Love to See It with Emma and Claire

We continue to have an insatiable thirst for juicy rumors and gossip… and there are a few less fun Bachelor Nation news items we’re going to need to address as well. Here to help us go through it all is friend of the pod Erin Darke, who you can see on CBC’s Moonshine if you’re in Canada! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re joined by Chad Kultgen and Lizzy Pace, who host the Game of Roses podcast, to talk about their fascinating new book How To Win The Bachelor: The Secret to Finding Love and Fame on America’s Favorite Reality Show – and, of course, to talk about their personal journeys down the Bachelor rabbithole. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s week two of Clayton’s season of The Bachelor, and a dynamic duo of early season villains COMPLETELY takes over the episode. And we get to watch Clayton have absolutely no idea how to handle it. Here to discuss that, Clayton’s first one-on-one date and cameos from Hillary Duff and Ziwe, is host of "A Little Help for Our Friends" and Bachelor alum Jacqueline Trumbull!Note: The Bachelor won't have a new episode next week. But don't worry, we will! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Bachelor is back, and this time with twice as much Jesse Palmer as ever before! The second one is Clayton Echard, whom you probably don’t remember from Michelle Young’s season of The Bachelorette. It's Clayton’s season premiere, so we’re here to talk about limo exits, shimmering golden gowns, gimmicks, first roses accepted (and rejected) plus so much more. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We take all the contestants' bios for Clayton’s upcoming season of The Bachelor and we just... absolutely tear them apart. In a loving way! And joining us is someone bursting with opinions on all things Bachelor: Producer Harry! He's better known as Harry Huggins, producer of the podcast This Is Critical. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s the big finale of Michelle Young’s season, and it’s got it all: Meeting the parents, last chance dates, proposals and couch cries. The most festive Bachelorette finale ever ends, as all holiday shows should, with true love. Let’s dive in! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

No new bonus episode this week. So instead we’re introducing This Is Critical with Virginia Heffernan, a podcast that examines the cultural assumptions some take for granted, like the Miss America pageant as a reflection of our society. This episode features former Miss America Kate Shindle and journalist Amy Argetsinger, author of There She Was: The Secret History of Miss America. To hear the full episode, follow This Is Critical wherever you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Who’s catching feelings? Who’s literally catching the most feelings? This week on the fantasy suites episode, Michelle goes on three INTIMATE, ROMANTIC, AND SEXY dates with Brandon, Joe, and Nayte. Here to analyze that with us are writers Gaby Dunn and Allison Raskin. They're also hosts of the podcast Just Between Us! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

According to some men there are two -- no, three levels to understanding any situation, and none of those levels involves apologizing for being an asshole on TV. We’re here to discuss The Bachelorette: Men Tell All with author Kelsey McKinney, Defector Media co-owner and co-host of the new podcast Normal Gossip! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're back with another Bachelor news and gossip episode. And boy, is there a lot to discuss. Tayshia and Zac ran the New York City Marathon together, and then, two weeks later they abruptly broke up. Also, two weeks after announcing her split with Blake and jointly requesting privacy, Katie kicked off an Instagram event she called "12 Days of Messy," in which she assigned Taylor Swift songs to men from her season. It began by assigning her recent ex "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and it ended by announcing that she is now dating John Hersey, a contestant who barely made it to week two. The chaos! There's so much to analyze, unpack, critique, and for wild speculation. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s hometown week for Michelle’s final four! But everything will be taking place in HER hometown. So, we’ll be visiting three pretend hometowns, meeting three red-headed moms, and watching Michelle effortlessly win over four families. Who could resist her? Certainly not us. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Michelle's... sorry, Ms. Young’s journey to find love, the kids are in charge! These plucky fifth graders just want to find a nice man for their teacher -- one with lots of muscles and good fort-building skills. Meanwhile, Ms. Young is taking her dudes on a final whirlwind tour of her hometown. Here to share her insights is writer Esmé Weijun Wang! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to another episode of Love To See It, a podcast about high-maintenance females and the men who generously tolerate them. Joining us to discuss this particular brand of unruly females is new friend of the pod, author of Cultish and co-host of the Sounds Like A Cult podcast, Amanda Montell! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s week four of Michelle’s journey, and already she’s feeling taken for granted by this group of scrubs. We had two one-on-one dates, one group date that was more like a group bro hang, and a brand new villain: Chris S. Here to recap with us is Traci Thomas, host of the literary podcast The Stacks! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Time to recap Bachelor news and gossip! That’s right, we’re here with takes on the breakup of recent Bachelorette Katie Thurston and Blake Moynes, some Deuxmoi chatter and a mildly spoiler-y consideration of the future Bachelor. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re in the Danger Zone. It’s week three of Michelle's journey, and we’ve already had like three drama-splosions! Here to discuss this week of dates is friend of the pod, and our former colleague, HuffPost senior enterprise editor Erin Evans! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The first cuts have been made! Now, onto balls and explosions... Get your head out of the gutter. We’re obviously talking about basketballs and science experiments because we’re here to discuss Michelle’s first group dates! And here to talk about this week’s episode is Stephanie McNeal, a BuzzFeed reporter who covers internet culture. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s the 18th season of The Bachelorette! It’s about basketball, and a shot at love -- specifically Michelle Young’s shot at love! And here to help us ring in the season is a BFF of the pod, who we have missed dearly, actor Allison Williams. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

