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Ep 4141: The Dangers of Winning the Lottery & the Unhappy Father
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! When Abraham Shakespeare won a $30 million lottery, he was ecstatic. He bought himself a beautiful home and a new car. He was generous with nearly everyone he encountered. When friends needed a loan, he gave it to them. When they fell behind on their mortgages, he stepped in. But Abraham was quickly overwhelmed. He worried that people were taking advantage of him. Then he met Dee Dee Moore. She was a savvy businesswoman who wanted to help him with his money. Or so she said. Later, when Abraham went missing, his friends and family had a hunch who was to blame. Then Kristin tells us about one of the dumbest lawsuits of all time. Peter Wallis and Kellie Smith were in love, but that all changed when Kellie got pregnant. Peter proposed. She said no. Peter encouraged her to get an abortion. She said no to that too. Then like a real winner, he kicked her out of their apartment. Kellie moved in with her parents and eventually gave birth to a baby girl. A year after their daughter was born, Peter sued Kellie, claiming she lied about being on the pill. Kellie said she had been on the pill, and that the pregnancy was as surprising to her as it was to him. Peter told the world he was a victim of “contraceptive fraud.” And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Judge tosses man’s suit over ex-lover’s pregnancy,” Albuquerque Journal “Dismissal of Lawsuit over pregnancy upheld,” Albuquerque Journal “Man sues his ex-girlfriend for becoming pregnant,” Washington Post In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Lady Killer” episode American Greed “Dee Dee Moore” episode Snapped “Dorice ‘Dee Dee’ Moore” murderpedia.org

Ep 4040: Crimes That Inspired Horror Movies
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Happy Halloween, and welcome to a very spooky episode of Let’s Go To Court! This week, we discuss crimes so terrifying that they inspired horror films. Kristin starts us off with the most disgusting story of all time. Ed Gein was just a quiet bachelor who lived alone on his isolated Wisconsin farm. But there was more to Ed than met the eye. When police went to question him about a murder, they were horrified by what they discovered. Body parts littered his filthy home. There were lamp shades and chairs made of human skin. There was a collection of noses, and face masks on the walls. Ed’s story is so sickening that it inspired the movies Psycho, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Silence of the Lambs. Then Brandi tells us about an entire family who was killed in their sleep. Well… not an entire family. One family member, Ronald DeFeo, lived to tell the tale. A year later, a new family moved into the home. The disturbing story was the basis for the Amityville Horror movies. Brandi recommends the 2005 Amityville Horror remake, starring Ryan Reynolds. She’s a fan of his muscle definition. And his acting. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Ed Gein,” episode of A&E’s biography “Ed Gein Biography,” Wisconsinsickness.com “The Ultimate Ghoul,” Crime Library “10 skulls found in house of horror,” Oshkosh Daily Northwestern “Judge orders Ed Gein back to mental hospital,” The La Crosse Tribune “Order Ed Gein tried on murder, robbery,” The Oshkosh Northwestern “Ed Gein found guilty of murder,” Ironwood Daily Globe “Ed Gein,” Wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Real Life Amityville Horror” by Douglas B Lynott, Cirme Library “Couple and 4 children killed in ‘Amityville Horror’ murders” by Jerry Schmetterer and Daniel Driscoll Ronald Defeo Jr. “The Amityville Horror” wikipedia.org AmityvilleFiles.com

Ep 3939: Intern Chandra Levy & the Wichita Horror
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Chandra Levy had her life together. She was an intern at the Federal Bureau of Prisons and was just a few days shy of graduating with a master’s degree in public administration. She had dreams of working for the FBI. Maybe the CIA. So when she suddenly went missing in early May of 2001, her parents were alarmed. Their alarm swelled when they learned that Chandra’d been having an affair with Congressman Gary Condit. Was Condit to blame for Chandra’s disappearance? Had he done something to her? Despite a damn good alibi, suspicion enveloped Condit. In the winter of 2000, two men terrorized Wichita, Kansas. Over a short period, their random crimes escalated. First they robbed a man. Then they shot a woman. Then, they raped and terrorized a group of five, twenty-something friends. The men murdered four of the five friends. The lone survivor lived through the ordeal when the killers’ bullet deflected off her barrette. She played dead, then sought help. Ultimately, her testimony helped put the men behind bars. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Who Killed Chandra Levy?” Washington Post investigative series by Sari Horwitz, Scott Higham, Sylvia Moreno Season 38, Episode 48 of 20/20 “Chandra Levy,” Wikipedia “Gary Condit,” Wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Wichita Horror” by Denise Noe, Crime Library “True Crime: The Wichita Massacre” by Kara Kovalchik, MentalFloss.com “High court overturns death penalty sentences for Carr brothers, upholds conviction” by Sherman Smith, The Topeka Capital-Journal “Supreme Court restores death sentences in heinous Kansas murder spree” by Richard Wolf, USA Today

Ep 3838: The Affluenza Teen & the “CIA” Con Artist
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Ethan Couch did a horrible thing. When he was 16 years old, he got drunk, loaded his friends in his truck, and drove recklessly down a dark, two-lane road. Not far from his house, Ethan lost control of his truck. He hit one vehicle, and then another, which hit another. Four people died. When police arrived, one deputy remarked that the stretch of road looked, “more like a plane crash than a car wreck.” The story made national headlines — for an unexpected reason. During Ethan’s sentencing, psychologist Dick Miller contended that Ethan grew up in an environment with no consequences. His family had money, and money meant that you made your own rules. In other words, Ethan was a victim of his own privilege. It was the affluenza defense, and it infuriated the nation. Then Brandi tells us about the con to beat all cons. In the post-9/11 world, the United States Navy Veterans Association prospered. They brought in millions upon millions of dollars in donations. The money couldn’t have gone to a better cause. People jumped at the chance to help the nation’s veterans. But in 2010, a reporter from the St. Petersburg Times looked into the organization. He was shocked by what he discovered. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “The worst parents ever,” by Michael J. Mooney, D Magazine “Ethan Couch, affluenza sufferer, has been sentenced to two years in jail,” Texas Monthly “Teen sentenced to 10 years probation, rehab in 4 deaths,” Star-Telegram “Ethan Couch, the affluenza teen, has disappeared with his mother and has possibly fled the country,” Texas Monthly “Teenager’s sentence in fatal drunken-driving case stirs affluenza debate,” New York Times “Ethan Couch,” Wikipedia “Affluenza mom Tonya Couch back in jail after authorities say she used meth,” Dallas News “Fred Couch, father of ‘affluenza teen,’ goes to trial,” Star-Telegram In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Strange, Spectacular Con of Bobby Charles Thompson” by Daniel Fromson, The Washingtonian “Mystery Man Bobby Thompson blames CIA for bogus charity” by John Martin, Tampa Bay Times “Money Stolen by Infamous Con Man ‘Bobby Thompson’ Finally Goes to Vets” by Matthew Mosk, ABC News “United States Navy Veterans Association” wikipedia.org

Ep 3737: The Dangers of Letting Extended Family Live With You & the Kidnapping of Quinn Gray
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Here’s a tip: When a member of your spouse’s family asks to stay with you, just say no. That’s the lesson Brandi took from the murder of millionaire Jacques Mossler. When his younger, “toothpaste model” wife, Candy, suggested they let her nephew Melvin move into their sprawling Houston home, Jacques said sure. But over time, Candy and her nephew got close. Too close. Then Kristin tells us about the bizarre kidnapping of stay-at-home-mom Quinn Gray. Her kidnapping panicked and perplexed her husband, Reid Gray. Reid was wealthy. Super wealthy. But the ransom note indicated that the kidnappers only wanted $50,000. Why so little? And why did the kidnappers let Quinn make so many phone calls? As Quinn’s kidnapping dragged on, the case got more and more strange. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Ransom” episode of Dateline “Withhold of adjudication: What everyone needs to know,” Florida Bar Association “Bizarre saga of fake kidnapping of Quinn Hanna Gray reaches quiet end in court,” Jacksonville.com “Ponte Vedra woman who faked kidnapping accused of violating probation,” Jacksonville.com “Nancy Grace Investigates: The Quinn Gray Tapes Part 2,” CNN.com In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “A Million Dollar Murder” by David Krajicek, Crime Library “Lust and Death on Key Biscayne” by Matt Schudel, Sun Sentinel “Melvin Powers is Dead at 68” by Douglas Martin, The New York Times

