Mamamia Out Loud

Have you ever noticed that no one ever asks President Donald Trump follow up questions in interviews? Well, that’s exactly what US-based Australian journalist Jonathan Swan did in what has been declared ‘the greatest Trump interview ever.’ Jessie recaps. Also, why should anyone have kids? After watching Mike Birbiglia’s Netflix special, Jessie’s thinking it sounds like a terrible idea. Will Holly and Mia manage to convince her otherwise? Plus, are we cancelling Ellen Degeneres for not being nice? We discuss.  LINKS Trump’s interview with Jonathan Swan… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaaTZkqsaxY Mike Birbiglia’s Netflix Special, The New One… https://www.netflix.com/title/81062293 RECCOS Holly- Brooklyn on Stan… https://play.stan.com.au/programs/2677120 And Begin Again on Stan… https://play.stan.com.au/programs/376190 And Normal People on Stan… https://play.stan.com.au/programs/56885 CREDITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, and Jessie Stephens Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The word ‘despair’ would not be an overstatement when it comes to how Melburnians are feeling at the moment as they enter into Stage 4 of lockdown. The numbers are scary and restrictions are severe. So, how are Victorians coping?  Also, we need to talk about supermodel Gigi Hadid’s house. The Internet can’t stop yelling about how ugly it is, while Mia is convinced her taste is ‘impeccable’.  Plus, some positivity during the pandemic. We’re sharing the things that are making us laugh. Note: Jessie Stephens is dating Mia Freedman’s son, Luca Lavigne.  LINKS Rate us on ITunes via this link… https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mamamia-out-loud/id928350893 Rana Hussain’s twitter account… @ranahuss Gigi Hadid’s house… https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/gigi-hadid-shows-instagram-inside-her-home-and-gets-roasted-for-ugly-decor/news-story/1ad4c6654dad387685acb9ac1d6d81b8 RECCOS Mia- Mike Birbiglia’s comedy special on Netflix ‘The New One’... https://www.netflix.com/title/81062293Jessie- The Good Box… https://www.thegoodbox.com.au/ CREDITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, and Jessie Stephens Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're not imagining it, Australians are angry. The three Queensland women who crossed the border with COVID-19 have been met with enormous outrage. Should their pictures have even be shared? And are they the right people to blame? We discuss. Plus, is the most rebellious thing a young person can do these days… get married? And, we need to talk about an emotion we can’t seem to shake, no matter how old and wise we get: shame. Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Mia Freedman  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Mia wants you to watch Sorry For Your Loss on Facebook Watch  Go to mamamia.com.au/ladystartup to register and claim the Idea Kickstarter. Hurry, enrolments close this weekend on Sunday, the 2nd August, at midnight. CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Have you suddenly noticed black-and-white portraits in your Instagram feed? They'll likely be closeups of women's faces — some famous, plenty not — with a few names tagged and a caption that declares "#challengeaccepted". So, what is the challenge exactly? And why are celebrities and normal women alike taking part in it? Plus, The Bachelorette has been announced and... THERE'S TWO OF THEM. We’re the third country to do this, and in the other two markets, it hasn’t ended well. So, will these two women be pitted against each other? And, is the environmental load falling disproportionately on women? Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Mia Freedman  With thanks to Rebecca Sparrow.  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Make Alison Roman's famous stew by following this recipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaN3qsqXt38  Go to mamamia.com.au/ladystartup to register and claim the Idea Kickstarter. Hurry, enrolments close this weekend on Sunday, the 2nd August, at midnight. CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Julia Gillard might have one of the most talked about feminist political addresses of all time, but this past week, everyone’s talking about another one. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called out a fellow US politician in Congress after he called her a bitch, and women can’t get enough of it. Plus, did you think we were going to get through today’s episode without Mia talking about Taylor Swift? Nope. So why is this album so different? And where do our personal freedoms end, and our social responsibilities begin? Three Victorian women have gone viral over the past three weeks after they refused to follow Victoria’s COVID-19 guidelines. Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Mia Freedman  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Listen to folklore by Taylor Swift  You can subscribe to Me After You here: https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/ CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do not mess with the pregnant people of Melbourne. This week, it was announced that partners would be asked to leave hospitals two hours after the birth. A debate has ensued, and to talk about it we're joined by original Outlouder, the very pregnant Monique Bowley https://www.instagram.com/moniquebowley/ And, there’s a new generational war simmering away in offices, and it’s been kicked off by non-other than Chair Of The ABC and all-round media legend, Ita Buttrose. Ita says that millennials ‘lack resilience and need hugging’. So, does she have a point? Plus, the Bachelor In Paradise sex contract we can't stop thinking about. Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Mia Freedman  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Jessie wants you to listen to Mia's Lady Startup Story with Sally Hepworth: https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/lady-startup/ And watch Amy on Netflix.  You can subscribe to Me After You here: https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/ CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The world is now officially concerned about Kanye West. Over the weekend the rapper hosted his first presidential rally and he went viral. He spoke for more than an hour, and at times his speech was incoherent. He had no microphone. He wore a bullet-proof vest, yelled, cried, argued with people, reprimanded the audience for clapping and had 2020 shaved into the back of his head. So in these situations, what do we do? Plus did you know that it’s very easy to tell who’s a good person and who's not? There’s a theory that all you have to do is look at what they do with a shopping trolley.  And, eight Australian magazines closed yesterday, leaving the offering in your local newsagents… thin, to say the least. Will they be missed? Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Mia Freedman  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Holly and Mia want you to read Rodham by Curtis Sittenfeld  You can read Jessie's article on Kanye here: https://mamamia.com.au/kanye-west-rally/ You can subscribe to Me After You here: https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/ CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There’s a new bible for the unattached. So are you anxious, avoidant, or secure? And how can knowing these things help you find and keep love? Jessie is going to take us through it. Plus, we’ve never really seen a royal wedding like the one we saw over the weekend. Princess Beatrice married in a very small ceremony - the first royal wedding that was private in 235 years. So is this what you do when you’re a royal and your father is an alleged sex offender? And, with masks being made mandatory in Victoria, should we all be wearing them? Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Kee Reece and Holly Wainwright  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Holly wants you to watch Masterchef on Ten.  Learn more about Attachment theory here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRNpGsvzOlw CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What’s lesbian TikTok? Mia gives Kee and Jessie an explainer into why straight women are diving deep on Lesbian TikTok. Plus, in case you missed it, NASA discovered a new constellation in space and now everyone is freaking out about their star signs. Why? Because they’ve all changed. Is anything sacred anymore? And, Johnny Depp and Amber Heard; a severed finger, a bed covered in faeces and those allegations of domestic abuse. We look at exactly what’s been happening in the British High Court. Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Kee Reece and Mia Freedman  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Jessie wants you to watch Bachelor In Paradise on TenPlay and read Essays In Love by Alain De Botton CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today's Mamamia Out Loud is for you... If you’re away from the people who make you feel safe. If you’re at home feeling more alone than you’ve ever felt. If you’re at home feeling completely overwhelmed by what everyone needs from you when you have nothing left to give. If you had to lose someone without being able to tell them just how much they mean to you.  Or can’t stand by someone’s side when they need you most.  If you’re scared.  If you’re sick. If you’re going to work every day and feeling anxious If you've lost your job and have no idea what might happen next. On the show today we talk about all the amazing love we’ve seen in the Outlouders Facebook group, and we just want to let everyone know that they are not alone.Plus, you might have seen the words FREE BRITNEY around the place, and heard that all is well (again) with the iconic pop star Britney Spears. So what’s all that about? And… Mia has an insight about male beauty standards that has blown Holly’s mind and she needs to share it with you. Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Mia Freedman  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Holly wants you to watch Hamilton on Disney Plus. CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, it’s Monday and there’s a bit to discuss...In case you missed it, Prime Minister Scott Morrison is in trouble. He announced last week that he was taking a few days off. Then he was photographed slurping on a beer at an NRL game. So is our PM is entitled to a holiday during a global pandemic? And was it even really a holiday? Plus, why is one very high-profile celebrity couple talking about their extra-marital affairs on a global talk show? Yes, Mia is here to explain the Red Table Talk episode with Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith.  And Holly has a very stern message for non parents everywhere, including Jessie Stephens. Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Mia Freedman  Producer: Elissa Ratliff Recommendations: Mia wants you to watch In My Blood It Runs https://inmyblooditruns.com/  CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It looks like we were wrong about Kanye West working from inside the Trump White House to make the world a better place - really, he just wants the top job. But there’s something about the whole President Kanye thing that all the giggling and eye-rolling is missing…  Also, there’s a word Holly and Jessie say ALL the time that has become pretty problematic, and Kee has some suggestions for alternatives. Alright, guys?  Plus an Outlouder has a VERY relatable dilemma in need of some group therapy. Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Kee Reece Producers: Bridget Northeast and Jacob Round CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With almost five million Australians heading back into COVID-19 lockdown at midnight tonight, what lessons were learned the first time around? Melburnian Outlouders tell us how they’re feeling about a return to isolation, and how they’ll do it differently this time around.  Also, is it possible to tell how happy a couple really is just by looking at their social media? A flurry of celebrity breakups has Jessie and Kee convinced you can spot the stayers from the pretenders.  Plus, why do only women #sharethemic? The powerful social media movement that’s seen white women with significant followings share their platforms with people of colour is specifically for women, but why isn’t there an equivalent for men?  And Jessie has started watching one of the best TV shows of all time, and is stoked that there are SEVEN seasons of it. What other shows should we be rediscovering?LINKSShare The Mic: https://www.instagram.com/sharethemicnow/Mamamia Outlouders share lockdown stories: https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506?should_open_composer=falseDr Susan Carland’s thread on lockdown improvements: https://twitter.com/SusanCarland/status/1280386269634162688 RECCOS Mad Men Seasons 1-7 are on Stanhttps://www.stan.com.au/ CREDITS Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, and Kee Reece Producer: Bridget Northeast and Jacob Round CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nine public housing towers are being placed under hard lockdown in Melbourne and close to 3000 residents are being banned from leaving their homes for any reason at all. Why are those towers being referred to as ‘vertical cruise ships’ and what’s going on with people on the inside? Jessie explains. Also, Russell Crowe’s ex-wife, Danielle Spencer, recently said she prioritised raising their children over her own acting and singing career. Kee can relate and asks, is it possible to have both? Plus, what’s the difference between Call Out Culture and Cancel Culture? And are either actually useful? We discuss. LINKS Disclosure on Netflix… https://www.netflix.com/title/81284247 RECCOS Jessie- Last One Laughing… https://www.primevideo.com/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.d0b901fd-62cb-611e-21a8-ffb100a9f32f?ref_=dvm_pds_tit_au_dc_s_g|m_n7WTJNEVc_c438785679312 CREDITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, and Kee Reece Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to Quizzish, Mamamia’s brand new trivia podcast for people who think pub quizzes are a little bit... boring. Every week, host Kelly McCarren will be joined by two rivals who will go head to head to see who can become the Quizzish champion. And the best thing? You can play along too. Joining us in the studio for our first episode is Home & Away’s Ada Nicodemou and Lynne McGranger. So who will win? Are you smarter than Aussie soap's best work wives? Let’s find out.... HOW DO I PLAY?  Quizzish is a game that can be played wherever you listen to your podcasts. Walking the dog. On a road trip. At a girls' night on a speaker. Anywhere. HOW DOES IT WORK? There are three rounds, and inside every round, 3 games, and three questions per game.  We ask the questions and you write the answers down, then at the end of each game, we’ll have a score count and reveal who was right and who was wrong.For every correct answer, you’ll get a point, for every incorrect answer, you’ll get...well, nothing.  WHAT WILL I NEED? Some paper, a pen and a brain full of useless facts!  CREDITS: Quizzish is made possible by our partners at Gordon’s London Dry Gin. Gordon’s....Shall we? https://brand-au.shortlyst.com/gordons/14901  Quizzish is hosted by Kelly McCarren  With thanks to Lynne McGranger and Ada Nicodemou from Home & Away Quizzish is produced by Elissa Ratliff Head of Audio is Bridget Northeast  Fancy another competition? Take our 3 minute survey for your chance to win a $50 gift voucher by following this link: https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5621600/26df8e685012GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at [email protected] Quizzish is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here.  Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s Friday and Holly’s in the mood for a quick debrief on Meghan and Harry (also Jessie’s not here....). So what do the most recent court documents reveal about the couple?Also, UK comedian Sasha Baron-Cohen has a new target: Facebook. We know him as Borat and Ali G but his most recent prank has pushed the boundaries even further. We discuss. Plus, you’re not the only one feeling tired. So why do most of us have 0 motivation right now? Mia explains. LINKS The Spill podcast… https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-spill/ Social Squad… https://www.socialsquad.com.au/ The article in The Sydney Morning Herald about motivation… https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/zero-motivation-completely-exhausted-you-re-not-alone-20200629-p5577w.html The podcast Quizzish… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/quizzish/ The podcast You Beauty… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/you-beauty/ RECCOS Kee- The Babysitter Club on Netflix… https://www.netflix.com/title/81005407 CREDITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, and Kee Reece Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After reading Phoebe Matlz Bovy’s reflective article on ‘Lean in’ feminism, Mia asks, is the whole Karen meme that shames women for speaking up just another way to silence us? Also, what is ‘soft ghosting’? We bring in Mamamia’s social media executive and dating correspondent, Emily Vernem, who has some dating horror stories. Plus, how to argue with someone who has super LOUD opinions. An anonymous Outlouder needs some help, so it’s time for the ol’ Group Therapy. LINKS The Karen Meme and the Death of “Lean In” Feminism by Phoebe Maltz Bovy… https://arcdigital.media/the-karen-meme-and-the-death-of-lean-in-feminism-c9fa0cb38d0b The article ‘I Don’t Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People’ by Kayla Chadwick...https://www.huffpost.com/entry/i-dont-know-how-to-explain-to-you-that-you-should_b_59519811e4b0f078efd98440 How To Have A Conversation hub on Mamamia… https://www.mamamia.com.au/tag/how-to-have-a-conversation/ RECCOS Jessie-Dying For Sex CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Guest: Emily Vernem Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Our friend Jacinda Ardern has not been having the best of weeks. Once declared COVID-free, New Zealand now has 23 active cases. What went wrong and why are people blaming the most approved-of political leader in a century? We discuss. Also, Masterchef’s Jock Zonfrillo is the latest high-profile person to call out a troll by name. It’s a strategy adopted by many. But does it work? Plus, a check in on our Word of the Year.  LINKS Jessie’s article about Andrew Bolt… https://www.mamamia.com.au/andrew-bolt-news/ RECCOS Holly- LOL on Amazon Prime Video… https://www.amazon.com/LOL-Last-One-Laughing-Season/dp/B07L47ZYV8 CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“How come your English is so good?” is what so many POC in Australia often get asked. So, what are microaggressions? Writer Nama Winston joins us to share some examples of microaggressions she’s subject to all the time.  Also, the question about the female anatomy that men struggle to get right. We discuss.  Plus, what did Jameela Jamil say about Kim Kardashian that got all three hosts fired up?  LINKS Nama Winston’s article on microaggressions… https://www.mamamia.com.au/microaggressions/ Officework’s Noteworthy article on school hacks… https://www.officeworks.com.au/campaigns/noteworthy/10-best-school-life-hacks-for-kids-student-organisation Mamamia’s article on how many holes a cis-female has… https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-many-holes-do-women-have/ Kim Kardashian’s Instagram video… https://www.instagram.com/p/CBw_u1HA_uM/ Jameela Jamil’s instagram post… https://www.instagram.com/p/CB06mijjcaJ/ RECCOS Jessie- The podcast The Daily’s episode ‘ The Epidemic of Unemployment’... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/podcasts/the-daily/unemployment-coronavirus-pandemic.html And The podcast The Daily’s episode ‘ The Voters Trump is Losing’... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/podcasts/the-daily/biden-poll-trump-election-2020.html CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In case you’ve missed it, the men’s world number one tennis player, Novak Djokovic, decided to organise a tennis tournament and now he has COVID-19. Here’s why Djokovic is making Mia “puff”. Also, some mums haven’t got the memo that we’re all trying to love our bodies. We unpack a listener dilemma.  Plus, former High Court judge Dyson Heydon, singer Justin Bieber, and comedian Chris D’Elia have all been in the news this week. Are we witnessing a new wave of the Me Too movement? If so, why now?  RECCOS Mia- The Atlantic piece about the Romanian orphans… https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/612253/ CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Restrictions are being reintroduced in Victoria and we need an old-fashioned COVID-19 check in. What’s the situation, and should Australians be nervous?  Also, Mia says that this week’s episode of No Filter is one of her all time favourites. So, who is Narelda Jacobs? Plus, the government is planning to double the cost of Arts degrees. What does that actually mean? And… should we care? And finally, an anti-recommendation from Jessie. 365 Days is the sexy Netflix movie you really mustn't watch.  