Mamamia Out Loud

Subscribe to Mamamia Some very passive-aggressive media coverage this week has us unpacking society’s big problem with women who aren’t with their children all the time. Plus, corporate speak has had a comeback and it's creeping into your friendships. Is it a lesson in how not to end a friendship? And, our best and worst moments of the week, ranging from trivia to DIY-related injuries to a dog therapy update. The End Bits: Listen to our last episode: Mia's Low Dopamine Mornings RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to listen to The New Gurus podcast and Holly wants you to watch Mamamia's new Skin Makeup & Beauty video series. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen to Holly's One Piece of Baby Advice for Jessie The weight-loss “miracle drug” that Hollywood stars have co-opted from the people who actually need it. Plus, the growing trend of women who really, really want to be left alone. And Madonna’s face. Apparently, it’s ‘confusing fans’. But who’s confused, exactly? The End Bits: Support those affected by the earthquake in Turkey and Syria: AKUT Search and Rescue Association Direct Relief: Turkey-Syria Earthquake Relief Listen to The Quicky: Is Ozemipic Really A Weight Loss Wonder Drug? Listen to our last episode: Holly's One Piece of Baby Advice for Jessie RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to watch Kaleidoscope on Netflix. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Armie Hammer has broken his silence, admitting to a “very intense and extreme lifestyle,” but denying allegations of sexual abuse. What comes next for the cancelled actor? Plus, do you know how to behave? Unpacking the definitive directory of modern etiquette rules. And as Pamela Anderson takes back control of her narrative, what have we learned from her return to the spotlight? The End Bits: Watch Pamela, A Love Story on Netflix Read the full list of The Cut/New York Magazine's etiquette rules here RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to read Open Book by Jessica Simpson Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia On today's show, we're unpacking the contradictions and coded bigotry surrounding the outrage over Sam Smith's new music video. Plus, a corner of the internet is calling for the cancellation of gym mirrors. Do we care more about how we look when we exercise, than the actual exercise itself? And our best and worst of the week ranging from teenagers to deadlines to scary swims. The End Bits: Listen to our last episode: Jessie's Been Doing 'Schema Therapy' Get tickets for The Living With Teens Summit RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to start a veggie garden. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen to Mia's Botox Surrender Subscribe to Mamamia We thought it was behind us, but the retro trend of sunbaking is on the rise across social media, and among young people. Have new regulations wound back the clock on sun safety? Plus, the queen of tidying has given up. Did Marie Kondo deceive us? And… has the viral parenting advice out of Denmark unlocked the key to living with teens? The End Bits: Listen to The Quicky: What’s Going On In Alice Springs? To learn more about melanoma & Emma Bett's legacy, check out Dear Melanoma Get tickets for The Living With Teens Summit Listen to our last episode: Mia's Botox Surrender RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to watch read The Paper Palace and all those other books you've been meaning to get around too. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia In news that will surprise no one, not everyone is happy with the choice of the Australian Of The Year - again. Plus… the Michael Clark/Pip Edwards ‘Circus’ is apparently not over. Are we still judging women on their dating history, weight, and parenting? And, the culture has declared it's done with embracing 'cringe.' Are we ready for the return of the mysterious 'cool-girl'? The End Bits: Read how we covered Pip Edwards last week: How Pip Edwards built a global multi-million dollar brand in 7 years. Listen to the Her with Sophie Cachia RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to watch You People on Netflix. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Jelena Dokic has been the target of online abuse amidst a controversial Australian Open. What does the horrific trolling of a former tennis champ/accomplished commentator tell us about the idea of a woman's 'acceptability window'? Plus, how has dating evolved in 2023? The lessons from a 'Please Date Me' PowerPoint that’s going viral. And…our best and worst of the week, including a live TV stuff up, a smoothie and a new couch. The End Bits: Listen to the Jelena Dokic conversation on Here If You Need: One Week After The World Cup Cayla George Was Gifted A Baby Listen to our last episode: Who Our TikTok Algorithms Think We Are RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to watch Bojack Horseman on Netflix. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Claire Murphy Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Why did Beyonce's first live performance in five years leave fans accusing her of “abandoning her principles”? Plus, how a brand refresh at a chocolate company became an unlikely political 'anti-wokeness' debate. And, a retired grandmother refuses to babysit her daughter's newborn unless she's paid. Is she the asshole? We discuss. The End Bits: Listen to yesterday's episode: Britney Spears & The Most Likely Explanation RECOMMENDATIONS: Claire wants you to watch My Massive C*ck on Stan Listen to Narelda Jacobs on No Filter Listen to Fill My Cup to lean more about allyship Listen to The Quicky Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Claire Murphy Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia The Harbour Bridge was shut down over the weekend for Ryan Gosling & A Hollywood Blockbuster. Just last month, a woman was sentenced to 15 months in prison for stopping traffic in the very same place. Is this a double standard or is there more to the story? Plus, an explainer about ChatGPT, the technology that’s about to change everything. And is office cake culture as bad for you as passive smoking? We discuss... The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Amanda wants you to read Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amanda Keller Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia The Prime Minister of New Zealand/feminist icon, Jacinda Ardern, has resigned. So what, if anything, can we learn from the frank admission that her 'tank' is empty? Plus, some of the most famous people in Australia had a shirtless brawl in a park and we’ve all been watching with popcorn. On today's show, we unpack the weirdest news story of the year so far. And, our best and worst of the week which include scams, fashion trends we wish would go away, and a room of one’s own. The End Bits: Listen to yesterday’s episode: The 'Nepo Baby' Conversation No One's Having RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to listen to Glennon's Diagnosis & What Next from Glennon's podcast We Can Do Hard Things. For help and support for eating disorders, contact the Butterfly Foundation’s National Support line and online service on 1800 ED HOPE (1800 33 4673). Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia It's awards season in Hollywood and our very own Cate Blanchett is cleaning up, but she's calling BS on the whole thing. What is the patriarchal pyramid, and what does it have to do with awards shows? Plus, a Melbourne worker has gone viral after having his pay docked for being on his phone during a shift. What are the rules when it comes to devices in the workplace? And the male versus female friendship theory we can't un-see. The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to check out The Living With Teens Summit. You can access your early-bird discounted ticket here. Holly wants you to watch Happy Valley Season 3 on Binge. Listen to yesterday’s episode: Mia & Holly’s Pregnancy Advice For Jessie Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen to our deep dive into Prince Harry's new book Subscribe to Mamamia Does Prince Harry have a problem with women? Dissecting a fresh take from his book that we didn't see coming. Plus, what’s the cost of dressing up as a Nazi? What the NSW Premier has in common with a Prince. And unpacking the break-up anthem of the Summer from Miley Cyrus. What does it tell us about how women handle heartbreak, and how the media treat them? The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to read Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel, or watch the TV adaptation on Stan Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia to catch up on all our subscriber-exclusive episodes Every year, we discuss around 700 topics on Mamamia Out Loud. Seven. Hundred. We don't always agree, but we've gotten pretty good at respectful disagreement. Mamamia Subscribers have heard us diving deep into our 'greatest hits' arguments this summer, so to give you a taste of what you've been missing, we're sharing one of the all-time classics; the infamous 'As A Mother' barney. It's vintage Out Loud. Has Holly inally budged, or will Jessie change her ways? The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia to catch up on all our subscriber-exclusive episodes It’s the first day of 2023, happy new year, Outlouders. You know what time it is...it's Word Of The Year! New Year's resolutions are notorious for falling over, so instead, every year we choose a word to set an intention for the year ahead of us. There's no pass or fail, word of the year is about creating a focus or filter for the months, decisions and moments to come. Holly, Jessie and Mia look back at their words from last year before taking us through the new word to shape the mood of the 365 days to come. The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia to catch up on all our subscriber-exclusive episodes Every episode of Mamamia Out Loud wraps up with a recommendation to help you find the gems within the endless pit of content we're all trying to navigate. At the end of every year, we zoom in on those recommendations to pick out the ones we couldn't (and didn't) stop thinking about. In a special summer bonus, Mia, Holly & Jessie take you through the very best of the best Outlouder-approved TV shows, books, and films that got them through the year. The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia to catch up on all our subscriber-exclusive episodes From war breaking out to monarchs dying, grown men slapping each other, celebrity court battles, and on-set dramas, to a new Prime Minister and the censuring of an old one... 2022 was never short on headlines, and a lot has been said about it, but in today's summer bonus episode, it's time to step back from the news cycle and reflect inwards, as Mia, Holly, and Jessie open up about the good, the bad and the ugly of their 2022. The End Bits: Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia to catch up on all our subscriber-exclusive episodes It's our last regular show of 2022, so we're casting our minds back to ponder the all-too-important but rather hazy question, 'what the hell happened this year?' Plus, the problem with the questions we’re being told not to ask our friends and family this Christmas. And, our best and worst of the week which include the infuriating term thrown at Mia, some tragically stubborn statistics, and the most wonderful birthday presents. The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to watch Wednesday on Netflix. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Nepo-babies. Chances are, you’re seeing them all over your social media and television screens. So what are they, and what’s the world’s problem with them? Plus, why do some gifts make you cry with happiness, and some make you feel nothing? The psychology of gift-giving. And does being a real friend mean offering brutal honesty or unconditional support? The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to make Outlouder's salads from our Facebook group. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to MamamiaWe thought we might have a royal-free episode, until an unspeakable troll came back from lunch with Camilla, opened his laptop, and began to write… Plus, should women go on strike at Christmas? 'Tis the season for burnout over the mental load. And, a dilemma that’s close to home about asking favours from strangers. The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to watch Wakefield on ABC iView Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen to our bonus episode unpacking Volume II of Harry & Meghan here 'Institutionalised gaslighting,' brothers at war, and more drama than a White Lotus finale. What happened on the last three episodes of Harry & Meghan? Plus, Twitter is in chaos and Meta's profits are in free fall. Is social media dead? Mia has a very convincing argument that we’re at the end of our obsession. And, our best and worst of the week ranging from broken dogs to water cooler TV to Jessie’s dream interview. The End Bits: Subscribe to listen to our special bonus episode about Harry & Meghan’s doco here RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to read Marshmallow by Victoria Hannan. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen to our episode unpacking the entire The White Lotus finale here. An ordinary Monday afternoon in Australia. Six people dead by gunfire in what seems to have been an ambush by extreme conspiracy theorists. It's not a story we are used to seeing here, so is it a senseless tragedy or a sign of something bigger? Plus, a she-said-she-said influencer war and what it tells us about slut-shaming, feminism, and the patriarchy. And the most talked about character from White Lotus re-shaping the victim narrative. The End Bits: Subscribe to listen to our feelings about The White Lotus finale here. RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to watch Spirited on Apple TV+. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia The media have had a big old dig at Harry and Meghan for invading their own privacy, and they’ve had a dig right back. So what’s the line between privacy and control? Plus, there’s a gender sleep gap, and you’ll never guess, but it’s not in women’s favour. Why? And, it’s White Lotus day, but whether you’re watching or not, what does the show tell us about the hell of forced friendship? The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to watch Bad Sisters on Apple TV+. Listen to Holly's No Filter with Andrew Moreton about The Royals here Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen to our bonus episode about Harry & Meghan’s doco here You'll never guess what we're talking about on today's show...Christmas has come early. We need to talk about Meghan & Harry Plus, have we fetishized friendship over family? And our best and worst of the week, ranging from new frocks to sickness to harsh bikini realities. The End Bits: Subscribe to listen to our special bonus episode about Harry & Meghan’s doco here RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to try this Root Cover Up from Color Wow Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia ​​Yesterday, news broke that age 71, Kirstie Alley had died. Actress. Comedian. Writer. Mother. Wife. Scientologist. Like many of us, she was many things, but what does her legacy tell us about the complicated issue of monetising weight loss Plus, the mainstreaming of sexual strangulation, And… to breed or not to breed? The conversation between three men that’s obsessing Jessie Stephens. The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to watch Colin From Accounts on Binge Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Are you Team Sussex or Team Wales? Wherever you land on the Harry & Megs versus Wills & Kate argument will tell us exactly how old you are. Plus, what a viral fashion trend tells us about Barbie's transformation into a feminist icon of inclusion. And, what will it take to turn the volume down on Kanye West? The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia & Emma want you to watch The L Word: Generation Q on Stan Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Emma Gillespie Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Everyone is talking about China and the wave of protests across the country, but what does it have to do with the FIFA World Cup in Qatar? Plus, two influencers are having a very public argument about ADHD. Why?And should we all stop being so…. authentic? One author is calling bullsh*t on authenticity. The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to watch The Real Bling Ring: Hollywood Heist. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Miscarriage, menstruation, and menopause. With all we have to deal with, should women be entitled to extra leave from their jobs? Plus, what do we need to understand about the fashion brand accused of sexualising young children in its latest ad campaign? And the tech bro ‘live forever’ movement we want no part of. The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to use a pill box organiser as your next jewellery storage travel hack. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Last night's ARIA awards were supposed to be about gender inclusivity, but with only a handful of non-male winners, what is the future of breaking down the binaries of award show categories? Plus, the viral data about who gets most of our time and why it’s made Mia cranky. And, our best and worst of the week… ranging from midnight dashes to Mia’s house, friend reunions, and Abba medleys The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to watch Fleishman Is In Trouble on Disney+ Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Peter Helliar has announced he's leaving The Project, as changes to the panel continue to dominate headlines. With more choice than ever before about what we watch and when, why are we so attached to the faces in our living room?Plus, Rebecca Judd has changed her business model and people have a lot of thoughts. And, we need to talk about Jessie’s rules for mothers-in-law. The End Bits: READ MORE: Jessie's article: My boss is about to become my mother-in-law. So I wrote a list of 7 rules for her to follow. Black Friday Guide: Exactly what to buy now in the Black Friday sales, according to our fashion and lifestyle team. RECOMMENDATIONS: Black Friday sales are kicking off. Here are Mia, Holly, and Jessie's suggestions for their favourite places to shop and things to save on: Bon Maxie Papinelle Sleepwear Medik8 Ultra Violette sunscreen Biologi By Blackberry Seed Oil Armani Luminous Silk Foundation Dissh clothing Booktopia Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our reccos from the week in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Lisa Wilkinson has announced she's leaving The Project. What does it tell us about 'targeted toxicity' and the extra job women in the public eye unwittingly sign up for? Plus, David Beckham, Robbie Williams, and why a comedian is shredding $10,000 over the very controversial football world cup. And, is leisure time inherently sexist? The double standard when it comes to 'me time' that's got Jessie riled up. Donate to flood relief via Givit, or The Red Cross The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to watch Stutz on Netflix Holly wants you to watch The White Lotus S2 on Binge Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia Elon Musk has come up with a new workplace mantra, and it’s the opposite of ‘quiet quitting’. So, what does being “hardcore” at work mean? Plus, what’s demisexuality, and what does it tell us about young people’s approach to sex? And, our best and worst of the week, ranging from concert tickets to flood rescue to dream interviews to friendship maintenance. Donate to flood relief via Givit, or The Red Cross The End Bits: Go deeper on the topics from today's show here: The Quicky: Can Trump Win The 2024 US Election? Whatever happened to Pete Evans. RECOMMENDATIONS: Emma wants you to watch I Want You Back on Prime Video Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Emma Gillespie Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe to Mamamia It's official. Donald Trump is back. The former U.S President has announced his intention to run for the Republican party candidacy for the 2024 election. Some of us are freaking out, but Mia thinks she can reassure us. Plus, a millennial icon has declared ‘aging is fully in’, and painted her hair grey to do it. So is it empowering, or insulting? And, the latest innovations in artificial intelligence have us wondering if you could ‘fake’ a digital interaction with a lost loved one, would you? Should you? Donate to flood relief via Givit, or The Red Cross The End Bits: RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to wear Nala underwear. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Emma Gillespie Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Vote for Mamamia Out Loud as Listeners' Choice in the Australian Podcast Awards What happens to the people we canceled during the pandemic? An article reminding us about a prominent anti-vaxxer has left us wondering. Plus, the latest on-screen portrayal of Prince Charles has sparked a chaotic theory about the relationship between the royals and Netflix juggernaut, The Crown. And… what refusing to adopt new technologies in the workplace really says about you. Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Read Holly's article about Dominic West. This week, we were all momentarily distracted by an old-fashioned celebrity cheating scandal. RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to listen to have a marriage sabbatical (or at least listen to The Quicky to learn the ins and outs). Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Emma Gillespie Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Vote for Mamamia Out Loud as Listeners' Choice in the Australian Podcast Awards Jennifer Aniston has opened up about her struggle to get pregnant. What does it tell us about biological clocks and how we treat childfree women? Plus, the argument we’ve been bursting to have about the accompanying photoshoot… And… our best and worst of the week which includes a viral video, sons, and Jessie's embarrassing on-stage moment. Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show. Once you've claimed your ticket follow these instructions to get access at 7PM on Saturday. RECOMMENDATIONS: Amanda wants you to listen to British Scandal. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman, Amanda Keller Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders! We've got a new podcast we want to tell you about. It's called Here If You Need, and it launched today. Join Olympic swimmer Cate Campbell & sports journalist Hayley Willis every week as they break down the week in sport, share an inspiring story from a legendary woman of the game, and give you a cheat sheet for sports chat to use every weekend. If you love what you hear and want to support women's sport, come and follow us wherever you get your podcasts: https://pod.fo/e/14d31c Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Vote for Mamamia Out Loud as Listeners' Choice in the Australian Podcast Awards Everyone’s worried about Elon Musk being in charge of Twitter. So, who’s been fired, who’s being let back in, and what does it all mean? Plus, Have we done away with social rules in favour of boundaries? And… what is ‘crying makeup’? What the latest TikTok trend tells us about the 'cute-ification' of mental illness. Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to watch Breaking Bad on Stan Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Vote for Mamamia Out Loud as Listeners' Choice in the Australian Podcast Awards What does the death of a noughties pop star teach us about grief, addiction, and complicated families? Plus, should anyone be praised for NOT CHEATING on their partners? The conversation sparked by Tim Minchin that Jessie and Holly are arguing about. And… an Outlouder dilemma about busyness, values, and when two sisters are in very different life stages. Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to listen to Brown Noise playlists. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Vote for Mamamia Out Loud as Listeners' Choice in the Australian Podcast Awards In a turn of events we didn't see coming we're cranky with Rihanna. The Fenty billionaire and musician has featured Johnny Depp in her brand's latest runway show. Why? Plus, why are we so weird about only children? And… our best and worst of the week which includes meds, our Wednesday guest host, and Holly's hard launch. Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to listen to the audiobook of Mathew Perry's book, The Big Terrible Thing Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.au Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show An elderly man was attacked with a hammer in his own home, and somehow this has become a ‘debate’ about free speech in the US. Why? Plus, Romantic Comedies are hot again. At least, that’s what everyone is saying. So why are they so hard to come by? And… does your partner follow lots of beautiful people on social media? Exactly what constitutes micro-cheating? Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. RECOMMENDATIONS: Sally wants you to watch House of the Dragon on Binge. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens, Sally Hepworth Producer: Emma Gillespe Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show The spring racing carnival in Melbourne kicked off over the weekend, which got us thinking about the influencers who were paid to be there and those who said no to it. In 2022, who decides whether or not you’re racing tomorrow? Plus, Giselle Bundchen and Tom Brady are getting a divorce, but what does it tell us about the mental load? And…the question you’ve almost certainly been asked on a plane and whether or not you should say yes. Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. You can read more here: Tom Brady Embodies A Dying Breed Of Masculinity RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to use an Apple Airtag + Collar Holder and Dog Collar from Frank Green. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Talissa Bazaz Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show Prince Harry has announced the title and release date of his forthcoming memoir. We are salivating. Plus, the Zoe Foster Blake house tour that’s sparked a conversation about aspiration versus relatability And… our best and worst of the week which includes camaraderie, personal epiphanies, and Elon Musk. Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. You can read more at Mamamia at this link: Two weeks ago, 15yo Cassius was attacked while walking home from school. He died on Sunday. RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly, Mia and Jessie want you to read The Soulmate by Sally Hepworth. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show Taylor Swift is being accused of fatphobia, thanks to the music video for her recent release, Anti Hero. Is it a fair accusation? Plus, burnout isn't just for Millenials. An essay blew Holly's mind about midlife pivots and delayed maternity leave. And… is throwing soup on art really going to save the world? Subscribe to Mamamia The End Bits: Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. Watch the Four Corners investigation into Australia's murdered and missing Indigenous women. You can read more at Mamamia at these links: Allira Green's killer has walked free. It's her family who has received a life sentence. At 33, mum of 4 Sandra Creamer left her violent marriage with nothing. This is her success story. 15 years after she was murdered, we still don't know who killed Stacey Thorne. 'Four years after leaving my violent partner, my son went to jail. I blame myself.' RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to read this Rob Delaney essay for the Times UK Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges, with thanks to Producey Studios Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Claim a free ticket to our virtual tour show Subscribe to Mamamia This episode we explore the divide around Netball Australia and Gina Rinehart, and discuss what happens when sport, sponsorship and the personal values of the players collide. We also look at what is life like for Taylor Swift’s full time muse (and boyfriend) Joe Alwyn after her new album Midnights dropped over the weekend. Plus… we talk celebrity breakups. When love is part of your public brand, what do you owe your audience if it falls apart? The End Bits: Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to listen to Midnights by Taylor Swift Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Executive Producer: Talissa Bazaz & Susannah Makin Producer: Susannah Makin Audio Producer: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. James Corden is in the headlines after he was accused of mistreating wait staff in a New York restaurant. When did we start expecting celebrities to be nice? Plus, the new way women are being made to feel bad about the way they enjoy consensual sex. And, what 'desk bombing' tells us about our aversion to unscheduled social interactions. The End Bits: Subscribe to Mamamia to listen to our Subscriber Segments RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to watch Iliza Shlesinger's new standup special on Netflix Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. Why is Britain’s new Prime Minister being compared to a head of lettuce? Liz Truss has only been in the job for six weeks, but apparently, she is already on the way out. Plus, why skin is the forgotten frontier of the beauty acceptance movement. And… in defense of the ‘boyfriend breakfast’ The End Bits: Subscribe to Mamamia RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to try the Revlon ColorStay Matte Lite Lip Crayon Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen to How To Build A Human here When it comes to parenting toddlers, there’s a lot of advice…everywhere. And sometimes, it can be hard to know where to turn when you want to make sure you’re raising good humans who can be kind, resilient, considerate, and creative. That’s where we come in. How To Build A Human is Mamamia’s new podcast for parents of toddlers. And on today's episode, we're talking about raising creative humans with former Yellow Wiggle Sam Moran and the founder of Connected Parenting, Genevive Muir. So what do you do when your toddle is borerd? And do you need to play with your kids 24/7? This podcast was made in partnership with the LEGO® DUPLO® Brand. We believe in building happy humans, Start Off Big with LEGO DUPLO. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Host: Leigh Campbell Expert: Gen Muir Guest: Former yellow Wiggle Sam Moran Producer: Liz Keen Executive Producer: Elissa Ratliff Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.au Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE.What Carrie Bickmore leaving the Project tells us about self-doubt and taking a great big leap. Plus, how environmentally friendly is your sex life? And… our best and worst of the week ranging from boobs to hangovers to tooting our own horn. The End Bits: Subscribe to Mamamia for your ticket to our virtual tour show RECOMMENDATIONS: Holly wants you to wear colourful shoes...The Wainwright shoe, from South of the Border to be specific. Use the code OUTLOUD to get 20% off. Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. What does the latest kerfuffle in Princess Mary’s House of Denmark tell us about what might be happening to the British royals soon? Plus, there’s a woman the Internet loves to hate more than most, and she’s back. And, when a relationship breaks down because you just can’t quite make that transition from couple… to parents. The End Bits: Subscribe to Mamamia RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to watch Catherine Called Birdy on Prime Video Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. We don’t know how to talk about Kanye West… but we have an idea. Is it possible that Kanye's behavior isn't influenced by his mental health? Plus, periods and the covid vaccine. New data has revealed we weren’t imagining that one affected the other.And, why the Internet is very upset about a midlife woman getting her own show on the national broadcaster… The End Bits: Subscribe to Mamamia RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to follow Carla Rockmore on Instagram for style inspo! Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Get tickets to see us live, or stream the tour, thanks to Priceline Pharmacy HERE. The biggest debate this week centers around the man who was appointed chief executive of Essendon Football Club for just 24 hours. Has his story been co-opted for a culture war? Plus #GutHealth TikTok is deceptively recruiting women into MLM schemes, under the quiet banner of wellness. And our best and worst of the week which includes engagement parties, planes, and flat packs… The End Bits: Subscribe to Mamamia RECOMMENDATIONS: Jessie wants you to read All the Broken Places By John Boyne Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud NewsletterGET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens Producer: Emma Gillespie Audio Producer: Leah Porges Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Just by reading our articles or listening to our podcasts, you’re helping to fund girls in schools in some of the most disadvantaged countries in the world - through our partnership with Room to Read. We’re currently funding 300 girls in school every day and our aim is to get to 1,000. Find out more about Mamamia at mamamia.com.auBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.