Life After MLM

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!Welcome to Day 5! I am so excited to bring you this chat with my friend Elora Dodd, who you may recognize from her many online personas at the "Online One Room Schoolhouse". She's a powerhouse of comedy, historical oddities and autism education. We talked for over 4 hours and I cut it down to this (there is even more on Patreon!). Not only is Elora a wealth of compassionate information, she's hilarious, so when she wanted to make an episode with me, I jumped at the chance to chat! We cover some basics, and then dive into how MLM's prey on the parents of autistics and the dangers that come with it.Show NotesOur Google Doc to follow along! - https://docs.google.com/document/d/10h18V7euR-nZeYA1dcGkDEURXrHaTayddZMWrY9LpQM/edit?usp=sharingOperation Santa - https://about.usps.com/holidaynews/operation-santa.htmElora's LinkTree - https://linktr.ee/Online1RoomSchoolhouseI am Autism (CW: fearmongering) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UgLnWJFGHQOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!Day 4 brings us quite a haul! Not only do we chat about some shady stuff a lot of us have been participating in recently, but also news about an MLM closing it's doors and the aftermath of it's victims and how to support them. But then we've got some juicy MLM History, with a scam I hadn't even heard of, so The Shoe Fairy came by to tell us all about it and what she had to do to save her own ass.Show NotesFacebook post RE: Matilda Jane - https://www.facebook.com/anniebeth17/posts/pfbid02d65NEcCWZBhHNF8RzmpjqoT7Sy5HMNU4HjYAEDSNAuH1CRKEZ7jq8K5AKWjL83i4lWhat You Should Know Before Using the Lensa AI App - https://www.wired.com/story/lensa-ai-magic-avatars-security-tips/ampChandra Prescod-Weinstein has advice to help you protect yourself on Lensa - https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1599536831045197824To The Nines Scam - https://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/to-the-nines-kenny-davis-iamaa-direct-scam/Kenny Davis Indictment - https://dentonrc.com/kenny-j-davis-2016-to-the-nines-indictment-pdf/pdf_75b8cb6a-150a-56a2-8082-b03443603a7b.htmlOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!Day 3 of our 8 Days of Holiday Magic brings a chat with Jana Rogers, the owner of Silver Lining Lessons, creators of the Loaded Tea WITHOUT the MLM. You may recognize Jana from her how-to videos, where she teaches people how to make those expensive drinks, without the expensive price tag, with things you can buy at the store down the road. No MLM, or cult joining required. Along the way she's learned quite a bit about Herbalife and their reps, The Holiday Job Scam!Show NotesCareer OneStop - https://www.careeronestop.org/jobsearch/findjobs/state-job-banks.aspxSilver Lining Lessons - https://www.silverlininglessons.com/Jana on IG - https://www.instagram.com/silverlininglessons/Jana on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@silverlininglessonsThe Hidden Truth of Loaded Teas - https://www.tastingtable.com/822612/the-hidden-truth-of-loaded-teas/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!Day 2 of Holiday Magic! And after chatting with Sarah, I was inspired to dive deeper into Keith and his evil origin story. No surprise that it starts with Amway, drives straight through a pyramid scheme and ends at sex cult leader. Plus, I share with you another holiday scam, this time The Gift Giving Pyramid Scheme! Buckle up!Shows NotesKeith's Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_RaniereToni Natalie tells about her life with Keith Raniere - https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2018/03/08/rochester-woman-battles-nxivm-keith-raniere/360847002/Keith's Love Letter to Toni Natalie - https://frankreport.com/2015/12/31/ranieres-love-letter-to-woman-he-tried-to-destroy/Keith Raniere and his Pyramid Schemes - https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/keith-raniere-pyramid-schemes/Consumers' Buyline - https://frankreport.com/2022/07/27/raniere-consumers-buyline-was-the-most-misunderstood-there-was-no-fraud/Keith Raniere used MLM to Attract Victims - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/nxivm-keith-raniere-used-multilevel-marketing-to-attract-victims.htmlKeith Raniere Bio - https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/keith-raniereKeith & Amway - https://mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.com/2018/03/no-where-did-ex-amway-adherent-keith.htmlKeith Raniere The Leader of the Nxivm Sex Cult - https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2019/05/15/keith-raniere-the-leader-of-the-nxivm-sex-cult/?sh=77f9a53835a9Ample Evidence to Justify Investigation - https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Ample-evidence-to-justify-investigation-3337402.php#taboola-1Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic! Day 1 is the always lovely, spunky and badass Sarah Edmondson. You may know her from her work on HBO's The Vow, her book Scarred, or her podcast she produces with her husband Nippy, A Little Bit Culty. If you haven't heard Sarah or her story, buckle up! From her early beginnings in MLM to her takedown of the dangerous cult NXIVM, she's a force to be reckoned with.Sarah on IG - https://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson/A Little Bit Culty IG - https://www.instagram.com/alittlebitculty/A Little Bit Culty Podcast - https://alittlebitculty.com/HBO's The Vow - https://amzn.to/3ijHZOXDouble Bind - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bindOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening. All month we asked for your #igotout stories and boy did you deliver! From comment threads on Instagram and TikTok to the emails, and messages you sent us, I invited Danielle of From Huns to Humans to come help me tell them all! They teamed up with us this year as well to bring you even more cult focused content, and I wanted to invite them on the show to share their experiences and conversations too. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this episode, your stories will help so many.Show NotesFrom Huns to Humans I Got Out Part 2 - Coming Soon!!From Huns to Humans Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-huns-to-humans/id1585142247IGotOut - https://www.igotout.org/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening. Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!Gerette Buglion spent over 18 years in a cult that manipulated her dreams and kept her stuck in an endless chain of enlightenment masquerading as a cult. Since leaving her everyday cult, she's written a book about her experiences, helped found a movement, changed countless lives and encourages other cult survivors to embrace their story, by using an incredibly powerful tool, the written word.Want to take one of Gerette's classes? Join the FREE Writing to Reckon for MLM Survivors here!! Dec 4th, 2022 @ 5pm EST.Show Notes:Gerette's website - https://www.gerettebuglion.com/IGotOut - https://www.igotout.org/An Everyday Cult by Gerette Buglion - https://amzn.to/3AKGcJ0Dr. Dan Siegel - https://drdansiegel.com/Lisa from IGotOut on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-93-i-got-out-lisa/id1585142247?i=1000586691304Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening. Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!In 1997 the largest mass suicide on US soil happened as the Hale-Bopp Comet passed over earth. The tragedy was a result of the belief that evil space aliens were holding humans back from reaching their true potential, deeply held by the religious organization Heaven's Gate, founded in 1974 by leaders Ti and Do. One of the earliest members, Sharon Welsh just happened to be the aunt of my friend and fellow podcaster, Leslie Fear. So I asked Leslie if she would come help me tell the story of Heaven's Gate, using her never been told insider perspective.Show Notes:Follow Leslie on IG - https://www.instagram.com/lesliefear/Hale-Bopp, Heaven's Gate and the Largest Mass Suicide on US Soil - https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2022/03/hale-bopp-heavens-gate-and-the-largest-mass-suicide-on-u-s-soil/Hale-Bopp Comet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Hale%E2%80%93BoppHeaven's Gate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group)Do's Final Exit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdGXDQ_8bSAStudent Exit Statements - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHz9it70TdIOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Check out how you can save 10% on your first month of online therapy here. This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. Don't forget to submit your cult stories at outofmlm.info! Spencer Schneider spent 23 years of his life in an elite Manhattan secret society, hidden in plain sight, and operating under everyone's noses called "School". The founder, an eccentric washed up actress named Sharon Gans was obsessed with the private lives of her followers, abusing them for her own sick satisfaction. Though not an MLM, the parallels of the two organizations feel dangerously familiar, and Spencer is here to help us expose them.Show Notes:Spencer's website - https://www.spencer-schneider.com/Follow Spencer on IG - https://www.instagram.com/officialspencerschneider/Manhattan Cult Story: My Unbelievable True Story of Sex, Crimes, Chaos, and Survival - https://amzn.to/3U2Gr9vCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. Everyone knows about Amway, but what about the Tools Cult? It's been mentioned in many Amway episodes, but it's entire weight was largely unknown. So when fan of the show, and American Historian Sean Munger reached out with an episode idea, I was game. And after Paul talked so much about the tools in Britt World Wide, this episode seemed the perfect follow up! If you were ever curious about the cult of the motivational tapes, and the showdown with Amway that ensued, you gotta listen to this episode.Show NotesSean's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/SeanMungerSean's Substack - https://seanmungerhistory.substack.com/The Tools Cult: History of the Amway Motivational Tape Scam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9nA3pqSaf8Doug Wead - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_WeadDexter Yager on 60 Minutes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwE0VG-H44&list=RDLV9xwE0VG-H44&start_radio=1&t=1237s60 Minutes Transcript - http://thefactsabouttheamwayopportunity.blogspot.com/2010/10/amway-on-60-minutes-soap-and-hope.htmlThe Postma Memo - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/postma-memo-1983.pdfAmway : The Untold Story - The Tools Scam - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/tools.htmAmQuix.info Archive - https://web.archive.org/web/20161120060052/http://www.amquix.info/Rich DeVos "Directly Speaking" - https://web.archive.org/web/20161118055618/http://www.amquix.info/amway_directly_speaking.htmlAmway Cult Resources - https://freedomofmind.com/group-information-resource/amway/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter, including suicide and mental health crisis. Please use discretion when listening. Michelle and Paul spent 10 years in Britt World Wide, a cult inside Amway that controlled every aspect of their life, including the level of communication they had with each other. Though their stories are very different from each other, they are the same, woven together as they recount the early days as teenagers with thriving Amway businesses and a hustle they haven't lost in their life after MLM.Show NotesMichelle's IG - https://www.instagram.com/michellegarabito/Paul's IG - https://www.instagram.com/cr3ateabundance/Paul's Podcast - https://cr3ateyourself.podbean.com/Why Michelle Decided to Leave BWW - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saZFRLcSbkE&t=1sLife After Amway - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENYtsVKNSXICultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening. I had no idea how bad Rank Makers was until I spoke to Julie Anderson. That chat lead me down a path uncovering shocking behavior and even scarier experiences from even more people, including Jennifer Rajala. It wasn't until I put out a call to action asking for testimonials that Ray's victims poured forth. I had so many submissions, I decided to organize them by the BITE Model, juxtaposing them with Ray's own thoughts and opinions.Show NotesPlay to Win Episode One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JV2tHyjHjg&list=PLoGN-3IQ01C456usBAdcDhQuJmIc_ux7URank Makers University - https://www.rankmakers.com/rmuCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. Please use discretion when listening. Jennifer Rajala never expected she would find herself sitting across the screen from me, talking about her experiences in the top of not 1, but 2 simultaneous commercial cults. After her former coaching client came on the show to share her story, Jennifer wanted to add in some more details about being in the "Inner Circle" of one of the MLM Coaching groups.Show NotesFollow Jennifer on IG! - https://www.instagram.com/jennifer.rajalaFollow Jennifer on TikTok! - https://www.tiktok.com/@jennifer.rajalaJulie's Episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-123-julie-anderson/id1553784236?i=1000581265973Inner Circle Coaching - https://higdongroup.com/take-the-survey/Rank Makers University - https://www.rankmakers.com/rmuCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to November! We've partnered with IGotOut.org to bring you a month full of cult stories and education! Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!Here is part 2 of the Minisode from last week! After reading the conversation between Thomas and Ronald, I needed to know more... and whoa. It's so much more difficult and convoluted than I could have ever imagined. CIA cover up plots, a ponzi scheme and an attempted murder? Grab a snack and buckle up, cuz we're about to confirm some suspicions.Show Notes:Thomas Willhite Plane Crash & BBRDW - https://isgp-studies.com/DL_1983-thomas-willhite-plane-crash-bbrdwHow to get Away with Spying for the Enemy - https://www.topic.com/how-to-get-away-with-spying-for-the-enemyCIA Cover Blown by Honolulu TV Reporter - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140902212249-29817943-cia-cover-blown-by-honolulu-tv-reporterhonolulu-tv-reporterRon Rewald - https://americanfootballdatabase.fandom.com/wiki/Ron_RewaldCIA Officers Testify at Hawaii Fraud Trial - https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/03/us/cia-officers-testify-at-hawaii-fraud-trial.htmlThose Ugly Americans by Rodney Stich - https://books.google.com/books?id=RKecVf4JyDECPlot Twists in History that Still Surprise People - https://historycollection.com/plot-twists-from-history-that-still-surprise-people/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Halloween! All month long we shared MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder! Next month, we tackle CULTS!!! Stayed tuned! Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | These stories will be used in anthology episodes in November for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!When I got to be on Let The Women, it was a dream come true! Not only did I get to be a part of an amazing series, I got to hang out with Gillian Pensavalle from True Crime Obsessed and become friends! So when October hit, I knew exactly who I wanted to tell this story with, and she was more than happy to join us! On Gillian's show, she reacts to True Crime docs, so I told her quite possibly the most tragic and detailed MLM related murder I have ever come across. For those who are fans of Gillian, there is even more Patreon Exclusive content for the peeps!Show Notes:True Crime Obsessed - https://www.truecrimeobsessed.com/Let The Women Do The Work with Rabia - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/let-the-women-rabia-chaudry-on-the-case-against-adnan-syed/id1232009882?i=1000560735576Serial - https://serialpodcast.org/Undisclosed - https://undisclosed-podcast.com/Serial Dynasty - https://audioboom.com/channel/the-serial-dynastyThe Secret Life of Paige Birgfeld - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-secret-life-of-paige-birgfeld/Chef Success - https://www.chefsuccess.com/search/265032/?q=paige+dixon&o=relevanceMissing Small Town Soccer Mom Found - https://truecrimedaily.com/2017/02/08/missing-small-town-soccer-mom-found-murdered-suspect-convicted-years-later/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday! Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | These stories will be used in anthology episodes in November for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!It was just a quick google to fact check something during a chat, but the rabbit hole it led me down made my head spin. I thought I was investigating the origin story of a course scam and I somehow STILL ended up in pyramid schemes, murder plots, Ponzi schemes and surprisingly, a first - CIA espionage. This is the first half of two unlikely stories with a common thread. Stay tuned for next Wednesday for the second half!Show Notes:William Penn Patrick - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Penn_PatrickHoliday Magic - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_MagicMustang Forum - https://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/who/case/152The Incredible Implosion of Holiday Magic - https://www.sfgate.com/sfhistory/article/The-incredible-implosion-of-Holiday-Magic-16785971.phpWilliam Penn Patrick Killed - https://www.nytimes.com/1973/06/10/archives/william-patrick-is-killed-in-california-air-crash.htmlThomas Willhite Plane Crash - https://isgp-studies.com/DL_1983-thomas-willhite-plane-crash-bbrdwThose Ugly Americans - https://books.google.com/books?id=RKecVf4JyDEC&pgWilliam Penn Patrick & Holiday Magic - https://thesnappingpoint.com/william-penn-patrick-holiday-magic/Thomas Willhite's Motorcycle Training Manual - https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/motorcycle-training-manualCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Nobody Should Believe Me, a groundbreaking new podcast by Andrea Dunlop about Munchausen by Proxy told from the perspective of those whose lives were turned upside down by it. Listen wherever you listen to podcasts! Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday! Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | These stories will be used in anthology episodes in November for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!We've all heard a story about an MLM funneling someone into a course scam, but what happens when the course scam funnels you into an MLM? For Andrea, all she wanted to do was help people, so why not supplement her college degree with some self guided, self-help courses and become a certified life coach? But from day one, everything seemed strange, and instead of trusting her gut, she trusted handsome young men in fancy suits. It wasn't until she ended up in the ER that she "woke up" and saw the scam for what it really was.*Next Wednesday's episode starts a strange 2-part Rabbit Hole into Thomas Willhite. Stay Tuned!*Show Notes:iPEC Coaching - https://www.ipeccoaching.com/PSI Seminars - https://psiseminars.com/World Financial Group - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Financial_GroupCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!*CW: This episode talks about a murder and attempted suicide. It describes crime scenes, the state of the victims involved and includes transcripts of court documents and suicide notes. Please use discretion when listening.*To the outside world Ellery and Lisa Bennett seemed like the picture perfect couple of happiness and success. A follower of The Law of Attraction, Ellery eventually found himself deeply entranced by the " Fake it til you make it" lifestyle, going all in on several MLMs and bad business deals while maintaining the guise of a "6-Figure Income", until it all became too much.Show Notes:Three Murders from the World of MLM - https://einsteinshrugged-92813.medium.com/mlm-true-crime-three-murders-from-the-world-of-mlms-7265eb94fbe6Husband Sentenced in Murder Conviction - https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/husband-sentenced-bennett-ellery-lisa-death-murder-conviction-oakland-county-west-bloomfield-trial-prison/MLM Debt Leads to Murder and Failed Suicide Attempt - https://behindmlm.com/companies/polaris-media-group/mlm-debt-leads-to-murder-and-failed-suicide-attempt/Global Prosperity Group - https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Prosperity_GroupLiberty League International - https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_League_InternationalLGN : Is it a Scam? - https://behindmlm.com/companies/lgn-prosperity-recruitment-scam-or-legit-travel-club/Ellery's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellerybennettEllery's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/golfin036/videosEllery's Case - https://law.justia.com/cases/michigan/court-of-appeals-unpublished/2012/303025.htmlEllery's MDOC page - https://mdocweb.state.mi.us/OTIS2/otis2profile.aspx?mdocNumber=796297Ellery's Appeals in the Surpreme Court - https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-8772/95928/20190412094525264_00000052.pdfWest Bloomfield Woman Filed for Divorce 1 Week before Murder - https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2010/08/west_bloomfield_woman_filed_fo.htmlInternet Marketer Murders Wife - https://mikeyounglaw.com/internet-marketer-murders-wife/West Bloomfield Man Gets Life in Prison - https://www.dailytribune.com/2011/03/09/west-bloomfield-man-gets-life-in-prison-for-wifes-murder/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/MLM Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!When I got an email from Mike Rothschild, asking me if I would be open to making a QAnon + MLM episode, I jumped at the chance. After interviewing and chatting with several people who slid down that pipeline, I knew we had to dedicate an episode to the terrifying cult movement creeping out of the darkest corners of the web and into your social feeds with little difficulty. And surprisingly, not all conspiracy theorists come with tinfoil hats, some are hawking wellness supplements and fad diets at the PTA meeting.Show Notes:Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | These stories will be used in anthology episodes in November for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!The Storm Is Upon Us: How QAnon Became a Movement, Cult, and Conspiracy Theory of Everything by Mike Rothschild - https://amzn.to/3MjAeDPMike Rothschild on the Ongoing Influence of QAnon and Its Self-Made Mythologies - https://lithub.com/mike-rothschild-on-the-ongoing-influence-of-qanon-and-its-self-made-mythologies/Parasocial Relationships - https://www.findapsychologist.org/parasocial-relationships-the-nature-of-celebrity-fascinations/QAnon Anonymous - https://www.qanonanonymous.com/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!*CW: This episode talks about a murder, describes crime scenes and the state of the victims involved. There are also mentions of mental health, outrageous health claims, mental illness and suicide. Please use discretion when listening.