
Making Cents
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Financiallly free in just 11 years, with The Happy Saver
What if financial freedom didn’t take a lifetime, but just 11 years?Ruth Henderson,also known as The Happy Saver, proves it’s possible.She’s never been on a huge salary, didn’t get an inheritance, and never flipped property.Instead, through smart saving, simple investing into the sharemarket, and relentless consistency, they built enough wealth to become work-optional in just over a decade.And Ruth’s ready to share exactly how they did it.In this episode, we cover:How to reach financial independence in New Zealand (without earning six figures)The power of tracking net worth and using KiwiSaver wiselyHow index funds and compounding growth create true passive incomeWhy “work optional” freedom is more achievable than most Kiwis thinkIf you’ve ever wondered how ordinary New Zealanders can retire early (or just get financially free, faster) this episode is your blueprint.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.This podcast was filmed and produced by FanaticalsVideo editing & content production by Lana Byrne Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

Why 'perfect balance' can wreck your finances
Your bank balance might be looking rough, but don’t panic.Frances Cook joins the TVNZ Breakfast team to explain why it’s normal for your money to ebb and flow, why “perfect balance” is a myth, and how to stay on track through the messy seasons of life and money.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. Join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week, or become a confident sharemarket investor by joining the Market Memo newsletter.

The $1 trillion time bomb: Why Kiwi families are blowing the inheritance conversation
New Zealand is in the middle of a $1 trillion inheritance wave, and most families are walking into it completely unprepared.As Baby Boomers move into their 70s and 80s, we’re experiencing the biggest intergenerational wealth transfer in the country’s history. But the money isn’t the problem, it’s the silence.In this episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook is joined by Katie Wesney from EnableMe to break down the inheritance conversations Kiwis aren’t having, and the painful consequences when families avoid them.The truth is that most New Zealand families have no plan for what happens when assets are passed on.Whether the estate is large or small, failing to talk about money, wills, and expectations can lead to legal mess, financial loss, and long-term family rifts.We explore:Why inheritance is about more than money, it’s about love, fairness, and recognitionThe real-world emotional and financial fallout of poor estate planningWhy avoiding the hard conversations now can destroy relationships laterWhere families should start when they realise it’s time to talkIf you want to protect your family and your finances, this episode is your must-listen guide to having the inheritance conversation before it’s too late.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.This podcast was filmed and produced by FanaticalsVideo editing & content production by Lana Byrne Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

"I nannied for billionaires, it changed my entire money outlook”: building a business on your own terms, with Hannah Koumakis
What if the 9-5 is over?The idea of a steady job and one career path for life is becoming rarer, and maybe even unrealistic.In this episode of Making Cents, Frances Cook talks to Hannah Koumakis about what it actually looks like when you build a career across acting, business, content, and community, all at once.What happens when you abandon the “one job for life” model, and instead create opportunities in the new world of work, where you often need multiple streams of income to get ahead, and where your financial systems need to be even sharper to hold it all together?In this episode we talk about:How to build multiple income streams without chaosThe financial systems that make it all workWhy emotional resilience matters as much as budgetingThe tough times, and why she nearly gave it all upWhat the future of work really looks like for your bank accountLinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.This podcast was filmed and produced by FanaticalsVideo editing & content production by Lana Byrne Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

"Shock therapy" OCR cut, job pain, mortgage gain? Here's what's really going on
The Reserve Bank has slashed the Official Cash Rate, so what does that mean for how bad the economy is, and what is coming next?Frances Cook talks to the TVNZ Breakfast team about what you need to know for your mortgage, your job, and the overall economy.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. Join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week, or become a confident sharemarket investor by joining the Market Memo newsletter.

Mailbag: “Can I find an undervalued suburb, or was my parents’ success just luck?”
A listener letter asks if you can really find an undervalued suburb, or is it all luck?Host Frances Cook is joined by Vanessa Williams from http://realestate.co.nz to unpack whether you can actually spot an up-and-coming suburb before it booms.Sure, one clever buy could mean your net worth booms, but how do you play that game to win?This episode digs into:How to use real estate data to compare suburbs and spot growth trendsWhat infrastructure, transport links, and buyer demand reveal about the next boom suburbWhy some “bargains” stay cheap, and how to tell the difference with ones that are about to soar in priceSmart, practical tips for first-home buyers chasing value in New Zealand’s housing marketIf you’ve ever wondered how to find the best suburb to buy your first home, or whether “undervalued areas” really exist anymore, this episode has your answers.Send in your own questions, by emailing [email protected] Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.This podcast was filmed and produced by FanaticalsVideo editing & content production by Lana Byrne Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

“Consumerism is just filling a void” - how to stop money myths from draining your bank account
We all like to think we’re making smart money decisions… but half the time it’s actually our unconscious brain calling the shots.The result? Accidental self-sabotage, money guilt, and financial myths that keep us stuck.In this episode of Making Cents, Frances Cook is joined by financial coach and commentator Amanda Morrall to bust the biggest money myths holding people back, and show how to break free.We dig into:Why money is 90% mindset and only 10% mechanicsHow consumerism tricks us into “filling a void” instead of fixing problemsThe common belief of “I’m just not a money person”, and why it’s falseSimple mindset shifts that unlock real financial progressHow to align your money with your values (without the guilt)If you’ve ever felt like you’re bad with money, this episode will help you spot the hidden stories running the show, and make small, lasting changes that actually move you forward.Hit play to learn how to stop sabotaging your finances, ditch the myths, and start building the money life you actually want.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.This podcast was filmed and produced by FanaticalsVideo editing & content production by Lana Byrne Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

Why "financial flashpoints" hold you back, and how to fix it
"Financial flashpoints" are the moments that can take over you subconscious, and quietly derail the best of money plans. They can push smart people, to make some bad choices. Frances Cook talks to the TVNZ Breakfast team about how to spot them, and stop them taking over. LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Buying vs building: Which property strategy builds more wealth over time?
Old vs new: Which property strategy builds more wealth?When you're deciding whether to buy a house or build one, you're not just choosing a home, you're making one of the biggest financial decisions of your life.In this Ask the Experts episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook is joined by Kirsty Healey from EnableMe to unpack the pros and cons of buying an existing home vs building new. And importantly, which option could help you build more long-term wealth.Whether you're a first-home buyer or property investor, the choice between old and new has serious financial implications. New builds often come with lower maintenance costs, better mortgage deals, and the potential for higher-quality construction. But they also carry risks like construction delays, budget blowouts, and developer red tape.On the flip side, buying an existing home is faster and feels more straightforward. But it can come with hidden costs, future-proofing challenges, and unexpected renovation bills.In this episode, we cover:How new builds can affect your mortgage rate and deposit requirementsThe most common building pitfalls, including budget and council issuesWhy existing homes aren't always the “safe” choiceWhich option could offer better long-term value growthHow to decide based on your personal timeline, risk tolerance, and financial goalsIf you're stuck between buying or building, this episode will help you weigh the real costs, risks, and rewards.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

What I learned from starting over in my 30s
What really happens when you burn everything down and start over in your late 30s?In this episode of Making Cents, Frances Cook shares the raw reality of leaving a high-profile media job, building a business from scratch, and creating financial freedom on her own terms.This episode dives into the money lessons, business mistakes, and mindset shifts that come with starting over later in life.From learning how to begin imperfectly, to setting boundaries, to turning financial security into life freedom, it’s a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to survive a major life reset.If you’ve ever thought about walking away from stability, changing your career, or creating something of your own, his will give you a real look at the struggles, the lessons, and the unexpected wins that come from starting again.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

The hidden costs of buying a home (and how to avoid nasty surprises)
Buying a house in New Zealand? Don’t get caught out by hidden costs.In this episode of Ask the Experts, we reveal the true cost of buying a home, beyond the sale price.From legal fees to building inspections or surprise repair bills, these are the extra expenses that can seriously derail your property plans if you’re not prepared.We break down the most common hidden costs that first home buyers overlook, how much they typically add up to, and smart ways to avoid nasty financial surprises.Whether you're buying your first home or upgrading to your next one, this is essential listening to help you protect your deposit, manage your budget, and avoid costly mistakes.Tune in for a chat between Frances Cook and Vanessa Williams from realestate.co.nz, on:Legal fees and how to reduce themWhat building inspections actually costWhether you need to test for meth or asbestosRed flags in older homes that could cost you thousandsHow much extra cash to have on hand before going unconditionalBuying property is stressful enough, so don’t let hidden costs make it worse. Listen now so you can go into your next home purchase fully informed and confident.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

How to start investing, and go from $5, to financial freedom. Webinar REPLAY
Think shares are too risky or too complicated? Think again. In this live webinar, Frances Cook is joined by Ruth Henderson from The Happy Saver, independent financial journalist and founder of The Bottom Line, Paul McBeth, and Dean Anderson, founder of investing platform Kernel. Together they’re going to break down how investing really works, without the jargon, hype, or Wall Street bros. You’ll learn: - Why the sharemarket isn’t gambling, but ownership in real businesses - How and why prices actually move - The difference between saving and investing, and why that gap matters - Why you don’t need thousands of dollars to get started, $5 is enough - How index funds make investing simple, diversified, and effective - The biggest mistakes beginners make (and how to avoid them) If you’ve ever wanted to invest but felt intimidated, this is the easiest way to understand the basics and build confidence. By the end, you’ll know how to take the first step toward growing wealth, on your terms.