There are still so many storylines and scandals from the past season that we’re desperate to know more about, and so we definitely wanted to chat with one of the women at the center of some of the juiciest moments of the season -- model, icon Chelsea Vaughn! Chelsea was on Matt’s season of The Bachelor, and when she arrived on the beach, she quickly got caught up in a love triangle -- and perhaps even love tripod -- with Aaron Clancy and some of the other dudes on the beach. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

FINALLY, season 18 of The Bachelorette, starring the one and only Michelle Young!! Yeah, it’s cast bios, baby. Today we’re going to look at, make fun of, thirst over and generally pick apart the cast bios and photos of Michelle’s 30 contestants. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One thing we’ve really missed has been gossip. You just simply don’t get as much of the good stuff when you’re trapped in quarantine. Luckily, we can always count on our Bach Nation internet friends to provide. So today we’ll be gossiping. About people we don’t know who went on reality TV. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It, where it’s no longer almost paradise. We’re here. Paradise has been consummated. And we’re here to figure out who our person is. And, sadly, who is not. Joining us to bid farewell to BIP 7 is host of the podcast Vice News Reports, Arielle Duhaime-Ross. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast that would NEVER circumvent the system. Unless we made a mistake. Here to discuss the various violations to the system that we witnessed this week in Paradise is Liviya Kraemer, the VP of Television for Amy Sherman-Palladino and Dan Palladino’s production company. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Bachelor in Paradise, where metaphors become reality. After weeks of Hurricanes Demi, Mari, Tammy, and so on, a very real tropical storm makes landfall and causes the same amount of damage and disturbance as a woman having negative emotions in public. Joining us to recap this week are romance novelists Tessa Dare and Rebekah Weatherspoon. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We talk to Suzana Somers, the numbers wizard behind the account that makes data just as entertaining as reality TV. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome back to another beautiful week in Paradise. There’s a posse out looking for justice, and after last week, there’s still one more crime that needs to be solved on this beach… Here to make a red-yarn-and-pushpin conspiracy board with us is Justin Cole Adams of Justin Takes The Bach. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome back to the beaches of Paradise, which are growing more hellish by the hour. From Brendan and Pieper to Chris and Alanna, this week’s two episodes were a nonstop trash fire. The beach is ablaze with drama, the flames of betrayal are licking at our feet, and the smoke of the wrong reasons is filling our lungs. With BIP on the precipice of full collapse into the sea, we’re joined by Erin Darke and Daniel Radcliffe. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emma and Claire answer your questions about hypothetical Bachelor strategies, the importance (and difficulty) of friendship, and their favorite Bachelor In Paradise characters so far. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s week 3 of Bachelor in Paradise, and right on schedule, Bachelor in Paradise is turning into Bachelor in Hell. There’s no show if there’s no drama, and there’s no drama if people don’t start betraying, backstabbing, breaking up, and generally acting badly, so that’s exactly what this week is all about. Joining us for this recap is Mr. Mayor star and friend of the pod Vella Lovell! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about a bunch of people who already know each other who show up on a beach and pretend they’re strangers so that someone can make out with their boyfriend 15 feet away from them. Here to plow through the second week of Bachelor in Paradise is Bachelor and BIP veteran, friend of the pod, Ph.D. student of clinical psychology and host of “A Little Help for Our Friends” Jacqueline Trumbull! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to our final recap of FBOY Island, in which we learn who is smart enough to take a mere $50k and a sterling reputation and who is an unredeemable FBOY. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Paradise! We are vaxed and ready to watch some waxed people have a long-awaited hot Bach summer. From our couches, with air conditioning. And chilled rosé. Paradise 2021 kicked off Monday night, bringing fan faves like Serena P, Ivan, Abigail, and Brendan to the beach. Also Queen Victoria and Karl. Here to help us get settled on the beaches of Sayulita is friend of the pod, Vulture recapper, and Last Week Tonight writer Ali Barthwell! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joining us to discuss episodes 4–6 of HBO Max’s reality hit is Xandra Ellin, who writes the truly great newsletter for On the Media. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katie’s journey as Bachelorette has come to an end, in much the same fashion as Hemingway once said he went bankrupt: gradually and then suddenly. We’re joined by longtime friend of the pod Brett Vergara. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

