Kodsnack 143 - The web standards bug

<p>Fredrik talks to <a href="https://aaron-gustafson.com/">Aaron Gustafson</a> about web standards. His origin story, how he got into web standards. How the standards work and who should get involved. The problems with prefixes and how we use them.</p> <p>This episode was recorded during the developer conference <a href="https://vimeo.com/144824775">Øredev 2015</a>, where Aaron gave <a href="https://vimeo.com/144870932">two</a> <a href="https://vimeo.com/144979022">talks</a>.</p> <p>Thank you <a href="http://www.cloudnet.se">Cloudnet</a> for sponsoring our <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server">VPS</a>!</p> <p>Comments, questions or tips? We are <a href="https://www.twitter.com/kodsnack">@kodsnack</a>, <a href="https://www.twitter.com/tobiashieta">@tobiashieta</a>, <a href="https://www.twitter.com/oferlund">@oferlund</a> och <a href="https://www.twitter.com/bjoreman">@bjoreman</a> on Twitter, have a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/kodsnack">page on Facebook</a> and can be emailed on <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> if you want to write something longer. We read everything you send.</p> <p>If you like Kodsnack we would love a <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/se/podcast/kodsnack/id561631498?l=en">review in iTunes</a>!</p> <h2 id="links">Links</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/frameset">Frameset</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuarkXPress">Quark</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Dreamweaver">Dreamweaver</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetch_%28FTP_client%29">Fetch</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_A._Meyer">Eric Meyer</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/js/dom0.html">DOM level 0</a></li> <li><a href="http://alistapart.com/about">A list apart</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Zeldman">Jeffrey Zeldman</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHTML">XHTML</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COMDEX">COMDEX</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Holzschlag">Molly Holzschlag</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_by_Southwest">South by southwest</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FileMaker">Filemaker</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/veen?lang=sv">Jeff Veen</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Niederst_Robbins">Jen Robbins</a> - <a href="http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596009878.do">Web design in a nutshell</a></li> <li><a href="https://adactio.com/">Jeremy Keith</a></li> <li><a href="http://clearleft.com/is/andy-budd">Andy Budd</a></li> <li><a href="http://clearleft.com/is/richard-rutter">Richard Rutter</a></li> <li><a href="http://clearleft.com/">Clearleft</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.webstandards.org/">The web standards project</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.webstandards.org/about/members/goodwitch/">Glenda Simms</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.webstandards.org/about/members/feather/">Derek Featherstone</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/">W3C</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.w3.org/TPAC/">TPAC</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_InDesign">Indesign</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_PageMaker">Pagemaker</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/shapes/getting-started/">CSS shapes</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.w3.org/community/wicg/">Web platform incubator community group</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics">SVG</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.w3.org/TR/netinfo-api/">Network information API</a> - seems to have been shut down</li> <li><a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Vendor_Prefix">Vendor prefixes</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Edge">Edge</a> - Microsoft&rsquo;s successor to Internet explorer</li> <li><a href="https://medium.com/@slightlylate/doing-science-on-the-web-af26d9be2faa#.6zu2sj3y1">Alex Russell on vendor prefixes</a> and their problems</li> <li><a href="https://whatwg.org/">WHATWG</a> - Web hypertext application technology working group</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_SQL_Database">Web SQL</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/8/9872802/mozilla-has-killed-the-firefox-phone">Firefox phones did not last</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork">Zork</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basecamp_%28software%29">Basecamp</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_%28software%29">Harvest</a></li> <li><a href="http://adaptivewebdesign.info/2nd-edition/">Adaptive web design</a>, second edition</li> <li>Aaron&rsquo;s <a href="https://vimeo.com/144870932">two</a> <a href="https://vimeo.com/144979022">talks</a></li> </ul> <h2 id="titles">Titles</h2> <ul> <li>You&rsquo;re the web standards guy</li> <li>Who falls into web standards and how does it happen?</li> <li>Between midnight and 5 a.m.</li> <li>Things were starting to stabilize a bit on the web</li> <li>The only way to build a solid foundation</li> <li>The web standards bug</li> <li>Before coming to the web</li> <li>In the trenches every day making web pages</li> <li>Help make other specs better</li> <li>Vendor prefixes have bitten us in the ass</li> <li>We don&rsquo;t experience the web the way everyone else does</li> <li>I can&rsquo;t believe I want them to make their ads more accessible</li> </ul>