Why we financially sabotage ourselves, and how to stop
Most of us don’t just make money mistakes, we repeat them.Why? Because our money beliefs and money psychology are quietly running the show.In this episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook dives into how financial self-sabotage happens, with guest Nick Alcock, a tax debt coach and chartered accountant who uses financial therapy techniques.From compulsive buying and gambling, to financial enabling, money avoidance, and even being too scared to ask for a pay rise, it’s all on the table.Nick explains how childhood money stories, financial flashpoints, and subconscious money beliefs shape the way we spend, save, and manage debt.He shares real client examples of people earning six figures but still trapped in tax debt, the common red flags like financial infidelity or compulsive shopping, and why shifting from a scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset can change everything.Whether you’re struggling with overspending, stuck in fear of negotiating your salary, or trying to understand why you keep sabotaging your financial goals, this conversation will help you spot the patterns, and start building healthier money habits.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Using your home to buy investment property: smart or risky?
Welcome to Ask the Experts, where each week we talk to people in the industry to get the inside word on what’s happening right now, and what that means for the tactics that you should use to make the most of your money.If you’re thinking about property investment, there’s one word that always comes up - leverage.It’s the strategy of using your home’s value to invest into something else, usually more property.When it works, it can supercharge your wealth.When it doesn’t? You’re putting your family home on the line.In this episode, we unpack how to use leverage the smart way, with financial strategist Katie Wesney from enableMe.We cover when it’s worth considering, the emotional and financial resilience you need, and how to avoid rookie mistakes that can cost you big.Whether you're already in the property game or just thinking about it, this one could save you serious money, and a lot of stress.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

What it’s really like to quit work forever at 30, with Captain FI
It’s a fantasy many of us share: what if you could retire early, walk away from your job forever, and live life on your own terms by the age of 30?Would it be all freedom and fun… or would the reality look very different?In this episode of Making Cents, I talk to Captain Fi, one of Australia’s most well-known FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) bloggers. He shares what it really takes to achieve financial independence at such a young age, and whether he would actually recommend it to others.Captain Fi started out as a pilot, a career that cost him over $300,000 in training. Determined to buy back his freedom, he focused on three strategies that define the FIRE movement:Earn as much as possible through a high-paying job and multiple side hustlesSpend as little as possible by keeping living costs low and avoiding lifestyle creepInvest everything left over into shares and growth assets to build wealth quicklyBy living on less than $40,000 a year, while sometimes saving up to 90% of his income, he was able to quit work in his early 30s.Today, Captain Fi lives on a hobby farm in Queensland with his wife and young daughter, raising bees, planting gardens, and building the family-focused life he always wanted. But his journey also included burnout, grief, and a surprising twist: after a short period of “retired life,” he realised it wasn’t fulfilling enough and pivoted into something new.In this conversation, we cover:How he built financial independence by 30The reality of early retirement versus the daydreamWhy he “un-FIRE’d” and bought a farmThe hidden challenges of extreme savings and burnoutHis advice for anyone chasing financial freedom todayIf you’ve ever wondered what early retirement really looks like, or how to use the FIRE movement to reshape your own career and lifestyle, this episode has the insights from someone who has lived it.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

No pay rise? How to ask for benefits instead
Fast Money with Jim Mora on Sunday Morning with RNZ. Chatting everything from cost-of-living savings, how to pay off debt faster, how to get a pay rise or what to do next if a pay rise is turned down, and what's happening with the property market at the moment.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Side hustle mistakes that cost you time and money
Side hustles can boost your money life, but only if you avoid the mistakes that tank most people early on.In this episode of Making Cents: Ask the Experts, we’re breaking down the most common side hustle mistakes, and how to avoid them.From financial pitfalls to admin overload, we’re giving you real, practical advice to help you start a side hustle that actually works.I’m joined by Joanna Greaves, General Manager of Business Banking at Kiwibank, who’s seen thousands of small businesses and side hustles come through the system.She shares what works, what fails, and the one thing most people forget to do when turning a small idea into a successful income stream.We cover:• How to start a side hustle the smart way• Financial tips for side hustlers (before you even make your first dollar)• When to move from personal to business accounts• The hidden risks that catch beginners out• The one step that separates sustainable hustles from burnout trapsIf you want to start a business on the side, build up financial freedom, or just make a little extra income, this episode gives you the roadmap, minus the guru hype.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

How to find a financial adviser you can actually trust (In NZ)
Finding a financial adviser in New Zealand can feel both overwhelming, and risky.With so many options, how do you know who to trust with your money, your KiwiSaver, your mortgage, or your retirement plan?In this episode of Making Cents, Frances Cook breaks down exactly how to find a financial adviser in NZ that you can actually rely on. We cover when you really need an adviser, what they can (and can’t) do for you, how they get paid (fees vs commissions), and the red flags that should send you running.Whether you’re buying your first home, setting up life insurance, planning for retirement, or investing a lump sum, this guide will show you how to:Check if an adviser is licensed and registered in New ZealandUnderstand their specialtiesAsk the right vetting questions before you sign anythingSpot common conflicts of interest and sales tacticsKnow the difference between real advice and a product pitchYour financial adviser should be a co-pilot, not the pilot. This episode will help you feel confident, avoid getting burned, and choose someone who puts your interests first.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Small changes to beat the cost of living
Whether you're hitting the supermarket, or paying your regular bills, here are some quick ways to tackle the cost of living in your daily life. Frances Cook talks to the TVNZ Breakfast team about the ways to fight the price rises. LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