Ep 3636: The Scottsboro Boys & the Dangers of Cheerleading in Texas
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Kristin starts us off with one of the trials of the Scottsboro Boys, a group of nine African American boys and young men who were accused of gang raping two white women in 1931. Their cases are infuriating and upsetting. The Scottsboro Boys were nearly lynched before their trials. At every turn, the justice system was unjust — so unjust that outside groups stepped in to help the young men. Then Brandi lightens things up with a story about the dangers of high school cheerleading. Wanda Holloway always wanted to be a cheerleader, but her dad wouldn’t let her. So when Wanda gave birth to her daughter Shanna, she knew exactly what Shanna would grow up to be — a cheerleader! But when it looked like another girl might take Shanna’s spot on the squad, Wanda did what any concerned parent would do. She hired a hitman. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Scottsboro Boys,” Famous-trials.com “Who were the Scottsboro Boys?”, PBS.org Scottsboro Boys, wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Cheerleader Murder Plot” by Mimi Swartz, Texas Monthly “Cheerleader Plot Tape: Go For It” by Janet Cawley, Chicago Tribune “The Texas Cheerleader Case: A Daughter’s Painful Memory” by Anne Land and Kristen Mascia, People Magazine “Wanda Holloway Trial: 1991” encyclopedia.com “The Pom-Pom Hit: When Texas Was Struck By a Cheerleader Mom’s Murder Plot” by Jake Rossen, Mental Floss

Ep 3535: White Collar Crime
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Kelli Peters was the heart of Plaza Vista School in Irvine, California. She was the PTA president and the volunteer director of the after school program. But then, one day, as she was filling in for a teacher, a police officer said he needed to speak with her. He took her out to the parking lot and asked for her car keys. Kelli was puzzled, but she handed them over. The officer dug through her car, and eventually pulled out a bag of pot, a pipe, some Percocet and some Vicodin. Kelli dropped to her knees. She sobbed. She pleaded with the officer. The drugs weren’t hers, she said. But if they weren’t hers, then why the hell were they in Kelli’s car? Then Kristin talks about two things she knows inside and out: fine wine, and the perils of having millions of dollars in spending money. In the early 2000’s, Rudy Kurniawan was just a young, geeky-looking guy bidding on California wines at high-end wine auctions. Hardly anyone paid attention to him. But then his bids got bigger. And bigger. He spent millions on wine, and then began selling it. But over time, the people who bought his wines got suspicious. The wines didn’t taste quite right. And some of the labels looked a little funny. Had they been duped? And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Chateau Sucker,” by Benjamin Wallace for New York Magazine The documentary “Sour Grapes” “Prosecutors reveal evidence against accused wine counterfeiter,” Wine Spectator “Counterfeit fine-wine dealer sentenced to 10 years,” Wall Street Journal “Kurniawan to tell all in $3M settlement with billionaire Koch, as sentencing is delayed,” Decanter “Rudy Kurniawan’s court date is set,” Wine Spectator “Alleged counterfeit wines go on trial,” Wine Spectator In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Framed: A Mystery in Six Parts” by Christopher Goffard, Los Angeles Times “Former Irvine attorney convicted of planting drugs in the car of PTA volunteer disbarred” by Sean Emery, The Orange County Register “Jury awards $5.7 million to Irvine PTA mom in drug-planting case” by Kelly Puente and Sean Emery, The Orange County Register “Irvine mom Kelli Peters writes book about drugs being planted in her car” by Kelly Puente, The Orange County Register

Ep 3434: The Brink’s Car Robbery & the Assistant Who Ended Her Boss’s Ponzi Scheme
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Paul Kruse had an irresistible sales pitch. He told his investment clients that their principal investment would be totally safe. They could expect annual returns between 10 and 15 percent. In other words, watch your money grow, risk free. Sounds great, right? If only it’d been true. Paul’s scheme robbed people of their life’s savings, but his plan ground to a halt when his assistant, Amy Weatherford, got suspicious. The feds had plenty on Paul, but he didn’t go down easy. From the comfort of his prison cell, he hatched a violent plan that would make him a free man. Then Brandi tells us the story of Anthony Curcio. Anthony has always been smart. He’s always been a planner. But he hasn’t always used those skills for good. In 2008, Anthony had an expensive drug habit and a busted real estate business. He needed a lot of money, and he knew just where to get it. Over the course of several months, Anthony made a meticulously detailed plan to rob a Brink’s armored car. His plan was so thought-through, it’s hard to believe he got caught. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: American Greed, “A Mother’s Costly Revenge” “Greed Report: How to blow the whistle on your boss– and live to tell about it,” CNBC.com “Jacksonville con man who tried to hire hitman sentenced to 30 years in prison,” The Florida Times-Union In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Out of Prison, Real-Life Thomas Crown Looks Back on Almost-Perfect Heist” by Brooke Stangeland, ABC News “How an Idaho football player became a bank robber” by Martin Rogers, USA Today “6-year sentence in robbery with getaway inner tube” by Ian Ith, The Seattle Times “Anthony Curcio” wikipedia.org

Ep 3333: The Casey Anthony Trial & the Starvation Doctor
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Cindy Anthony’s 911 call in the summer of 2008 was as upsetting as it was chilling. She said her granddaughter, three-year-old Caylee Anthony had been missing for 31 days. Her daughter Casey Anthony had also been missing, but now she was back — and her car smelled like it’d held a dead body. Police rushed to the scene to interview 22-year-old Casey. But Casey’s story was odd. She claimed her daughter had been kidnapped, and that she’d been trying to find Caylee on her own. Police quickly caught Casey in a string of lies. She was eventually charged in her daughter’s death. Then Kristin tells us about Dr. Linda Hazzard. Well, Dr. Hazzard wasn’t really a doctor, but thanks to a handy loophole, Linda was able to call herself one. In the early 1900’s she made a name for herself by championing the benefits of fasting. She even created a sanitarium called Wilderness Heights, where her wealthy patients endured lengthy fasts, enemas, and violent massages. But locals soon dubbed the sanitarium “Starvation Heights.” Linda’s methods killed several patients, but not before they signed over their valuables. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Olalla’s Starvation Heights still causes chills after a century,” Kitsap Sun The book, “Starvation Heights,” by Gregg Olsen Linda Hazzard, Fasting Proponent and Killer, HistoryLink.org Linda Burfield Hazzard, Murderpedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Caylee Anthony” by Chuck Hustmyre, Crime Library “Casey Anthony” crimemuseum.com “Casey Anthony” biography.com “Death of Caylee Anthony” wikipedia.org

Ep 3232: The Trials of Lizzie Borden & Alice Crimmins
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! When Lizzie Borden’s dad and stepmom were brutally murdered in their Massachusetts home, people were stunned. The wealthy couple had been mercilessly hacked to death. But who could have done it? Police had their immediate suspicions — surely this heinous crime was carried out by a male intruder. But in the aftermath of the crime, people weren’t so sure. The slain couple’s 33-year-old daughter was acting weird. Could she have been the violent perpetrator? Police thought so, and so did the district attorney. Lizzie Borden’s eventual trial captivated the nation. Then Brandi tells us the infuriating story of Alice Crimmins, a woman whose young children went missing one night in 1965. Police suspected the beautiful, perfectly coiffed mother immediately. She didn’t fit their grieving mother narrative. She was well dressed. Her hair was expertly teased and sprayed. Her makeup? Impeccable. Oh, and another thing — she liked to have sex. Police hounded her for years, and despite little to no evidence pointing her way, Alice was brought to trial. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Lizzie Borden,” FamousTrials.com Thelizziebordencollection.com “Lizzie Borden,” biography.com Good ole’ Wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Alice Crimmins Case” by Denise Noe, crimelibrary.com “Alice Crimmins” murderpedia.org “‘Why Can’t You Behave?’: Revisiting the Case of Alice Crimmins” by Sarah Weinman, Hazlitt Magazine

Ep 3131: The Many Losses of Marybeth Tinning & the Cannibal Cop
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! When Marybeth Tinning’s infant daughter Jennifer died, friends, neighbors and medical personnel felt sorry for the grieving mother. A few weeks later, Marybeth’s young son died, too. People couldn’t believe it. How many losses could one person withstand? Then another child died. And another. And another. In total, nine of Marybeth’s children died over the course of 14 years. In that time, people’s reactions evolved from sympathetic to suspicious. Then Kristin tells us the story of Gilberto Valle, a.k.a., the cannibal cop. Kathleen Valle knew her marriage wasn’t going great. But when Kathleen figured out exactly what her husband Gilberto was doing online, her blood ran cold. Her NYPD policeman husband had been chatting online about torturing, raping, killing and eating her. But the horror didn’t end there. He talked about carrying out these plans on many women. Authorities took action, but Gilberto’s defense was strong. He hadn’t actually carried out any of these plans. He claimed he was just fantasizing — with no intention of ever harming anyone. This case had people everywhere trying to draw the line between fantasies and criminal intent. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “A Dangerous Mind” by: Robert Kolker for New York Magazine “Gilberto Valle, ex-New York police officer, talks about his cannibalism fantasies in film,” New York Times HBO Documentary, “Thought Crimes: The case of the cannibal cop” “Ex-officer’s conviction in cannibal case shouldn’t be reinstated, appeals court rules,” New York Times “Cannibal Cop’s wife takes the stand as horrific details of former NYPD officer’s twisted bondage fetish emerge in first day of trial,” New York Daily News In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “14 years and nine tiny corpses later, authorities finally took action on murderous mother” by Mara Bovsun, New York Daily News “Baby Killer” by Mark Gado, crimelibrary.com “Baby killer Marybeth Tinning leaves prison” Albany Times Union

Ep 3030: Murders at a Chinese Hostel & Gypsy Blanchard’s Quest for Freedom
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! In Gypsy Blanchard’s world, nothing is as it seems. For years, people saw her as a sickly girl plagued by medical issues. She was wheelchair bound. She suffered from mental delays. She had trouble breathing. Her life was marked by constant doctor visits and too-frequent surgeries. All the while, her doting mother Dee Dee was by her side. Then one day, someone updated the status on Dee Dee and Gypsy’s shared Facebook account. They wrote, “that bitch is dead.” Friends and neighbors were in for the surprise of their lives. Then Brandi tells us about four murders at a Chinese hostel. When police arrived at the crime scene in 1995, they had little to go on. The murders were as random as they were brutal. The few leads police developed were vague at best. The case went cold for nearly 20 years. Years later, with the help of DNA testing, investigators took another look at the crime scene. Their discovery led them to a surprising suspect. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: The HBO documentary, “Mommy Dead and Dearest” “Gypsy Blanchard’s ex-boyfriend upset with his attorney as murder trial approaches,” Springfield News-Leader “Judge sets trial date for next year in Nicholas Godejohn case,” Springfield News-Leader “Charged with murder, Godejohn give his side of the story,” Ozarks First In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Anhui Author Detained for 1995 Quadruple Murder” by Fan Yiying, sixthtone.com “Farmer-writer-killer sentenced to death” by Ma Zhenhuan, China Daily “Killer author who murdered four people 23 years ago then wrote acclaimed novels ‘inspired by the case’ is sentenced to death in China” by Tracy You, Daily Mail “Crime writer arrested for four murders committed 22 years ago” The Punch “Chinese author of unsolved-murder novel arrested over unsolved murders” by Sarah Zheng, South China Morning Post

Ep 2929: The Internet’s First Serial Killer & the Disappearance of Cora Okonski
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! For years, it looked like investigators would never figure out why 23-year-old Cora Okonski disappeared. One spring day, she left home to buy cigarettes from a local convenience store. She was never seen again. Family, friends and police searched for her, but years passed by without a trace of the young mother. In fact, so much time passed that it looked like they’d never figure out what happened to her. Then, 16 years after Cora went missing, police made an arrest. Then Kristin gives us the heebie jeebies with the tale of John Edward Robinson, often dubbed the internet’s first serial killer. John didn’t start off as a killer. For years, he was just a thieving con man. He was so conniving that at one point, thanks to an enormous ego and a lot of forged letters, he convinced the mayor of Kansas City to give him the “Man of the Year” award. Over time, John evolved from serial fraudster to serial murderer. His killing spree ended when police discovered barrels containing women’s bodies on his property. Warning: This story is as disgusting as it is disturbing. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Serial Killer JR Robinson’s Sinister Alter Ego,” by David McClintock for Vanity Fair “Tearful wife of accused serial killer offers an alibi,” CNN.com “Death sentence is upheld for serial killer John E. Robinson Sr.,” Kansas City Star …and good ol’ Wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Cora Ann Okonski” IowaColdCases.org “Where Is Cora Ann” by John Speer, The Tama News-Herald “Murder trial for Iowa woman whose body was never found begins Monday” by Grant Rodgers, Des Moines Register “Cara Okonski feared for her life, friend testifies in murder trial” by Trish Mehaffey, The Courier “Tait Purk guilty of 1st degree murder” by John Speer, The Toledo Chronicle “Judge overturns murder conviction of Tama County man in fiancee’s death” by Trish Mahaffey, The Gazette “Judge recuses self in Tait Purk murder trial” by John Speer, The Toledo Chronicle “UPDATE: Tait Purk found guilty in disappearance of Cora Okonski” by Trish Mehaffey, The Gazette “Tait Purk sentenced to 50 years in prison for killing fiancee in 2000” by Trish Mahaffey, The Gazette

Ep 2828: The Kidnapping of America’s Best Businesswoman & the Murder of Lisa Techel
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! By the early 1930’s, Nell Donnelly had it all. Women everywhere loved Nell Donnelly’s stylish, well-made, and inexpensive dresses. But she didn’t just make great dresses. She made a great work environment, too. Unlike a lot of factory owners at the time, Nell paid well. She offered her employees medical care and a pension plan. She even paid for them to go to school. Nell’s hard work paid off. Fortune Magazine called her possibly the most successful businesswoman in America. She was rich, stylish and classy. But she was also a target. On December 16, 1931, Nell and her chauffeur, George, were kidnapped and driven to a nasty old cabin. The eventual trials of Nell’s kidnappers captured the nation’s attention and involved some of Kansas City’s most prominent citizens. Then Brandi frustrates the hell out of us with the story of Lisa Techel’s murder. When Lisa was discovered shot to death in her Iowa home, everyone knew exactly who’d done it — her neighbor. The man had a bad history with Lisa and her husband Seth. Police were sure they had their guy. But when they went to question him, he wasn’t quite the cold-blooded murderer they expected him to be. Hold on tight, folks. This one has so many twists and turns that it could be a two-hour episode of Dateline. Oh, wait. It is. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: The book, “James A. Reed: Legendary Lawyer; Marplot in the United States Senate,” by Michael Cronan The book, “Called to Courage: Four Women in Missouri History,” by Heather Roberson and Margot McMillen The book, “The Devil’s Tickets: A Vengeful Wife, a Fatal Hand, and a New American Age,” by Gary M. Pomerantz “Strange bedfellows,” KChistory.org “Nell Donnelly Reed, 102, Pioneer In Manufacture of Women’s Attire,” New York Times In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Before Dawn” Dateline ep. “Techel Trial: Opening Arguments Heard” by Stephanie Moore, whotv.com “Court upholds man’s conviction in slaying of pregnant wife” by Ryan J. Foley, Associated Press

Ep 2727: The Strange Life of Michael Marin and Game Night Gone Wrong
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Brandi starts us off with the strange story of millionaire adventurer Michael Marin. Marin likened himself to the dapper man in the Dos Equis commercials — the Most Interesting Man in the World. As obnoxious as that sounds, he wasn’t wrong. Marin lived most of his life on top of the world, which made it all the more shocking when he fell. Then Kristin treats us to another old timey Kansas City case. This story starts innocently enough. John and Myrtle Bennett invited their friends Charles and Myrna Hofman over to play bridge. Everyone was having a great time… until they weren’t. John played a bad hand, Myrtle insulted him, and John slapped her several times. But Myrtle didn’t take it sitting down. She ran to her mother’s room and came out with a loaded gun. As crazy as that night was, Myrtle’s trial was even crazier. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Bridge Slaying Story Related,” The Morning Chronicle “Last Hand at Park Manor: The Trial of Myrtle Bennett,” The Jackson County Historical Society Journal “The Bridge Murder Case,” Wikipedia The book, “The Devil’s Tickets: A Vengeful Wife, a Fatal Hand, and a New American Age,” by Gary Pomerantz In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Extreme Life and Dramatic Death of Michael Marin” by Michale Kiefer, The Arizona Republic “Arson in America: The Odd Tale of Michael Marin” independentmail.com “The Millionaire Arsonist” by Heather Sutfin, swordandscale.com

Ep 2626: The Big Break & the Kidnapping of Bobby Greenlease
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Eric Abramovitz plays the shit out of the clarinet. He’s amazing. But you know what’s cool about him? He wants to get better. So a few years ago, he applied to the Colburn Conservatory of Music. He set his sights on a huge scholarship and the life-changing chance to study under one of the best clarinet instructors in the world. A few months later, he was rejected. Or was he? Then Brandi wraps up her kidnapping spree… (hmm. Poor choice of words?) with the kidnapping of Bobby Greenlease. This one started in 1953, when a panicked woman ran into a prestigious Kansas City private school and told one of the nuns that her sister’d had a heart attack. She needed to take her nephew out of school. The nun obliged, but there was just one problem. The whole story was bullshit. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “She faked a rejection from her ex-boyfriend’s dream school,” CNN “A clarinetist’s girlfriend didn’t want him to leave. So she crushed his dreams,” NY Times “Abramovitz v. Lee,” CanLII.org In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Greenlease Kidnapping” FBI.gov “The Kidnapping of Bobby Greenlease” The Kansas City Star “Bonnie Emily Heady” murderpedia.org Greenleasefamily.com

Ep 2525: The Lindbergh Baby Kidnapping and the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! When the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory caught fire in 1911, it was the worst workplace fire in New York City’s history. In fact, if it weren’t for September 11th, it would still hold that horrible record. In just 18 minutes, the fire took 146 lives. It was devastating, but it was also preventable. The incident inspired activists and politicians. It also encouraged workers to join unions and fight for their right to a safe work environment. Then we discuss the most famous kidnapping in American history — that of baby Charles Lindbergh. Baby Lindbergh was taken from the second story of his family home. The kidnapper left behind a broken ladder and a poorly written ransom note. The nearly two year old boy was the son of aviation star Charles Lindbergh and his wife Anne Morrow Lindbergh. The distraught parents did everything they could to get their baby back. They paid the ransom and searched high and low for their child. But it was too late… And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Rose Freedman, Last Survivor of Triangle Fire, Dies at 107,” New York Times Triangle: Remembering The Fire, HBO documentary “The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire,” History.com “The Triangle Fire of 1911,” by John M Hoenig “The 1911 Triangle Factory Fire,” Cornell University In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Hauptmann Trial (1935)” Famous-Trials.com “Lindbergh Kidnapping” FBI.gov

Ep 2424: The Charming Kidnappers & the Swope Family Murders (?)
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! This week, we’re covering old timey Kansas City cases. Two brothers entered Henry McElroy’s home in the spring of 1933 with a sinister scheme. They wanted to kidnap Henry’s daughter and hold her for ransom. But they were surprised by what they discovered. Henry’s daughter, Mary, wasn’t a child. She was a full grown woman. And she was pretty darn charming, to boot. Weirdly, she found her captors pretty charming, too. This story is as unpredictable as it is intriguing. Then Kristin tells us about Thomas Swope, who made his fortune buying cheap land in the mid 1800’s, and selling it for a profit as the city grew. In 1896, he donated more than 1,300 acres to be used as Kansas City’s largest park. Toward the end of his life, Thomas toyed with the idea of rewriting his will so that more of his vast fortune would go to charity. But before he could do that, he died. So did his cousin. And later, so did his nephew. In fact, almost everyone in the Swope family became mysteriously ill soon after Thomas’s death. Was someone out to get them? Or did the Swope family just have bad luck? And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Dr. Hyde and Mr. Swope,” kchistory.org “The Mysterious Death of Kansas City’s Thomas Swope,” KCUR.org “Thomas Swope: KC True Crime,” Kansas City Star “The Evil Dr. Hyde of Kansas City,” historicalcrimedetective.com In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The lady and her kidnappers” by Mara Bovsun, New York Daily News “RANSOM MARY McELROY” by Stephen C. Haynes and Richard D. Ralls, Kansas City Star “Mary McElroy, the City Manager’s daughter” by David Arthur Walters “Kidnapped!” KCHistory.org “The abduction of Mary McElroy” by Ted Stillwell, The Examiner

Ep 2323: Rolling Stone’s Most Outrageous Article & the Bever Family Murders
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! When Rolling Stone published an article about a gang rape at the University of Virginia, people were outraged. Not only had a young woman been assaulted — but her attempts to get meaningful help from university administrators went nowhere. The piece was as beautifully written as it was horrific. But was it accurate? Then Brandi bums us out with a story that starts with a 12-year-old boy’s call to 911. He told the dispatcher that his brother was attacking the family. Before he could provide more information, the line went dead. Police traced the call, but it was too late to save the family. By the time police arrived, five members of the Bever family were dead and the killers had fled the scene. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “A Rape on Campus,” Rolling Stone “‘Catfishing’ over love interest might have spurred U-Va. gang-rape debacle,” Washington Post “In Rolling Stone Defamation Case, Magazine and Reporter Ordered to Pay $3 Million,” New York Times “Key elements of Rolling Stone’s U-Va gang rape allegations in doubt,” Washington Post “Rolling Stone and UVA: The Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism Report,” Rolling Stone … and good old Wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “One statement captured Bever jury’s challenge: How to compare two very troubled brothers” by Michael Overall, Tulsa World “Robert Bever breaks down in tears on witness stand in younger brother’s murder trial, says they acted together but ‘in (their) own ways’” by Michael Overall and Samantha Vincent, Tulsa World “Surviving Bever Sister Testifies In Brother’s Murder Trial” by Lori Fullbright and Taylor Newcomb, newson6.com “Medical Examiner, DNA Expert Testify In Bever Murder Trial” by Taylor Newcomb, newson6.com “Crime Scene Investigator Breaks Down During Bever Murder Trial Testimony” by Lori Fullbright, newson6.com

Ep 2222: Food Lawsuits with the Gaming Historian
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! The Gaming Historian is back, by popular demand! Norman agreed to do another episode with us on one condition: that we talk about food. We agreed. (Let’s face it… we’re in no position to be turning down internet celebrities.) Brandi starts us off with a finger-lickin’-good story about Burger King’s chicken fries campaign. Everyone loved the commercials. They featured an aggressive, masked band called “Coq Roq.” There was just one issue. Coq Roq bore a striking resemblance to the actual band Slipknot. Slipknot was not amused, and neither were their fans. Then Norm tells us about his favorite legal battle of all time. It all started when the Kansas City Royals’ terrifying mascot, Sluggerrr, accidentally hit a fan in the eye with a foil-wrapped hot dog. Hold on tight, folks. This one goes all the way to the Missouri Supreme Court. Kristin wraps things up with a tale about a group of cattlemen who sued Oprah Winfrey. Initially, it looked like Oprah would lose. The trial would take place in the heart of cattle country. And her jury was all-white. All over town, people proudly displayed bumper stickers that read, “The only mad cow in Amarillo is Oprah.” But if there’s one universal truth in this world, it’s that no one and we mean NO ONE is immune to Oprah Winfrey’s charm. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “The time Oprah battled with the Texas beef industry,” The Texas Tribune “How the west was won over,” Texas Monthly In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Slipknot’s Burger King Beef” thesmokinggun.com “The 7 Most Bizarre Fast Food Industry Lawsuits” by Ian Fortey, cracked.com In this episode, Norman pulled from: “Jury clears Royals once again in Sluggerrr hot dog toss that ended badly,“ The Kansas City Star “Man alleging Sluggerrr hurt his eye with a hot dog gets another chance with Royals lawsuit“ The Kansas City Star “Testimony is heard a second time in lawsuit involving a Sluggerrr hot dog toss” The Kansas City Star

Ep 2121: Never Trust a Hottie & the McMartin Preschool Trial
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Brandi starts us off with a story that’ll have you giving the side-eye to good looking white guys everywhere. This horrible crime began when a well-dressed, charming man walked into a Los Angeles high school and politely informed the school’s registrar that he needed to speak with a wealthy banker’s daughter. It only took a little persuasion for him to walk out of the school with 12-year-old Marion Parker. Soon, Parker’s family received ransom notes from a man who identified himself as “the fox.” He promised to return the girl alive — as long as the Parkers did as they were told. Then Kristin tells us about the longest and most expensive criminal trial in American history. It all started when a mother suspected that her toddler had been molested at daycare. Police immediately took action. They sent letters to the hundreds of parents whose children attended the daycare. Police indicated that the children at McMartin Preschool could have witnessed or been victims of a number of traumatic experiences, including child pornography, sodomy, and oral sex. The parents were horrified. A social worker interviewed 400 of the children. In the end, she found that nearly all of them had been abused. But did she really uncover abuse? Or were her interview methods lkjflawed? Had anything actually happened at McMartin Preschool? And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: McMartin Preschool case, famous-trials.com “The Longest Trial – A Post-Mortem,” New York Times “McMartin Preschool: Anatomy of a Panic,” New York Times (video) In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Aggie and The Fox” by Joan Renner, DerrangedLACrimes.com “Girl’s Grisly Killing Had City Residents Up in Arms” by Cecilia Rasmussen, Los Angeles Times “The Murder of Marion Parker” by Mark Gribben, murderpedia.org “Edgar Rice Burroughs Reports on the Notorious 1928 Hickman Trial” erbzine.com

Ep 2020: The Case of the Missing Pants & the Chicken Coop Murders
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! When Roy Pearson landed a new job as a judge, he knew he’d have to wear suits to work. But his budget was tight — and so were his pants. Rather than buy a new wardrobe, he took all of his dress pants to Custom Cleaners for alterations. But when he came back to the store a while later to pick up his pants, Roy made a shocking discovery. Custom Cleaners had lost his pants! So he did what any logical human would do. He sued them for $67 million. Then Brandi tells us about the disappearance of nine-year-old Walter Collins. His disappearance had all of Los Angeles speculating. Was he kidnapped? Did he run away? Surely he wasn’t being used for ransom — his parents didn’t have much money. Maybe whoever took him wanted revenge on his incarcerated father. Five months later, police found Walter in Illinois. But when Walter and his mother were reunited, she knew he wasn’t her boy. Police advised her to take him home and “try him out for a couple of weeks,” so she did. The story gets even more odd from there. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Judge in pants lawsuit sues to get job back,” CNN Pearson v. Chung appellate court decision “Wearing Down the Judicial System With a Pair of Pants,” Washington Post “54 million dollars lawsuit against South Korean dry cleaner over pair of trousers is in full swing,” Associated Press In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Walter Collins: The Changeling” Joan Renner, DerangedLACrimes.com “The Boy Who Vanished— and His Imposter” by Cecilia Rasmussen, Los Angeles Times “During the 1920s, Boys Became the Prey of a Brutal Killer” by Cecilia Rasmussen, Los Angeles Times

Ep 1919: The Suicide of Conrad Roy & the Disappearance of Bobby Dunbar
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Conrad Roy committed suicide. That much we can all agree on. But did text messages from his long-distance girlfriend, Michelle Carter play a role in his death? And if so, what sort of punishment — if any — should she face? Michelle egged him on. She encouraged him to take his life. But she wasn’t physically at the scene of his death, and she didn’t purchase any of the equipment he used to take his life. At what point are we culpable for our words? Then Kristin tells us the tragic tale of a family fishing trip gone horribly wrong. In 1912, when Lessie and Percy Dunbar took their two boys fishing in Louisiana, 4-year-old Bobby Dunbar went missing. A search ensued. They captured alligators and split open their guts, hoping to find the young boy’s remains. They even blasted the water with dynamite, thinking it might dislodge his corpse. It was no use. He was gone without a trace. But then, eight months later, Bobby turned up. But was it really Bobby? And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Whose child is this? Lost and found youth claimed by two mothers” The Tacoma Times “The Ghost of Bobby Dunbar” This American Life “Was he Bobby Dunbar?” Associated Press In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Death By Text: The Case Against Michelle Carter” episode, 48 Hours “Death By Text” by Marin Cogan, thecut.com “Read the text messages at the heart of the Michelle Carter trial” by Nik DeCosta-Klipa, Boston Globe “Michelle Carter found guilty by judge in text message suicide case” by Dan Glaun, masslive.com

Ep 1818: The Family Annihilator & Is This Love?
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Kristin kicks things off with the story of tenured Rutgers University ethics professor Anna Stubblefield. A few years ago, Anna began working with a physically and mentally disabled man. Thanks to a mostly discredited technique called facilitated communication, Anna uncovered what no other professional had ever considered — that although DJ’s body was disabled, his mind was not. The two eventually fell in love. But were they really in love? And was DJ’s mind truly functioning at a high level? Did facilitated communication give DJ his voice, or was it Anna talking all along? Then Brandi tells us the story of family annihilator John List. John appeared to have it all — a sprawling mansion, a great job, and a beautiful family. But when John lost his job, he spiraled. Rather than tell his family about their new financial reality, John murdered his wife, his three children, and his mother. John meticulously planned their murders and his escape. He got away with the crimes for 18 years, but John’s luck ran dry when he was featured in an early episode of America’s Most Wanted. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “The Strange Case of Anna Stubblefield” by Daniel Engber, New York Times Magazine “The Strange Case of Anna Stubblefield — Revisited” by Daniel Engber, New York Times Magazine “A Second Chance for Anna Stubblefield,” Slate.com In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “John Emil List” murderpedia.org “1971 Family Killer Breaks Silence” by Austin Goodrich, ABC News “‘America’s Most Wanted’ Helped Track down This Mass Murderer in 1989” by Matt Gilligan “I Know That What Has Been Done Is Wrong” New York Times “Slaying Suspect Saw 2 Choices, Doctor Testifies” by Joseph F. Sullivan, New York Times “Killer of Family Gets 5 Life Terms” Associated Press, Los Angeles Times

Ep 1717: The Astronaut Love Triangle & the @$&!?* Pre-trial Hearing
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Warning: This is an especially explicit episode. Blame Denver Fenton Allen. Brandi starts us off with an absolutely insane pre-trial hearing unlike anything you’ve ever heard of. Denver Fenton Allen’s went a little nuts in his pre-trial hearing. He accused everyone of wanting to “suck his dick.” Then, when it was clear things weren’t going his way, he threatened to murder the judge’s family and mastrubate in open court. The judge didn’t handle it well. Then, who could forget the story of astronaut Lisa Nowak? When Lisa’s astronaut boyfriend Billy dumped her for another woman, she — how do we put this mildly? — didn’t take it well. She loaded up her car with trash bags, a knife, a steel mallet and other fun travel accessories, then drove from Houston to Orlando wearing a diaper. Once she got to Orlando, she attacked Billy’s new girlfriend, Colleen Shipman. For what it’s worth, Lisa denies wearing the diaper. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Astronaut Charged With Attempted Murder,” The New York Times “Ex-Astronaut Wants Evidence Tossed Out,” Associated Press “Astronaut Love Triangle: Colleen Shipman Says of 2007 Attack by Romantic Rival, ‘I Thought I “Was Going to Be Okay. But It Was Never Okay After That,’” People Magazine “Astronaut Love Triangle: Lisa Nowak’s Life 10 Years Later,” People Magazine Plus, good ol’ wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Proctor calls Floyd County Jail death a homicide” by Doug Walker, Rome News-Tribune “Cartersville man charged in Floyd County Jail inmate death” by Doug Walker, Rome News-Tribune “Georgia v. Denver Fenton Allen” transcript of proceedings Fay Frankland “Judge criticized for vulgar courtroom exchange” by Bill Rankin, Atlanta Journal Constitution “Man who gained fame for crude “Rick and Morty” courtroom exchange gets life” by Joshua Rhett Miller, New York Post

Ep 1616: The Runaway Bride & the Not-So-Perfect Crime
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Teenagers Richard Loeb and Nathan Leopold had everything they ever wanted. They were highly intelligent. They came from wealthy families. Life was so great that they felt certain they were above the law. So they decided to test that theory by committing the perfect crime. Turns out they weren’t so smart after all. The pair were quickly questioned in the brutal murder of 14-year-old Bobby Franks. Then Brandi tells the story of Jennifer Wilbanks, who disappeared one day while she was out jogging. Her fiance was distraught. Her family panicked. Police began a nationwide search. People were captivated by this story. Poor Jennifer’s lavish 600-guest wedding was right around the corner. Where could she be? And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: An episode of American Experience, “The Perfect Crime” “Leopold and Loeb Trial,” Famous-trials.com In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Vigil for missing woman to replace wedding” CNN “Runaway Bride Back at Home” Associated Press, Fox News “Runaway Bride Is Indicted” by Ariel Hart, New York Times “In Plea Deal, Runaway Bride Gets Probation” by Ariel Hart, New York Times

Ep 1515: The BTK Serial Killer & That Time Some Dude Stole the Mona Lisa
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! This week, Brandi scares the pants off us with the story of serial killer Dennis Rader, a.k.a., the BTK killer. Over the course of several decades, Rader killed ten people and terrorized his community in Wichita, Kansas. Then, like a true douchebag he gave himself a nickname. He dubbed himself, BTK, which stood for Bind, Torture, Kill. He loved to taunt the police and the media… and that eventually bit him right on the ass. Then, did you know that in 1911, someone stole the Mona Lisa from the Louvre? Neither did we. Kristin lightens the mood with this incredible story about the thief who kept the Mona Lisa hidden in his apartment for nearly two years. French police searched high and low for him. At one point, Pablo Picasso was the prime suspect. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: The documentary, “The Missing Piece: Mona Lisa, Her Thief, the True Story” The documentary, “Mona Lisa Robbery – Who Stole Da Vinci’s Painting?” “When Picasso Went on Trial for Stealing the Mona Lisa,” Artsy.net “The Theft That Made The ‘Mona Lisa’ A Masterpiece,” NPR.org In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Dennis Lynn Rader” murderpedia.org “BTK Victims Speak Out In Hearing” CNN Transcripts “The Floppy Did Me In” by Rebecca J Rosen, The Atlantic

Ep 1414: A Serial Killer in the Making & the Many Faces of Juanita Maxwell
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! This week, Kristin starts us off with a story that begins with the murder of her second cousin and ends with police capturing a serial killer in the making. The murder of sweet, outgoing Alissa Shippert shook Platte City, Missouri. Police were determined to catch her killer, but with most of the evidence washed away by the river and few viable suspects, justice seemed unlikely. Then, several months later, the killer struck again. But this time, the woman survived. And she told police everything she knew. Then Brandi tells the incredible story of Juanita Maxwell, a maid at a Florida motel accused of murdering a 73-year-old woman over a ballpoint pen. Like any good Brandi story, this one has twists and turns, plus an incredibly creepy moment on the witness stand. We guarantee you’ll get goosebumps. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: On the Case with Paula Zahn episode, “River of Sorrow” Probable Cause Statement from The Platte County Landmark.com “Survivor of would-be serial killer shares horrifying tale,” Fox4 “Gruesome Details Emerge About Missouri Hatchet, Razor Attacks,” CBS St. Louis “Quintin O’Dell pleads guilty in Alissa Shippert murder case,” KMBC 9 News In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Other Women” Michael McLeod, Orlando Sentinel “Woman With Two Identities Absolved of Murder” Associated Press, New York Times “The Brutal Crime of Juanita’s Other Half” Birmingham Post “Not Guilty and Finally Moving On” Andrew West, Southwest Florida News-Press

Ep 1313: The Home Owners’ Association From Hell & Jennifer Jackson’s Murder
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! When Jim Hildenbrand moved to the Avignon Villas in Olathe, Kansas, he thought he’d found the perfect place to live. But pretty soon, he started butting heads with the neighborhood’s home owners association. Then one day, he did the unthinkable. He installed some unapproved landscaping. What followed was a costly, lengthy legal battle that epitomized first world problems. Be ready to clutch your pearls. But they can’t all be lawsuits about landscaping. This week, Brandi tells about the hunt for Jennifer Jackson’s murderer. Her murder appeared so deeply personal that police quickly zeroed in on Jennifer’s teenage daughter, Noura. But did they catch Jennifer’s actual murderer? And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Olathe man’s war with HOA over landscaping: $400,000 at stake,” the Kansas City Star “Church deacon’s relative has cancer, but HOA says he can’t park extra car in driveway,” the Kansas City Star “$400,000 case pitting Olathe man, HOA needs more work, court rules,” the Kansas City Star In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “My Mother’s Murder” episode, 48 Hours “She Was Convicted of Killing Her Mother. Prosecutors Withheld the Evidence That Would Have Freed Her.” by Emily Bazelon, New York Times

Ep 1212: Video Game Lawsuits with the Gaming Historian
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! This week, we discuss video game lawsuits with our special guest, Norman Caruso, the Gaming Historian. How did we get the Gaming Historian on this little dog and pony show? It’s hard to say. It could be that he’s a huge fan of obscure podcasts. … or it could be that he’s Kristin’s husband. What can we say? It’s a gigantic mystery. In this episode, Kristin starts us off with Devin Moore, a teenager who shot two police officers and a 911 dispatcher. When the police finally caught up with him, he said, “Life is like a video game. Everybody’s got to die sometime.” That mindset left a lot of people asking whether violent video games were to blame for his murder spree. Then Norman brings us our only non-violent crime of the day when he tells the fascinating story of Atari Games vs Nintendo. This lawsuit focused on the very first unlicensed games for the Nintendo Entertainment System. Brandi wraps things up with Daniel Petric, the 16-year-old boy who shot his parents after they took away his copy of Halo 3. His defense attorney said that Daniel’s recent infection made him more susceptible to the game’s violent themes…. But we’re a little skeptical. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “The Rise and Fall of Video Gamings Most Vocal Enemy,” Kotaku “Court Rejects Appeal in Alabama Suit Blaming Game for Slayings,” WSFA “Grand Theft Auto Player Gets Death Penalty,” The Inquirer “Can a Video Game Lead to Murder?” CBS News “Driven to Kill?” People Magazine In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Game Over For Teen Who Killed Mother Over Video Game” by Edecio Martinez, CBS News “17-year-old Accused of Killing Mother Over Halo 3 Video Game May Get Verdict Soon” by Marvin Fong, The Plain Dealer “Petric Sentenced to 23 Years To Life: Father Says Son Regrets Shooting Mother Over Halo 3 Video Game” by Jordan Cravens, The Morning Journal In this episode, Norman pulled from: “Game Over” by David Sheff A History of AT Games (http://mcurrent.name/atarihistory/at_games.html) Atari Games Corp v Nintendo http://digital-law-online.info/cases/24PQ2D1015.htm

Ep 1111: The Finger-in-the-Wendy’s-Chili & Government Corruption
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! This week, Brandi’s story doesn’t involve stabbings, serial killers or cult leaders. Instead, she talks about Budd Dwyer, the Pennsylvania treasurer accused of awarding a government contract in exchange for a campaign contribution. Doesn’t sound like Brandi’s cup of tea, does it? Trust us, it is. This story has a huge twist. Then Kristin tells the story of Anna Ayala, who claimed to find a severed human finger in her Wendy’s chili. But whose finger was it? And how the hell did it get there? This one’s a real nail biter. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Finger-in-chili lady back in trouble,” San Francisco Gate “‘Finger lady’ spills the beans about chili scam,” McClatchy Tribune News Service “Prison term for Wendy’s chili scam no joke,” Associated Press “Woman in chili incident fails to enter plea in court,” San Francisco Chronicle “Police call woman’s finger in chili claim a hoax,” New York Times “Police check woman with Wendy’s finger claim,” Associated Press “Finger has lunch crowd rethinking its choices,” LA Times In this episode, Brandi pulled from: The documentary “Honest Man: The Life of Budd Dwyer”

Ep 1010: The Honors Student Murder & the Wrongful Conviction of Lamonte McIntyre
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Brandi starts us off with a story about 17-year-old honors student Syndi Bierman, who was murdered during a robbery gone wrong. At least… that’s what her sister said. When Syndi’s sister Shari called 911, she reported that their house had been robbed. But Shari’s story raised a lot of eyebrows. Including ours. Then Kristin talks about the wrongful conviction of Lamonte McIntyre. When 18-year-old McIntyre was accused of a double murder, he wasn’t too worried. He was innocent. He had a good alibi. He had no motive, and the prosecution had no evidence. But the jury convicted him anyway. McIntyre spent 23 years in prison for a crime he didn’t commit. Get ready to pull your hair out with frustration. This story has corruption at every turn. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “No Justice,” Kansas City Star “Kansas man wrongfully imprisoned for 23 years receives no compensation from state,” CBS News “23 Years for Murder. He Didn’t Do it. What Went Wrong?” New York Times “Lamonte McIntyre, wrongly imprisoned for 23 years for double murder, finally set free,” Kansas City Star “Lamonte McIntyre,” Midwest Innocence Project “Former Lamonte McIntyre prosecutor accused in new case of threatening a witness, misconduct,” Kansas City Star In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “State v. Bierman” Kansas Supreme Court appeal opinion “2 Slaying Suspects Sought” Associated Press, The Oklahoman “Woman Says She Hid While Sister Killed” Associated Press, Salina Journal “Kansas Fugitive Surrenders” by Joe Stumpe, Tulsa World

Ep 99: The April Fools Edition: Pranks and Hoaxes Gone Wrong
EHate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! We’re celebrating April Fools’ Day with some of our favorite pranks and hoaxes. Brandi starts us off by talking about Balloon Boy. This is the story of the six year old boy who floated off in his dad’s flying saucer. Or did he? This story captivated the nation, but if you’re anything like us, you’ll have forgotten like 95% of it. Then Kristin talks about three pranks that ended in lawsuits. There’s the waitress who was promised a Toyota, but given a toy Yoda. Then there’s the civil servant whose co-workers duped him into thinking he had a looming deadline. The poor guy cut his vacation short. He even developed heart palpitations. We end with a woman who spent five days thinking a criminal was stalking her. You’ll never guess who was behind the prank. Seriously. You’ll absolutely never guess. It’s insane. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Office joke backfires, city bans more pranks,” The Globe and Mail “City hall boss on stress leave after prank” London Free Press “Three top city managers named in Howlett prank” London Free Press “Court Approves Lawsuit Against Toyota Over Cyberstalking Ad Stunt,” Wired.com “Toyota Loses a Marketing Lawsuit in Ruling That May Chill Advertiser Pranks,” CBS News “Woman Sues Toyota Over ‘Terrifying’ Prank,” ABC News “Saatchi Sued Over “Terror Marketing Campaign” for Toyota,” CBS News “Former Hooters waitress settles toy Yoda suit,” USA Today In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Ballad of Balloon Boy” by Justin Peters, Slate.com “Doubts Came Early in Balloon Incident” by Brian Stelter and Dan Frosch “Heene family says ‘balloon boy’ headlines ‘wasn’t a hoax’” by Elizabeth Murray, Today.com

Ep 88: The Blue-Eyed Butcher & the Illegitimate Con Artist
EWARNING: The audio in this episode is rough. What can we say? We were young(ish), dumb, and thought we’d save a little money by sharing one microphone. Yeah. The audio quality improves drastically after episode 9. Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Susan Wright stabbed her husband 193 times, left his dead body half-buried in the backyard, then asked police for a restraining order against him. A restraining order against her dead husband. So, what was up? It depends on who you ask. Some say she’s a cold blooded killer. The media even dubbed her the Blue-Eyed Butcher. But Susan tells a different story. She says that her husband had abused her for years and that she killed him to protect herself and her children. Lifetime movie aficionados Brandi and Kristin think the truth lies somewhere in between. Then Kristin talks about con artist Cassie Chadwick. This woman knew her craft. In the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, she talked countless people and banks out of millions of dollars. How did she do it? By starting a rumor that she was the illegitimate daughter of Andrew Carnegie. For years, her scheme worked perfectly. Until it didn’t. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from*: “The High Priestess of Fraudulent Finance,” Smithsonian Magazine “Carnegie On Chadwick Case,” New York Times “Hoax of ‘Heiress’ Ruined Bankers,” Sarasota Herald-Tribune “The Turbulent Life of Cassie Chadwick,” Vintage News “Cassie Chadwick,” Biography.com The book “Whoppers: History’s Most Outrageous Lies and Liars” by Christine Seifer *Please note that Cassie Chadwick was full of shit, so details differ from story to story. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “193” by Skip Hollandsworth, Texas Monthly “Wright Case Goes To Jury After Graphic Testimony” by Andrew Tilghman, Houston Chronicle “Susan Wright Guilty Of Murder” by Andrew Tilghman, Houston Chronicle

Ep 77: The Toxic Tush Doctor & the Torn Love Letters
EWARNING: The audio in this episode is rough. What can we say? We were young(ish), dumb, and thought we’d save a little money by sharing one microphone. Yeah. The audio quality improves drastically after episode 9. Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Brandi starts us off with the tale of the toxic tush doctor. These ladies just wanted a more shapely behind. Instead, they got injected with fix-a-flat and construction-grade silicone. This story will make you grateful for your sad, flat little ass. The murders of secret lovers Edward Hall and Eleanor Mills captivated the nation in 1922, but they still have us on the edge of our seats today. This trial has everything — religion; a double murder; a forbidden love affair; a media circus; and a female pig farmer. Let’s just say that it starts with two dead bodies covered in torn love letters and gets even more intriguing from there. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: The book “Cold Cases: Famous Unsolved Mysteries, Crimes and Disappearances in America” by: Helena Katz “The Press: Under the Crabapple Tree,” Time Magazine “Frances Hall, Henry Stevens, and William Stevens Trial: 1926,” encyclopedia.com In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Fake Doc Charged With Bizarre Butt Rebuilding” by Carey Codd, CBS Miami “$15K Bond For Accused Fake Doc In Toxic Tush Case” by Gary Nelson, CBS Miami “Emotional Day In Court After ‘Toxic Tush Doc’ Sentenced To 10 Years Prison” by Joan Murray, CBS Miami “Fake Florida doctor who ‘enhanced’ buttocks with cement, caulking gets 10 years for manslaughter” by Katie Mettler, Washington Post

Ep 66: Smiling Bob & the Slender Man Stabbings
EWARNING: The audio in this episode is rough. What can we say? We were young(ish), dumb, and thought we’d save a little money by sharing one microphone. Yeah. The audio quality improves drastically after episode 9. Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Remember those ‘Smiling Bob’ commercials from the early 2000’s? Of course you do. In this episode, Kristin talks about the man who brought us Enzyte, the “once daily tablet for natural male enhancement.” It’s an insane story, full of fake clinical trials, phony customer satisfaction surveys, and a bunch of other fabrications. But oddly, none of those lies are what brought Steve Warshak down. It was the company’s business practices that ultimately took him to prison. Then Brandi talks about the heartbreaking story of two 12-year-old girls who lured their friend into the woods and stabbed her multiple times. They said they did it to please “Slender Man,” a creepy but 100% fictional internet meme. Thankfully, due to determination, grit, and a level of bad-assery we can only try to imagine, Payton Leutner dragged herself to safety and survived. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Thanks, Smilin’ Bob,” Slate.com “The rise and fall of the Cincinnati boner king,” GQ “Sexual Performance Pill” episode, American Greed “Ohio supplement co. founder gets lower prison term” “Orange is the new white-collar,” Fortune “Updating an email law from the last century,” New York Times In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Girls Who Tried To Kill For Slender Man” by Abigail Jones, Newsweek “Slender Man Stabbing Survivor’s Parents: ‘She’s Meant to Do Something Special’” by Lauren Effron and Kelley Robinson, ABC News

Ep 55: The Ultimate Plot Twist & the Innocent Family Photos
EWARNING: The audio in this episode is rough. What can we say? We were young(ish), dumb, and thought we’d save a little money by sharing one microphone. Yeah. The audio quality improves drastically after episode 9. Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Brandi’s story will blow your mind. It starts with a dead body that has been chopped to pieces, bagged, and dropped along a rural Michigan road. If you can believe it, the story gets even weirder from there. The less you know about this one, the better. Then Kristin tells the story of an Arizona family whose innocent bath time photos were mistaken for child pornography. The parents were put on the sex offender registry. Their children were removed from their home. At the end of that nightmare, they felt their civil rights had been violated. So they took their case to court. Get ready to feel sorry for everyone involved. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Couple’s three girls were taken away after Walmart reported innocent bath time photos,” The Washington Post The United States Court of Appeals Opinion on this case An ABC News interview with Lisa and Anthony Demaree In this episode, Brandi pulled from: The Snapped episode, “Donna Scrivo” “Donna Scrivo guilty of murdering, dismembering son,” USA Today

Ep 44: The West Memphis Three & The Corn Flake Brothers
EWARNING: The audio in this episode is rough. What can we say? We were young(ish), dumb, and thought we’d save a little money by sharing one microphone. Yeah. The audio quality improves drastically after episode 9. Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! In this episode, Kristin talks about the Kellogg brothers. Sounds a little bland, right? Trust us, it’s not. The Kellogg brothers fought each other in and out of court for years. By the time this story is over, you’ll never look at corn flakes the same way again. Then Brandi tells us about the West Memphis Three. She gets so into it that she brings us both to tears. The story centers around three teenage boys who were convicted in the brutal murders of three little boys. According to our super accurate analysis (don’t ever question us, kthanks) Damien Echols, Jessie Misskelley and Jason Baldwin were convicted for wearing too many black t-shirts. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: The book, “The Kelloggs: The Battling Brothers of Battle Creek,” by Howard Markel “Will Kellogg: King of Corn Flakes” from the Foundation For Economic Education The book, “Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs” by Chuck Klosterman The book, “A Secret History of Brands” by Matt MacNabb In this episode, Brandi watched the hell out of: “West Memphis Three Trials,” from famous-trials.com The documentary, “Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills”

Ep 33: Hulk Hogan’s Sex Tape & the Killer Doctor
EWARNING: The audio in this episode is rough. What can we say? We were young(ish), dumb, and thought we’d save a little money by sharing one microphone. Yeah. The audio quality improves drastically after episode 9. Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! In this episode, Brandi tells us about Dr. Robert Neulander, the beloved OBGYN who killed his wife. … Or did he? Maybe. It’s totally possible. But damn it, it’s also possible that she slipped in the shower. The prosecution and defense used the same pieces of evidence to tell two different stories. So is he a killer? We don’t know. And it’s driving us fucking nuts. Then Kristin talks about Hulk Hogan’s sex tape. It’s a doozy. The Hulk’s lawsuit against Gawker got the site shut down and could have a chilling effect on the first amendment… and it was all funded by a billionaire with an axe to grind. Come for the do-rag jokes, stay for the lecture on consent. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: The documentary “Nobody Speak: Trials of the Free Press” “Jury awards Hulk Hogan $115 million as Gawker looks to appeal,” Politico “Gawker in the fight of its life with Hulk Hogan sex-tape suit,” Politico “Peter Thiel’s Secret War with Gawker,” New York Times In this episode, Brandi watched the hell out of: The 48 Hours episode, “The Doctor’s Daughter”

Ep 22: Anna Nicole Smith & the Downfall of the KKK
EWARNING: The audio in this episode is rough. What can we say? We were young(ish), dumb, and thought we’d save a little money by sharing one microphone. Yeah. The audio quality improves drastically after episode 9. Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! In this episode, Kristin talks about world-class asshole D.C. Stephenson. Stephenson led the Klu Klux Klan through a period of unprecedented growth, but his violent crime against a white woman took him down. His trial captivated the nation and ultimately led to the downfall of the KKK’s second wave. Brandi lightens things up (thank God), with everyone’s favorite Guess model/reality TV star/day shift stripper, Anna Nicole Smith. When she was just 26, Smith married an 89-year-old billionaire. When he died a year later, Smith battled her late husband’s descendants over her share of the estate. The case went all the way to the supreme court. Twice. Yeah. Buckle up, folks. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “D.C. Stephenson Trial” Famous-trials.com “Murder Wasn’t Very Pretty: The Rise and Fall of D.C. Stephenson” Smithsonian Magazine IndianaHistory.org “Citizen Klansmen: The Ku Klux Klan in Indiana, 1921-1928” By Leonard J. Moore In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Paw Paw and Lady Love” by Dan P. Lee for New York Magazine

Ep 11: Charles Manson Trial & the Diluting Pharmacist
EWARNING: The audio in this episode is rough. What can we say? We were young(ish), dumb, and thought we’d save a little money by sharing one microphone. Yeah. The audio quality improves drastically after episode 9. Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! These are the trials that got us hooked on trials. When she was just 13, Brandi read a book about infamous cult leader Charles Manson. She’s been obsessed ever since. In this episode, she discusses his crimes, his prediction that a race war was a-comin’, and his truly wacky trial. As for Kristin… well, she’s dumb. When she and Brandi agreed to talk about the cases that got them hooked on trials, she knew exactly what trial she’d cover — the trial of Robert Courtney, the pharmacist who got caught diluting cancer drugs. But what Kristin didn’t *quite* remember was that dear ol’ Robby never had a criminal trial. Oh well. It’s still a good story.