"Moment of Zen"

Balaji Srinivasan joins Erik Torenberg and Dan Romero on the Moment of Zen podcast to share his new theory of the Tribal Lens, why cognitive territories will gain increasingly more power than land-defined territories, why the US is no longer a beacon in the world, and Balaji strategy to fix San Francisco. Make sure you're subscribed to https://link.chtbl.com/moz to get notified when we release Part 2.Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.coWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TOPICS DISCUSSED:(00:00) Episode Preview(07:50) Cloud Cartography: If you don't control the cognitive territory. you don't control the lands(13:30) Sponsors: Vanta, NetSuite(17:30) Why people don't take the internet seriously?(22:30) The US is not a nation state(23:45) A civilization state(25:17) Why Americans should learn about India's history / India and the US are converging(30:50) Why a civil war doesn't seem realistic to people now(38:55) Where else should a talented person move?(41:35) Asia is the new global center,(47:10) Internet first, not America first(01:01:45) Software vs. Hardware(01:05:45) Elon and the Grey Strategy(01:16:40) Israel is looking away from the US for partners(01:19:00) The Tribal lens integrates both domestic and foreign politics(01:21:00) Will blue always win? (01:23:43) Making sense of the China meltdown story(01:34:55) How to fix San Francisco(01:50:30) Irrationality is an advantage(01:57:00) Building gray turf(02:03:00) Mapping the blues, reds, and grays in San Francisco(02:05:20) Dan and Erik debriefX / Twitter@balajis (Balaji)@dwr (Dan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@MOZ_PodcastSPONSORS: Beehiiv | ShopifyHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at https://www.vanta.com/zenNetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/ZEN and download your own customized KPI checklist. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On this episode, Erik Torenberg and Dan Romero analyze what Vivek Ramaswamy’s rise in the polls really means, where he goes from here, and we air Erik’s full interview with Vivek from this spring. Vivek discusses his transformation from founder to candidate, his views on Silicon Valley, his concept of meritocracy, depoliticizing corporations, and lays out his policy proposals. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zenMoment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.coWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TOPICS DISCUSSED:(00:00) Episode Preview(02:23) What is the excitement about Vivek really about?(05:00) Why don’t democrats nominate business people?(06:28) Who is Vivek’s constituency?(08:18) What happens in a world where Trump doesn’t exist?(10:20) Immigration stance differences between Trump and Vivek(14:57) Vivek’s anti woke platform vs DeSantis’ anti woke legislations(16:50) Vivek as a right wing Elizabeth Warren Civility(19:15) Is there a way for a republican to be cool?(22:45) Republicans want an attack dog(24:00) 2028 and beyond(29:55) Interview: When Vivek set his sights on running for president(36:20) Vivek’s presidential platform: Affirmative action, Climate, Fed, Drug crisis(44:11) Where Vivek overlaps/differs with Silicon Valley: free speech, DEI, SVB(51:20) How Vivek conceptualizes a meritocracy(58:00) How to remove politics from corporations(01:05:32) Silicon Valley should empathize more with the rest of the country?(01:16:35) Defining “woke”(01:22:40) What’s it like to run a presidential campaignX / Twitter@VivekGRamaswamy (Vivek)@dwr (Dan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@MOZ_PodcastSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Vanta | NetSuiteHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at www.vanta.com/zenNetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/ZEN and download your own customized KPI checklist. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dan Romero and Erik Torenberg discuss what is exciting in Crypto right now, covering friend.tech, Farcaster’s updates, PWAs, superchain 2a, and infrastructure improvements for more use cases. If you’re building a business and need compliance for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA, head to www.vanta.com/zen for $1000 off.Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.coTOPICS DISCUSSED:(00:01:36) How Dan is building Farcaster(00:02:39) Using Ethereum is expensive(00:04:14) Crypto and climate change(00:07:49) Dan's take on the buzzy new friend.tech(00:12:27) Friend.tech's smart use of a PWA + impressive growth(00:17:11) Coinbase has its own blockchain now(00:21:47) Are SPACs worse than Crypto's scammy retail stuff(00:24:21) Chamath and accountability(00:30:24) How will crypto get to a billion users?(00:39:11) The case for Farcaster and the future of social media(00:52:25) How much value can be captured by subscaled social networks?(00:56:51) Why we'll see startups move away from venture-backed business models(00:59:26) Most successful media company of the past decade(01:03:59) Crypto's regulations are a gray cloud over financial innovation(01:08:08) Opportunities to expand upside for people, from businesses to UBI(01:09:12) Crypto is not politicized(01:14:40) Genetics and IQ(01:24:04) The Sam Harris + Ezra Klein Charles Murray debate(01:32:48) Why this is the next major culture war issueRELATED EPISODES:Upstream w/ Erik Torenberg ft/ Sam HarrisSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0DeR2VZOjpnE9pQ9b3Om9S?si=u662cEDUTt6D27D09Jnk0wApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e10-sam-harris-on-populism-polarization-and-his-beef/id1678893467?i=1000614749192Upstream with Erik Torenberg ft/ Ezra KleinSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/36vTPPcpisMVXSgq9bnj1w?si=WEysQWc4RouTxd1hzNl1iwApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e3-ezra-klein-on-supply-side-progressivism-polarization/id1678893467?i=1000607892890SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Vanta | NetSuiteHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenVantaAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at www.vanta.com/zenNetSuiteNetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/ZEN and download your own customized KPI checklist. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mike Solana joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez to track the rise and ‘vibe shift’ away from the woke industrial complex, from social media algorithms and anon accounts, to media disruptions like Substack and Gawker. They discuss Peter Thiel's economic, political, and religious ideas and discuss his legacy. They also debate if the left really has lost control of culture or whether we’re just more siloed in 2023, and which GOP candidates draw on upstream intellectual ideas. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zenMoment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.coWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(05:25) Behind the scenes of Mike’s Peter Thiel interview(13:00) Mike’s hypothesis behind the waves of woke culture dominance since 1995 until today(15:36) Sponsors: Vanta, NetSuite(17:41) What explains the vibe shift away from identity politics today, if it is actually in decline.(25:51) Substack materially changed the discourse, i.e. Richard Hanania(29:32) The Feminist Critique of Snow White discourse on TikTok(31:50) Anon accounts(33:37) Has culture changed or are we just more siloed?(36:00) Hunter Biden discredits mainstream culture on the left and the right(39:27) The rise and (maybe?) fall of DEI in tech(41:47) Thiel's stance on economics, science and technology, politics, and faith(45:33) Is Thiel's religious argument based on a misread of the bible?(52:43) Do the neo-Nietzscheans actually have a constituency?(55:18) Which GOP nominees, if any, are influenced by intellectual movements?