*Back in 1999, a supplement was created that claimed to be the cure for mental illness called EMPower Plus. It had rave reviews by devotees, and even became the star in an MLM product lineup. But when the Ramsay family decided to wean their son off his medication, in favor of a megadose of this miracle "cure all" vitamin, they never expected the tragic outcome.Have a story to share? Email me! [email protected] Notes:EMPower Plus Q96 vs Thrivous Clarity - https://thrivous.com/blogs/views/99474945-q-sciences-empowerplus-q96-vs-thrivous-clarityQ Max Premium - https://qsciences.com/products/q-max-premium"Crazy Pills" A Utah multilevel-marketing company has a multivitamin to "fix" your mental illness - https://www.cityweekly.net/utah/crazy-pills/Content?oid=2305592Mentally ill killer tried vitamin therapy, court told - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mentally-ill-killer-tried-vitamin-therapy-court-told-1.1141861Mentally ill man not criminally responsible for murdering father - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mentally-ill-man-not-criminally-responsible-for-murdering-father-1.1147589The Epicenter For Get-Rich-Quick Schemes - https://economichardship.org/2015/06/how-utah-became-a-bizarre-blissful-epicenter-for-get-rich-quick-schemes/The Lawyers, Court and family agree Jordan Ramsay is Not Criminally Responsible, Review Board will decide his fate - http://www.timslaw.ca/tag/donald-ramsay/Truth in Advertising - Q Sciences - https://truthinadvertising.org/articles/q-sciences/DSSRC refers Q Sciences to FTC/AG - https://bbbprograms.org/media-center/newsroom/q-sciences-health-and-earnings-claimsNorth Vancouver man believed his father was 'supernatural entity' - https://www.nsnews.com/local-news/north-vancouver-man-believed-his-father-was-supernatural-entity-2916584Science Says: Q Sciences Supplements Do More Harm Than Good - https://www.brittanymorgon.com/blog/q-sciences-supplements-do-more-harm-than-goodCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!*CW - This episode features discussions about mental illness and toxic diet culture. We talk about mental health, disordered eating, binge eating disorder, and fatphobia. Please use discretion when listening.*Ella Kruczynska just wanted to document her health and weight loss journey on Instagram and maybe help a few people along the way. At first she was happy to find a community where she felt valued and welcomed, but when she was inundated with the same messages from different women proclaiming how amazing she was, how great she looked and how their miracle products could help her even more, she got suspicious. Ella didn't know what an MLM was, or why she needed these expensive shakes, but it wasn't until she couldn't take the harassment any longer that she looked deeper and started connecting the dots.Show Notes:Follow Ella on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ellakruczynska/DARVO - https://www.narcissisticabuserehab.com/darvo/#:~:text=DARVO%20is%20a%20smokescreen%20used,person%20into%20confusion%20and%20silence.The Trouble with Calories - https://open.spotify.com/episode/77OLCDFtxmJFF7WjW3XTw0?si=61p4QqdBSI6QCBGLd3kJUA&nd=1The Calorie Myth - https://elemental.medium.com/the-calorie-myth-f9e5248daa0cCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!Have you ever heard the name Brownie Wise? If it seems vaguely familiar that makes sense. She was a pioneer in direct sales at a time when "upper management was no place for a woman", and defied all odds in a male dominated industry. She was revered for her charm, confidence and savvy business skills, until she got too much attention and was wiped from Tupperware history.Special thanks to Nic for helping me fact check and tell this story! Have a story to share? Email me! [email protected] Notes:Brownie Wise Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownie_WiseUncovering the Rise and Fall of Brownie Wise - https://nypost.com/2016/07/24/uncovering-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-queen-of-tupperware/The Story of Brownie Wise - https://houseofwise.co/blogs/news/the-story-of-brownie-wiseThe Brownie Wise Papers - https://sova.si.edu/record/NMAH.AC.0509Brownie Wise The Brain Behind Tupperware - https://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/brownie-wise-brain-behind-tupperware/Tupperware Jubilee Fashion Show 1954 - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/tupperware-jubilee-fashion/#:~:text=In%201954%2C%20Brownie%20Wise%20inaugurated,high%20spectacle%20and%20outrageous%20competitions.Tupperware Jubilee 1957 Commemorative Plate - https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_116197915 Tupperware Facts - https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/85379/15-tupperware-facts-back-fridgeBrownie Wise PBS - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/tupperware-wise/How Tupperware Works - https://people.howstuffworks.com/tupperware.htmHome Interiors & Gifts - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Interiors_and_GiftsTupperware History in my own Backyard - https://blog.tupperware.com/community/tupperware-history-in-my-own-backyard/The Story of Brownie Wise - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/story-brownie-wise-ingenious-marketer-behind-tupperware-party-180968658/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by EveryPlate. Enjoy meals starting at $1.49 a plate using code MLM149 at checkout!Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!*Trigger Warning : This episode deals with mental health, covert abuse and thoughts of suicide. Please use discretion when listening.*As a GenX content creator, Julie Anderson tells it like it is. Yet somehow she spent the better part of 5 years neck deep in 2 different commercial cults, the shampoo we love to hate and a business coaching scam that turned her into a person she didn't even recognize. Julie missed almost all of the red flags, until some honest conversations lead to her watching the golden shine of her flashy business mentor flake away to reveal his true deceptive intentions.Show NotesJulie on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@julieanderson426?lang=enJulie on IG - https://www.instagram.com/_julieanderson426/*TW Please use discretion when watching* Play to Win S1E1 - https://www.facebook.com/rayhigdonpage/videos/883545428687674/Freedom of Mind - https://amzn.to/3SoEh3XCombating Mind Control -https://amzn.to/3fwSywDCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by HelloFresh! Save 65% and get FREE shipping when you use code LifeAfterMLM65!*Content Warning - this episode mentions about trauma, mental health, miscarriage, and disordered eating. Please use discretion when listening.*Jeannette was a Diamond Coach during her 5 year stint in Beachbody, running the MLM rat race with undiagnosed ADHD, chasing the dopamine fueled high of being a top BossBabe. I also struggled with undiagnosed ADHD while in MLM, chasing the same fix and so I wondered, Is there a connection between MLM and Neurodivergency? Jeannette and I talk about the similarities between our journeys with ADHD, how MLMs and social media played a part, and what healthy boundaries and personal privacy in a digital space looks like.Show NotesFollow Jeannette on IG - https://www.instagram.com/with_love_jeannette/Follow Jeannette on TikTok!