Episode 283: De-sizing the Church – Karl Vaters Interview – Part 2
In today’s episode John and Jim welcome Karl Vate…
Leading From Alignment · Converge Coaching
March 25, 202535m 32s
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Show Notes
In today’s episode John and Jim welcome Karl Vaters back to the mic to continue our conversation around his compelling book, De-Sizing the Church. Today Karl reveals what he is most optimistic about and most concerned about regarding pastors and the local churches they serve.