(1:01:31) How do intellectual ideas actually drive political power in the US?(1:03:31) What do people want in a political candidate(1:05:13) Autoerotic self-pardoning(1:08:00) Is Thiel backing away from the anti-woke cause(1:14:35) World War meme(1:15:30) Thiel's legacySPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Vanta | NetSuiteHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at www.vanta.com/zenNetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/ZEN and download your own customized KPI checklist. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Antonio Garcia Martinez is back from his travels, and joins Dan Romero and Erik Torenberg to dive into his current theory of ‘The End of History’. They also discuss the cancellation of intellectual figures like Richard Hanania, contrast the political situation in Israel with political polarization in the states, and discuss liberalism vs. religion. Towards the end, they talk about social media, crypto, Elon vs Zuck, and Sam Bankman-Fried. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zenMoment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.coTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(02:13) Elon Musk vs. Dustin Moskovitz(05:00) Decarceration in SF(07:53) What problems should we focus on for the biggest impact?(12:05) Waiting for Antonio and reflecting on his conversion(15:30) Moment of Zen: Who’s listening and why? (18:00) Behind the scenes at Turpentine network(19:43) Updates: Spindl and Antonio’s travels to France and Israel(21:27) Sponsors: Vanta | NetSuite(26:04) Mapping the left and the right in Israel vs in the US(34:15) End of history(37:10) Is Richard Hanania canceled?(39:50) The new Right(41:35) Liberalism LARPing(43:20) LindyMan(44:50) The movies(46:40) Why hasn’t there been new religions?(52:20) Christian vs Jewish narrative(56:08) Is Modernity a death cult?(57:10) How do we fix the birth rate?(01:04:40) Updates: Farcaster and Dan’s take on how we usher in a new era for social media(01:08:00) Crypto infrastructure companies(01:13:00) The underrated impact of Apple’s app store (01:15:10) What our interest in Elon Musk vs. Mark Zuckerberg at the Coliseum reveals about us(01:18:10) The story about SBF(01:20:00) Shkreli season (check out In The Arena)LINKS:Bruno Maçães, History Has Begun: https://www.amazon.com.au/History-Has-Begun-Bruno-Macaes/dp/1787383016Patrick Deneen, Why Liberalism Failed: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Liberalism-Failed-Politics-Culture/dp/0300223447Dara Horn, People Love Dead Jews: https://www.amazon.com/People-Love-Dead-Jews-Reports/dp/B09CFYVY3F/X:@antoniogm (Antonio)@dwr (Dan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@MOZ_PodcastSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Vanta | NetSuiteHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at www.vanta.com/zenNetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/ZEN and download your own customized KPI checklist. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Alex Kaplan shot to fame on Twitter last week for his thread on the LK-99 superconductor, and why it has the potential to be the most important physics discovery of our lifetime. Today he joins Dan Romero and Erik Torenberg to dig deeper into the LK-99 saga and its broader implications: why the material is so hard to replicate, the citizen journalist aspect and the democratization of science, condensed matter physics, a call for scientific ambition, and more. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zenTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(01:13) Introduction to Alex Kaplan, and how his superconductor tweet took over the internet(03:32) Why is the LK-99 compound so difficult to replicate?(06:52) The breakdown of superconductor properties (diamagnetism vs. superconductivity)(10:44) How does one even go and invent a new material?(13:53) Tracing the drama of how Lee, Kim, and Kwon published their papers(15:06) Sponsor: NetSuite(16:15) Cont. story of Lee, Kim, and Kwon(19:25) Andrew and Iris live-tweeting their replication efforts(22:08) The citizen journalist aspect(24:21) The democratization of science(25:41) Condensed matter physics(29:38) What’s most exciting about the LK-99 discovery(32:08) Observing the tangible impacts of virality on Twitter(34:23) The (im)precise process of creating the LK-99 compound(35:57) What are the implications, if LK-99 is a real superconductor?(42:06) What if superconductors made more efficient quantum computers?(44:03) A potential Kardashev scale civilization(45:23) The most interesting thing about the LK-99 saga for Alex(46:49) Comparable physics discoveries to the LK-99(49:18) Alex's request for scientific ambition: where should we be looking?LINKS:Alex’s viral X / Twitter Thread: https://twitter.com/alexkaplan0/status/1684044616528453633 LK-99 Paper (submitted by Kwon): https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008 LK-99 Paper (submitted by Lee and Kim): ​​https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037 X / TWITTER:@alexkaplan0 (Alex)@dwr (Dan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@moz_podcastSPONSOR: Beehiiv | Shopify | Vanta | NetSuiteHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at https://www.vanta.com/zenNetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Economist and writer Noah Smith returns to the podcast to talk to Dan Romero and Erik Torenberg about housing, politics, land use, and policing in California and beyond. Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more at www.turpentine.co or email [email protected]:(00:00) Episode Preview(01:07) Antonio is the Dennis Rodman(01:42) Noah’s new podcast with Turpentine: Econ 102(02:05) The left and right version of “it’s time to build” i.e. Ezra Klein vs Marc Andreessen(04:50) California skewed political identities(07:00) California vs Texas GOP stance on immigration(09:30) Should Gary Tan strategize from the left or the right, structurally(11:11) Can the Asian block become a machine in SF? In California?(12:50) Is LA better run than SF?(17:40) What’s the best-run city in the US(20:58) Sponsor: NetSuite(22:15) Best format for affordable housing in cities(26:30) California is a class society based on land(28:40) House-rich progressives in California(31:00) Prop 13, property tax, and SALT debates(39:30) The tide of YIMBYism(51:10) Effective building in Japan(58:00) YIMBY movement in SF lost because of crime(59:00) The future of San Francisco(01:09:00) Policing(01:16:00) WWII and the atom bomb(01:22:00) Will patriotism come back?(01:25:00) Biggest misconception about Japan?LINKS:Noah's Substack https://www.noahpinion.blog/Book Recommendation on Prop 13: Golden Gates https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Gates-Fighting-Housing-America/dp/0525560211X / TWITTER:@noahpinion (Noah)@dwr (Dan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@moz_podcastSPONSORS:Beehiiv:Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenNetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Marc Andreessen of Andreessen Horowitz returns to discuss his recent essays on AI, violence, and much more including: San Francisco, mandatory military service, Voegelin, and life extension. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zenCheck out our other interviews with Marc:Moment of Zen E1: on SBF/FTX, Twitter, and Open AI/Chat GPTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0smJY3xJXFhVsL0cX2BtVf?si=89cfd3ddc0434eb0Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/moment-of-zen/id1661672738?i=1000591411124Moment of Zen E2: on Elon Musk, Nietzsche, and America's Thousand Year EmpireSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0qzUqkt0rCIfVsbUw7eZ77?si=1f7eec7bc1954380Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/moment-of-zen/id1661672738?i=1000591713971TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(01:26) The evolution of human entertainment from epic poetry to NPC Tiktoks(06:50) Violence is a choice(11:00) True democracy mandates military service as a virtue(20:00) Can San Francisco be fixed?