
Multifamily Investor Nation
PassiveInvesting.com · Whitney Elkins-Hutten
Show overview
Multifamily Investor Nation has been publishing since 2019, and across the 7 years since has built a catalogue of 226 episodes. That works out to roughly 130 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.
Episodes typically run twenty to thirty-five minutes — most land between 27 min and 40 min — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-US-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 1 weeks ago, with 17 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2023, with 46 episodes published. Published by Whitney Elkins-Hutten.
From the publisher
Want to hear from people closing multifamily/apartment deals? Listen in as our team interviews successful multifamily real estate investors as we dive deep into the details on how they got their deal to the finish/closing line and beyond. No fluff. Just getting down to business with how investors are gaining more passive cash flow with multifamily investing. You can join the Multifamily Investor Nation by visiting us on our Facebook page or YouTube. Free monthly webinars are available.
Latest Episodes
View all 226 episodes*293-Unit Ariza Dripping Springs In Dripping Springs, TX With Mike Novelli, Apartment Investing Expert
290-Unit Avaya Steeplechase In Houston, TX With Shane Thomas, Apartment Syndicator
12-Unit Build-To-Rent Community In Independence Heights, TX With Jose Berlanga, Multifamily Syndication Expert
249-Unit Creekside on Vantage in Dallas, TX with David Lilley, Multifamily Investor
*304-Unit Carillon Bay in St. Petersburg, FL with Jacob Winn, Apartment Syndicator
66-Unit Faris Residences Georgetown in Georgetown, SC with John Makarewicz, Apartment Investing Expert
*46-Unit The Ranch in Gresham, OR with Caleb Webster, Multifamily Syndication Expert
104-Unit The Post In Victoria, TX With Brian Ferguson, Apartment Investor

126-Unit The Rise In Conyers, GA With Chris Lento, Apartment Investing Expert
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews multifamily operator Chris Lento as he shares his journey from aerospace engineer to scaling a nearly 1,000-unit portfolio and acquiring a $26M, 126-unit property in Conyers, Georgia. In this episode, Chris breaks down how he found the deal, navigated a competitive process, and secured it at an attractive basis. He also dives into underwriting, due diligence, capital structure, and the real challenges behind managing and improving a large multifamily asset. If you want a clear, real-world look at how experienced investors source, analyze, and execute large deals—while avoiding common pitfalls—this conversation delivers practical insights you can apply immediately.

96-Unit Courtney Square Apartments In Huntsville, AL With Lane Kawaoka, Multifamily Syndicator
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Lane Kawaoka of The Wealth Elevator in this exclusive episode to deep-dive into the full lifecycle of a notable multifamily deal: Courtney Square Apartments, 96 units located in Huntsville, Alabama. Discover the unconventional acquisition strategy that secured this Class B property at a "smoking amazing" price of $50,000 per unit right before the market peaked. Lane reveals the strategic rationale behind putting long-term fixed-rate debt on the asset and how his team navigated the business plan amidst rising interest rates and "rent softness" that hit the market from 2022 to 2024. Most crucially, learn how Lane successfully executed an exit in 2025—a notoriously tough market—more than doubling investor returns and why holding onto the cash-flowing asset was not the best strategy for maximizing returns. This episode is packed with essential lessons on basis, capital deployment, and the evolving role of diversification for today's syndicator.

18-Unit Grand Central Mobile Home Community in Horseheads, NY with Michael Pansolini, Mobile Home Park Investing Expert
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Michael Pansolini, who shares about his acquisition of the 18-unit Grand Central Mobile Home Community in Horseheads, New York. He explains how his institutional background and relationship with the local park owners played a role in executing his New York-specific strategy and sourced this off-market deal. Michael also discusses the ingredients of a good professional partnership, specifically when managing single-family homes within a mobile home park. Tune in to hear the full story and learn how you can master the mobile home park asset class.

18-Unit Bernice Apartments In Chicago, IL With Lisa Moore, Apartment Investor
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Lisa Moore, a former finance executive turned multifamily investor, about the acquisition of the 18-unit Bernice Apartments in Lansing, a suburb of Chicago. What started as a seemingly turnkey deal quickly revealed unpaid tenants, inaccurate rent rolls, and a complex master lease negotiation. Lisa breaks down how she re-traded the purchase price from $2.1M to $1.7M, structured a bridge loan at 12% interest, and navigated evictions, squatters, and a property management change. She shares how her background in finance and her husband’s construction expertise helped them pivot the business plan, underwrite a heavy value-add, and position the asset for refinance. This is a candid look at what really happens during due diligence—and how experienced operators protect returns when deals get messy.

280-Unit Discovery at West Road in Houston, TX With Sam Morris, Apartment Investing Expert
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Sam Morris of LSCRE about the $44M acquisition of Discovery at West Road, a 280-unit multifamily property in Houston’s Cypress submarket. Sam explains how financial—not physical—distress created the opportunity and why certainty of close mattered more than being the highest bidder. He walks through in-house due diligence, uncovering operational issues, deferred maintenance, and the decision to replace on-site management immediately after takeover. The conversation also covers the 5-year Freddie Mac fixed-rate, interest-only loan at 65% LTV, the equity raise, a 7% preferred return with a 70/30 split, and how declining insurance costs in Houston improved the deal. Sam closes by sharing why location within Cypress ISD made this asset stand out and what he’d do differently next time.