LINKS The Mamamia Outloud quiz… https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-quiz/ The No Filter episode with Narelda Jacobs… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/narelda-jacobs-no-filter/ Narelda Jacobs’ instagram account… https://www.instagram.com/narelda_jacobs/ THE ANTI RECCO Jessie: The movie 365 Days on Netflix… https://www.netflix.com/title/81245964 CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wouldn’t it be nice to permanently live in trackies and activewear? Apparently, the pandemic is changing fashion and beauty trends. But how? Mia explains. Also, the host of The Spill Kee Reece tells us all about her celebrity theory: Could Kim Kardashian and Kanye West be the most effective social change-making celebrities of all? Plus, it’s episode 500 of Mamamia Out Loud! We’re the longest running all-women podcast in Australia and we want to celebrate. So, Lem and Jessie came up with a very important quiz to determine: Which Mamamia Out Loud host are you? LINKS The Mamamia Outloud quiz… https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-quiz/ The Washington Post article ‘5 ways the pandemic is changing fashion and beauty trends’ … https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/15/fashion-beauty-trends-coronavirus/ The Spill podcast… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-spill/ RECCOS Jessie- The BBC article “Red Sea Diving Resort: The holiday village run by spies”... https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-43702764 CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Why are female celebrity chefs such as Poh Ling Yeow, Laura Sharrad, and Emelia Jackson copping so much heat for being cocky, smug, and overconfident? Holly fills us in on the life lessons we can learn from Australia’s TV show MasterChef. Also, Jessie wants to talk about foxes. According to a piece in the Sydney Morning Herald, at least three people attempted to pat a fox on a university campus over the weekend and unsurprisingly they were… bitten. The urgent question is: would you ever pat a fox? Plus, one of the pieces that’s been resonating most on Mamamia this week is about grief. It was written by our Executive Editor Leigh Campbell who lost her father around a month ago. Leigh wonders, why is it that people don’t really want you to talk about your loved one who died? LINKS Masterchef Australia on 10… https://10play.com.au/masterchef The book ‘Untamed’ by Glennon Doyle… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52129515-untamed The Sydney Morning Herald piece about the fox… https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/i-gave-it-a-pat-and-he-chomped-my-hand-students-bitten-by-fox-at-unsw-20200616-p5531l.html The TV series Fleabag on Amazon Prime Video… https://www.amazon.com/Fleabag-Season-1/dp/B01J4SSP6E Leigh Campbell’s piece 'People don’t really want you to talk about your loved one who died.'... https://www.mamamia.com.au/talking-about-grief/ Elizabeth Gilbert on No Filter… https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/when-liz-gilbert-fell-in-love-with-rayya/ Si mi Polonsky on No Filter… https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/simi-polonsky-thought-she-knew-what-her-life-was-g/ RECCOS Mia- Antipodes Hosanna H2O Intensive Skin-plumping Serum… https://bit.ly/2US2VOt CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In case you missed it, this week the film ‘Gone with the Wind’ and Chris Lilley’s comedy sketch shows were removed from their streaming platforms. Are we witnessing the “book-burning of the digital age”?  Also, we have a listener dilemma all about a woman who loves her husband very much. But she’d also like to have sex with other women.  Plus, why has Meghan Markle allegedly broken up with her best friend? We explain. LINKS Michael Idato’s article in The Sydney Morning Herald…. https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/why-there-s-far-more-at-risk-than-not-seeing-fawlty-towers-again-20200612-p5523p.html The movie 12 Years a Slave on Amazon Prime… https://www.amazon.com/12-Years-Slave-Benedict-Cumberbatch/dp/B00ICSVLPA RECCOS Jessie- The podcast Rabbit Hole… https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, William Callaghan, a 14-year-old boy with autism, went missing during a bushwalk with his father. After two days and a monumental rescue effort, he was found. We discuss why this story touched so many Australians.  Also, “how do I win the battle against The Chair?”. Host of the You Beauty podcast, Leigh Campbell, wants some answers.  Plus, we are all very well-acquainted with procrastination. So is it really possible to beat procrastination with a five second trick?  LINKS The book ‘The 5 Second Rule’ by Mel Robbins… https://www.amazon.com.au/Second-Rule-Surprisingly-Simple-Courage/dp/1682612384 Tim Urban’s blog ‘Wait But Why’ on procrastination… https://waitbutwhy.com/2013/10/why-procrastinators-procrastinate.html Tim Urban’s Ted Talk… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arj7oStGLkU RECCOS The movie Booksmart on iTunes… https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/booksmart/id1463525201 CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What do Black Lives Matter activists mean when they say let’s ‘defund the police’? Holly’s here to explain what the movement is all about, who’s already doing it, and whether it might also work here in Australia.  Also, how far can a company go when it comes to a dress code? From weighing people, to instructing employees how to wear their hair, we discuss.  Plus, what is a TERF and why is Harry Potter cancelled? Mia goes through J.K. Rowling’s most recent comments against transgender people. LINKS The Quicky episode featuring Stan Grant… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/police-profiling-stan-grant/ Mamamia’s explainer on ‘defund the police’... https://www.mamamia.com.au/defund-the-police-australia/ A New York Times explainer article on the notion of ‘defunding the police’... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/us/what-does-defund-police-mean.html RECCOS Mia- Love Life on Stan… https://www.stan.com.au/watch/love-life?gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvYna4Mb26QIVxA0rCh2oAArkEAAYASAAEgJEx_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“All Lives Matter” - it’s a phrase that you might have seen peppered in the comment sections of news articles, images and videos across social media. So where did the phrase come from, and how do you talk to someone who won’t stop saying it? What makes you “Pufferfish”? In her most recent stand up special for Netflix, Hannah Gadsby jokes about the banal things that make her arc up just like a Pufferfish. Plus, you might have seen a story circulating on socials about a popular YouTuber Myka Stauffer and her husband James who said they were ‘re-homing’ their son Huxley, who was adopted from China in 2016. The family made money off Huxley and his adoption journey, but now have admitted they aren’t the right fit for the young boy. The internet pile-on was swift, but was it justified? LINKS How to have a conversation with someone who says “All Lives Matter” https://bit.ly/conversation-all-lives  Hannah Gadbsy “Douglas” https://bit.ly/douglas-trailer  RECCOS “Becoming” documentary about Michelle Obama https://bit.ly/becomingdoco  "Becoming" documentary music on Spotify  https://bit.ly/becoming-netflix-music  Rachael Cassela’s article on Mamamia https://bit.ly/carrier-screening Get Me Pregnant podcast https://bit.ly/get-me-pregnant CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Elise Cooper CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page - https://bit.ly/outloud-facebook  Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You’ve probably seen those black boxes popping up on Instagram. Jessie explains how this form of social media activism came about and why it’s hitting a sensitive nerve with so many people. Also, Trump would do ANYTHING for a good photo op. So, what was behind that picture of him at St. John’s church in Washington DC? And we’re five months out for the election. Does all this chaos signal the demise of Trump? We discuss. Plus, a listener dilemma from a mum whose 16 year old daughter is being bullied by her manager. Should she get involved? LINKS Funds recommended by Amanda Fotheringham: The Minnesota Freedom Fund…https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/donate The George Floyd Memorial Fund...https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd Reclaim the Block Fund...https://secure.everyaction.com/zae4prEeKESHBy0MKXTIcQ2… The Black Visions Collective...https://secure.everyaction.com/4omQDAR0oUiUagTu0EG-Ig2 The Louisville Community Bail Fund...https://actionnetwork.org/f…/louisville-community-bail-fund/ The NAACP Legal Defense Fund…https://org2.salsalabs.com/…/p/sal…/donation/common/public/… The Justice for Floyd petition.... https://www.change.org/p/mayor-jacob-frey-justice-for-george-floyd RECCOS Holly: Hi Fidelity on ABC’s iview… https://iview.abc.net.au/show/high-fidelity And,  Influential women of colour to follow: Elaine Walteroth on instagram… https://www.instagram.com/elainewelteroth/?hl=en Ava Duvernay… https://www.instagram.com/ava/ Rachel Cardle… https://www.instagram.com/rachel.cargle/ Yassmin Abdel-Magied… https://www.instagram.com/yassmin_a/ Rachael Sarra… https://www.instagram.com/sar.ra__/ Layla Thee Ancestress… https://www.instagram.com/laylafsaad/ Rachel Ricketts… https://www.instagram.com/iamrachelricketts/ Fallon Gregory… https://www.instagram.com/fallon.gregory/ CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The US is alive with protests following the death of George Floyd at the hands of a white police officer. In this episode, we speak to Kee Reece about what it feels like to be told you’re “not allowed to be angry” when black men and women are being killed because of the colour of their skin. We also speak to Gamilaroi activist Amanda Fotheringham about the parallels that can be drawn between the US and Australia when it comes to racially motivated violence.  And for a complete change of tone - Kate Middleton is pissed off. A story was published in posh British magazine Tatler all about The Duchess of Cambridge, and the Palace has called the article “sexist” and “woman-shaming”. Are we... missing something?  LINKS Kee Reece's instagram account... https://www.instagram.com/keereece/ Amanda Fotheringham's instagram account... https://www.instagram.com/aloufo92/ The podcast The Spill... https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-spill/ Elaine Walteroth on instagram… https://www.instagram.com/elainewelteroth/?hl=en Amanda Fotheringham’s piece with Mamamia …. https://www.mamamia.com.au/stolen-generations/ The article ‘I Fit the Description’ which Jessie sent to Kee… https://bit.ly/3gKslXU Funds recommended by Amanda Fotheringham: The Minnesota Freedom Fund…https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/donate The George Floyd Memorial Fund...https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd Reclaim the Block Fund...https://secure.everyaction.com/zae4prEeKESHBy0MKXTIcQ2… The Black Visions Collective...https://secure.everyaction.com/4omQDAR0oUiUagTu0EG-Ig2 The Louisville Community Bail Fund...https://actionnetwork.org/f…/louisville-community-bail-fund/ The NAACP Legal Defense Fund…https://org2.salsalabs.com/…/p/sal…/donation/common/public/… Mamamia’s article on Aboriginal deaths in custody… https://mamamia.com.au/aboriginal-deaths-in-custody/ The book So You Want To Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo… https://www.amazon.com.au/You-Want-Talk-About-Race/dp/1580056776 The book The Dark Emu by Bruce Pascoe… https://www.booktopia.com.au/dark-emu-bruce-pascoe/book/9781921248016.html The book Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25489625-between-the-world-and-me The book Beloved by Toni Morrison… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25489625-between-the-world-and-me Aboriginal Legal Services… https://www.alsnswact.org.au/ The Justice for Floyd petition.... https://www.change.org/p/mayor-jacob-frey-justice-for-george-floyd Tatler Magazine’s cover featuring Kate Middleton… https://www.tatler.com/article/the-duchess-of-cambridge-is-the-julyaugust-cover RECCOS Mia, Jessie and Holly- Hannah Gadsby’s show Douglas… https://www.netflix.com/title/81054700 CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“An African American is threatening my life”. This week, a video of a woman named Amy Cooper accusing a black man named Christian Cooper of threatening her has gone viral. At the same time, two other names have been circulating on social media: George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery. There is an interesting thread tying all three cases together. We discuss.  Also, do you make quiet decisions or noisy decisions? It turns out, there’s a ‘right’ answer.  Plus, Khloe Kardashian has changed her face and the internet can’t stop talking about it. But our ‘woke’ new world is forcing us to question ourselves and ask, is it ever OK to openly discuss a woman’s face? LINKS Christian Cooper’s viral video… https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/26/nyregion/amy-cooper-dog-central-park.html The show Years and Years on SBS on Demand… https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/years-and-years Khloe’s face change… https://www.instagram.com/p/CAgYA12BRqi/ The Spill’s podcast episode on Khloe Kardashian… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-spill/khloe-kardashian-photo/ RECCOS Mia- Famous Youtuber Mark Rober… https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1kMZp36IQSyNx_9h4mpCg Holly- This Glorious Mess podcast episode about Andrew’s daughter… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/this-glorious-mess/ CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

US talk show host  Jimmy Fallon is the latest person to be slammed for a historic blackface incident which took place nearly 20 years ago. So, if you’re a public figure in 2020, should you just go ahead and confess to everything you’ve ever done wrong? Or just hold your breath until someone else finds it?  Also, the Internet has given birth to the ‘Wine Mum’. Is this identity problematic? Or actually quite feminist? We discuss. Plus, actress and comedian Celeste Barber ended up raising $51 million for the NSW Rural Fire Service during Australia’s bushfire crisis. The Supreme court ruled that the donated money could not be given directly to volunteers, victims or shared with other charities. What can we learn from this? LINKS The Atlantic’s article on ‘Wine Mums’... https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2020/05/wine-moms-explained/612001/ The Bookclub podcast episode with Paulina Simons… https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-book-club/paullina-simons/ RECCOS Holly- The Quicky’s episode on Postlockdown… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/post-lockdown-your-office-has-new-rules/ Jessie- The book Tully by Paulina Simons… https://www.booktopia.com.au/tully-paullina-simons/book/9780006490012.html And,  Holly’s book ‘I Give My Marriage A Year’... https://www.booktopia.com.au/i-give-my-marriage-a-year-holly-wainwright/book/9781760789008.html CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After teasing the audience about it for weeks, radio host Kyle Sandilands pulled a prank about having a serious health condition on the TV show 60 Minutes and people were furious. Should we expect more from a news program? And what is it about Kyle that so many Australians find appealing? Also, dubbed ‘generation boomerang’, 331,000 kids have moved back in with their parents because of COVID-19. Could this change in living arrangements be a good thing? We discuss.  Plus, what’s Trump planning to do next? Time for Mia’s US check-in. LINKS The article about the ‘Boomerang Generation’... https://bit.ly/36qk7z8 No Filter with Amelia Lester… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/check-in-with-amelia-lester/ RECCOS Mia- Little Fires Everywhere on Amazon Prime… https://bit.ly/2XvnZLa And, Mark Maron’s WTF interview with Lynn Shelton… http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/in-memoriam-remembering-lynn-shelton CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When a raunchy female-led dating podcast named ‘Call Her Daddy’ stopped dropping its weekly episodes, fans knew something was up. It turns out, hosts Alexandra Cooper and Sofia Franklyn are having a major dispute with each other and the company that owns their podcast. Mia unpacks this pod drama. Also, we were all scared at first. The fear evolved into tiredness and we’re now experiencing self-loathing as a result of failing to do the things we set out to do during lockdown. Are you sharing Jessie’s quarantine thoughts? Plus, are you an ‘asker’ or a ‘guesser’? We discuss. This episode of Mamamia Out Loud is brought to you by The Virtual Knockoff. Head to https://www.boozebud.com/mamamia for 10% off and free shipping to get your knock off drinks sorted. LINKS Call Her Daddy podcast… https://podtail.com/en/podcast/call-her-daddy/ RECCOS Mia- True Crime Conversation’s podcast episodes about Catherine and David Birnie… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/true-crime-conversations/david-and-catherine-birnie/ Jessie- Tarte Shape Tape Concealer… https://www.sephora.com.au/products/tarte-shape-tape-contour-concealer/v/8b-porcelain-beige Holly- Saturday Sport Shorts on Mamamia’s Facebook page… https://www.facebook.com/142149825944/videos/248629992865917  CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia, Elise Cooper and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In an article published on Mamamia, Michaela Banks writes “As the parent of a child with a disability, Ann Marie Smith's death keeps me up at night."’. Ann Marie, 54, had cerebral palsy and required full-time care. It is alleged that she spent the final year of her life in a cane woven chair, malnourished and with no assistance when it came to her basic human needs. What can we learn from her devastating death? Also, how can an Andy bear living with a Hamish (or a Jessie)? In an interview with Jessie, Andy Lee recoiled in horror upon seeing her old parking tickets stashed on her car’s dashboard, and odd socks on her feet. So, if you’re a Hamish, and your partner is an Andy, how do you ensure you don’t drive each other mad? Plus, one of our listeners wrote in with a dilemma about seeing a workmate’s child posting inappropriate content on Tik Tok. Should she tell the child’s mum? We deliberate in a very awkward Group Therapy.  This episode of Mamamia Out Loud is brought to you by The Virtual Knockoff. Head to https://www.boozebud.com/mamamia for 10% off and free shipping to get your knock off drinks sorted. LINKS Michaela Bank’s story about Ann Marie… https://www.mamamia.com.au/anne-marie-smith/ Jessie- ABC’s The Pineapple Project podcast… https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/the-pineapple-project/the-holy-grail-of-connection/12253742 Mia- Cheap hair dryers including this Luna one…. https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/85301/luna-2200w-hair-dryer RECCOS Holly- Mia’s No Filter interview with Glennon Doyle… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/glennon-doyle-untamed/ CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A global pandemic, a crashing economy, and social isolation have created a perfect storm for conspiracy theories. Some influencers and celebrities are playing a key role in undermining the mainstream media. So, why are ‘The Media’ suddenly the bad guys? Also, if there’s anything singer Justin Bieber regrets, it’s having had confusing (and potentially hot) sex in his youth before committing to his now wife Hayley. What’s our biggest sex regret? We discuss. Plus, should we resolve to do less now that we’re allowed to do more again?  This episode of Mamamia Out Loud is brought to you by The Virtual Knockoff. Head to https://www.boozebud.com/mamamia for 10% off and free shipping to get your knock off drinks sorted LINKS Andrew’s interview with Mia on No Filter… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/when-andrew-met-anne-a-sons-story/ Normal People TV series on Stan… https://www.stan.com.au/watch/normal-people The Virtual Knockoff with Andy Lee… https://www.facebook.com/mamamia/videos/2284343731868480 The mums loving iso article… https://bit.ly/2LG8sm8 RECCOS Jessie- The article ‘Why I’ve Never Believed in Believe Women’ by Helen Lewis... https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/05/believe-women-bad-slogan-joe-biden-tara-reade/611617/ Holly- WTF with Marc Maron featuring Cate Blanchett… http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-1122-cate-blanchett And The Split podcast… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-split/ Mia- Mrs. America on iTunes… https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/mrs-america-season-1/id1503594450 CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, we learned that international travel might not “return to normal” until 2023. What will be the impact long term? And what does this mean when your family lives overseas? And details about the next season of The Crown have been released, and there’s one big moment in the whole Charles-Diana doomed love affair story that you’re NOT going to see - so what was ‘tampongate’?  Plus, what do you do when your partner wants kids but you’ve changed your mind? We tackle a group therapy from an Outlouder who is facing that exact dilemma. This episode of Mamamia Out Loud is brought to you by Readly. Get your one month free by signing up via www.readly.com/mamamiaoutloud LINKS “Put Tampongate in ‘The Crown’, You Cowards”, The Cut https://bit.ly/tampongate  Covid advice for travelers from Australian Federal Government - https://bit.ly/2WVWcU6  ABC News Breakfast interview about international travel - https://bit.ly/travel2023  Sign up to our “Coping In The Time Of COVID Newsletter” https://mamamia.com.au/newsletter/  RECCOS Jessie: Friday Knock Off with Andy Lee https://bit.ly/virtualknockoff  Mia: “Come: A Memoir” by Rita Therese https://bit.ly/comememoir  Holly: Chrissy Teigen’s One-Pan Pasta Puttanesca https://bit.ly/onepanpasta  CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Elise Cooper and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Forever. That’s how long Twitter is letting its employees work from home as of today. We ask, is that necessarily a good thing? Also, “Don’t be too loud”, “don’t take up so much space”, “ don’t be too ambitious”. Could Glennon Doyle’s book Untamed be considered the new feminist manifesto? Plus, Normal People is Stan’s TV adaptation of the best-selling book by the same name. It’s a story about two people in love but who just can’t get it right. Some people love it and others don’t understand all the hype. Jessie has a theory as to why. We discuss.  LINKS Amantha Imber’s ‘How I Work’ podcast… https://www.amanthaimber.com/podcast/ The Quicky’s episode about re-entry anxiety… https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/reentry-anxiety-why-we-arent-all-rushing-back/ Mamamia’s article on Lifeline and Australia’s mental health… https://www.mamamia.com.au/mental-health-australia/ Holly’s Mamamia piece on parenting in isolation… https://www.mamamia.com.au/lockdown-special-needs/ RECCOS Jessie- Alain de Botton’s You Tube episode ‘On Love’... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ6K_f7oSdg Mia- Lady Startup podcast… https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/lady-startup/ Holly- The podcast Too Peas in a Podcast… https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/too-peas-in-a-podcast/id1470294201 CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Before the recommencement of the 2020 NRL season, a number of safeguards were put in place. In line with Scott Morrison’s “no jab, no play” policy, all players were advised to have the flu injection to ensure the safety of all teams. Now, two players have lost their jobs for refusing the vaccine, and a subset of the league are furious. How do we feel about people’s jobs being conditional upon being vaccinated?  Also, chef and writer Alison Roman is being widely criticised for comments she made about Marie Kondo and Chrissy Teigen. We discuss. Plus, when Jessie was 14, she stumbled upon a hidden birth certificate. 11 years later, her mother revealed that the certificate belonged to a brother she'd never met. A year ago, Jessie met Andrew and she tells us how she found out, how she felt, and what her relationship is like with Andrew now.  LINKS No Filter’s episode on Jessie’s brother Andrew… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/when-anne-met-andrew/ Jessie’s article on her brother Andrew… https://www.mamamia.com.au/adoption-australia/ RECCOS Jessie- After Life Season 2 on Netflix… https://www.netflix.com/au/title/80998491  And Boost Juice… https://www.boostjuice.com.au/ Mia- Lennon Stella’s album on Spotify… https://open.spotify.com/album/3nP0DOBWPfEToiDGMXZCAb Holly- Little Women on Itunes… https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/little-women/id1489251504 CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What if Jessie grabs hold of Mia and Holly’s daughters Coco and Matilda and asks them all the questions a mother never wants to hear the answer to? Well, that’s exactly what went down on this special Mother’s Day episode featuring 10 year old Matilda and 14 year old Coco. CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Pete Evans, of My Kitchen Rules, has recently parted ways with Channel Seven and Holly is scared silly that his views can now go unvetted. Is ‘cancel culture’ fuelling his extremist beliefs? And why is he not considered as a public health risk? Adele’s most recent photo has had 10 times more likes than any photo she’s ever posted. Some feel betrayed and others feel like she’s won. Why is this photo evoking such an intense response?   For many of us who are on a dozen zoom calls a day, we’re getting the chance to perve on other people’s backgrounds. So, are bookshelves making a comeback? We discuss. LINKS Adele’s photo… https://www.instagram.com/p/B_1VGc5AsoZ/ RECCOS Jessie- Normal People on Stan… https://www.stan.com.au/watch/normal-people And Paul Mescal’s instagram… https://www.instagram.com/paul.mescal/?hl=en And an episode of the True Crime Conversations podcast… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/true-crime-conversations/bali-nine/ Mia- Avene cream… https://bit.ly/3dscVox Holly- Louis Theroux’s podcast Grounded… https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p089sfrz/episodes/downloads CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A video by Tomos Robertson went viral this week. In it, he recites a poem, imagining 2020 as a turning point in human history. Will our post-Covid world be a slower, gentler and more peaceful one? Or are we romanticising an awful moment? Also, you might be familiar with Poh and Reynold from the TV series MasterChef. While both chefs end up nailing their dishes, Poh is chaotic, overambitious and always rushed. Reynold, on the other hand, is like a well-oiled machine plotting everything to the minute. So, are you a Poh or a Reynold? Plus, are you bothered if someone doesn’t like you? It’s time for some Group Therapy. LINKS An article featuring Tom Foolery’s poem video… https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12329669 The book ‘Man’s Search of Meaning’ by Viktor E. Frankl… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4069.Man_s_Search_for_Meaning Holly’s article on Poh and Reynold… https://mamamia.com.au/masterchef-contestants/ RECCOS Jessie- The podcast episode: How to Fail with Alain De Botton… https://howtofail.podbean.com/e/how-to-fail-alain-de-botton/ Mia- The book Untamed by Glennon Doyle… https://www.amazon.com/Untamed-Glennon-Doyle-Melton/dp/1984801252 Holly- The comedy show Judith Lucy Versus Men… https://www.amazon.com/Judith-Lucy-Vs-Men-Season/dp/B086P9GF12 And Stan’s lockdown comedy festival… https://www.stan.com.au/watch/australian-lockdown-comedy-festival CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Since restrictions have been eased in most states this weekend, Holly went and visited her brother-in-law, Jessie saw her family, and Mia went for a haircut. But what about the people we’re not seeing? Is this a new form of lockdown guilt we’re experiencing? Also, democratic nominee Joe Biden has been accused of sexual assault by a former senate-aide named Tara Reade (not the actress by the way). So, what does this mean for the election?  Plus, women who have just given birth are finding themselves on a Skype call with Kate Middleton. How would you feel about chatting with the Duchess of Cambridge minutes after your placenta’s been pulled out? We discuss. RECCOS Jessie- The Elizabeth Gilbert interview with Russell Brand… https://player.fm/series/under-the-skin-with-russell-brand/ep-130-create-yourself-with-elizabeth-gilbert Mia- help Mia soothe her sore skin Holly- #bossbitch on instagram https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_qAPQaDIrf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Women are OBSESSED with Yoga instructor Adriene Mishler and so are we. But now we’ve all semi-mastered at-home workouts, will we ever go back to the gym? What habits will stick and how difficult will some be to let go of once iso’s over? Also, women have been getting pubic hair transplants. Yes, that’s right and a scene from Stan’s Normal People showing a character’s pubic hair could be a sign of a new pube trend. So, can fashion find its way into our underpants? Let’s talk iso pubes. Plus, is it possible for a workaholic to change? We unpack an anonymous listener dilemma. LINKS Amy Clark’s article on pubic hair… https://www.mamamia.com.au/normal-people-stan-marianne/ Mia and Jessie’s Virtual Knockoff on Facebook… https://www.facebook.com/mamamia/videos/535361300506612 RECCOS Holly- The Shop My Stash segment on You Beauty… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/you-beauty/ Mia- Normal People on Stan… https://www.stan.com.au/watch/normal-people Jessie- A deep stretch by Adriene Mishler… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLy2rYHwUqY CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s book ‘A Bigger Picture’ is out and seeing record sales. Mia had a chat with him this week and we’re wondering, what’s with the timing? And is he angry or relieved? Also, why are we still celebrating the weight loss of reality TV stars? Especially when they’re telling us it’s the result of stress, mental illness or a physical health issue? We discuss why reality stars appear to be getting thinner. Plus, are people in your life acting a bit... weird recently? Well, there’s a reason for that…  LINKS Miriam’s Big Fat Adventure on iview… https://iview.abc.net.au/show/miriam-s-big-fat-adventure RECCOS Mia- Parks and Recreation on Stan… https://bit.ly/35fsOM8 Jessie- Dublin Murders on SBS on Demand… https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/dublin-murders Holly- Anne Tyler books such as Dinner at the Homesick Restaurant… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77699.Dinner_at_the_Homesick_Restaurant CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Am I “exercising” if I’m walking but not wearing lycra? Am I “exercising” if I go for a quick swim and then rest on my towel? Where do we draw the line when it comes to social distancing rules on “exercising”? We discuss.  Also, nostalgia for exes is real and it’s on the rise. So, is it due to loneliness? A need for redemption? Or is it because, with a global pandemic at hand, all bets are off?  Plus, Ellen DeGeneres is one of the most loved celebrities of all time but things are taking a turn. We ask, why is Ellen on the receiving end of a pile on and why is there no room for character nuance when it comes to influential women? LINKS The Mamamia article about Ellen DeGeneres… https://www.mamamia.com.au/ellen-degeneres-backlash/ RECCOS Jessie-  The book 'The Ruin' by Dervla McTiernan… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36588482-the-ruin Mia- Mamamia Gen X Party playlist… https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2gCqbbdsbeXzMD3Z2Gb8GA Holly- Music From the Homefront… https://musicfromthehomefront.com.au/ CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Fact: Only 7% of the world’s population is governed by female leaders. With Corona engulfing the globe, male leader’s reactions to the crisis pale in comparison to their female counterparts. Yes, we compare and discuss.  Also, we’re at home all day grazing and napping, so why in the world are we SO tired? Jessie coined this “iso fatigue”. Plus, if you know that your partner's group of friends don’t like you, should you make an effort?  We unpack an Outlouder dilemma. LINKS Dr. Ali Mattu’s interview… https://crooked.com/podcast/live-free-and-die/ Mamamia’s article on ‘iso skin’... https://www.mamamia.com.au/isolation-skin/ RECCOS Jessie-Go Chlo pilates instructor… https://www.instagram.com/gochlo_/ Mia- The Quicky episode about the Kennedy curse… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/jfk-bessette-gideon-inside-the-kennedy-curse/ And Knock out tingling treatment… https://tartecosmetics.com/en_AU/skincare/knockout-tingling-treatment/1209.html Holly- Oil-based face cleanser such as Go to’s Fancy Face by… https://www.mecca.com.au/go-to/fancy-face/I-042040.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5brW3LCA6QIVjh0rCh33OweVEAQYASABEgJOfPD_BwE CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Between Harry, Meghan and Karl Stefanovic, more and more celebrities are wanting to protect their privacy, but they want a say over which press can write about them. So, can they have it both ways? Also, are women’s careers facing a crisis? Some of us are now shouldering all the domestic work, mum guilt, and the mental load that comes with all these COVID-related changes, can a career survive too?  Plus, following her chat with Sexologist Tracey Cox, Mia wants to talk sex. Can romance be the enemy of sex? We discuss. LINKS The article in Yahoo Life!... https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/husbands-job-not-more-important-210000585.html Mia’s No Filter with Tracey Cox… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/no-filter-tracey-cox-sex-at-50/ RECCOS Jessie- The quarantine triangle Mia- The Incredibox app… https://apps.apple.com/au/app/incredibox/id1093131935 Holly- #backyourbookshop  And The Spill’s watch club… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-spill/kim-kardashian-justice-project/ CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The US is in absolute havoc at the moment. Thousands of people have taken to the streets asking for state restrictions to be lifted, which is a stark contrast to other parts of the world. So, what’s going on? And how is President Donald Trump fueling it?  Also, blondes and Botox patients everywhere, we feel you. Along with quarantine has come grey roots, shapeless eyebrows, faded Botox, and a version of ourselves we’ve rarely seen. So, how do we feel? Plus, is the Karen meme another way to make women feel bad? We discuss. LINKS Dr Naomi's website... www.themanseclinic.com.au RECCOS Jessie-  Iliza Shlesinger's Netflix show “Unveiled”... https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81073633 Holly- Killing Eve season 3… https://iview.abc.net.au/show/killing-eve Mia- First Wives Club on Stan… https://www.stan.com.au/watch/first-wives-club CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Just yesterday, we learned that an end is in sight for Australia’s ongoing lockdown. What will help get us there faster is a tracking app which is meant to help the government trace contacts and therefore contain infection rates. So, how do we feel about installing a government-operated tracing app?  Also, what’s the best way to make conversation during iso? A mere “how are you?” might not cut it. And what if all we want to do is complain in response? Plus, to bra or not to bra? That is the question on many women’s minds at the moment. We discuss.  LINKS No Filter episode with Osher Gunsberg… https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/hayd-a-check-in-with-osher-gunsberg/ Article by Nikki Gemmel in The Australian… https://bit.ly/2wPP1Uq Esther Perel on the Tim Ferriss podcast… https://tim.blog/2020/04/02/esther-perel-relationships-in-quarantine/ Bimby and Roy clothing line… https://www.bimbyandroy.com.au/ Whitney Cummings Netflix Show… https://www.netflix.com/au/title/80213715 RECCOS Jessie- Honey I Washed The Kids showergel… https://au.lush.com/products/all-bath-shower/honey-i-washed-kids Mia- Acoustic Covers playlist on Spotify… https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DWXmlLSKkfdAk Holly- Masterchef series on 10… https://10play.com.au/masterchef CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Pete Evans has recently endorsed a $15,000 machine which he claims is a cure for COVID-19. So, should celebrities espousing similar (potentially dangerous) views be banned from posting about their beliefs online? Also, how did a man who was in lockdown for seven years start a family with two kids? We discuss Julian Assange’s big ol’ secret. Plus. what is it like to live on your own throughout these bizarre times? We talk to a few outlouders and discuss. RECOS Jessie- Coconut and Lime candle from Glasshouse… https://www.glasshousefragrances.com/products/380g-candle-montego-bay-rhythm?variant=31391464095828 Mia- Cindy Crawford and Naomi Campbell’s ‘No Filter’ Youtube show… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDQ6b9JivzA Holly- Cilia Pacquola’s standup on Amazon Prime… https://bit.ly/2ye18ec CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman and Holly Wainwright Producer: Lem Zakharia and Luca Lavigne CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.