(31:00) Marc's empirical argument for AI(34:45) Sponsor: NetSuite(35:45) Where Sam Harris gets it wrong(39:37) Eric Voegelin's concept of Immanetizing the EschatonWhat happens to religion after AI?(52:50) What would Nietzsche say?(54:00) LLMs are already the subject of a religious war(01:03:30) What comes after liberalism(01:11:20) Men’s tailoring and the stripping of masculinity(01:13:50) Is Twitter’s influence the real world?(01:17:20) Is Left vs Right the central conflict of our time?(01:22:28) Life extensionTWITTER:@pmarca (Marc)@dwr (Dan)@antoniogm (Antonio)@eriktorenberg (Erik)LINKS:Marc Andreessen, Fighting https://pmarca.substack.com/p/fightingMarc Andreessen, Why AI Will Save The World. https://pmarca.substack.com/p/why-ai-will-save-the-worldEric Voegelin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_VoegelinBook: Regime Change by Patrick J. Deneen https://www.amazon.com/Regime-Change-Toward-Postliberal-Future/dp/0593086902SPONSOR: BEEHIIV | SHOPIFY | VANTA | NETSUITEHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.-SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-Are you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at https://www.vanta.com/zen-NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Writer and technologist Eugene Wei joins Dan, Erik and Antonio to talk about Twitter, Threads, and his views on remote work. We reference Eugene's writing a lot on the podcast and mentioned his recent piece, How to Blow Up a Timeline in last week's MoZ episode with Mike Solana (see links below). Listeners, if you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: netsuite.com/zenMoment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.coWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.LINKS REFERENCED:Eugene Wei, How to Blow Up a Timeline https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2023/7/6/how-to-blow-up-a-timelineAmerican Prometheus https://www.amazon.com/American-Prometheus-Triumph-Tragedy-Oppenheimer/dp/0375726268TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(01:03) Algorithm switch at Twitter(07:10) What Eugene would do as Twitter’s CEO(11:30) Signal to noise ratio in social media(22:00) Threads(37:35) Sponsor: NetSuite(38:50) LinkedIn(47:00) Improving Twitter: Ranked follower feed, restoring aristocracy, reversing war on Substack(1:10:00) Incumbents vs upstarts in social media(01:14:40) Graph portability(01:20:00) Centralization vs Decentralization of the space(01:25:00) UI analysis of Twitter vs. Discord vs. Slack vs Threads(01:30:00) Impact of Slack and minimizing meetings on the workplace(01:35:00) The downstream costs of remote work(01:49:30) Why tech is the worst industry to model out the effects of remote work(01:51:00) Office layout and productivityTWITTER:@eugenewei (Eugene)@dwr (Dan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@antoniogm (Antonio)@moz_podcastSPONSOR:Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenNETSUITE: NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Fan favorite Mike Solana, Editor in Chief of Pirate Wires, joins Erik, Dan, and Antonio this week to discuss Meta’s Threads, status, and the future of social media. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zenMoment of Zen is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more about talent and partnerships: www.turpentine.coWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(01:20) Threads vs Twitter(08:30) Who’s using Threads?(14:40) Threads evolving into something else(21:13) Threads’ growth(23:30) Elon and Substack(29:45) Ads on Twitter/Facebook(33:45) Fragmentation(36:05) Journalists(37:10) Telepath(38:00) Twitter since 2016(39:00) What the next election will feel like online(42:00) Future of social media(45:00) Whose status was affected(50:50) Distribution on Twitter vs Threads(53:22) Politics on social media(57:45) “Thetaverse”(01:00:03) What Elon should do now?(01:04:34) How Zuckerberg’s image has changed(01:07:20) Final predictionsLINKS:Zuckerberg Wages War https://www.piratewires.com/p/pirate-wires-twitters-final-boss (https://www.piratewires.com/p/pirate-wires-twitters-final-boss)How to Blow Up A Timeline by Eugene Wei https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2023/7/6/how-to-blow-up-a-timeline (https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2023/7/6/how-to-blow-up-a-timeline)TWITTER:@micsolana (Mike)@MOZ_Podcast@eriktorenberg (Erik)@antoniogm (Antonio)@dwr (Dan)SPONSOR: BEEHIIV | SHOPIFY | VANTA | NETSUITEHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at https://www.vanta.com/zenNetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, Dan Romero and Erik Torenberg discuss the Supreme Court's affirmative action decision, legacies and college athletes, the administrative state, and the right's victory in the courts. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Affirmative Action ruling(9:00) Affirmative Action hurts Asians(15:00) California as a case study(19:00) Downsides of Affirmative Action(23:30) Why not class based affirmative action?(28:00) Let’s get rid of legacies too(30:00) Why Dan is not a fan of Harvard(36:00) Gay rights and abortion(45:00) The right won the courts(51:30) Chris Caldwell’s “Age of Entitlement”(56:00) Dismantling the administrative state(1:05:00) Steelmanning the case for Affirmative ActionTWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@eriktorenberg (Erik)@dwr (Dan)SPONSORS:Please support our sponsors: Beehiiv: Shopify: NetSuite: SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen- NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zenNetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.- Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Alana Newhouse, the Editor in Chief of Tablet Magazine, joins Erik and Antonio on this week's episode. Avid listeners will recall that Alana's essays about Brokenism have influenced many heated discussions on Moment of Zen. Here Alana goes deeper into unpacking our present moment, institutionalism vs anti-institutionalism, distrust, Judaism and spirituality, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/UPSTREAMMoment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: Turpentine.coWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(04:00) Insitutionalists vs Anti-Institutionalists or Left vs Right?(07:25) What is the Borg? What are their values?(13:00) Skepticism of government(16:30) Sponsor: Secureframe(21:00) Untangling particular religious impulses, faith vs practice(30:56) Misinformation(32:39) Jewish notion of justice vs Christian notion of justice(37:08) Who is 'The West' now?(45:00) Divesting from current American institutions(52:00) Tech and religion(59:00) How Antonio got upsold on Judaism(01:01:00) American Jews a decade ago and now(01:07:00) Americans need to imagine a new world instead of stagnating(01:15:00) Saudi Arabia's Realignment(01:22:00) Revisiting the crux of the divideWEEKEND READINGBrokenism by Alana Newhouse, https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/brokenism-alana-newhouseDisinformation by Jacob Siegel, https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformationUs and Them by Liel Liebovitz, https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/zionism-liel-leibovitzThe Moses Option by Antonio Garcia Martinez, https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/community/articles/the-moses-optionWalter Mussell Read, The Arc of a Covenant https://www.amazon.com/Arc-Covenant-United-States-Israel/dp/0375414045TWITTER:@alananewhouse@tabletmag@MOZ_Podcast@eriktorenberg (Erik_@antoniogm (Antonio)SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuiteHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three monthsShopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenNetSuite (http://netsuite.com/zen)NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Katherine Boyle and Mike Solana join Erik, Dan, and Antonio to discuss whether a liberal arts degree is worth it and how to save San Francisco.Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.coWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.a16z Podcast: https://future.com/a16z-podcast/The a16z podcast is a lighthouse for current and future founders, breaking down the most important trends in technology.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(04:30) Recapping the first Moment of Zen fight(07:00) Is a Liberal Arts degree worth it?(010:30) The siren song of The Social Network(14:00) Finance vs Tech in the 2010s(15:35) Sponsor: Secureframe(16:40) 4 out of the 5 people on this episode got a liberal arts degree(21:00) Are elite schools still worth it? Are middle tier colleges worth it?(29:00) Are CS degrees necessary?(31:00) Zero sum: college vs vocational school(42:00) Mike Solana’s political future in San Francisco(44:45) How tech failed SF(46:40) How to talk about drug dealers, drug addicts, and recreational drug use(51:30) Wealth in SF, geographically(1:01:00) Housing(1:0400) Fentanyl will be a key issue in the upcoming election(1:08:00) Dangerous memes, aspirations, and not accepting market realitiesLINKS:Season of the Witch by David Talbot: https://www.amazon.com/Season-Witch-Enchantment-Terror-Deliverance/dp/1439108242Base Reality by Mike Solana: https://www.piratewires.com/p/base-reality-an-interview-with-grimes-6b3TWITTER:@KTmBoyle (Katherine)@micsolana (Mike)@MOZ_Podcast@eriktorenberg (Erik)@antoniogm (Antonio)@dwr (Dan)SPONSORS:Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three monthsShopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenNetSuite (http://netsuite.com/zen)NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.Secureframe (https://secureframe.com/)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Today, we have a special bonus episode: a discussion between Marc Andreessen, the co-founder of Andreessen Horowitz, and Anton Troynikov, founder of AI database company Chroma. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zen.This conversation originally took place on Twitter Spaces, where Anton and Marc talked about Marc's recent, provocative essay, Why AI Will Save The World. Marc explains why AI will not destroy the world but instead may save it. Towards the end of the discussion, Marc takes questions from a select audience of entrepreneurs and builders in AI. Given how much we've talked about AI and the various doomer debates on Moment of Zen, we felt that this conversation was too good to be missed. We're so thrilled that Marc, Anton, and a16z allowed us to republish it here. Both Marc and Anton have been on Moment of Zen before (see LINKS)Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: www.turpentine.coTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(01:39) Anton asks Marc why he wrote this essay now(02:30) Recap of AI History over last 80 years(04:05) Hysteria, paranoia, doomerism(06:00) Intelligence is the fundamental building block(09:47) Precautionary principle and nuclear technology debate(13:52) Recommendation: a16z podcast(14:43) Sponsor: Secureframe(16:04) The AI Race(18:00) China’s national strategic priority(22:53) Cold War dynamics(23:20) What should the government do?(24:00) Analogy Period: 2nd Industrial Revolution(33:51) AI hype cycle, speculation, investment(38:38) Problems AI can solve(50:00) Questions from audience members, including Beff Jezos + Amjad MasadSPONSOR: Beehiiv | Shopify | Vanta | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three monthsShopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenVantaAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at https://www.vanta.com/zenNetSuite ( http://netsuite.com/zen )NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.Secureframe ( www.secureframe.com )Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nadia joins Erik, Dan and Antonio to debate the different movements in tech and determine what they should be doing to achieve the impact they want to have. Nadia is a tech researcher (nadia.xyz.) and the author of Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software. Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: Turpentine.coIf you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zenWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(01:03) New Podcast recommendation: In The Arena(01:28) Why it’s important to break down the elite camps and their worldviews(02:51) Elite bracket breakdown(10:00) Technooptimism, AI, and regulation(12:08) Davos mindset versus revolutionaries(13:00) Why doesn’t tech support the arts?(15:00) Sponsor: Secureframe(17:00) Tech needs to tell a better story(21:42) Where does Elon fit into this framework?(23:13) Institutionalists vs anti-institutionalists (Elon, Sachs, Sam Altman, Thiel, Vijaya) (35:00) How does the tech worldview enter politics and public stewardship successfully?(39:00) Is Twitter an institution?(42:00) Antonio’s depressing statement(48:30) How the desire for high status in a digital world has affected local philanthropy(55:44) Who are the most high status people in the world? High status education?(01:04:00) Building parallel institutions(01:08:00) Nadia discusses her article about GitHub(01:15:00) What do American intellectuals get? Experts? Substackers?(01:17:00) Idea machinesTWITTER:@nayafia (Nadia)@MOZ_Podcast@eriktorenberg (Erik)@antoniogm (Antonio)@dwr (Dan)SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three monthsShopify ( https://shopify.com/momentofzen ) for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenNetSuite ( http://netsuite.com/zen )NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.Secureframe ( https://secureframe.com/ )Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year.More shownotes released in our Substack: https://momentofzen.substack.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dan and Erik discuss Apple's upcoming release, VR, the debt deal, nuclear energy and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(02:11) Apple headset(12:27) iOS vs Android(15:57) Sponsor: Secureframe(16:49) What Clayton Christensen got wrong(23:50) VR compared to crypto(29:00) What's the future of VR(38:55) Reflecting on Facebook's bets on crypto and VR(52:41) Closed vs open ecosystemsLINKS:https://patrickcollison.com/pollutionPlease support our sponsors: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.- Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Erik and Dan are joined by special guest Mike Solana, Editor-in-Chief of Pirate Wires (https://www.piratewires.com/) to discuss the recent AI congressional hearings, political polarization, Elon’s reign at Twitter, and much more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.LINKS:Mike Solana's Interview with Grimes (https://www.piratewires.com/p/base-reality-an-interview-with-grimes-6b3)Dan's sci-fi book recommendation: Delta-v by Daniel SuarezTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview of episode(01:44) On what Mike Solana would say to Congress about AI(08:30) Contrasting Zuck, Brian Armstrong, and Sam Altman’s approach to regulation(15:09) Recommendation: Upstream(15:35) Sponsor: Secureframe(16:05) AI doomerism is just marketing for big AI(26:25) Elon’s wins and losses so far as Twitter CEO(38:57) Taylor Lorenz Mythology(41:40) Twitter’s regime change // How the tables have turned. Muahahaha.(45:00) What we’d do if we were Twitter CEO(51:00) Evolution of polarization(59:00) Silver lining of polarization(1:05:00) Distinguishing Elon’s antics from his philosophy(1:14:00) Trump feels more familiar in 2023 vs. 2016(1:18:00) The right is adopting woke tactics(1:22:00) Social media and depression follow up(1:24:00) Is half of Gen Z non-straight?(1:28:00) Ellen Pao(1:34:30) Is Pirate Wires conservative media? (No)Please support our sponsors: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zenNetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.- Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Journalist and author Liel Leibovitz joins Antonio and Erik for a deep discussion that “solves all outstanding Israel issues once and for all.” They discuss what’s going on with Israeli and US politics, Israel’s foundational choice ahead, and why wokeness is not penetrating Israel. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.Walter Russell Mead, historian, pundit, and author is encyclopedic about politics, culture, and history from immigration to religion, literature to finance. Mead is one of our favorite guests on Moment of Zen. He also has his own show called What Really Matters, a new podcast from Tablet Magazine (whose editor in chief, Alana Newhouse, was also on our show). Every week on What Really Matters, Mead and deputy editor Jeremy Stern analyze the revolutionary changes upending American life and connect them to larger trends. Go to tabletmag.com/podcasts/what-really-matters or subscribe to What Really Matters with Walter Russell Mead on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.LINKS:Liel’s writings for Tablet: https://www.tabletmag.com/contributors/liel-leibovitzRECOMMENDED PODCASTS:Upstream with Erik Torenberg: https://link.chtbl.com/UpstreamUnorthodox from Tablet: https://www.tabletmag.com/tags/unorthodoxTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(03:06) Askhenazi vs Sephardic(04:14) Universalism vs Particularism(15:28) Sponsors: Secureframe | MarketerHire(37:08) Christian vs Jewish notions of Justice(49:28) Liel’s political evolution(52:42) Palestinians vs Israelis(1:00:00) Abraham Accords - Obama vs Trump approach to Israel(1:07:00) What do the left vs right of Israel believe?(1:12:00) What does Netanyahu want(1:16:02) Liel is Long-term bullish, short-term bearish on Israel(1:19:00) Israel isn’t dependent on U.S. anymore(1:29:27) What would Liel’s smartest critic say about this conversation(1:34:52) Future of America / Israel relationshipTWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@liel (Liel)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@antoniogm (Antonio)Please support our sponsors: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuiteHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three monthsShopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zenNetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dan and Erik discuss how Elon got coded right-wing, why liberals are more depressed than conservatives, crime and prisons. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.LINKS:Patrick Collison interviews Sam Altman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1egAKCKPKCkRECOMMENDED PODCAST:Upstream with Erik Torenberg: https://link.chtbl.com/UpstreamTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(02:48) Twitter’s new CEO and Elon(9:00) When did Elon become right-wing coded?(15:00) Contrasting Zuck and Elon(16:28) Sponsors: Secureframe | MarketerHire(18:26) Contrasting Elon and Sam Altman(23:00) Elon’s quest to increase “net truth”(29:00) AI race / live players(31:45) Accountability within private vs public sector(34:00) Facebook bull case(40:30) Jonathan Haidt’s anti-facebook case(45:00) Why depression is on the rise(51:00) Why liberals are more depressed than conservatives(59:00) Living in America is higher variance(1:06:00) Different approaches to curbing crimeTWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@eriktorenberg (Erik)@dwr (Dan)More shownotes released in our Substack: https://momentofzen.substack.com/Please support our sponsors: Beehiiv | NetSuite | Secureframe | MarketerHireHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months- NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zenNetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.- Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Secureframe has just released Secureframe Trust, a new product that lets you showcase your organization's security posture to build customer trust.- MarketerHire: https://marketerhire.com/mozMarketerHire is one of my favorite resources for growing startups looking to hire marketers. With 1000s of pre-vetted marketers across a dozen roles, whether you need help with growth, marketing, SEO, lifecycle, content, or any other aspect of growth marketing strategy. Over 5,000 companies already use MarketerHire to hire expert marketers on demand, ranging from top venture-backed startups to the most well-known Fortune 500s.Go to marketerhire.com/moz and use code MOZ to get your $1,000 credit for your first hire. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ben Smith is the co-founder of Semafor and author of the forthcoming book Traffic joins Erik Torenberg and Antonio Garcia Martinez for a discussion about the hostility between tech and media, what digital media startups got wrong, analysis of institutions like The New York Times, and what the future of media holds.Also, check out the debut of Erik's long-form interview podcast Upstream. He most recently interviewed Joe Lonsdale and David Sacks. Subscribe here: https://link.chtbl.com/UpstreamREFERENCES:Ben's new book: Traffic: Genius, Rivalry, and Delusion in the Billion-Dollar Race to Go ViralSemafor: https://www.semafor.com/TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro(4:00) Ben Smith’s book “Traffic”(9:00) Buzzfeed’s cultural impact(11:00) Regrets around the Steele Dossier(16:00) Sponsors: Secureframe | MarketerHire(17:30) Objectivity vs subjectivity in journalsim(21:00) Left wing vs right wing journalism(26:20) Tech media(30:00) Cambridge Analytica bullshit(34:00) Buzzfeed Uber controversy(37:30) Tech and media fall out(50:30) The root of tech vs media dissonance(1:06:00) Free speech(1:13:00) “The book is a eulogy to a rotting corpse that got what was coming to it”(1:16:30) Ads vs subscription(1:21:00) Future of mediaTWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@semaforben (Ben)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@antoniogm (Antonio)More shownotes released in our Substack: https://momentofzen.substack.com/Please support our sponsors: Beehiiv | Shopify | Secureframe | MarketerHireHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen- Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year.- MarketerHire: https://marketerhire.com/mozMarketerHire is one of my favorite resources for growing startups looking to hire marketers. With 1000s of pre-vetted marketers across a dozen roles, whether you need help with growth, marketing, SEO, lifecycle, content, or any other aspect of growth marketing strategy. Over 5,000 companies already use MarketerHire to hire expert marketers on demand, ranging from top venture-backed startups to the most well-known Fortune 500s.Go to marketerhire.com/moz and use code MOZ to get your $1,000 credit for your first hire.Thank you Graham Bessellieu for production. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Katherine joins Erik, Antonio, and Dan to discuss the hidden forces that shape founders, major divides in tech, and whether she should join our show as a cohost. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro(5:00) Fatherhood and founders(10:00) What is “Seriousness”(13:39) Sponsors: Secureframe | MarketerHire(16:00) Elon(20:30) Software and hardware(26:30) Are founders psychologically off?(35:00) SpaceX and Starship(43:00) Where would Steve Jobs be today?(48:00) Twitter and Substack(1:07:00) Florida is a COVID phenomenon, not a ZIRP phenomenon(1:17:00) Can we pressure Katherine join Moment of Zen as the fourth cohost?(1:18:00) Sending kids to Catholic schoolTWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@KTmBoyle@eriktorenberg@dwr@antoniogm*Please support our sponsors: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | Secureframe | MarketerHire*Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.- Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year.- MarketerHire: https://marketerhire.com/mozMarketerHire is one of my favorite resources for growing startups looking to hire marketers. With 1000s of pre-vetted marketers across a dozen roles, whether you need help with growth, marketing, SEO, lifecycle, content, or any other aspect of growth marketing strategy. Over 5,000 companies already use MarketerHire to hire expert marketers on demand, ranging from top venture-backed startups to the most well-known Fortune 500s.Go to marketerhire.com/moz and use code MOZ to get your $1,000 credit for your first hire.Thank you Graham Bessellieu for production. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

San Francisco advocate Michelle Tandler (@michelletandler on Twitter) joins Erik and Dan to discuss how Twitter has impacted her life, the state of SF politics, and how she would address the homeless crisis in San Francisco. This episode is a great companion to Episode 17 with Mike Solana, another passionate advocate for fixing the city of San Francisco. Michelle is a founder and writes a newsletter at notesfromthefront.substack.com. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen REFERENCES: Sam Quinones' book - Dream Land: The True Tale of America’s Opiate Epidemichttps://www.amazon.com/Dreamland-True-Americas-Opiate-Epidemic-ebook/dp/B00U19DTS0Sam Quinones' book - The Least of Us: True Tales of America and Hope in the Time of Fentanyl and Methhttps://www.amazon.com/Least-Us-Tales-America-Fentanyl-ebook/dp/B0932RRNVL/Matt Taibbi’s book - Hate Inc.https://www.amazon.com/Hate-Inc-Todays-Despise-Another/dp/1682194078/TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(04:45) Michelle’s friend group(11:00) Twitter shapes the real world(14:00) Trump derangement syndrome(16:00) Sponsors: Secureframe(18:00) Reading the news(22:00) The war on drugs(38:30) How to fix SF(50:00) History of media polarization(59:00) Michelle’s three point plan if she were mayor(01:15:00) Should Michelle run for office?(01:21:00 )Twitter reshaping politicsTWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@michelletandler (Michelle)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@dwr (Dan)Please support our sponsors: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | Secureframe | MarketerHireHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.- Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year.- MarketerHire: https://marketerhire.com/mozMarketerHire is one of my favorite resources for growing startups looking to hire marketers. With 1000s of pre-vetted marketers across a dozen roles, whether you need help with growth, marketing, SEO, lifecycle, content, or any other aspect of growth marketing strategy. Over 5,000 companies already use MarketerHire to hire expert marketers on demand, ranging from top venture-backed startups to the most well-known Fortune 500s.Go to marketerhire.com/moz and use code MOZ to get your $1,000 credit for your first hire.Thank you Graham Bessellieu for production. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dan and Erik discuss picking markets, NFT's, disinformation, and Fentanyl.Also, check out the debut of Erik's new long-form interview podcast Upstream. This coming season features interviews with Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Ezra Sacks, David Sacks, Katherine Boyle, Joe Lonsdale, and more upcoming. Subscribe here:Apple Podcasts: bit.ly/3z8TldLSpotify: bit.ly/40letd0We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Preview of episode(1:45) Crypto in a bear market(9:00) How to pick markets(17:45) Sponsors - Secureframe | MarketerHire(18:57) Why do NFTs matter(48:00) Disinformation(1:01:00) Social media fragmentation(1:10:00) Biggest U.S problems(1:13:00) How to fix the Fentanyl programTWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@eriktorenberg (Erik)@dwr (Dan)More shownotes and reading material released in our Substack: https://momentofzen.substack.com/Please support our sponsors: Beehiiv | Shopify | Secureframe | MarketerHireHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen- Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOZ during your demo to get 20% off your first year.- MarketerHire: https://marketerhire.com/mozMarketerHire is one of my favorite resources for growing startups looking to hire marketers. With 1000s of pre-vetted marketers across a dozen roles, whether you need help with growth, marketing, SEO, lifecycle, content, or any other aspect of growth marketing strategy. Over 5,000 companies already use MarketerHire to hire expert marketers on demand, ranging from top venture-backed startups to the most well-known Fortune 500s.Go to marketerhire.com/moz and use code MOZ to get your $1,000 credit for your first hire.Thank you Graham Bessellieu for production. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Our guest this week is Mike Solana, founder and editor-in-chief of Pirate Wires (Piratewires.com). We discuss the broken local politics of San Francisco, tech and media fights, how we should handle Tik Tok,and why AI enthusiasts are losing. We record our interviews with Riverside. Go to https://bit.ly/Riverside_MoZ + use code ZEN for 20%. We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Antonio’s EA rant(2:12) Local SF politics is changing(18:10) Tech vs. Media(26:30) Sponsors: Secureframe and Riverside(28:00 )Why does SF hate tech?(31:00) How to win over California(38:00) Institutionalist vs. anti-institutionalist(55:50) Taylor Lorenz(1:01:30) Tik Tok(1:03:40) Why Solana isn’t a libertarian anymore(1:07:55) Why is the onus on billionaires instead of government(1:14:20) Dan swears off Peter Zeihan(1:16:00) Anti-tech tech podcasts(1:18:20) AI criticism is coming from within tech(1:19:50) Aella(1:21:30) AI safety debate(1:32:00) What Solana is motivated byTWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@micsolana (Mike)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@dwr (Dan)@antoniogm (Antonio)More shownotes and reading material released in our Substack: https://momentofzen.substack.com/ SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenThank you to Secureframe for sponsoring (Use "Moment of Zen" for 20% discount) and Graham Bessellieu for production. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Anton Troynikov of Chroma, Flo Crivello of Lindy AI, and Nathan Labenz of Waymark and co-host of The Cognitive Revolution podcast join Erik Torenberg for a timely debate on the issues raised in the AI open letter which advocates for a 6-month pause on AI system trainings. Dan and Antonio will be back next week. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zenCheck out the debut of Erik's new longform interview podcast Upstream. This coming season features interviews with Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Ezra Sacks, David Sacks, Katherine Boyle, and more. We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.LINKS:Open letter: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/Scott Aronson blog post: https://scottaaronson.blog/TIMESTAMPS:(3:00) Explanation of the AI open letter(3:50) Anton’s skepticism of the open letter(7:00) Flo’s skepticism of the open letter(13:00) Nathan’s support for the open letter(15:39) Sponsors(20:00) Differences between Flo and Anton’s positions(30:00) GPT4 is still dangerous(38:00) Luddites/“Pausers” are on the wrong side of history(42:00 )Why not pause 6 months?(50:00) Anton and Flo debate robotics(56:00) What we’re all scared of with AI(1:21:00) Is there asymmetric risk with pausing or not pausing?TWITTER:@MOZ_Podcast@atroyn (Anton)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@altimor (Flo)SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Netsuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zenNetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-SecureFrame: www.secureframe.comSecureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Writer, VC, and podcaster Nic Carter joins us to talk about Balaji's bet, Operation Chokepoint 2.0, and the Fed's financial crisis.If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsPodcast Info:(0:00) Intro(3:00) Reflections on Balaji episode (10:00) Coinbase and SVB(14:00) Sponsors(15:00) Operation chokepoint 2.0(16:45) We find out the reason for Antonio’s circumcision(25:00) Crypto banking crisis(36:00) How much of crypto is new?(38:40) Main benefits of crypto (47:20) Finance is politicized (55:00) Defining a CDBC(1:02:00) Nic’s biggest crypto beef(1:07:30) Nic’s take on Balaji’s bet(1:12:30) Why crypto should vote republicans next election(1:19:30) We’re in a financial crisis caused by the fed(1:20:30) Our options for addressing the crisis(1:27:00) If we were kings for a day how we’d solve it(1:28:50) Nic would rather cut rates than raise rates(1:30:00) AI is the U.S.’s main hopeSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Netsuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Balaji Srinivasan tells us why he is making a $1M BTC prediction and discusses SVB, the financial crisis, the digital devaluation of the USD, and what comes next. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro(08:00) What happened with SVB(15:00) Constructive debate(59:00) Where we agree and where we disagree(1:07:00) If the U.S. implodes, there’s no where else to go(1:18:00) Responding to critics SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Netsuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Byrne Hobart joins Antonio, Dan, and Erik to discuss SVB, finance, and crypto.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro(00:45) Sponsors(01:28) Dan’s story with SVB(06:00) Byrne intro (Check out Thediff.co)(07:00) How Byrne identified SVB’s insolvency(15:30) How banking works(22:10) Fractional reserve banking(27:00) Banking on-chain(32:00) Understanding illiquidity(46:00) Housing market(53:00) How much can crypto recreate the financial system?(1:08:00) Crypto is financial system for digital native world(1:15:25) Are we at the end of (financial) history?(1:20:00) Finance is never solvedSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Anonymous founders of the Effective Accelerationist (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(03:00) Intro to effective accelerationism(08:00) Differences between effective accelerationism and effective altruism(23:00) Effective accelerationism is bottoms-up(42:00) Transhumanism(46:00) "Equanimity amidst the singularity"(48:30) Why AI safety is the wrong frame(56:00) Pushing back against effective accelerationism(01:06:00) The case for AI safety(01:24:00) Upgrading civilizational infrastructure(01:33:00) Effective accelerationism is anti-fragile(01:39:00) Will we botch AI like we botched nuclear?(01:46:00) Hidden costs of emphasizing downsides(2:00:00) Are we in the same position as neanderthals, before humans?(2:09:00) "Doomerism has an unpriced opportunity cost of upside"SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

"If you can't compete on history, compete on philosophy".We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro (14:00) Why knowing history makes you a better entrepreneur (21:00) Christianity’s moral innovations (30:00) America as culture exporter (38:00) Consumer culture and social progressivism (51:00) Egalitarianism eats the world (1:05:48) Equality of Opportunity vs Equality of Outcome (1:13:00) Equality of Opportunity IS Equality of Outcome (1:18:00) Wokeness isn't recedingSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Replit founder Amjad Masad joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez to talk about disenfranchised men, intellectual movements, problems with effective altruism and AI doomerism. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.(00:00) Episode preview(02:15) Replika caused Amjad to downgrade his view of humanity(03:15) Some men are down bad(05:15) Should we bring back monogamy?(08:15) If you’re not a top man, you’re screwed (phew)(13:00) Thought experiment(16:40) Antonio brings up Israel again (drink!)(18:15) “You don’t know what life is until you birth a child and bury a parent”(19:15) Unintended policy side effects(25:25) How to solve population crisis(27:45) WTF happened in 1971?(29:15) High and low time preference(35:15) Dating app preferences(39:00) Group narcissism(41:25) Groups that inbreed focus more on kinship(45:15) AI doomerism(50:45) from New Atheism to SJ to EA to AI Safety(01:00:15) Antonio calls out Eliezer Yudkowski(01:00:45) Criticizing Utilitarianism/Effective Altruism(01:10:15) Jesus vs Nietzsche(01:10:45) Bronze Age Pervert(01:13:15) Antonio recommends converting to Judaism(01:14:30) Why is EA so popular in Silicon Valley?(01:18:10) Why are EA just normie liberals(01:19:00) EA’s importance(01:24:15) The right way to think about alignment(01:27:15) Robert Conquest’s second law(01:30:15) Entryism(01:33:45) is right wing EA a thing?SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

We speak with Noah Smith about our modern cold wars with China & Russia, the new right, and tech’s cultural & political shifts. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) intro (01:50) sponsor (02:15) What determines a country’s success (06:00) Chinese collapse? (08:35) Why does Ukraine matter? (13:30) Can America be isolationist? (20:20) Are we in a Cold War with China? (25:45) Unpacking the new right (35:44) The future of wokeness (41:40) How Noah finds meaning in life (petting rabbits) (44:20) Noah defends his liberalism (53:00) American cope (57:00) Why American infrastructure sucks (01:01:00) Fake liberals (01:06:30) Why California is a one-party state (01:15:00) Tech’s political shift (01:20:00) Noah’s advice to tech peopleSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Brian Chau (@psychosort) joins us to discuss why ChatGPT is woke, how the arc of tech is centralization, and mental models for politics. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(01:00) Why is ChatGPT woke? (06:23) DAN (do anything now) (12:20) Who cares if chatGPT is a little woke? (16:00) OpenAI is just protecting themselves (23:00) Why is it so bad that chatGPT is a little woke? (27:00) Why not compete with openAI directly? (33:00) Why pluralism instead of truthism? (40:00) How can pluralism win? (42:00) Polarization is good (51:00) The arc of technology is centralization (01:12:30) Reconciling contradictions (01:21:40) Explaining The Cathedral (01:32:00) Why politics matters for techWatch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MomentofZenPodcastSubscribe to our newsletter: https://momentofzen.substack.com/SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Our friends Aarthi Ramamurthy and Sriram Krishnan join us this week as special guests. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro(02:10) Sponsor (Secureframe)(04:10) Has Aarthi always been more based than Sriram?(07:40) Attribution(11:10) Legitimacy(15:30) Brokenism vs Institutionalism(20:40) Attention as influence(27:00) Should Twitter eliminate trending topics?(29:30) Antonio’s cultural elitism(33:00) Low vs High culture(42:50) Who are the elites?(52:10) WWE & Kayfabe(01:02:45) Lex Fridman(01:12:10) Andrew Huberman(01:20:00) Bryan Johnson(01:22:00) Lindy(01:25:00) Against a la carte beliefsTwitter:@moz_podcast@sriramk (Sriram)@aarthir (Aarthi)@Dwr (Dan)@Antoniogm (Antonio)@Eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Amjad Masad (@Amasad), Flo Crivello (@Altimor) and Nathan Labenz (@Labenz) join us for a heated debate on the AI moment. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview of the debate(00:30) Sponsor(01:00) Nathan introducing our new upcoming AI podcast, The Cognitive Revolution(03:45) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI(08:20) Amjad’s take on the AI moment(15:00) Is chatGPT a step function change?(23:45) AI’s effect on coding(34:40) Amjad believes AI is underhyped(35:00) Bounties(53:15) What AI companies should VCs invest in?(57:30) Antonio/Flo pre-debate(01:00:15) “All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years”(01:01:00) Antonio’s AI skepticism(01:05:20) the inflection point is a jump in generality(01:06:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?(01:14:30) Segue into AI and crypto(01:20:00) Flo’s crypto skepticism(01:23:40) Antonio and Flo HEATED DEBATE(01:26:30) Dan tries to calm everybody down(01:27:00) Dan’s crypto perspective(01:29:30) Antonio’s crypto perspective(01:31:50) Amjad’s Bitcoin maximalist view(01:34:55) Amjad’s hilarious rant on crypto ponzis(01:38:00) Dan and Amjad debate Bitcoin/Ethereum(01:40:00) AI vs Web 3 brawl(01:52:32) Amjad’s AI predictions SPONSORS: Beehiiv | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) and Marshall Kosloff (@makosloff) of The Realignment (@therealignment) join Moment of Zen's Dan Romero (@dwr), Antonio Garcia Martinez (@antoniogm) and Erik Torenberg (@eriktorenberg) for a discussion on tech, politics, and media.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro(03:00) Political and class realignments(15:35) Trump vs DeSantis(25:10) Future of both political parties(28:55) Would Saagar ever get involved in politics?(33:00) Differences between Silicon Valley and DC(36:20) There will never be another Trump(39:30) Media’s impact on politics(55:40) Antonio thinks we stopped recording and goes off(57:00) who the f*** is Chuck Todd?(58:10) How media is evolving SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsSPONSORS: BEEHIIV | SHOPIFYHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three monthsShopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen(0:00) intro and sponsor(1:20) introductions (who the f are we?) (3:00) Antonio introduction (5:12) Dan introduction(6:50) Farcaster (10:10) Erik introduction (12:30) the life of the mind vs the life of the founder (16:00) Being in the arena as a requisite to comment (18:30) Why is the podcast named “Moment of Zen”? (20:20) Erik is the Johnny Appleseed of group chats (23:30) Group chat culture (26:55) Reforming institutions vs building new ones (29:30) Antonio’s intellectual evolution (30:40) Europe is behind, but Antonio prefers it (31:40) Antonio feels like a teetotaler who runs a bar (32:50) LARPs (34:00) Explaining Fukuyama (37:50) What’s the best functioning institution today? (39:10) Richard Hanania (42:30) We don’t have a grand unifying projects anymore (45:00) Should the China threat be the unifying narrative? (48:05) Taiwan (49:56) Explaining Zeihan (1:00:20) When shit hits the fan, what country do you flee to? (1:02:40) Why doesn’t Prince Harry get a paternity test? (1:04:00) Europe vs America (1:08:20) Dan is bullish on Europeans, bearish on Europe (1:11:20) “Everything except the startup scene is better in Europe” (1:15:19) Why is the US public sector so much worse? (1:21:35) Why are we doing this show? (1:22:32) “How about we just don’t get canceled?”(1:23:55) Teasing upcoming guests(1:24:34) Erik’s favorite ex-convict? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Amjad Masad, the founder of Replit, joins Dan, Antonio, and Erik to talk about AGI, religion, and conspiracies. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/UPSTREAMWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) - Antonio’s circumcision(01:20) - The future of Replit(06:30) - The future of coding(09:46) - The Steve Jobs Blackpill(12:00) - Will AGI lead to the death of humans?(18:13) - AGM thinks AGI dystopia is bullshit, religion for nerds(21:12) - Why is there a human need for “end of times” theory?(23:20) - Climate science is unsettled(25:55) - AGM swears he has no idea who Curtis Yarvin is (Who is Curtis Yarvin? - editor)(26:25) - Dan wrestles with the guilt of bringing another human into this cold, ugly world(27:00) - Amjad’s counter-narrative to the AGI dystopia narrative(29:30) - How can AI become consciousness if we don’t know what consciousness is?(32:15) - “AGM do you want to share your story with an AI girlfriend?”(32:58) - Amjad’s Palestinian background and his identity crisis(37:00) - Redpill moments(39:17) - The media never lies(40:35) - Russel Conjugation(41:50) - Comparing Islam and Judaism(43:44) - Judaism isn’t about faith, it’s about practice(51:00) - Transhumanism vs Ludditism(51:50) - Was The Unabomber a left-wing or right-wing nut?(55:15) - Ludditism never works, you can’t roll technology back(57:00) - Antonio’s redpilling(58:30) - Raising a family with or without religion(01:04:40) - Dismissing religion is the classic midwit meme(01:07:20) - History is a series of conspiracies(01:15:00) - Modern day true conspiracies(01:21:05) - “Are the frogs gay?”(01:22:50) - Why does truth matter?(01:30:40) - Prediction Markets(01:36:30) - The only places where truth matters: wars, elections, and marketsSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Part 2 of our extended conversation with Marc Andreessen, where we discuss Elon, Nietsche, and America's 1000-year empire. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) - Intro(2:00) - Unpacking the famous SBF quote(5:00) - Introducing Joe Henrich’s “WEIRD”(7:15) - Introducing Tom Holland’s “Dominion”(8:10) - Nietzsche’s criticism of Christianity(9:45) - Christianity’s inversion of morality(12:40) - Is Wokeness the logical conclusion of Christianity?(16:00) - The Christ narrative as the central narrative(17:20) - Are there any alternatives to WEIRD - Is WEIRD taking over the world?(18:20) - Antonio’s circumcision(21:30) - Why we can’t have Nietzschian morality in TV shows(25:30) - Kanye, Trump, Elon(27:30) - Introducing James Burnham and the rise of professional managerial class(32:30) - How Elon is a threat to the PMC(35:00) - Can other countries resist WEIRD?(39:30) - What would Balaji say about the case for America?(42:50) - Balaji’s Network State(44:20) - is social media going to fragment?(47:35) - America is consistent with the process of evolution(49:20) - We need more cleaving of the elitesSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Marc Andreessen is our guest on the first Moment of Zen, a weekly podcast where Dan Romero (Farcaster), Antonio Garcia Martinez (Spindl), and Erik Torenberg (Village Global/On Deck) discuss the latest in tech, business, and culture.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) All-in Tribute(02:15) What happens to SBF? FTX = Enron + Theranos(06:00) History of collapses in crypto(09:10) DeFi/Web3 actually works(12:35) Redemption arc for SBF/Caroline? Comparing with other frauds(16:37) In an alternate universe, what could FTX have become? Steelmanning FTX the business(23:30) What’s going to happen to Twitter?(25:20) How would we advise Elon?(26:20) Is controversy good for Twitter?(27:10) The killer app for Twitter is to dunk on your enemies(27:40) Bull case for Twitter(35:00) Tech civil war? The fight for free speech(41:15) Future of AI - open vs closed?(46:10) Intersection of AI and crypto(54:00) Role for gov’t regulation(59:50) 2023 PredictionsTWITTER:Dan Romero: www.twitter.com/dwrAntonio Garcia Martinez: www.twitter.com/antoniogmErik Torenberg: www.twitter.com/eriktorenbergMarc Andreessen: www.twitter.com/pmarcaSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three monthsShopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year.Thanks to Rob Pera and Molly Mielke for production Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.