the story we have come to know as Into the Wild. In her heartbreaking memoir, the world gets a view into their world, and a chance to understand Chris in a brand new way, through the eyes of the person who knew and loved him the most. Banff film festival tickets For a full list of our sources, visit http://npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!IQBAR: Text PARK to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products and free shipping.BetterHelp: National Park After Dark is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off.Blueland: Use our link to get 15% off your first order.Butcher Box: Head to ButcherBox.com/NPAD to sign up. New listeners get their choice between filet mignon, ny strip, or chicken breast in every box for a year, free shipping, PLUS $20 off your first box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Introducing Valley of Shadows: The Devil’s Punchbowl
bonusValley of Shadows is a new true crime podcast that digs into a nearly 30-year old secret buried in the California desert. On June 11, 1998, Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Deputy Jon Aujay set out for a run in California’s Devil’s Punchbowl park — and never came back. Aujay has yet to be found. The Sheriff’s Department rules Aujay’s disappearance a suicide, but friends, family, and fellow deputies insist the story doesn’t add up. Instead, they believe Aujay may have stumbled into the Mojave Desert’s criminal underworld — where outlaw biker gangs crank out methamphetamine and local cops operate on both sides of the law. Through exclusive interviews, revealing wiretaps, and buried police files, journalists Hayley Fox and Betsy Shepherd explore one of Southern California’s most mysterious missing person cases. In Valley of Shadows, they ask: What is the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department hiding? Find Valley of Shadows wherever you get podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ep 348Trail Tales 85
Today’s stories include prank fails, questionable evidence, bear saviors, damned girls trips, and mountain flavored Disneyworlds. Outsiders Only bonus stories available for Patreon and Apple Subscribers! For a full list of our sources, visit http://npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at: Instagram: @nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @nationalparkafterdark Support the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page! Thank you to the week’s partners!Ollie: Cozy up with your pup this season! Go to ollie.com/npad and use code npad to get 60% off your first box!Coyuchi: Get 15% off your first order when you visit Coyuchi.com/npad.Soul: For 30% off your order, head to GetSoul.com and use code NPAD.Fora Travel: Become a Fora Advisor today at foratravel.com/NPAD Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices