Kodsnack 595 - Maintain curiosity, with Woody Zuill and Martin Lassbo

<p>Fredrik paid a visit to <a href="https://www.hogia.se/int/">Hogia</a> and got the opportunity to talk to <a href="https://woodyzuill.com/">Woody Zuill</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinlassbo/">Martin Lassbo</a> about mob programming, innovation, and keeping an open and curious mind.</p> <p>Mob programming is still new.</p> <p>Every time you say &ldquo;that can&rsquo;t work&rdquo;, you tend to be proven wrong eventually. Try it, for a year or two. You can&rsquo;t evaluate things after trying it for just an hour or two, some things take much longer.</p> <p>But do steer and adjust often.</p> <p>How frequently do you want to steer? Short iterations are valuable in that they give us more opportunities to steer work in a good direction.</p> <p>Standardization stifles innovation. Sometimes you do want it, but it depends on which space you&rsquo;re in.</p> <p>We had a process, but we still succeeded!</p> <p>Where did the thought I have originate? All your thoughts started somewhere else. The things we most believe can hide our biggest mistakes.</p> <p>Thank you <a href="http://www.cloudnet.se">Cloudnet</a> for sponsoring our <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server">VPS</a>!</p> <p>Comments, questions or tips? We a re <a href="https://www.twitter.com/kodsnack">@kodsnack</a>, <a href="https://www.twitter.com/tobiashieta">@tobiashieta</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/oferlund">@oferlund</a> and <a href="https://www.twitter.com/bjoreman">@bjoreman</a> on Twitter, have a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/kodsnack">page on Facebook</a> and can be emailed at <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.</p> <p>If you enjoy Kodsnack we would love a <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/se/podcast/kodsnack/id561631498?l=en">review in iTunes</a>! You can also support the podcast by <a href="https://ko-fi.com/kodsnack" rel="payment">buying us a coffee (or two!) through Ko-fi</a>.</p> <h2 id="links">Links</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.hogia.se/int/">Hogia</a></li> <li><a href="https://woodyzuill.com/">Woody Zuill</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinlassbo/">Martin Lassbo</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_programming#Mob_programming">Mob programming</a></li> <li><a href="https://kodsnack.se/218/">Episode 218</a> (in Swedish) covers working in a mob in depth</li> <li><a href="https://kodsnack.se/people/woody-zuill/">Other episodes with Woody</a></li> <li><a href="https://ko-fi.com/kodsnack">Support us on Ko-fi!</a></li> <li><a href="https://oredev.org/">Øredev</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1u6Hzve6rk">Woody&rsquo;s Øredev talk 2018</a>,</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshin">Beginner&rsquo;s mind</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_programming">Pair programming</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1u6Hzve6rk">Turn up the good</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynefin_framework">Cynefin</a> - the decision framework you can never spell after hearing the word spoken</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_thinking">Systems thinking</a> - looking at systems as a whole, rather than in parts</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman">Kahnemann</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow">Thinking, fast and slow</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drunkard's_Walk">The drunkard&rsquo;s walk</a> by Leonard Mlodinow</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_irrationality">Rational irrationality</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias">Survivorship bias</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias">Confirmation bias</a> *<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-desirability_bias"> Desirability bias</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Planck">Max Planck</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbLh7rZ3rhU">Russell Ackoff</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming">Deming</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory">Chaos theory</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman">Feynman</a> - you are the easiest person to fool</li> <li><a href="http://www.davefarley.net/">Dave Farley</a></li> </ul> <h2 id="titles">Titles</h2> <ul> <li>There&rsquo;s always a lot to talk about</li> <li>The continuation</li> <li>My best thinking time</li> <li>The beginner&rsquo;s mind</li> <li>We just work together</li> <li>Maintain curiosity</li> <li>Steer towards better</li> <li>Turn up the good</li> <li>Getting a thing we thought we wanted</li> <li>How frequently could we steer?</li> <li>We think we know what we want</li> <li>Not a systems thinker</li> <li>Talent plus luck</li> <li>A higher level than the work itself</li> <li>A little more talent and a lot more luck</li> <li>I&rsquo;ll misquote it but I&rsquo;m close</li> <li>Re-think the things we already believe</li> <li>Stay open-minded</li> <li>Something else could eat us</li> <li>A student of the biases</li> <li>Walk down a different path</li> </ul>