Love to See It with Emma and Claire

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This week, we’re taking a little break from “Bachelorette” chaos to dip our toes into some other reality shows. We sampled Hulu’s recent yacht-based, class-war-themed dating show “Love Overboard,” as well as HGTV’s Bachelor mansion renovation show, “Bachelor Mansion Takeover.” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(Trigger Warning: Domestic violence and emotional abuse) If you or someone you know has been impacted by domestic violence, you can call 800-799-7233, or text BEGIN to 88788. Please listen to this episode with care. Jessi Draper and Jordan Ngatikaura’s rocky marriage has been one of the most upsetting storylines on “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” for the past two seasons – especially the public revelation that not only did Jessi have a brief, tepid affair with Marciano from “Vanderpump Villa,” but Jordan had been self-admittedly emotionally abusive to her for years. So the fandom applauded the news last week that Jordan had filed for divorce. Yesterday, Jessi’s interview on Call Her Daddy dropped, and she spared no details, opening up about learning that Jordan had tried to hire escorts, her belief that he attended sex parties, and the chilling moment she realized that he was trying to film her angry reaction to him blackmailing her with threats of revealing her affair on TikTok. At the end of the episode, we also got into some news updates regarding Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortensen, as well as rumors that ABC and WBD might be holding out hope that they can air “The Bachelorette” season at some point in the future. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(Trigger Warning: Domestic violence) If you or someone you know has been impacted by domestic violence, you can call 800-799-7233, or text BEGIN to 88788. Please listen to this episode with care. On Thursday afternoon, in the wake of some pretty horrifying video footage of a 2023 domestic incident between Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortensen, Disney announced that it would not be moving forward with the 22nd season of “The Bachelorette.” In this episode, we talk through the lead-up to the cancellation and the fallout, the era of “messy” women on reality TV, the network’s culpability in all of this, and our own. We tried to be as thoughtful, nuanced and responsible as possible in this discussion, and hold a lot of hard truths at once. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s almost time for Taylor Frankie Paul’s journey on “The Bachelorette” to officially begin, which means that it’s time for us to dive into the cast bios. Twenty-two strapping men who fall broadly into the categories of Former Athlete, Surf Guy, Cowboy and self-proclaimed Mama’s Boy (with a side of Dakota Mortensen lookalikes), will be wooing TFP. And turns out, we had a lot to say about them, despite knowing very little. We also discuss the “Bachelorette” reunion / season preview that aired after The Oscars, as well as the social media rollout of the official cast announcements. This season might end up being a trainwreck, but it absolutely won’t be boring. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The latest ‘Love Is Blind’ reunion brought together pod squads past and present, so Vanessa could celebrate “our marrieds” and the growing “LIB” baby boom. But the focus was on this season’s drama – and there was plenty of it. A very red-faced, bob-haired Chris tried to repair, or at least not do further damage to, his image. A polo-shirt-wearing Alex tried to out-lawyer Ashley and the hosts. Amber and Jordan air their grievances. Devonta has some big news – and not just that he’s living with Alex in Austin. But we also do get some bright spots: Jess hard-launches a new relationship, Vic and Christine give the most pure marital updates, and one couple who seemed to break up reveals that they are in fact still together! And perhaps the brightest spot of all: The Lacheys finally learned to ask some follow-up questions. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s wedding time on “Love Is Blind”! Five couples are marriage-bound when the day dawns, but by reception hour, just two to four (depending on how you read it) are still standing. We finally get Mike’s answer to Emma’s “I do,” and head into two deeply ominous weddings – including the franchise’s first ceremony fueled purely by mutual hatred – as well as a pre-altar, one-sided break-up. Finally, we get a taste of romance, as the finale concludes with one purely happy marriage. We also dive into some pod squad gossip at the top of the episode, including Alex’s public apology to Tim Howard and more uncomfortable revelations about Devonta’s relationship history. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this grab bag bonus episode, we dip into some thoughts on the “Traitors” reunion, including Candiace’s dubious insinuation that Rob cheated and Colton’s moment in the hot seat. Then we turn to “Love Is Blind,” catching up with two of our favorite ladies from this season, Emma Betsinger and Jessica Barrett, who each have a lot to say about some of the most controversial and shocking moments from their storylines. Emma weighs in on the (at times harsh!) audience reaction to her maternal ambivalence, and Jess reacts to some post-filming revelations about Chris and tells us what she thinks was really going on when he told her he usually dates women who “go to pilates every day.” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, the finale of “The Traitors” season 4 came to its most inevitable conclusion. Johnny and Tara, TWO OLYMPIANS, IN CASE YOU FORGOT, gave it their level best to mount a counter-defense and peel Maura away from Rob and Eric. Maura flirted with critical thinking, but ultimately put her faith in the one man who would surely never ever ever let her down. (Note: Our recap of the reunion will be coming early next week!) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s been an eventful week for ‘Love Is Blind’ Ohio! First, we get into some off-screen news and gossip, like the shocking phone call released by Chris’s ex and a very telling interview with Jess, as well as some discussion of the audience reactions to Emma’s sister Hannah. Then we dive into the latest two episodes, which feature the grand conclusion of Chris’s mixer crashout, the dress and suit fittings, and the final dates before the altar. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This penultimate episode of “The Traitors” season 4 was absolutely maddening. Tara wakes up and has a singular great instinct. But, unfortunately, it’s hard to make a ruthless play when you trust yourself less than you trust everyone else. Can anyone stop Rob now? With Maura by his side, probably not. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*This is Part 2 of a two-part recap! If you missed Part 1, scroll back in your feed.* The second drop “Love Is Blind” vibe shift has arrived, and now that the couples are back in Ohio, the masks are coming off. Some of the couples – or at least Vic and Christine – are still gliding smoothly toward the altar. Others have become embroiled in passive-aggressive disagreements about housekeeping standards. Alex and Ashley come out as MAGA, and Chris comes out as a love-bombing misogynist who has complete contempt for any woman who isn’t disciplining her body with daily Crossfit. And we almost forgot Amber and Jordan were even there! Petition to go back to five couples next season? To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*This is Part 1 of a two-part recap!* The second drop “Love Is Blind” vibe shift has arrived, and now that the couples are back in Ohio, the masks are coming off. Some of the couples – or at least Vic and Christine – are still gliding smoothly toward the altar. Others have become embroiled in passive-aggressive disagreements about housekeeping standards. Alex and Ashley come out as MAGA, and Chris comes out as a love-bombing misogynist who has complete contempt for any woman who isn’t disciplining her body with daily Crossfit. And we almost forgot Amber and Jordan were even there! Petition to go back to five couples next season? To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on “The Traitors,” after Candiace’s banishment last week, her Faithful security blanket Johnny is under scrutiny. Time for his secret friendship with Tara to bear fruit – or for the two winsome Olympians to blow their cover in the most adorably unstrategic way. Meanwhile, Rob is continuing to bro out with his dude alliance, especially his new Traitor pal, Eric. Mr. Magic Ears is trying to find his footing as a new Baby Traitor, and production is not trying to make it easy for him. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the second half of the first drop of “LIB” season 10, it’s time to get serious. One feckless suitor is so indecisive he manages to fumble both of his lovely ladies. But the rest of our ebullient Ohioans sort out their love triangles, pop the question, respond with a hearty “let’s go!”, and jet off to the group honeymoon in Cabo (or, in the case of one fortunate couple, a solo retreat in Malibu). On their luxurious getaways, they can finally get down to business: prolific sex and passive-aggressive conflict! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Love Is Blind” is heading to the great state of Ohio, and no one is more excited than hometown hero himself, Nick Lachey. And honestly, there’s a lot to dig into in the beginning of this season – especially because we are following SO MANY different characters. We do our best to keep all of the various bearded white men from completely blending together, discuss who we think is this season’s Golden Couple, and explore what happens when you give a man who is incapable of making decisions a choice between two excellent women. (Since Netflix dropped six episodes at once, we decided to split our recap into two parts. The second half will be out later this week.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, a very special guest joins our “Traitors” recap to discuss a big episode for The Housewife Slayer: Peter Shamshiri, co-host of the If Books Could Kill and 5-4 podcasts! We get into the episode’s big Candiace vs. Rob stand-off, the recruitment at the end, and discuss what the future might hold for this season. But first, we spend a little time close-reading the new casting announcement for Chris Harrison’s alarming trad-coded dating show. The vibes… are dark. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week’s episode of “The Traitors” is rife with Traitor-On-Traitor violence. Seven weeks in, the fragile alliance within the turret has been severed, all because Rob went for his bros over his hoes. As the snake in the turret gobbles eggs and throws shade at icon and legend Lisa Rinna, Candiace is ready to turn the tables. Meanwhile, Colton can’t wait to be the big dude in charge again. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s been awhile since we did a news & gossip episode, so we had a lot to catch up on! We start by talking about the deeply heartening wave of reality TV stars who have spoken up about ICE operations in Minneapolis. Then we got into some off-screen drama from “The Traitors,” “The Golden Bachelor,” “Summer House” and “Love Is Blind” – the ongoing backlash against Colton Underwood and the show’s apparent attempt to tamp it down, yet another Mel interview in which he calls Cindy a quitter, some divorces and engagements, and more! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s episode 6 of “The Traitors,” and things are really starting to cook. Colton is instigating a full-on war with Lisa Rinna and being extra dickish in the process. Johnny Weir tries to rally a group of Faithful Faithfuls to take control of the game, with mixed success. And Rob Rausch starts to get his game in trouble because he doesn’t want to vote for his sweet bros! Basically…it’s a whole lot of delicious chaos. And nothing is more delicious than ending on a cliffhanger involving a murder in plain sight. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices