
Mutual Understanding
Reconciling religion and spirituality with a rational scientific worldview. Also, anything else I find interesting.
Ben & Divia
Show overview
Mutual Understanding has been publishing since 2023, and across the 3 years since has built a catalogue of 62 episodes. That works out to roughly 95 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a monthly cadence.
Episodes typically run over ninety minutes — most land between 1h 5m and 1h 53m — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Society & Culture show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 3 weeks ago, with 16 episodes already out so far this year. Published by Ben & Divia.
From the publisher
A podcast where we seek to understand our mutual's worldviews mutualunderstanding.substack.com
Latest Episodes
View all 62 episodesKave and I talk about our “heresies”
Kave and I play The Drifter
Tsvi and I talk “slop”, “the ease disease”, and desire paths
Shea and I catch up on discourse
Kave and I play the beginning of The Mermaid Mask
Shea and I talk about many of our usual topics
Kave and I play Murder at the Birch Tree Theater
Shea listening to me being more deranged than usual
AI consciousness and materialism etc part 2 (better audio)
(bad audio) AI consciousness and materialism etc with Shea part 1
Shea and I talk about how money works
Shea and I talk Rawl, desert/luck, and hantavirus
Shreeda interviews me about parenting
Ethics isn't a truce, with me and Shea

Shea and I talk some behaviorism and more parenting
I hope to get back into recording more regularly soon, but no promises. Life has been pretty busy for me lately. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Very Outdated Iran takes, and some other stuff
Apologies for taking forever to edit this podcast we recorded or Feb 7. We talked about the Iran situation some which was all before the US attacked, but there was some other stuff too. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Kave and I talk adventure games etc.
Relatively rambling as usual, especially the second half I think. I hope some of you enjoy it!Some links:* Kave on X* Kave’s blog (with his excellent Inkhaven posts)* some tweets of mine about being stuck in puzzles* Justin Wack and the Big Time Hack* Scott Whiskers* Mutropolis* Golden Idol games This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom
Last week, I went to see Matt Bateman and Aaron Stupple talk about their parenting disagreements at The Montessorium, the (pretty new!) school Matt created. I enjoyed their conversation, wanted to hear even more, asked them if they’d be up for coming on my podcast, and they did!Probably the best place to find more is on X.com, and here are a few more links too:* Aaron’s book, The Sovereign Child (the link is to the free pdf, and it’s also available at all major book stores* Taking Children Seriously* a thing I wrote a while back about some of what I think about unschooling(ETA: I have locked the comments because I both feel somewhat responsible for comments made on my posts and don’t have the bandwidth to monitor them at this time) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Shea and I talk UBI studies and the metaphysics of value
A bunch of this was me trying to understanding Shea’s metaphysics of value and also where he sees property rights as coming from. It may have been more repetitive than usual, since I kept asking him to explain stuff again, but it was helpful for me at least!We reference this series of blog posts about proposed reforms to zoning laws. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Shea and I talk intrapersonal property rights etc
Shea started out talking about recognizing thought processes as value-laden, and then we got into ~psych debugging a way I think some of my thought processes haven’t been respecting what I think are the correct internal property rights. Shea updated somewhat about what I mean when I’m saying things in an IFS framing. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com