- https://www.tiktok.com/@anti_mlm_jeannetteChildhood Trauma and ADHD: A Complete Overview & Clinical Guidance - https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-and-trauma-overview-signs-symptoms/What is Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria? - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/friendship-20/201907/what-is-rejection-sensitive-dysphoriaBriannah Jewel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV_WEuCC_OwOH-FTAwNbWEgCarl Daikeler refers to Beachbody Coaches as “unsophisticated” on quarterly earnings call - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5CjL1grxPsCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/MLM To add more education and content to our MLMs Abroad episodes, I asked my friend Nic to come and chat about her time in MLM, share with us some companies we may not know and share what she's learned as someone on the outside now looking in. We've chatted about how politics play a large role in MLMs in the US, but did you realize they are just as well connected across the pond? This chat with Nic is just a dip into a deeper topic and problem within MLMS, and we've only just begun.*This episode features 3 bonus sections than can be accessed on our Patreon!*Show NotesTupperware UK closes down - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-156283/Lid-closes-Tupperware-parties.htmlJaime at Home Closes - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/jamie-oliver-cookware-jamie-home-17334355Gloria Mayfield Banks - https://gloriamayfieldbanks.com/Monica Hayworth - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDkcxSCwDhYNMlxYqR5thmgLord Sugar owns 50% of Tropic Skin Care - https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/sir-alan-sugar-former-apprentice-15926397Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by EveryPlate. Enjoy meals starting at $1.49 a plate using code MLM149 at checkout!Have you ever wanted to live a "cleaner" or "healthier" life? One day you're living free of toxic chemicals, the next you're being fear mongered into a wildly antithetical existence under the guise of "business". For Atalie, being pregnant and terrified of harming her unborn child lead her down a path darker than she had imagined from a health and wellness company. It's a slippery slope from "toxin free" to conspiracy theorist and Atalie walked the line for over 3 years before sharing her truth.Show NotesQueen Elizabeth's life in Pictures - https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2022/09/08/1064160788/these-photos-follow-the-life-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-from-childhood-to-the-throneJR Ridinger dies suddenly - https://pagesix.com/2022/08/31/miami-socialite-j-r-ridinger-dies-suddenly-at-63/CULTS, CANCER, AND COVID-19: WELCOME TO ARBONNE, HUN! - https://shityoushouldcareabout.com/article/arbonneFrom Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-huns-to-humans/id1585142247What is Orthorexia? - https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/what-is-orthorexiaJoyful Movement - https://nutritionstripped.com/joyful-movement/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sam just wanted to sell cute stuff to her friends and family from the comfort of their living rooms, she didn't realize she was entering a never ending race, chasing after a golden carrot that didn't exist. From her starts in MLM's with shady mergers and takeovers, to her life as a salaried recruiter for traveling trunk shows, Sam has some interesting insights into different facets of the multi level madness of scammy business dealings.This episode includes over 10 mins of bonus content on our Patreon! Membership starts at $5!Show NotesFollow Sam! Twitter | YouTube | Facebook | InstagramSam's Podcast - https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/703788.rssSam's Website, Moxie Mama - http://moxiemama.tv/An example of the products sold - https://www.plasticglassandwax.com/collections/southern-living-at-home-willow-houseThe Alchemist by Paulo Coelho - https://amzn.to/3QeveAqCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by HelloFresh. Use code LifeAfterMLM16 for an exclusive listener discount!Have you ever found yourself going down a funnel marketing rabbit hole? Clicking link after link, trying to get to the root of what this website is about? What are they selling? How do you make money? Is this a scam? Not all of them are as obvious as you would expect. So when Nikki found herself trapped in a personal development funnel scam linked to a water filter MLM, she wondered how she could have wandered so far off course.The Freedom Era - https://thefreedomera.com/Is Freedom Era/Kangen Water a SCAM? - https://maketimeonline.com/the-freedom-era-reviewCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This podcast episode is sponsored by BetterHelp and Athletic Greens.In memory of Bruce A. Craig, Esq.Do you remember what MLM's were like BEFORE the invention of social media? RSVP's, carbon copy receipts, and hands on activities? Maybe you got a Mary Kay makeover, or made a Creative Memories scrapbooking page? Whatever it was it looked a whole lot different than the MLM Parties of today. Join Shelley and I on a walk down 1990-2000's MLM memory lane, to simpler, much more complicated times.Show NotesRemembering Bruce A. Craig, Esq - https://mlmchange.org/bruce-craigMultilevel Marketing and Pyramid Schemes in the United States: An Historical Analysis - https://www.valueplays.net/wp-content/uploads/Keep-and-Vander-Nat_MLM-and-Pyramid-Schemes_Final.pdfCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Remember the caller who didn't leave any contact info on the 100th episode? Well she heard the call to action, hit me up and here we are! Meet Big Mo, a woman in the midst of a spiritual awakening, who one day looked around and realized the companies she had been involved with may have been more harm than good. As a woman with autism Mo faces a lot discrimination about her disability, so when a flashy couple with the FOMO lifestyle she wanted promised they would help her every step of the way be as successful as them, she jumped at the "once in a lifetime opportunity" before ever checking for the safety net.Show NotesThe FBI says it busted a big crypto Ponzi scam. It just got bigger. - https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/07/22/crypto-ponzi-scheme-eminifx/Ponzi schemes Using virtual Currencies - https://www.sec.gov/files/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdfThe ugly truth behind MLM companies promising financial success in crypto and investing - https://screenshot-media.com/culture/internet-culture/mlm-crypto-scam/NFTs, Cryptocurrencies and Web3 Are Multilevel Marketing Schemes for a New Generation - https://www.wsj.com/articles/nfts-cryptocurrencies-and-web3-are-multilevel-marketing-schemes-for-a-new-generation-11645246824Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sometimes after an episode airs, I get an email about it from a former member, adding more to the story or confirming the wild accusations. But the email I received after a Mary kay episode, made me SMASH that reply button faster than I ever have. After spending over 15 years in a generational Mary Kay family business, Jen wanted to share some of her own Pink Truth. We have a lovely chat about the ups and downs of running an MLM business, the fond memories coupled with new answers to long forgotten awkward moments, and the unconditional devotion of a Mary Kay husband.Extra bonus audio including "The Six Qualities of a Mary Kay Consultant" and "Baptism in Death" on our Patreon!Show NotesPink Truth - https://www.pinktruth.com/America’s Cult Detector Helps Us Decide If Mary Kay Is a Cult - https://www.pinktruth.com/2021/08/04/americas-cult-detector-helps-us-decide-if-mary-kay-is-a-cult/MARY KAY COSMETICS: DESTROYING HALF A MILLION WOMEN A YEAR - https://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/05/mary-kay-cosmetics-destroying-half-a-million-women-a-year/Mary Kay Bumble Bees - http://blog.marykayfoundation.org/corporate/archive/2017/04/17/be-like-the-bumblebee-fly-when-it-s-impossible.aspxCultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

One of the most vulnerable populations of people being sucked into MLM schemes are students, naïve, eager and looking for opportunity everywhere. That's how Ance Vanaga found herself in strange country at the age of 18, going door to door selling books for Southwestern Advantage, maybe the oldest MLM company we've found so far. Over the years of unpacking her experience, Ance started looking into the mental health side of it, and was shocked at what she discovered. So we sat down with each other and had some deep, enlightening and hilarious conversations about MLM's, cults, gaslighting and what we both went through.Show NotesFill out the Podcast Listener Survey! - https://forms.gle/mC1YiMVhEzccLTWX8Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsConversations with my Mind : The Learning Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conversations-with-my-mind-the-learning-podcast/id1565402796My interview with Ance on her show - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/am-i-a-boss-babe-or-a-cult-member-with-roberta-blevins-s2-ep8/id1565402796?i=1000568083656Ance on IG - https://www.instagram.com/conversations.with.my.mind/Family Guy Latvian Athletes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlsQfCtWsfwSouthwestern Advantage - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_AdvantageDr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Thanks to this week's sponsors of the show! EveryPlate, Athletic Greens and BetterHelp! Don't forget to check out our listener only deals and coupon codes to save you even more money!What do you think of when you hear the term "Loaded Tea"? Probably brightly colored iced drinks on your social feeds with secretive ingredients, a hush hush attitude around the actual benefits, a high price tag and a lot of additional questions if you're anything like the majority of people. And so when I had the opportunity to talk to Cailee, who not only worked in a "nutrition club", but was actively working toward opening and owning her own, the questions started writing themselves. How do they work? What happens when you join? What does it take to open one? And, are they really just Herbalife recruiting centers in disguise?Show NotesFill out the Podcast Listener Survey! - https://forms.gle/mC1YiMVhEzccLTWX8Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsLoaded Tea DUPES with Silver Linings Lessons - https://www.silverlininglessons.com/The Multilevel Truth Behind Small Town America’s Latest Tea Obsession - https://www.eater.com/22958985/loaded-teas-herbalife-mlm-silver-lining-lessons-dupes-nutrition-clubsSunflower Boutique - https://www.instagram.com/sunflower_boutique94Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by EveryPlate! Get your first meals for $1.79 with code MLM179 at everyplate.com Gladys is the powerhouse behind MLMExit, an account dedicated to educating the people of Latin America about the dangers of MLMs. From her early beginnings in a call center for a Time Share scam, to her consumer protection passion project in the works, she's come a long way. Not only does she educate in Spanish, but she's taken on the task of educating Brazil and tackling Portuguese. Our chat is enlightening and makes me proud of the work she is doing and the paths she is paving along the way.Show NotesFill out the Podcast Listener Survey! - https://forms.gle/mC1YiMVhEzccLTWX8Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsGladys on Twitter - https://twitter.com/mlmexitGladys on IG - https://www.instagram.com/mlmexit/Gladys on TT - https://www.tiktok.com/@mlmexitAntiMLM Espanol Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/ANTIMLMespanol/Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Athletic Greens and AG1. Visit athleticgreens.com/MLM to receive a FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase.*Content Warning* In this episode we talk about SA and Narcissistic Abuse, please use discretion when listening.Have you ever experienced a narcissist? Maybe you were raised by one, controlled by one, or in love with one. Sometimes we affectionately call the relationship dynamic a "1-on-1 Cult". Unfortunately for "Tina", she checked all the boxes, and jumped from one frying pan into a brand new frying pan that included being recruited into Amway by a toxic love interest.Show Notes:Fill out the Podcast Listener Survey! - https://forms.gle/mC1YiMVhEzccLTWX8Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsAmway Addiction Kills Marriage - https://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/amway-addiction-kills-marriage/Amway Ruined my Marriage - http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/2012/09/amway-ruined-my-life.htmlHow Women Are Fighting the Marketers That Nearly Ruined Them - https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-women-are-fighting-the-marketers-that-nearly-ruined-themDr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have you ever seen the comment section of an MLM Horror story? There is almost always someone proclaiming "My MLM isn't like that!" And it's true. Not all MLM stories are horrors that leave you broken and empty. So when I got an email from someone who had a "typical experience" I knew I needed to talk to Bri, who was with R+F for 6 years. Bri did all the things, worked her business, watched the webinars and treated the business like a business and she still felt the need to come on the show and share what happened.Show Notes Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBri on IG - https://www.instagram.com/lifelivedbydesign/ Check out Bri's workbook for us! - https://www.lifelivedbydesign.com/podcast Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When I first saw the work this woman was doing, I was impressed and in awe of her ambition. Not only was Blanca reaching a new audience, she was doing it in a different language. For the Latin communities, MLM's are an epidemic of affinity fraud and theft by deception, so learning there was someone who was filling the gaps in the education of the movement filled me with pride. While Blanca was lucky enough to avoid joining one, she's been pitched and preyed upon too many times to count. We dive into culture, education, politics and the "deslumbrado" of the promise of living your wildest dreams.Show NotesBlanca's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/BlancasLifeBlanca's IG - https://www.instagram.com/blanca_perdomo_/Blanca's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@blanca_perdomo_Blanca's Backup - https://www.tiktok.com/@blancaperdomo_The Pandemic Leaves more Latinos Vulnerable to Illegal Pyramid Schemes - https://projectpulso.org/2020/10/28/the-pandemic-leaves-more-latinos-vulnerable-to-illegal-pyramid-schemes/Latino Entrepreneurs Need Federal Protection from Pyramid Schemes - https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-budget/319625-latino-entrepreneurs-need-federal-protection-from-pyramid?rl=1MLMs: Predatory Scams or Entrepreneurial Opportunities? - https://www.business.com/articles/mlms-target-women-and-immigrants/Multi-Level Marketing Companies Profit Off of Economic Exploitation - https://dailytitan.com/opinion/multi-level-marketing-companies-profit-off-of-economic-exploitation/article_3ae748fd-4a4e-5e0d-a493-9cd1c1cea723.htmlAn Inside Look at the the Day Without Immigrants Demonstration in DC - https://www.latinorebels.com/2022/02/14/dayiwithoutimmigrants/Carlos Eduardo Espina's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@carlos_eduardo_espinaDr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Credit Karma! Visit CreditKarma.com to find the right offer for you!*Content Warning* In this episode we talk about topics relating to diet culture, including disordered eating, food restriction, orthorexia and other triggering topics. Please use discretion.To continue our education into the circle diagram that is the diet industry and MLMs, today we're talking with Jennifer DAmato, an Intuitive Eating Counselor and Body Image coach. Jen and I chat about our own experiences with some toxic diet culture firsts; being fat shamed, starting our first diets, and the food police under our own roofs. We break down some facts about the $70B+ diet industry, talk about healthy ways to look at food and what orthorexia is and what to do if you think you may have it.Show NotesFollow Jen on IG - https://www.instagram.com/jennifer_healthcoach4life/Jen's website! - https://www.healthcoach4life.com/learn-moreJen's Podcast - Health, Life & More for Women - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/health-life-and-more-for-women-podcast/id1479547170Exercise, metabolism, and weight: New research from The Biggest Loser - https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/exercise-metabolism-and-weight-new-research-from-the-biggest-loser-202201272676Easy Beef Stroganoff Recipe - https://www.gimmesomeoven.com/easy-beef-stroganoff-recipe/What is Orthorexia? - https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/what-is-orthorexiaDr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

MLM's and the health claims they repeat are dangerous, but often times we aren't really sure why. We place our faith and health in the hands of product reps who make illegal claims to get you to sign on the dotted line, but what could go wrong? I often get a lot of questions about the efficacy of essential oils as a natural health alternative, and so I asked my friend Kayla to come share her journey with that exact thing. As someone who has allergies to most modern medicinal solutions, Kayla was swept into the promise of essential oils being her saving grace, to the point that she was encapsulating and ingesting oils every single day.Show NotesKayla on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjojm7G_kPBK_j6QpgS4UPwKayla on IG - https://www.instagram.com/realtalk_safespace/Is It Safe to Ingest Essential Oils? An Aromatherapist and an MD Weigh In - https://www.wellandgood.com/can-you-ingest-essential-oils/EXPOSED: The Dark Side of Young Living Essential Oils - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm2I1JpfyiQYoung Living and the Man Who Murdered For His Oil Empire:Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOgsFyVtvM8&t=3sPart 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fal68dc6LuYDr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On December 27th, 2011 a 911 call is placed at 130 Sumac Drive in Troy Missouri that starts the domino effect of one of the strangest cases of murder and fraud I've ever heard. On a recommendation, I started watching The Thing About Pam on NBC starring Renee Zellwegger and couldn't get enough. Not many fraudsters are as bold and brazen as Pam, and I knew I had to learn as much as I could to find the answers... Unfortunately it just lead to even more questions.Show NotesWatch the YouTube video of this pod that includes photos and videos from this case for more context! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwL8RjSCrTsWatch The Thing About Pam - https://amzn.to/39b8wtzRead Bone Deep: Untangling the Betsy Faria Murder Case - https://amzn.to/3NUp5JaHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey HunBots and HunBros! Let's raise at least $25 in all 50 STATES!!! - bit.ly/mwoy2022 I know that MLMs are a HUGE thing here in the states, but I was curious what it was like other places, like the UK for example. I always see comments and questions about the more UK based MLMs like The Body Shop at Home, FM World and Inteletravel. These just aren't MLMs that I run across all that often, so I reached out to someone who would know, Charlie Harris. Charlie speaks out on social media about the problems with MLMs in the UK and most specifically Inteletravel. her former company. I had NO IDEA how the travel MLMs worked, so it was lovely to chat with Charlie and pick her brain about an MLM you guys ask me about a lot.Show NotesCharlie's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/DearSociety1/Charlie's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/__dearsociety/Charlie's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@dearsocietybackupMLMs in the UK: how multi-level marketing schemes are using “feminist jargon” to recruit women since the pandemic - https://www.stylist.co.uk/long-reads/women-joining-mlms-since-lockdown/579495MLM schemes in the UK: The 'cult-like' beauty businesses in your DMs - https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-55145586Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Credit Karma! Visit CreditKarma.com to find the right offer for you!Hey HunBots and HunBros! Let's raise at least $25 in all 50 STATES!!! - bit.ly/mwoy2022 You may know Nick Anderson because he's all over Instagram, combining fitness education with humor and authenticity. Or maybe you know him because he married to From Huns to Humans podcast host, Danielle Bolster! Either way, Nick is a riot and brought his unique perspective to our chat, that includes his former guilt over a lonely Panera sandwich, our PopTart preferences, easy ways to get more veggies in.... If you can't tell, Nick loves food as much as I do. Maybe don't listen to this while you're hungry.Show NotesNick's Services - https://nickandersonfitness.com/Nick on IG - https://www.instagram.com/nickandersonfitness/Nick on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@nickandersonfitnessLife After MLM : The Show - Nick Anderson & Toxic Fitness Culture - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W31XvgvqbyEButter on a PopTart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlsFgDjyePcKono's in San Diego - http://www.konoscafe.com/Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey HunBots and HunBros! Let's raise at least $25 in all 50 STATES!!! - bit.ly/mwoy2022 You have been asking me for an episode on doTERRA, and so I reached out to Jamie and asked her to come share her experiences in the company! With her background in massage therapy, it was only a matter of time until MLM found its way in her life. doTERRA often gets a "break" in the public eye because of their clever marketing and celebrity endorsements, so I asked someone who knows better than I do to talk about the culture, what faith manipulation looks like in the "wellness" space, informed consent, canceling auto shipments, and the hard hitting question; Is doTERRA any different? Let's find out.Show NotesFollow Jamie's NEW IG - https://www.instagram.com/essentially_over_mlms/Life After MLM : The Show - Jamie Smith & doTERRA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWkxsWB833YThompson Square promotes doTERRA on IG - https://www.instagram.com/p/CO_szfsBHlP/Meet doTERRA's Performance Advocates -https://www.doterra.com/US/en/performance-advocatesWhy Oh Why is Ben Lee Selling Essential Oils on YouTube: An Investigation - https://www.vice.com/en/article/43ygkd/why-oh-why-is-ben-lee-selling-essential-oils-on-youtube-an-investigationBen Lee's Open Letter to DoTerra re: QAnon - https://twitter.com/benleemusic/status/1329839932228120578The Recovering Hunbot's OnPassive Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p31BH-e6KBw&list=PLQS-jTYfn9yaVIvO78xLaMbRS2sZz1FRBDr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The amount of messages I get from people asking me what they can do to help with AntiMLM awareness is humbling. I know so many feel compelled to share, educate and scream from the rooftops about these predatory scams, but feel lost in the space and not sure where they "fit". I first met Laurie through the AntiMLM space and along the way became friends. Although Laurie and I recorded this months ago, it's still a great reminder to those finding their place in this community of amazing people. I also just want to thank her again for all of the help with the Facebook group, along with the entire AdMod team. ANGELS!Show NotesChalene Johnson Speaks Out - https://www.chalenejohnson.com/why-did-chalene-leave-beachbody/Life After MLM : The Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/266601078162081Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Credit Karma! Visit CreditKarma.com to find the right offer for you!Emily Paulson was a MegaHun before certain circumstances in her life made her reevaluate her life choices and make some amends. Throughout her sobriety journey, she learned A LOT about herself and began to unpack her life in MLM. On Emily's IG you can find the Highlight Real, her transparency and honesty outside the filtered lens of social media perfection. Not only to we talk about her former company and life as one of their top HunBots, but we talk about what it looks like to write a book about your story, where to start and how to get published.Show NotesEmily's website! - https://www.emilylynnpaulson.com/mediaThe Today Show : Staying Sober During the Holidays - https://www.today.com/health/struggle-stay-sober-during-holidays-t239933Emily's Book! : Highlight Real: Finding Honesty and Recovery Beyond the Filtered Life - https://amzn.to/3shkQ20Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Don't forget to submit your comment to the FTC! www.mlmchange.org for ALL the info you need!For more information about LLS and MWOY visit https://robertablevins.com/lls-mwoy-2022100 EPISODES! I never thought in a million years when I started Life After MLM, that I would be sharing our 100th episode! I wasn't sure how to celebrate this, so I asked fans, followers and friends to send me short voice memos about how the show had helped them in their lives after MLM. I also found some voice memos I hadn't listened to, and the callers made some awesome points and asked some important questions, so I added those too! I hope you enjoy this fun little celebration of LAMLM, and we will be bac next week with more MLM stories!Show NotesVisit my website! - www.robertablevins.comWatch The Adventures of Hunberta here - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtIbgxk9grE6DBu0OgRrJ4wZ7z0fKy4--Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Smile Brilliant! For a limited time use code MLM for 20% OFF Smile Brilliants cariPROTM Dental Probiotics and their suite of dentist-grade oral care products.Don't forget to submit your comment to the FTC! www.mlmchange.org for ALL the info you need!For more information about LLS and MWOY visit https://robertablevins.com/lls-mwoy-2022Rachael's giggle inducing content first caught my eye as "Chelsee Diamond" a hilariously out-of-touch MegaHun with horrible advice and life hacks, but I stayed for the Brotastic LinkedIn Brobots slander and spot on Elizabeth Holmes impersonations. In her real life Rachael sees a lot of people selling coaching sessions and selling courses on the vague idea of "business". We chat about what it's like creating parody content, what her inspirations are, and the legitimacy of REAL coaching, what it should do for you and how to find one that won't scam you.Show NotesRachael in Real Life - https://rachaelwonderlin.com/Follow "Chelsee" - https://www.instagram.com/coachingcoachestocoach/LinkedIn Bro Accepts the Friend Request - https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca-O7adjCYq/Elizabeth Holmes Responds to Hulu - https://www.instagram.com/p/CasfqlKJVDg/Boss Babe Travel Tips with Chelsee Diamond - https://www.instagram.com/p/CaDalBGpMUY/Random Face Generator (This Person Does Not Exist) - https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/Pia Silva - https://www.piasilva.com/Christina Scalera - https://christinascalera.com/Social Blade - https://socialblade.com/Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Credit Karma! Go to CreditKarma.com or the Credit Karma app to find the right offer for you!Don't forget to submit your comment to the FTC! www.mlmchange.org for ALL the info you need!For more information about LLS and MWOY visit https://robertablevins.com/lls-mwoy-2022When I say Devyn and I have been trying to connect FOR-EV-ER, I mean it! She has been instrumental in helping get my acne rosacea flares under control and helped me feel more confident in my skin after a summer full of harsh comments on social media. As an aesthetician, Devyn deals with a lot of skin issues, so I figured she would be an excellent person to talk to about MLM Skin Care, and low and behold, she's got a cringey MLM story to share with us as well!Devyn is also going to be HONORING her OLD PRICE PLUS 10% off using code CULT! That's almost half off!Show NotesPure Skin OC - https://www.pureskinoc.com/Pure Skin Talk Podcast - https://www.pureskinoc.com/pureskintalk.htmlVotre Vu Closes - https://www.businessforhome.org/2014/12/dsa-member-votre-vu-closes-down/Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is sponsored by Smile Brilliant! For a limited time use code MLM for 20% OFF Smile Brilliants cariPROTM Dental Probiotics and their suite of dentist-grade oral care products.Dave and I met back in the early days of the AntiMLM movement on Facebook. He was an avid commenter and follower and over the years became a great friends in the fight against MLMs. Dave sends me a lot of the content we react to on YouTube, and is a wealth of information and has been an instrumental help with the FTC ANPR. But with all this time and effort in the movement, I've never heard Dave's story, which comes from a very ernst place of love and compassion. It's understandable how going through an experience like that could lead you to where Dave found himself. And thank goodness for Save, because he is a wealth of MLM history and information!Show NotesThe Dream Podcast - https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-dreamThe DSA - https://www.dsa.org/#beacauseofdeanne - https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/becauseofdeanne/DSSRC - https://bbbprograms.org/programs/all-programs/dssrcLAMLM The Show : Usana The Musical - https://youtu.be/hz30rPrRoM8Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week's sponsor is BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month of online therapy by visiting betterhelp.com/mlm*CONTENT WARNING* - In this episode we talk about several topics that may be triggering, including infant loss, body image, psychological tactics and strong language. Please use discretion.Have you been watching the Monat Dumpster Fire on social media? It's hard to miss if you're following enough AntiMLM content. It all started when Angelique Robles, a Managing Market Mentor had some questions and concerns about things she was seeing happening within the company. What followed can only be described as a shitshow that lead her to reaching out to the AntiMLM community for real answers. I get so many comments about talking to Reps who are still in, so I asked her if she would be willing to chat about her life IN MLM and she agreed! But what happens in the middle of our chat is SHOCKING and literally CANNOT BE MISSED. I never expected this in a million years!Show NotesMonat fires Angelique but keeps Angela and Mandie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XlIHT59W7ATerminated Market Partner Reacts to Secret Zoom Call About Her - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBiM19YWcSwMONAT LEADER TERMINATED FOR SPEAKING OUT! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CoNi9J3XCs&t=2250sMONAT IS A CULT: FIRING REPS FOR WANTING CHANGE *DAMAGE CONTROL ZOOM CALL REACTION - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrDL1RqTWuADr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.