Love to See It with Emma and Claire

We're less than one week away from Rachel Lindsay's season of The Bachelorette and we're so excited. To kick things off, Claire and Emma are joined by Bachelor alums Olivia Caridi and Alexis Waters for a special live taping at AOL BUILD (@BUILDSeriesNYC). They share their expectations for Rachel's season, their thoughts on what we've seen of the guys so far, and dish on some off season gossip. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nick’s love journey has come to an awkward, snowy conclusion. Claire Fallon, Emma Gray, and guest Phoebe Robinson discuss husky puppies, horseback riding, Santa Claus, ill-advised racial jokes and more highs and lows from the season finale and After The Final Rose. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this episode ― taped live from AOL BUILD, pre-finale and pre-blizzard ― Claire Fallon, Emma Gray, Leigh Blickley and guest Olivia Caridi assess Nick’s performance as The Bachelor, recap the most shocking season in “Bachelor” history, plan Chris Harrison’s future, and discuss the concept of hate-watching. Check out the discussion and check back tomorrow for our full recap of the season finale! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emma & Claire are joined by 'Bachelor' super-fan Allison Williams of HBO's 'Girls' and the new blockbuster film 'Get Out.' They reflect on Nick's thoughtfulness as the bachelor and the feeling of 'Women Tell All' whiplash. Allison offers her advice for the contestants as well as the producers. Around the 40:00 minute mark they switch gears into 'Get Out' – Allison reveals some of the film's easter eggs, dissects audience reactions, and explains the psychological layers required to play her character Rose. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Claire and Emma are joined by 'Bachelor' season 18 alum Sharleen Joynt. They talk snow angels, tearful goodbyes, single-serve cheese pasta, and more notable moments from Episode 10 and the “Women Tell All” special. All we’re looking for is a little bit of empathy ― let’s see if we can find it. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this bonus interview, Claire & Emma are joined over the phone by Season 21 fan favorite Kristina Schulman. They discuss the friendships amongst the cast, missing scenes left on the cutting room floor, the forthcoming 'Women Tell All', and much more. Enjoy! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray talk whiskey, fur coats, turtleneck sweaters, choose-your-own-adventure books, and more notable moments from Episode 9, Part 1. This is our feminist rant ― here we go! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bonus! Claire & Emma are joined by season 21 resident mental health counselor Taylor Nolan. They discuss Corinne, the voodoo bayou two-on-one date, life after reality TV, and Rachel being named Bachelorette. We hope you will enjoy! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with guests Max Godnick and Sam Usher of The Bachelor Dudes, talk olive repulsion, luxury sweatsuits, paternal blessings and more notable moments from the hometown dates on Episode 8. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with special guest Danny Hoyt of AfterBuzz TV, talk cheese cube towers, not being great enough, opening up emotionally on boats and more high notes from Episode 7. Plus, a breakdown of the announcement of the new “Bachelorette.” Get ready for the sex charm. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Surprise! This episode, Claire sits down with the man himself. In their conversation, Nick offers a thoughtful defense of the season’s villain, Corinne, and reflects on how his experience as a franchise veteran has influenced his showing as the season lead. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Claire Fallon and special guest Kate Dries, deputy editor of Jezebel.com, talk through two-on-one fever, drunk beach volleyball, light sexual choking, the importance of having someone to bring you lobster dip by the pool ― and other detritus from Episode 6. Open up your earholes and take listen! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Finally, this week, we got the last couple standing from Paradise S3 – Evan Bass & Carly Waddell– in the studio! And it turns out, Evan and Carly are freaking delightful! They love musical theater, are game to poke fun at themselves and gave us some great insight on Nick Viall’s "journey." ;) We hope you'll enjoy this special bonus conversation as much as we enjoyed having it! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with guest and Vulture recapper Ali Barthwell, talk plantation romance, ahistorical voodoo, Bachelor Nation’s new BFF Rachel, and other highlights from Episode 5. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with guest and former “Bachelor” star Caila Quinn, talk shoveling cow poopy, the dangers of poor finger circulation, juicy corn cob ladies, and other highlights from Episode 4. Do you have the emotional maturity to handle a recap of this week’s episode? Whether you run a multimillion-dollar company or not, join us to find out! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with guest Jada Yuan of New York Magazine, talk Nickathlons, planned dancing, bouncy castle hook-ups and other lowlights from episode three of the most shocking season in “Bachelor” history. Get your lemon salad and sliced cucumber ready: There are Backstreet Boys serenades and rose ceremony naps to discuss. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