The KiwiSaver trap: why a common tactic can accidentally torpedo your nest egg
Are you accidentally sabotaging your KiwiSaver?KiwiSaver is one of the most powerful tools New Zealanders have for growing wealth, but if you’re on autopilot, you could be losing tens of thousands of dollars without realising it.In this episode of Ask the Experts, we reveal the common KiwiSaver mistakes that are quietly shrinking your nest egg, and the easy fixes that could supercharge your long-term savings.Whether you're using KiwiSaver for retirement, your first home deposit, or both, it’s time to stop treating it like a passive savings account.Frances Cook is joined by Kristin Sutherland from EnableMe to break down:The risks of “set and forget” with KiwiSaverHow to rebuild your account after using it for a first home depositWhy your KiwiSaver fund type (growth vs conservative) matters more than you thinkHow often you should review your KiwiSaver settingsThe first step to take if you've ignored your KiwiSaver until nowIt only takes a few small tweaks to get your KiwiSaver working harder, and fixing it might take less time than listening to this episode.Listen now to protect your future wealth, and make sure every dollar is doing the most for you.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

From Uber to dog poop: The side hustles people really get paid for
Everyone wants a bit of extra cash, but are side hustles actually worth your time, or just another way to burn out?From driving for Uber to picking up dog poop, side hustles in New Zealand range from the weird to the wonderful. Some can bring in fast money to help with the cost of living crisis, while others might grow into a full-time business or a path to financial freedom.In this episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook explores which side hustle ideas are worth it in 2025, and which ones are a waste of your time and money. Done right, a side hustle can boost your income, help you start investing, or give you the chance to test a new business idea. Done wrong, it can leave you exhausted with nothing to show for it.We dig into the myths, the money traps, and the side hustles that really do work. From tutoring, to service-based gigs like cleaning and gardening, through to the online hustle trends that promise passive income but rarely deliver.If you’ve ever wondered how to make money online, what the best side hustles in New Zealand actually are, or how to bring in extra income without burning out, this episode gives you the strategies to get the cash without the crash.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Cheap reno wins vs expensive fails: What adds real value
Small fixes for a big win: it’s time for renovations that actually add valueNot all renovations are created equal. Some upgrades could cost you thousands without adding a cent to your resale value.In this Ask the Experts episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook is joined by Vanessa Williams from realestate.co.nz to reveal which home improvements genuinely increase property value, and which ones are a total waste of money.Whether you’re preparing to sell or just want to be smart about where you invest in your home, understanding the return on renovation is crucial.A $50,000 kitchen revamp might look stunning, but will buyers actually pay for it?We cover:Kitchen and bathroom renovations: high impact or high risk?The low-cost power of painting, decluttering, and deep cleaningPools: luxury feature or long-term liability?Do outdoor upgrades like decks and landscaping pay off?Simple layout changes that boost value more than cosmetic tweaksBest renovations for a $5K–$10K budgetIf you want to increase your home’s value without overcapitalising, this episode is your essential guide to renovation decisions that make a real difference.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Outsmart the cost of living: Here’s why your wallet feels empty
Why does life still feel so expensive?In this webinar, we break down what’s really driving the cost of living in New Zealand, and why your grocery bill, rent, and power costs keep climbing while tech and travel seem cheaper.You’ll learn: - The hidden forces pushing up the price of essentials - Smart ways to save on food and bills without giving up life’s small joys - Budgeting strategies that actually work in today’s economy (no “just skip coffee” advice here) - How to take back control, even when the headlines say you shouldn’t be strugglingWhether you’re renting, paying a mortgage, or just trying to stretch your pay further, this is your chance to get practical, realistic tips to help your money go further, without guilt or judgment.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

How to quit the money guilt (without quitting your financial goals)
Feeling guilty every time you spend money? You’re not alone, but it might be doing more harm than good.In this episode of Making Cents, we’re diving into why money guilt is one of the biggest mindset traps stopping people from saving, investing, or sticking to a budget.I’ll break down the psychology behind guilt and spending, and show you how to shift your habits without giving up the things that make life fun.We’ll talk:• Why guilt-based budgeting usually backfires• How to enjoy your money while staying on track with financial goals• The science-backed way to build better money habits (without relying on willpower)• What behavioural economists like Richard Thaler and psychologists like Brad Klontz say about shame and self-sabotage• How to set up systems that make saving, spending, and financial planning easier• Why small wins and values-based spending matter more than you thinkWhether you’re dealing with debt, trying to grow your savings, or just want to stop feeling anxious every time you tap your card, this episode is your guide to dropping the shame and taking control.Because being good with money shouldn’t mean punishing yourself.