288-Unit Springfield Apartments In Durham, NC With Jon Siegel, Multifamily Investor
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Jon Siegel of RailField about the 288-unit Springfield Apartments in Durham, North Carolina, diving into every step of this multifamily acquisition. Jon shares how he first discovered the property, the twists and timing that led to closing the deal, and the challenges of assuming a Fannie Mae loan. He breaks down the detailed due diligence process, including inspecting units, evaluating the market, and navigating unexpected issues like outdated breaker panels, while ensuring insurance and taxes were managed effectively. The conversation also covers how he structured a programmatic joint venture with institutional partners, the hold and exit strategy, and the value-add approach for maximizing returns, offering listeners a clear, behind-the-scenes look at executing a complex multifamily investment with precision and foresight.

14-Unit Studios On Van Buren in Phoenix, AZ With Caleb Johnson, Apartment Syndication Expert
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Caleb Johnson of Red Sea Capital Group to dive deep into a 14-unit studio in Van Buren, a redevelopment in the heart of Phoenix, Arizona and unpack the real-world challenges behind acquiring a bank-owned, 1940s-era property—from navigating hard money lending and skyrocketing rehab costs to pivoting business plans when co-living no longer penciled. Caleb shares candid insights on due diligence for vacant assets, negotiating purchase price, raising capital in a cautious market, and why experience and the right team matter more than chasing big returns. If you want a transparent, deal-level breakdown of how seasoned investors create value in today’s multifamily market—this episode delivers lessons you won’t want to miss.

118-Unit Waterchase Apartments In Humble, TX With Robert Martinez, Multifamily Investing Expert
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Robert Martinez about his acquisition of the 118-Unit Waterchase Apartments in Humble, Texas. Instead of going down the usual investing route, Robert has decided to do a recapitalization and use a five-year floating-rate bridge loan. He breaks down his unique free structure, the attractiveness of long-term ownership, and what it takes to navigate a pretty scary and unpredictable real estate market. Don't miss this masterclass in asset management and value creation.

105-Unit Rainbow Plaza Apartments In Anoka, MN With Nick Stageberg, Apartment Syndicator
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Nick Stageberg of Black Swan Real Estate, a dynamic real estate private equity firm, as they dive deep into the fascinating world of distressed multifamily acquisition. Stageberg unpacks the complex purchase of Rainbow Plaza Apartments, a 105-unit "Franken building" in Anoka, Minnesota. He reveals the strategy his firm used to navigate buying this distressed asset from a nonprofit, including the shocking detail of doubling the Net Operating Income (NOI) on the day of closing. The discussion goes tactical as they detail the highly unusual, but highly favorable, financing stack: assuming a low-rate Freddie Mac loan alongside a "Soft Pay Loan" from Mercy Housing with optional debt service. Discover how Black Swan structures their deals with the Secure Freedom Fund to deliver a secure 10% fixed rate of return to investors, proving that a mission-driven approach to affordable housing can be a powerful engine for profit.

414-Unit The Villas In Ohio, Michigan & Indiana with Lee Yoder, Multifamily Syndication Expert
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews Lee Yoder, a seasoned investor and former physical therapist, who shares his incredible journey from clinical director to successful syndicator, navigating the complexities of large-scale real estate. Discover the intricate details of his 414-unit "The Villas" deal spread across Ohio, Michigan, and Indiana, including the challenges of securing financing with five different loans, the unexpected due diligence surprises, and the strategies for building a high-performing property management team. Lee offers valuable insights into identifying unique opportunities in rural markets and the importance of perseverance in overcoming significant obstacles in multifamily real estate.

192-Unit Spring Forest In Mebane, NC With Percy Nikora, Multifamily Investor
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews multifamily investor Percy Nikora about his acquisition of the 192-unit Spring Forest in Mebane, North Carolina. He shares insights into the deal-sourcing process, mired with some negotiating challenges with attorneys. Percy also delves into the physical and financial due diligence, as well as how he brought in institutional money to boost revenue while mitigating risks.

20-Unit Westwood Townhomes In Wenatchee, WA With Karl Krauskopf, Apartment Investing Expert
Whitney Elkins-Hutten of PassiveInvesting.com interviews apartment investing expert Karl Krauskopf as he shares the story behind acquiring and repositioning the 20-unit Westwood Townhomes in Wenatchee, Washington. Karl reveals how local expertise and quick action turned a competitive listing into a winning deal, breaking down his three-day path from tour to contract, a $345,000 negotiation win, and his approach to value-add renovations that enhance both returns and livability. With candid lessons on financing, tenant relations, and ethical investing, he offers a grounded look at building success in multifamily investing through discipline, empathy, and long-term vision.