‘Bachelor’ season 20 star Olivia Caridi joins Claire & Emma to recap Nick V’s second episode as The Bachelor. They discuss topless Corinne, Danielle M’s sad backstory, Josephine’s slap, and Nick’s misplay with Liz. Also, Olivia clarifies why we should all love a good Bachelor villain. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former ‘Bachelorette’ star Michael Garofola joins Claire & Emma to recap Nick V’s season premiere of The Bachelor. They discuss the quirky contestant entrances, the quick exits, some familiar faces, and of course the left-shark dolphin scandal. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bachelor Dudes Max Godnick and Sam Usher join in and help us learn about the many diverse women in the cast. We also discuss the cast’s shared love of dolphins, bad tattoos, and then set personal goals for the season’s contestants. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ben Rosenfield & Lisa Rotondi, star couple of the short-lived dating show Coupled, join the pod to talk about what makes for good reality dating television. Later in the episode, Emma & Claire chat with Jared Haibon over the phone about the epic love triangle on this season of Paradise. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Claire & Emma are joined by Izzy Goodkind to recap the season finale of ‘Paradise.’ They discuss the engagements, the breakups, and Vizzy. Later, Caila Quinn returns to chat with Emma and reflect on the drama linking herself, Jared, & Ashley I. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emma & Claire are joined by ‘Bachelor’ alum Ashley Spivey to recap episode five of Paradise! They discuss the twins’ exit, the return of Wells, Brett’s subtle creepiness, Nick Viall’s ‘Bachelor’ announcement, and address the ongoing concern about Josh & Amanda. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emma & Claire are joined by ‘Bachelor’ universe alum Michael Garofola to recap episode 4 of ‘Bachelor In Paradise.’ They discuss Ashley I’s problematic attempts to sabotage Caila, her unusual request to stick around longer in Paradise, and how Michael can relate to Vinny as Izzy’s interest fades. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emma & Claire are joined by "Bachelor In Paradise" cast member Caila Quinn (yes, the one with the angel hair), to recap week 3 of "BIP." They discuss what really went down between Jared, Caila and Ashley I., Evan's hospital visit -- and confrontation with Josh -- and, last but not least, why you should never ever sexualize poutine. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emma & Claire are joined by Jada Yuan, contributing editor at New York Magazine. They recap this week’s dates, exits, and new arrivals, and discuss the irresponsibility of ABC bringing back Josh Murray. Later in the show they are joined by Sarah Herron, Paradise’s first feminist hero, to talk about her showdown with Chad, and her spoiler-free thoughts about the remainder of the season. Finally they chat about her organization SheLift. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emma & Claire are joined by author and screenwriter Tracy McMillan to recap the premiere episode from season three of Bachelor In Paradise. They discuss Lace’s new mindset, dissect Daniel’s unfortunate misogyny, suggest an ideal match for Amanda, and finally, unpack Chad’s quick exit from Paradise. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode, hosts Emma & Claire are joined by Bachelor season 20 alum Olivia Caridi. They discuss JoJo's breakup with Robby, Jordan's tasteful ring choice, and Chris Harrison's pushiness on After The Final Rose. Later in the show, they are joined by Reality Steve to consider whether JoJo & Jordan's engagement will last, and enjoy some non-spoiler teasers from the imminent Bachelor In Paradise season to come. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After weeks of badgering him on Twitter, fan favorite Wells Adams joins Emma & Claire to recap the Men Tell All. He shares his insights & secrets from behind the scenes, breaks down some of the more memorable moments of the season, and helps to analyze Chad’s return to our television screens. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode, Emma & Claire are joined by The Bachelor Dudes, Max Godnick and Sammy Smith, to recap JoJo’s fantasy suite dates. They discuss the show's cultural insensitivity in Thailand, say goodbye to Luke & Chase, and dissect one epic feminism fail – Chad’s twitter feed. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode, Emma & Claire are joined by “Bachelor” season 20 alum Caila Quinn. They breakdown the hometown dates, discuss Robby’s mama leaking his ex drama, and contemplate Luke’s slow transformation into the man on the cover of a Western-themed romance novel – all the while reflecting on Caila’s journey on season 20 of The Bachelor. Finally, they catch up with Caila about her life as new New Yorker. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this week’s episode, host Claire Fallon recaps the seventh episode of Season 12 with guest hosts Emily Warman of AOL Partner Studio and HuffPost Tech editor Damon Beres. (Co-host Emma Gray will be back next week!) They discuss gaucho outfits, whether mouth-stuffing potato-based activities can be romantic, and how JoJo will choose between four roughly identical-looking suitors for the remainder of the season. Later, the delightful Jamie Otis of The Bachelor, Bachelor Pad and Married at First Sight joins Emma & Claire to talk about married life and her new book Wifey 101: Everything I Got Wrong After Finding Mr. Right. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week ABC aired a rerun of “The Bachelorette” instead of a new episode. So in this bonus Here To Make Friends podcast, Emma & Claire dive deep into every Bachelor fan’s other favorite show: Lifetime’s “UnREAL” and are joined by series star Shiri Appleby. Later they discuss Fox’s new reality show “Coupled” and address the vast accumulation of gossip & news concerning Bachelor Nation contestants from seasons past and present. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this week's Here To Make Friends, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the sixth episode of Season 12. They discuss Chase's lack of facial expressions, Jordan and James Taylor's "entitled" conflict, and give a proper send-off to our biggest "Bachelorette" crush, Wells. They’re joined by HuffPost resident "Bachelorette" fan Julia Bush for her commentary -- and some special insights on what it's really like at a casting call for "The Bachelor." See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this week's Here To Make Friends, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the fifth episode of Season 12 -- aka The End Of The Chad. We'll discuss Chad's exit and his enduring social media legacy, Alex's many insecurities, and the infamous In Touch article about JoJo's ex. They’re joined by "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" star Vella Lovell, for her stellar "Bachelorette" commentary and some tidbits about season 2 of "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend." See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the third and fourth episodes of Season 12 -- also known as the "Chaddageddon." They discuss Ben Roethlisberger's questionable cameo, the dudes' awkward sex stories and, of course, Chad's burning hot rage and dismemberment threats. Writer Kevin Nguyen joins us to chat about Episode 3 and former "Bachelorette" contestant Michael Garofola jumps in for Episode 4, both to recap and share his insider knowledge of the dreaded 2-on-1 date. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the second episode of Season 12. We'll discuss the appeal of firefighters, why "The Bachelorette" is TV's greatest sport and Chad's hot garbage MRA tendencies with opera singer, writer and former "Bachelor" contestant Sharleen Joynt. Later in the show, Emma & Claire talk to Lifetime's "UnREAL" co-creator Sarah Gertrude Shapiro and showrunner Carol Barbee about the second season of the show and how race plays out on reality TV. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon are joined by Emily Warman to recap the best moments from JoJo's season premiere episode. And later, they're joined by former Bachelorette Andi Dorfman to talk about her new book It’s Not Okay, her two very public reality TV breakups, and her life in New York. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It feels like just yesterday that we were watching a shot of the bathroom door and listening to JoJo weep as Ben H. admitted that he also loved Lauren B. But JoJo is back to find love, and Here To Make Friends is ready for the journey! For this season preview, co-hosts Emma and Claire are joined by Max Godnick of The Bachelor Dudes, to break down the cast bios for JoJo’s coming season, and pick their favorites to win her heart. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ben Higgins and his fiancé, Lauren Bushnell spoke with co-hosts Emma and Claire IN-PERSON. This is not a drill. The beautiful couple discuss their experience on the show, their least favorite "Bachelor" buzzwords and they offer some priceless validation for this podcast. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ben "Nice Guy" Higgins finds true love ... or at least a giant, ill-advised Neil Lane diamond ring. Actress, writer and "After Paradise" host, Jenny Mollen, joins Claire and Emma to discuss Ben's big proposal, why Ben's mom was the season highlight and ABC's sneak attack choice for next Bachelorette. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Bachelor Dudes join hosts Emma and Claire to recap the one where the women tell all... or at least, some. Together, they discuss the show's gross race issues (#TeamJubilee4Lyfe), Olivia's attempted redemption and who the next Bachelorette might be. After the recap, Emma interview The Bachelor and Shark Tank director, Ken Fuchs, to learn how the sausage is made. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emily Maynard Johnson, former Bachelorette and current author stops by to discuss her new book and share some behind-the-scenes Bachelor secrets. But first, co-hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap Episode 9 of "The Bachelor," Season 20. They discuss Ben's brutal breakup with Caila and the double -- reciprocal -- "I love you." See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former Bachelorette, Andi Dorfman, joins co-hosts Emma and Claire to discuss Ben's day of potential fatherhood, how idyllic Ohio looks and the many hyper-masculine men in Jojo's life. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former Bachelorette and Bachelor In Paradise contestants and The Host With The Most join co-hosts Claire and Emma to discuss the Janner wedding, their pick for Bachelorette and so much more. Plus, Claire and Emma recap the allure of Warsaw, Indiana (or the lack thereof), Ben's breakups with Emily and Becca, and the totally un-subtle McDonalds product placement. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kristen Baldwin joins Emma and Claire to discuss Caila's confusing attempt at confessing her love, the "aggressive" pigs, Leah's last-ditch villainy and Olivia's downfall. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"The Bachelor" had some unlikely overlaps with the Iowa Caucuses during episode 5. Co-host Claire Fallon is joined by guest Erin Gloria Ryan, deputy editor at Vocativ, to discuss the aforementioned overlap, Ben's magnetic pull toward classroom settings, and Jubilee's untimely exit. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former Bachelor contestant and opera singer, Sharleen Joynt joins hosts Emma and Claire to discuss Olivia's talent(s), the decoupling of The Twins, "sex panthers" and Ben's unflinching ability to manage the emotions of the women around him. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Things got ugly on this week’s episode. Hosts Claire and Emma discuss all of the racially charged microaggressions Jubilee had to deal with, what constitutes a tragedy and the merits of "bad toes.” They’re also joined by Dr. Love, the scientist behind last episode’s LoveLab date. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kate Dries, the Managing Editor of Jezebel joins hosts Emma and Claire. They discuss running through the halls of Ben’s high school, going to lunch class, and having your smell analyzed on national TV. Also, Lace. Later in the episode, they share a phone conversation between Emma and someone from Ben's past. The conversation may change the way you think about him. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Does Ben have a distaste for brunettes? How come none of the ‘normal’ contestants were chosen? Will Lace continue on an alcohol-fueled downward spiral? Hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon are joined by Sam Usher and Max Godnick of The Bachelor Dudes to make sense all of the drama from Ben H’s season premiere episode. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices