Get Romantically Involved With Your Best Friend | Liv Boeree & Igor Kurganov

Liv Boeree (former poker champion, host of the Win-Win podcast) and Igor Kurganov (poker pro, co-founder of Raising for Effective Giving) have been together for 10 years. They're masters of creative conflict, inventors of the "hiss method," and champions of rational decision-making in relationships. In this candid episode, they share their unconventional wisdom and strategies for building lasting partnerships.

Modern Relationships is a podcast from Turpentine. Learn more: www.turpentine.co

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Follow on X:

Liv - @Liv_Boeree

Igor - @IgorKurganov

Erik - @eriktorenberg

Turpentine - @turpentinemedia

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Links:

• The Win-Win Podcast: https://winwinpodcast.com/
• The Passion Trap: https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Trap-Right-Unbalanced-Relationship/dp/1587361086
• Erik's substack: https://eriktorenberg.substack.com/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro and Preview

(02:21) How Liv and Igor Met

(06:04) Advice on Finding a Partner

(09:13) Friend Zone and Attraction

(13:02) Evolving Preferences

(15:03) Sponsor: Relationship Hero

(18:57) "Dumbbell Theory"

(25:43) The "Hiss" Signal

(27:53) Communication and Directness

(29:43) Relationship Rituals

(31:11) Variety and Self-Actualization

(33:16) The Passion Trap

(36:16) Thoughts on Children

(45:07) Longevity and Evolution

(47:57) Early Relationship Patterns

(50:17) Tone Policing

(51:47) Empowering Each Other

(53:34) Love Enables Choice

(57:16) Igor's Greatest Gift

(1:04:03) Identifying the Wrong Match

(1:06:14) The Future of Their Relationship

(1:07:54) Wrap