Why New Zealanders are scared of the sharemarket
A quick hit highlight clip from the April 2025 episode "Housing, KiwiSaver, and debt: Solving NZ’s biggest money issues with the Retirement Commissioner", with Jane Wrightson.Making Cents is supported by Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

How to stay motivated when your money goals feel too big
Ever felt like your financial goals are just too far away?Whether you're dreaming of financial independence, planning for early retirement, or just trying to build up a decent savings buffer, staying motivated over the long haul can be tough.In this Ask the Experts episode of Making Cents, we're talking about how to stay on track with your biggest financial goals, even when progress feels slow.Financial adviser Lisa Butler from EnableMe shares practical money mindset strategies, goal-setting techniques, and real-life examples of clients who turned things around, one small step at a time.We break down how to:Set achievable money goals without getting overwhelmedStay motivated while saving for retirement or financial freedomUse mindset shifts to avoid burnout and build momentumCreate financial milestones and celebrate wins along the wayMake smart, strategic progress toward long-term goalsBuild consistency into your budgeting and investing habitsIf you're working toward long-term wealth, debt freedom, retirement planning, or simply want to get better at sticking to your financial plan, this is the episode for you.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

When stage 4 cancer hit, financial independence gave her room to breathe
What if the worst happened, but you were financially ready?When Caroline Gordon was diagnosed with stage four bowel cancer, everything changed. But because she’d already built financial independence, she had something many people in crisis don’t: options.In this episode of Making Cents, we dive into how financial freedom became Caroline’s safety net. She shares how it allowed her to:- Self-fund private cancer treatment not available in the public system- Travel overseas for surgery when time was critical- Step away from a stressful job to focus on recovery- Maintain her quality of life without financial panicWhether you’re working towards FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early), building your first emergency fund, or just trying to create more security, this episode shows what financial freedom really means.Caroline shares her investing strategy (including index funds and ethical investing), and what she wishes more people understood about money, health, and freedom.It’s not about the money.It’s about what the money makes possible, especially when life gets messy.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

How do banks decide if they'll lower interest rates - and are they going down more?
Will your mortgage rate go down soon, or will banks keep them higher for longer?In this episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook joins RNZ’s Nights on 14 August, to break down everything you need to know about New Zealand interest rates right now.We cover:How the Official Cash Rate (OCR) works and what it means for home loansThe link between what savers get in their term deposit, and what borrowers are charged for their mortgageWhether banks are competing hard enough for customersWhy banks cut or raise interest rates at different timesWhether you’re a homeowner, first-home buyer, or looking to grow your savings, this episode explains how bank decisions, Reserve Bank policy, and market competition all affect your wallet.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

We love Lotto, but investing loves us back
Why we choose Lotto over investing, even when it’s irrational, and how to flip the script so investing feels just as exciting.A replay of a conversation with Wallace Chapman on RNZ's The Panel, from 11 August.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

From broke to thriving: Money fixes for self-employed and side hustlers
Are you enjoying the freedom of self-employment - or just underpaid, overworked, and financially stressed?Running your own business can give you freedom, flexibility, and the chance to build something that truly works for you.But without the right systems in place, it’s also easy to end up burnt out, broke, and completely unprepared for the future.In this Ask the Experts episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook is joined by Justin Gauci from EnableMe to unpack the money traps that trip up self-employed Kiwis.Then? It’s how to fix them.We cover the essential questions every freelancer, contractor, sole trader or small business owner needs to ask:Are you charging your true market value, or just making yourself a job that doesn’t pay properly?How should you really think about GST and tax deductions (hint: they don’t make things free)?What’s the smartest way to save for retirement when you don’t get KiwiSaver employer contributions?How can you smooth out cashflow, and prepare for big tax bills without panic?This episode is full of practical financial advice for self-employed people who want to earn well, save smart, and run their business like a grown-up, without sacrificing their lifestyle or security.Whether you’re just starting out or several years into your self-employed journey, this is your roadmap for building a solid financial foundation.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

“We sold everything and moved into a caravan” - creating financial freedom without the fat paycheck
She hit financial freedom at 51, by downsizing to a caravan and selling the family trade business.It wasn’t a tech salary. It wasn’t an inheritance. It was good old-fashioned DIY thinking, property investment, and a whole lot of planning.In this episode of Making Cents, you’ll meet Charmaine Hands, who “re-lifed” in her 50s and built a whole new life of travel, flexibility, and financial independence.She ran a glazing and locksmithing business with her husband for over two decades, raising their family and carefully reinvesting in assets along the way.Then, with the kids grown and the business ready to hand over, she took the leap.Sold the business to a staff member. Turned their home into a rental. Bought commercial property for passive income. Moved into a caravan to travel New Zealand. Started living the life they’d always imagined. No million-dollar pay cheque. Just smart money moves, DIY upgrades, and a relentless vision for something better.We talk about:- What it really takes to build financial freedom without a big income- How to turn your home or business into long-term wealth- The pros and cons of living in a caravan full-time- Why imagination and stubbornness might be your best financial toolsIf you're dreaming of more freedom, flexibility, and meaning in your next chapter, this episode is for you.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

How to stop guilt sabotaging your money goals
The 1news Breakfast team have questions about how we can beat the guilt, and create systems to help us feel better about our money. A replay of the TVNZ segment from 5 August.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Are house prices about to drop more? What you need to know in 2025
Are house prices about to drop more, or is this the bottom of the market?In this episode of Ask the Experts, we dig into what’s really going on with New Zealand’s housing market in 2025.Whether you’re a first home buyer, property investor, or current homeowner, understanding the true drivers behind NZ house prices is essential to making smart money choices.House prices are flat or falling across much of the country. So what’s holding the market back, and what could trigger the next move?Join Kiwibank economist Sabrina Delgado and host Frances Cook for a deep dive into:Why New Zealand house prices have stalledThe impact of interest rates and the Reserve Bank’s OCR decisionsWhat’s happening in the construction industry and how it affects housing supplyCommon myths about the NZ housing marketWhat to expect for property prices over the next yearThe key factor buyers and sellers need to watch right nowIf you’re wondering whether to buy now, sell soon, or wait it out, this is the expert insight you need to make confident property decisions in 2025.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Building FU money on an average income - "Enough is not a number, it's a decision"
You don’t need a million dollars to reach financial freedom.In this episode of Making Cents, we’re breaking down how Germano Gomes built lifestyle freedom on an average income. No lottery win. No six-figure job. Just smart money moves.He paid off his mortgage in five years, lived simply, and built up enough FU money to say no to the traditional 9–5. All while still enjoying the things that matter most.Now? He works part of the year, travels the world, and funds it with casual jobs on his terms.This approach is sometimes called Barista FIRE. It’s a version of early retirement where you save and invest just enough to cover the basics, and use flexible work to fund the fun.It means more freedom, sooner.We talk:- How he hit financial independence without a high income- The exact strategy he used to pay off his house fast- Why he walked away from property investing- How much he actually spends now- And the mindset shift that made it all possible“Enough is not a number — it’s a decision.”Hit play to find out how he made his.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Major money changes you need to know: protect your savings account, KiwiSaver cuts, and grocery fights
There’s a wave of major money changes rolling through New Zealand, hitting everything from where you keep your savings, to what’s in your KiwiSaver, to the price of your weekly groceries.In this live Making Cents episode, Frances Cook is joined by Consumer NZ CEO Jon Duffy to break down what actually matters, and what you should do next.We cover:- The new bank protection rules, under the Depositor Compensation Scheme. What the $100,000 guarantee really means, and how to make sure you’re covered- KiwiSaver contribution cuts. What’s changed, who loses out, and whether it’s still worth it- Grocery price wars. Are the watchdogs finally growing teeth, or are we stuck with sky-high bills?- The surcharge ban, and will that mean lower fees for you, or just higher prices everywhere else?Whether you’re saving for a house, trying to retire, or just want to stop bleeding money at the checkout, this episode gives you the clear, practical info you need, so that you can stay savvy with your money.Smart questions, straight answers, with one of New Zealand’s top consumer advocates.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

The real estate standoff: Buyers, sellers, and the gap no one wants to close
Welcome to Ask the Experts, where each week we talk to people in the industry to get the inside word on what’s happening right now, and what that means for the tactics that you should use to make the most of your money.Buyers vs Sellers: What’s really happening in NZ’s housing market right now?In this episode of Ask the Experts, we dive into the growing standoff between buyers and sellers in New Zealand’s property market.House prices are falling across much of the country, but many sellers are refusing to budge, holding out for a rebound that may not arrive anytime soon.While some homeowners can afford to wait, others are facing real pressure to sell in a soft market.So what happens when seller expectations clash with property market reality? And is this a golden opportunity for buyers to make a move?Frances Cook is joined by Vanessa Williams from realestate.co.nz to unpack:What’s happening with New Zealand house prices in 2025Why sellers are holding out, and what might force them to actHow long most people can afford to wait before sellingHow often Kiwis actually sell their homes (and how that changes in a downturn)The smartest strategies for both buyers and sellers in the current marketIf you’re trying to decide whether to buy or sell in 2025, this episode will give you the insight you need to make confident property decisions.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Being too polite could cost you $240,850
What if being polite was secretly draining your bank account?Welcome to Making Cents, the podcast for people who want financial freedom without giving up their coffee.I’m Frances Cook, a financial journalist and fellow financial freedom seeker who makes money simple for you.In this episode of Making Cents, I'm breaking down how to negotiate better rates, reduce your cost of living, and stop overpaying on bills, with simple phrases that could save you $240,850.This is your guide to asking for more (without being a diva).You’ll learn:How to save money on everyday expensesWhat a 0.5% interest rate discount could really save youThe best phrases to use when negotiating with banks, power companies, or phone providersHow to build lifelong money-saving habitsWhy “being nice” doesn’t have to mean paying moreChange your mindset on this, and watch it change every area of your life. This is one of those episodes that could literally change your financial future.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

How to get your boss to pay for your insurance
Hate paying for insurance? What if you didn’t have to?Welcome to Ask the Experts, where each week we talk to people in the industry to get the inside word on what’s happening right now, and what that means for the tactics that you should use to make the most of your money.Insurance is one of those financial to-dos that’s easy to ignore, until it’s suddenly urgent.It can be confusing, expensive, and way too easy to shove to the bottom of your priorities list. But here’s the thing: New Zealanders are underinsured, with coverage rates well below the OECD average.So what’s actually worth paying for? What can you skip?And… is there a way to get someone else to pay for your insurance?In this episode, I’m joined by Willie Moala, national insurance lead at AdviceFirst, to break down the smart ways to cut insurance costs, the underrated workplace perks you might be missing, and the cover you’ll be grateful to have when life throws you a curveball.If you're looking to save money, protect your income, or just finally get insurance sorted, this episode is your guide.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Rentvesting: A fast look at pros and cons
The 1news Breakfast team have questions about the good and bad of rentvesting. A replay of the segment from 22 July. Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

"Why I gave up my dream home to rentvest instead" - Ilse Wolfe
What if renting your dream home and building long-term wealth weren’t opposites?Welcome to Making Cents, the podcast for people who want financial freedom without giving up their coffee.I’m Frances Cook, a financial journalist and fellow financial freedom seeker who makes money simple for you.Today we’re diving into “rentvesting”, the strategy where you rent in the lifestyle location you love, and invest in property somewhere more affordable to grow your wealth.It’s a smart workaround for high-price areas like Auckland or Queenstown, and a growing trend for first-home buyers and seasoned investors alike.This episode’s guest, Ilse Wolfe from Wolfe Property Coaching, shares why she left homeownership in one of New Zealand’s most expensive suburbs, and how rentvesting let her move her family to the beach without adding to their debt.We break down how to crunch the numbers, how to spot a good rental opportunity, and what rentvesting changes about school zones, security, and even your relationship with your landlord.Whether you're stuck in an expensive city or just want more freedom, this episode is packed with the real-life tips you need to make it work.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

The pocket money debate: Should kids earn it or just get it?
Should kids get pocket money, and what’s the best way to teach them to use it?Welcome to Ask the Experts, where each week we talk to people in the industry to get the inside word on what’s happening right now, and what that means for the tactics that you should use to make the most of your money.Pocket money seems simple, but it can actually be one of the most powerful tools to shape a child’s long-term relationship with money. So… should you pay kids for chores? Give it freely? Or skip it altogether?In this episode of Ask the Experts, Kiwibank’s Julia Jackson to explore the latest research on kids and money, including how to raise financially confident children in a world of tap-and-go spending.We unpack:The pros and cons of giving pocket moneyWhy some parents tie it to chores (and others avoid it completely)How to talk to kids about money without stressing them outCreative ways to make money feel tangible, even in a digital worldTools and apps that help kids safely experiment with spending and savingIf you want the next generation to avoid the financial mistakes you learned the hard way, this one’s essential listening.Hit play, and get ready for some 'aha' moments.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Could you save on insurance, or should you cancel it? As well as grocery prices, house values, and how to survive NZ's money madness
Fast Money with Jim Mora on Sunday Morning with RNZ. Chatting everything from why your groceries are so expensive, how to save money on insurance, why house prices are down, and how to get the best mortgage rate.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Bitcoin made boring: How crypto going mainstream is changing how we invest into it
Welcome to Making Cents, the podcast for people who want financial freedom without giving up their coffee. I’m Frances Cook, an independent financial journalist and fellow financial freedom seeker who makes money simple for you.Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are no longer just for tech bros and Reddit threads. As crypto edges closer to the mainstream, new ways to invest are opening up, including through fully regulated, tax-efficient managed funds.In this episode, I’m joined by Anthony Edmonds, the investment manager behind New Zealand’s first regulated Bitcoin PIE fund.We break down why he created it, who it’s for, and how it lets everyday investors access Bitcoin without needing to mess around with exchanges, wallets, or tracking capital gains tax.We cover:- How regulated Bitcoin PIE funds work (and why they matter)- Why crypto is shifting from a fringe asset to being part of serious portfolios- What risks still exist (even in a “boomer-friendly” version of Bitcoin)- How fund structures like PIEs make investing simpler, especially for high earners- Whether other coins like Ethereum could followIf you’re crypto-curious but cautious, this one’s for you.Making Cents is supported by our friends at KiwibankLinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

The mortgage mistake that’s costing you thousands (and how to fix it)
Welcome to Ask the Experts, where each week we talk to people in the industry to get the inside word on what’s happening right now, and what that means for the tactics that you should use to make the most of your money.Buying a house is one of the biggest financial commitments most people ever make, and unless you’re one of the lucky few born into millions, chances are you’ll need a mortgage to do it.But here’s the part most people don’t realise: how you structure that mortgage can be the difference between paying it off decades from now… or shaving years (and tens of thousands of dollars) off your loan.In this episode, I’m joined by financial strategist Katie Wesney from EnableMe, who breaks down the biggest mortgage structure mistake people make, and how to fix it.We unpack how your money personality should shape your strategy, why flexibility can matter more than the lowest rate, and when tools like split loans or revolving credit can supercharge your repayments.Whether you’re a first-home buyer or already deep into your mortgage journey, this episode is packed with tips to help you build a plan that actually works for your life.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

More food tips that'll save your budget (fast edition)
A replay of a conversation with the 1News Breakfast team, on the best tips to save money from your food budget.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

“Food shouldn’t be this expensive” - chef Alice Taylor on eating well for less
Grocery prices have gone off the rails. Butter costs more than brunch, olive oil feels like a luxury item, and meat? Don’t even ask.It’s enough to derail your entire budget, and for many Kiwis, it already has.In this episode of Making Cents, I’m joined by Chef Alice Taylor, the force behind @AliceTaylorEats, whose cheap, delicious, and realistic recipes have built a devoted following online. She’s also furious about how hard it’s become just to feed yourself well, and she’s doing something about it.We get into:The cost-saving kitchen hacks that actually workWhy she’s calling out politicians over food pricesHow to build a staple pantry that saves you time, money, and stressTips for feeding picky kids, eating with allergies, and still getting the occasional treatBecause while some things are out of our control, there’s still power in what we can do, especially when we share what’s working.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

One in three NZers 'accidentally' bought a house? Here's how
Welcome to Ask the Experts, where each week we talk to industry insiders to get the inside word on what’s happening in the market, and what that means for the tactics that you should use to make the most of your money.Here’s a wild stat to kick things off: almost one in three New Zealanders have accidentally bought a house.Not just wealthy investors, we're talking first-home buyers too.So how on earth does that happen? And what does it tell us about the current New Zealand housing market, property prices, and buying strategies?For this episode I’m joined by Vanessa Williams from http://realestate.co.nz , who’s got the data to explain it all, and how you can be ready if an unexpected homeownership opportunity lands in your lap.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Quick Hit: Is a revolving credit mortgage worth it?
A highlight clip from the February 3rd episode, “From how I invest, to getting rid of the mortgage fast: A chaotic Ask Me Anything episode”, with Frances CookLinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

Should you invest in gold?
Welcome to Making Cents, the podcast for people who want financial freedom without giving up their coffee.I’m Frances Cook, an independent financial journalist and fellow financial freedom seeker who makes money simple for you.Has the world gone mad, and is that why gold prices are hitting record highs?With inflation, war, and market instability making headlines, more people are asking the same question: Should I be investing in gold?It’s the classic “safe haven” asset. But is it actually safe? And is now the right time, or are you already too late?In this solo episode, I’m cutting through the hype to help you decide whether gold deserves a spot in your investment strategy, or if it’s just fear in a shiny wrapper.We talk about:– Why gold spikes during global chaos– When it works… and when it really doesn’t– The biggest gold investing mistakes to avoid– How to actually buy gold (without getting scammed)– Whether gold is right for your money goalsIf you’ve ever wondered whether gold is a smart move or just investing FOMO, this episode’s for you.Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank.LinksFollow Frances Cook on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, or join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week.

The US-Israel-Iran conflict shows chaos is the new normal - LIVE replay
In a live episode of Making Cents, it's time to decode the tension still simmering in the US-Iran-Israel conflict, and the reaction from the money world. Oil prices, KiwiSaver balances, inflation pressure, and economic growth could all be impacted. What does this mean for your money? Host Frances Cook is joined by top financial minds to unpack what’s happening and what you can do about it: Jarrod Kerr, chief economist at Kiwibank Michael Gorin, wealth adviser at AdviceFirst Gareth Kiernan, chief forecaster at Infometrics Real-time, expert-backed analysis to help you stay calm, informed, and in control. Whether you're an investor, homeowner, or just trying to get by — this episode is for you. Join live to get your questions answered on: How global conflict is affecting oil prices and inflation What the situation could mean for your KiwiSaver Whether now is the time to buy, sell, or sit tight What smart investors and advisers are doing right now