F Boy? F Hi! It’s the HBO Max reality show that sounds like a “30 Rock” subplot that culminates in Jack Donaghy winning sweeps week — but it’s so, so real. And thank F for that. We’re recapping the first three episodes of the season with the hosts of Watch What Crappens, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to a very difficult and complicated episode that has left us completely shattered. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about bro tears and bromance. This week on The Bachelorette, it was Men Tell All time, and we were blessed with lots of both. Plus, some aggressive confrontations, a surprise French kiss, and a gut-wrenching, unexpected departure. Joining us is actor and Bachelor parody recapper Kelly Johns. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast where we dive deep into the world of modern art and floral vulvas. Or as burgeoning painter and art critic Blake Moynes would say, “flowery… with a twist!” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about throwing shade and BLEEPing off. We’re delving deep into the taboo and the edgy, as we get into the later stages of Katie Thurston’s journey to find love. We’re joined by Aubrey Gordon, cohost of the wellness podcast Maintenance Phase and the author of What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re back for part two of the sexiest, most prudish, show on TV: Too Hot To Handle! Kristen Meinzer — host of Movie Therapy and By The Book — is joining us for this very important episode. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It, where we go to the bashball field and beyond to find the perfect strains of masculinity to accompany your commute. Yes, this week was bursting with rippling, muscular aggression — but also, to be fair, some refreshingly non-toxic notes of manhood as well. We’re talking cuddling. We’re talking emotional vulnerability. We’re talking tears shared in brotherhood. And that’s just the beginning! We’re going to discuss all the masculine courting behaviors on display and more with our guests, Victoria Price and Mikayla Bartholomew of The Blckchelorettes podcast! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re talking about our favorite super sexy, super prudish, super anti-hot-vax-summer Netflix reality show, Too Hot to Handle! Season 2 has finally dropped, and today we’re sinking our teeth into the juicy first four episodes. Joining us like a hyena sharing some of the lion’s meat (as Cam would say), is Daryn Carp, host of PeopleTV’s Reality Check, Scissoring Isn’t A Thing and Shaken And Disturbed. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a true crime podcast about a man with a dark secret… a man who was open to the possibility of one day becoming Bachelor. The darkest, dirtiest deed imaginable. This week, the investigation of Thomas’s crimes culminates in a dramatic show trial. This whole episode is one group date and a rose ceremony nested amid hours of angst over Thomas and a suitor’s return. Even if it felt like a lot of filler, that didn’t stop us from having over 12 pages of notes to discuss between just the two of us! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When in the course of Bachelor events it becomes necessary for a former Bachelorette to dissolve the bonds that tie her to the franchise and write a piercing, heart-wrenching essay about the racism she experienced during her time being affiliated with the show... we must talk about it, with help from HuffPost's senior national editor Erin Evans. Read Rachel Lindsay's full piece here: https://www.vulture.com/article/rachel-lindsay-the-bachelor-franchise.html To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Trigger warning: In this episode, we talk about sexual assault in the context of Katie’s discussion of it in this week’s episode of The Bachelorette. This discussion starts around 40:00. If you or someone you know have been affected by sexual assault, you are not alone. RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline is here 24/7 with free, anonymous help. Call 800-656-HOPE or visit online.rainn.org. Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about labor organizing in the entertainment industry. It’s so difficult to unionize the Bachelorette contestants because of high turnover and the fact that they aren’t technically employees, but solidarity finds a way. Last night, not for the first time and hopefully not for the last, the show’s contestants tried to come together as one unit to meet management at the bargaining table. It was a beautiful moment for unions, but also a brief one. Today we will chart the rise and fall of this Bachelorette union, which quickly fell apart once the men were made aware that they couldn’t negotiate to each have a full Katie. We’re joined today by Bachelor alum, blogger, and opera singer Sharleen Joynt and her husband and cohost of their fantastic podcast, Dear Shandy, Andy Levine! You can listen to Dear Shandy here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-shandy/id1525795747 Learn more about the Santa Ana Pueblo and their lands here: https://nativeamerica.travel/tribes/pueblo-of-santa-ana and https://santaana-nsn.gov/about/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about Western-themed erotic cinema. This week, we’re examining a modern classic: season 17, episode 2 of The Bachelorette. Katie’s search for a lover begins in earnest this week, and she’s ready to lasso herself a muddy cowboy with purple fluffy handcuffs. This episode was very sex-positive, very cowboy-positive, and of course, very dramatic. To dig through this week’s recap with us, we’re joined by longtime friend of the pod, Bachelorette alum and attorney Michael Garofola. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s that time of year. 82% humidity in the 90-degree air, hordes of shrieking cicadas roaming the Eastern Seaboard, the dawning realization that you waited too long to reinstall your window AC unit — and, of course, the return of The Bachelorette. Now with 100% less Chris Harrison and 100% more forced references to sex toys! That’s right, Katie Thurston’s season premiere, baby. We’re here to dig into it with our wonderful guest, Molly Bernard! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After over half a decade podcasting about The Bachelor as Here to Make Friends, we have a new home and a new name! We’re extremely happy to be here at Stitcher, and to be launching Love to See It, a weekly podcast about The Bachelor and beyond. You may be wondering, what is this show going to be? We hope it will be a space for the same kind of free flowing commentary, snark and analysis about The Bachelor that we’ve always done, a space where we can chat with our favorite comedians, podcasters, critics, and Bachelor alums about all the minutiae of each episode. And to kick it off, we introduce you to the cast of Katie’s season! We’d love to hear from you about what you’d like to hear more of on the show! You can reach us at [email protected]. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re going to begin this week’s podcast with a discussion on Taylor Nolan’s old tweets that resurfaced over the weekend and what accountability, consequence and empathy look like within the community of The Bachelor franchise. The tweets, which included hateful language toward a plethora of communities, were shocking, harmful, hurtful, triggering and absolutely indefensible. Later in the episode, we discuss the Women Tell All special with style icon and contestant on this season of The Bachelor, Chelsea Vaughn. Our Calls to Action this week: Stop AAPI Hate, an organization which includes a hate crime tracker, founded in the wake of rising and alarming violence toward Asian Americans during the COVID-19 pandemic https://donate.givedirect.org/?cid=14711 The Asian American Federation, which specifically helps fight racism and for equality for NYC’s Asian community https://www.classy.org/give/253719/#!/donation/checkout Center for Disability Rights, a not-for-profit, community-based advocacy and service organization for people with all types of disabilities. https://cdrnys.org/donate/ The Disability Justice Culture Club, a collective of disabled and/or neurodivergent queer people of color operating out of East Oakland. https://bit.ly/3hONYqp The Trevor Project, which provides resources, support and a crisis hotline for LGBTQ+ youth. https://give.thetrevorproject.org/give/63307/#!/donation/checkout?c_src=EOY20&c_src2=headerdonatebutton The National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, a non-profit, all volunteer, fat-rights organization dedicated to protecting the rights and improving the quality of life for fat people. https://naafa.org/joindonate Jews For Racial and Economic Justice, a NYC-based progressive Jewish organization that fights against anti-Semitism alongside other marginalized communities. https://secure.everyaction.com/MItl2aYLe0-_DmwDEiGULA2 The Auschwitz-Birkenau memorial and museum, http://auschwitz.org/en/donate/ The Native American Rights Fund, which provides legal assistance to Indian tribes, organizations, and individuals nationwide who might otherwise have gone without adequate representation. https://secure.narf.org/page/71129/donate/1?_ga=2.154578488.1462526717.1614619917-1113695369.1614619917 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

SPOILERS ALERT We will be discussing reporting that includes spoilers. Please be warned. Skip forward to approximately 16:00 to get to the spoiler-free recap. Joining us to discuss our reporting on Matt James’ statement from last night is HuffPost Senior Enterprise Editor Erin Evans. Read our piece: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/matt-james-the-bachelor-race-problem_n_60342be7c5b67c32961fef84?7jk It’s hometowns week on The Bachelor, and you know what they say: home is in Nemacolin, where you all live forever now. And so do your families! It’s like Noah’s ark -- each woman gets to save 2-3 loved ones from the pandemic. Just like Tayshia, Matt doesn’t get to actually travel to his ladies’ hometowns, but he does get to meet some parents this week. Here to discuss all the moms and all the sisters, we’re joined by Caroline Moss, host of the podcast Gee Thanks, Just Bought It! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices