Knowing Faith

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Patrick Schreiner to discuss what the gospel of the Kingdom is.Questions Covered in This Episode:When the New Testament says that Jesus was preaching the gospel of the kingdom, before his death, burial, resurrection, and ascension; what gospel is he preaching?How does “the Kingdom” help frame the story of the Bible?When you share the gospel with somebody, do you include kingdom language?How does Matthew 1:1 show us two sides of the gospel?Has the conversation around the message of the kingdom changed?Guest Bio:Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books, including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:1 Corinthians 15, Romans 1, Matthew 4:23, Galatians 3:8, Matthew 1:1, Matthew 16, 1 & 2 SamuelDeep Discipleship Program“The Kingdom of God” by Patrick Schreiner, Dane Ortlund, and Miles V Van Pelt“A Theology of the Ordinary” by Julie Canlis Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the imagery and symbolic history found in Revelation 12.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the purpose of Revelation?Where are we in the book of Revelation?Who is the dragon? Who is the child? Who is the woman?Where do we find a contrast between a woman and a dragon in the story of the bible prior to Revelation?How is Revelation providing instruction on how a Christian can rightly think about what it means to be engaged in spiritual war?What about Ephesians 6, how does that relate?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 12, Genesis 37, Ezekiel 29, 32:2, Genesis 1-3, Jeremiah 51, Ephesians 6“Home With God” by Kyle Worley“Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle WorleyJen Wilkin Instagram Post Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss a core doctrine of the Christian faith; Christology.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the common approach to Jesus in our cultural moment?Where should someone start if they want to dive deep into the question of who is Jesus?What about when Colossians 1 calls him the “firstborn?”What are the essentials of Christology?What are the implications of leaning into one of the natures of Jesus?In the creeds (Athanasian, Apostles, Nicene, Chalcedon) they focus on clarifying who, what, and how Christ is. Why this intense focus so early on?How does Christ perfectly fulfill the three offices of prophet, priest, and king?Helpful Definitions:Logos: The word.Σκηνόω: Skénoó: To dwell, to tabernacle, to pitch a tent.Arianism: The false view that Jesus, the Son of God, is the first created being. Πρωτότοκος: Prototokos: First-born, eldest.Communication of Attributes: We communicate from the two natures; the divine nature and the human nature to the one person Jesus Christ. Anything you can say about God you can say about Jesus, anything you can say about humanity, except sin, you can say about Jesus.Docetism: The false belief that Jesus’s humanity was a figment or presentation, not a true human nature.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:John 1, Genesis 1, Hebrews 1, Colossians 1, Philippians 2Deep Discipleship“Mere Christianity” by C.S. LewisJoe Rogan Experience #2252 - Wesley Huff“Remaking the World” by Andrew WilsonCreeds:AthanasianApostlesNiceneChalcedon Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what it means to be a disciple and launch a preview of their Deep Discipleship Program!Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the need of the hour in the church today in the global west?What is a disciple?Why should we spend our time learning?What is deep discipleship?Why is community important?What do disciples need?How do we pursue deep discipleship?What is the goal of deep discipleship?What is the Deep Discipleship Program?Helpful Definitions:Disciple: LearnerResources Mentioned in this Episode:Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back to explore the book of Revelation!Questions Covered in This Episode:Who wrote Revelation? Where? When?How does Rev. 1:4-8 lay down a thesis of sorts for the book?How do you encourage people to study the book of Revelation?What genre is the book of Revelation?What are helpful terms to define when studying this book?Are people comfortable with the seven letters?How are numbers being used, and is there a pattern?What should we be looking for as we approach Revelation?Helpful Definitions:Eschatology: The doctrine (study) of the end times.Apocalyptic: Unveiling; something is being shown that was hidden.Prophecy:Foretelling: Future-oriented.Forthtelling: Commentary on either the past or present.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation, Genesis, Exodus, Ezekiel, Jeremiah Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Season 14 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on January 23rd! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 14.Questions Covered in This Episode:What are we going to cover this season?What are we excited to talk about in the book of Revelation?What doctrine do you love to talk about? Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer listener questions to wrap up season 13!Questions Covered in This Episode:How did you start writing for an audience?Who is the deep discipleship program built for? Should all leaders and volunteers at a church participate in this program?What is the “extra Calvinisticum”? Are you a dispensationalist? Why or why not?Did God reject his people? (Romans 11)How do you respond when people argue that focusing on studying the Bible and theology produces Pharisees?My church dissolved its women's ministry in 2020. Do you have any advice on how to start a women's bible study without disrespecting the church's leaders?What do you appreciate about each other?If not just in memorial, what do the sacraments do?What is the role of the warning passages in Hebrews?Could you sum up free will from a reformed perspective?How have you made the podcast work for so long?Helpful Definitions:Extra Calvinisticum: Teaches that in the Son’s incarnation the divine Logos is fully united to, but never fully contained within, the human nature. (Definition from TGC, Kevin DeYoung)Dispensationalism: One way to think through the structure of Scripture has a variety of modes. A history with a theology. Covenantal: One way to think through the structure of Scripture. A theology with a history.Premillennialism: Belief in some sort of 1,000-year rule and reign and in some way that Christians are taken up into God's presence prior to the millennium. Amillennialism: The millennium is figurative, we are currently living in the millennium period.Views of the Lord's Supper:Transubstantiation (Catholicism): Conversion of elements.Consubstantiation (Lutheranism): Divine and human elements coexist.Memorial (Anabaptist): Elements are symbolic.Spiritual Presence (Reformed): Christ is spiritually present.Libertarian Free Will: There is nothing outside of you that will constrain your ability to choose A or B. You are at liberty to do all that you would like to do whenever you’d like to do it.Theological Determinism: You and all that you do is going to be determined by God or some gods.Theological Compatibilism: You are able to act in accordance with your desires.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Romans 9-11, Isaiah 40:28-31, Hebrews 6 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue the story of scripture by looking at the wisdom literature and the prophets. Questions Covered in This Episode:What happens from the time Israel departs Sinai until the end of the Old Testament?What is wisdom literature? Why does it matter?Which book has been the most formative for you?How is wisdom situational?What is exile?What role do the prophets play in the story of the Bible?What confuses people when they read the prophets?How do we read in the prophets?Helpful Definitions:Wisdom Literature: Jobs, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon. These books help us to live well in the face of God in all life's circumstances.Exile: Being sent out of the presence of God. Resources Mentioned in this Episode:1 Kings 8, Genesis 3“Three Philosophies of Life” by Peter Kreeft Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jason Duesing to answer the question, “What is the purpose of a confession of faith if we already have the Bible?Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the purpose of a confession of faith if we already have the Bible?What is a helpful way to read confessions of faith?In your view, what is the most significant Baptist confession?Guest Bio:Jason Duesing serves as the Provost, Senior Vice President for Academic Administration, and Professor of Historical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He came to MBTS after serving for more than a decade on the administrative leadership team and faculty at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. Duesing earned his Ph.D. in Historical Theology and Baptist Studies from Southwestern Seminary in 2008. He also holds a M.Div. from Southeastern Seminary and a B.A. in Speech Communications from Texas A&M University in College Station. Duesing is married to Kalee, and together they have four children. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley to discuss the Exodus event and how it’s impactful for understanding the rest of Scripture.Questions Covered in This Episode:What do we learn about God in the Exodus event?How is Exodus a birth and a decreation narrative?What do we learn about deliverance and redemption from Exodus?How does Exodus create a paradigm for understanding salvation throughout the Bible?Why does God want people to have the law?As a Christian, must I obey the Ten Commandments? What is my relationship to the Ten Commandments?What role does the law play in our spiritual formation?How does what happens at Sinai connect with the 4 Ps?Why is this event worth giving this much attention to?What core doctrines do we learn about in Exodus?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Exodus 3:14, Genesis 1-2Knowing Faith Exodus Episodes“Drama of Scripture” by Craig Bartholomew and Michael W. Goheen“Remember and Rehearse” by JT English Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the covenants in the Bible and why it's important to understand them.Questions Covered in This Episode:What happens in Genesis 1-11?What is a covenant?What are some covenants we find in the Bible?How do covenants form a structure for reading and interpreting the Bible’s story?What is involved and entailed in the covenant with Abraham?What are the core promises of God’s covenant with Abraham?How does the covenant with Abraham shape the rest of the story?In the covenant with Moses, what is entailed or unveiled?Why do people find that the story of the bible opens up for them as they come to understand the significance and structure of covenants?Helpful Definitions:Covenant: Promise in which God obligates Himself to His people to act on their behalf.Pactum Salutis: Covenant in which God has said He is going to secure and save for Himself a people in Christ Jesus. (Exists before creation.)Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Genesis 1-11, 12, 15, Ephesians 1, Revelation 13, 2 Samuel 7, Jeremiah 31, Genesis 22TGC25“Words of Life” by Timothy Ward Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the themes, imagery, and encouragement found in Revelation 10-11.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the Old Testament imagery found in 10:1?Why is the scroll sweet to the taste, but bitter to the tummy?What are the themes we have seen so far?What is going on with the measuring of the temple? What does it signify?How does a reader understand what is going on in Revelation 11:1-3?What is going on with the “two witnesses”?What happens to these witnesses, and why is it significant?In verse 11, why is it 3 and a half days?What is the seventh trumpet?How does Revelation 10-11 encourage us as Christ’s people?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 10-11, Exodus 15:22-25, Ezekiel 3:1-7, 33, 1 Corinthians 3, Hebrews, 1 Peter, Zachari 4, 1 Kings 17:1, Matthew 17, Revelation 16:18, Joshua 6:20“Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” by Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley recorded live at the For The Church Conference at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary with guests Jared Wilson and Patrick Schreiner to answer questions from the audience.Questions Covered in This Episode:Is the gospel political?Are doctrinal disagreements gospel disagreements?When sharing the gospel with people who don't have a religious background, what’s a good approach?How do you best share the gospel with cultural Christians?How can women remain faithful to scripture while serving in ministry in the church?How does the cultural climate influence churches in this conversation?How can I battle pride in ministry?Why should we become like Jesus today? Why is it good that we will ultimately be conformed to His glory?What dimension of the gospel do you find encouraging in this season of your life?Guest Bios:Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books, including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace.Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books, including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:For The Church Conference“Political Gospel” by Patrick Schreiner“Women and Ministry” Redeemer Presbyterian Church by Tim and Kathy Keller Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley recorded live at the For The Church Conference at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary with guests Jared Wilson and Patrick Schreiner to discuss the gospel.Questions Covered in This Episode:Is the gospel story, doctrine, or practice?Is the whole story of the Bible the gospel?What is the difference between a doctrine and a story?Where do we start when we are reading gospel text?How do we feel about the language “practicing or performing” the gospel?Do we participate in the gospel?What is the nature of belief?Why are you still gospel-centered after all these years?What does it mean to be gospel-centered?Is it a bad thing to call people to moral rightness?What would a ministry look like if you were proclaiming “the gospel” but avoiding the law?Is the gospel political?Guest Bios:Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books, including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace.Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books, including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Matthew 28, 1 Corinthians 15, 2 Corinthians 3:18, Titus 2, Matthew 28:16-20, Romans 2:4, Galatians 2:14, Romans 16, Revelation 21:4, Hebrews 10:14For The Church Conference“Ten Words to Live By” by Jen Wilkin“Political Gospel” by Patrick Schreiner Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the doctrine of sin; what is it and what it means for us.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is a good definition of sin?What is the story of sin? What is happening in Genesis 3?What is Exile, and why is it significant?What is a sin of commission? What is a sin of omission?What does it mean to be Augustinian in our view of sin?Is sin individual, or has sin impacted the world at large?Helpful Definitions:Hamartiology: Doctrine of SinSin: Rebellion against God.Fractures our relationship with God, one another, the created order, and ourselves.Total Depravity: We have a sinful nature because of Adam and Eve.Exile: Lost access as humanity to the beatific presence with God.The experience of pain and suffering that results from the knowledge that there is a home where one belongs, yet for the present one is unable to return there. Sin of commission: A sin that we commit, an action.Sin of omission: What we have left undone.Augustinian:Gen 1-2: Able to not sin.Gen 3: Not able to not sin.Post Christ's life: Able to not sin.Future: Not able to sin.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Romans 5, Genesis 1-3, Romans 3“Remember and Rehearse: An Invitation to Participate in God's Story” by JT English“Formed for Fellowship: Becoming What You Behold” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what the imagery, symbols, and numbers found in Revelation 8-9 mean and how this passage can encourage us.Questions Covered in This Episode:Where are we in the book of Revelation when we come into the seven trumpets?How are numbers being used?What do we see and hear in this passage?Is there symmetry between the Fourth Trumpet and Fourth Seal?What should we not miss before we get to the fifth angel?What is significant about the eagle?Who is the “star that had fallen from heaven? (9:1)What is this judgment?How does this echo the story of Exodus?How does this passage encourage us?How am I supposed to interpret cataclysmic events in the world as it relates to these judgments?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 8-9, Exodus 7:14-11:10, Revelation 21-22, Jeremiah 23:15, Genesis 15, Luke 10:18“Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Samuel Parkison to answer the questions, what is the beatific vision and why does it matter?Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the beatific vision and why does it matter?What makes heaven, heaven?What does it mean to behold God? What are we beholding?Helpful Definitions:Beatific Vision: The blessed hope of seeing God in heaven.Guest Bio:Samuel G. Parkison is associate professor of theological studies and director of the Abu Dhabi Extension Site at Gulf Theological Seminary in the United Arab Emirates. Dr. Parkison earned his M.Div., Th.M., and Ph.D. at Midwestern Seminary, is a regular contributor to For the Church, and is an editor of Credo Magazine. He also serves as a pastor of teaching and liturgy at Emmaus Church. He is the author of Revelation and Response: The Why, How of Leading Corporate Worship Through Song and Thinking Christianly: Bringing Sundry Thoughts Captive to Christ, and To Gaze upon God: The Beatific Vision in Doctrine, Tradition, and Practice.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Exodus 33:18, Psalm 27:4, 1 Corinthians 13, 1 John 3:2, Revelation 22:4, 2 Corinthians 4“To Gaze upon God: The Beatific Vision in Doctrine, Tradition, and Practice” by Samuel Parkison Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Thomas Kidd to answer the question, what was the great awakening and what impact did it have on theological education?Questions Covered in This Episode:What was the great awakening and what impact did it have on theological education?Why were institutions needed at this time?Guest Bio:Thomas S. Kidd serves as Research Professor of Church History at Midwestern & the John and Sharon Yeats Endowed Chair of Baptist Studies. Kidd has authored numerous books including but not limited to; Thomas Jefferson: A Biography of Spirit and Flesh, Who Is an Evangelical? The History of a Movement in Crisis, American History, vols. 1 and 2, and Christian History, Volume 2: From the Reformation to the Present. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about Revelation 6-8 and the symbolism and meaning of the text.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the Book of Revelation about?Where are we in the book of Revelation?What are the first four seals?Why are the creatures saying “come”?What is the fifth seal?Who are the earth dwellers?How do we get familiar enough with the Bible to begin to understand passages of scripture like this?What is happening in the sixth seal?What does 144,000 represent?What does Revelation 7:9-14 tell us?What is the seventh seal and what happens when is opened?How does this passage of scripture encourage you?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 6-8, Revelation 1:5-8, Matthew 24:4, Exodus 28:36-38, Genesis 12, 15, & 17 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Samuel Bierig to answer the question, what is something most people take for granted about the Bible that they would be surprised by?Questions Covered in This Episode:What is something most people take for granted about the Bible that they would be surprised by?Why would I be reading the Bible to pay attention to what the Bible is, not who God is?Why did you want to write a book about the Bible?Guest Bio:Samuel Bierig serves as Vice President of Undergraduate Studies, Dean of Spurgeon College, and Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies at Spurgeon College. He has written a devotional on Jonah, a book for pastors titled “No Neutral Words: The Pastor’s Investment and Stewardship of His Most Precious and Powerful Tool”, and a book for student pastors titled “Fulfill Your *Student Ministry: A Manifesto and Field Guide.” Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss how we can understand the story of Scripture and why it’s important for us to know it.Questions Covered in This Episode:Can you share your journey from knowing Bible stories to knowing it was all one larger narrative?How do you communicate the story of the Bible?What is the framework of the story?What’s a one-word cheat code for the story of the Bible?Why is knowing the story of Scripture important?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Training the Church Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Patrick Schreiner to answer the question, is the gospel political?Questions Covered in This Episode:Is the Gospel political?How do we navigate applying principles in our political landscape that might be vastly unimaginable from the time of Jesus?Guest Bio:Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy WorldResources Mentioned in this Episode:Romans 13, Acts 5, Mark 12“Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World” by Patrick Schreiner Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the imagery and themes found in Revelation 4 and what encouragement we can find from this passage.Questions Covered in This Episode:Chapter four marks a shift in the book; doesn’t it?Where is throne imagery found throughout the Bible?What are the beasts and should they freak us out?What’s being proclaimed around the throne?What’s with the seven seals on the scroll?Who is the lamb and how does lamb imagery connect with the rest of the bible’s themes and imagery?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 4, Daniel 7, Isaiah 6, Matthew 24:36, Genesis 9:8, Revelation 1:4-8, Genesis 49, Isaiah 11, Genesis 15Knowing Faith Episode:Salvation: Cosmic Restoration“Revelation Song” by Kari Jobe“Is He Worthy?” by Andrew Peterson Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Ronni Kurtz to answer the question; what does incomprehensibility mean and is God incomprehensible?Questions Covered in This Episode:What does incomprehensibility mean?Is God incomprehensible?How would you encourage someone who is trying to comprehend who God is?Helpful Definitions:Immutable: God can’t change.Incomprehensibility: There is an intellectual limitation by virtue of our being creatures that will not allow us to wrap our mind fully around God as He is as a Creator.Comprehend: To surround.Divine Accommodation: God reveals himself to us in creaturely language.Guest Bio:Ronni Kurtz serves as an Assistant Professor of Theology at Cedarville University.He is the author of Fruitful Theology: How the Life of the Mind Leads to the Life of the Soul; Proclaiming the Triune God: The Doctrine of the Trinity in the Life of the Church; and Light Unapproachable: Divine Incomprehensibility and the Task of Theology. Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Exodus 33“Light Unapproachable: Divine Incomprehensibility and the Task of Theology” by Ronni Kurtz Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the doctrines of creation and providence.Questions Covered in This Episode:Why do we treat the doctrines of creation and providence together?Barry Jones says that our creation story determines the trajectory of our culture. What does that mean? What are some questions the original audience was asking?What are the essentials of a Christian doctrine of creation?What’s a good definition of providence?Helpful Definitions:Transcendent: God is other (by an infinite extent).Imminent: God is near to his creation.Creator-Creature Distinction: God is the creator, everything else is creation.Theological Triage: Rightly prioritize the urgency and clarity with which we address the topics in a theological category.Providence: God’s continued governance and fatherly care over all things.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Genesis 1-2“You Are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT English“Remember and Rehearse” by JT English“Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Geoff Chang to answer the question what is Charles Spurgeon's vision for a faithful church?Questions Covered in This Episode:What is Charles Spurgeon's vision for a faithful church?Why would it be worth articulating “the army of God” language today?What does “the church militant” and “the church triumphant” mean? Guest Bio:Geoff Chang serves as Assistant Professor of Church History and Historical Theology and the Curator of the Spurgeon Library at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.He is the volume editor of The Lost Sermons of C.H. Spurgeon Volumes 5, 6, and 7 and the author of Spurgeon the Pastor: Recovering a Biblical and Theological Vision for Ministry; Christ Our All: Poems for the Christian Pilgrim; and The Army of God: Spurgeon’s Vision for the Church.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:“The Army of God: Spurgeon’s Vision for the Church” by Geoffrey Chang Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what is happening with evangelical leaders and how we can respond faithfully.Questions Covered in This Episode:When a leader “falls”, does it discount everything God has done through their ministry?How does news like this strike you? What is your response to it?Why do we have low expectations for self-control?Would it be good in light of these things for church staff to get together and talk about these things?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:1 Peter 5Knowing FaithEpisode #10 – Brothers & Sisters: Can we Do Theology Together?Episode #44 – A Generous ComplementarianismEpisode #88 – Men and Women in Genesis 2 with Hannah AndersonEpisode #93 – Men and Women In a Broken World with Katie McCoyEpisode #151 – A Generous Complementarianism: AgainEpisode #177 – Brothers and Sisters: More than a Metaphor Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Don Whitney to answer the question; How does a church engage in the spiritual discipline together?Questions Covered in This Episode:How does a church engage in the spiritual discipline together?Do Christians think about fellowship the right way?Helpful Definitions:Spiritual Disciplines: practices found in the Bible by which we experience God and grow in Christlikeness.Koinonia (κοινωνία): Fellowship, talking about God and the things of God.Guest Bio:Don Whitney is the Professor of Biblical Spirituality and the John H. Powell Professor of Pastoral Ministry at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He served there in a similar position from 1995 to 2005, and then as Professor of Biblical Spiritual and Associate Dean at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, from 2005 to 2024.He has authored nine books, including Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life and Praying the Bible, and is a popular conference speaker, especially on personal and congregational spirituality.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:1 Timothy 4:7, Acts 2:42 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the beginning of the book of Revelation and its meaning.Questions Covered in This Episode:What does the word “revelation” mean? Why is the language so strange if this book is meant to reveal?What is a symbolic universe?How important is what comes before the book of Revelation in understanding the book?Is there a grid we should be using or do we treat angelic language throughout Revelation on a case by case basis?What is the book of Revelation about?What sevens do we get before we get to the seven churches?Why these seven churches?What is the angle of these letters?Who are the Nicolaitans?What stands out from them?What can encouragement can we draw from this?Helpful Definitions:Revelation: To reveal, to disclose.Angel: Messenger.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 1 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley dive into the doctrine of Revelation to discuss how we can know God.Questions Covered in This Episode:What are we currently working on?How has God revealed Himself?Is it possible to say true things about God? How do we speak truthfully about God?What is Illumination?Can we read the Bible just like we would read any other book?Helpful Definitions:Natural Revelation: A common knowledge of God that is given to all humanity.Special Revelation: God has revealed himself to us in Christ and through Scripture.Theophnustos (θεόπνευστος): God-breathed.Illumination: The Holy Spirit who has inspired God’s word, turns the light on for us to rightly hear and receive what God has already testified to. Christological Analogy: The Bible is fully divine and fully human yet one text.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Romans 1:20, Hebrews 1:1, Colossians 1:15, 2 Timothy 3:16, Psalm 36, Revelation 5 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the different ways people interpret the Book of Revelation.Questions Covered in This Episode:How do we put the phrase “was, is, and is to come” in the right context?What tier of importance is Eschatology?What is hermeneutics?Is the only kind of prophecy telling the future?What are the main approaches to this book?Why is it significant to have conversations about these theological categories?Helpful Definitions:Hermeneutics: How do we interpret and read Biblical texts?Prophecy: Telling us things that are eternally true.Foretelling: Future prediction of events that have yet to happen.Forthtelling: Divine commentary of what is happening. Proclaiming.Futurist: Everything from Rev. 4:1 onward to be concerning future unfulfilled affairs/events.Historicist: A prophecy laying out the history of the church between the two advents.Preterist: Most prophecies in Revelation have been fulfilled in the years immediately following John’s writing of the book.Idealist: Revelation is concerned about presenting timeless principles and we should not be concerned about tying fulfillment (past, present, or future) to prophecies.Ladd: “eclectic approach” Blending futurist and preterist approaches. Proper fulfillment in the near future and some of them most hold trust for a future fulfillment.Historicist/Idealist: Historicist with a heavy emphasis on the symbolic nature of the text.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 1:8, 1:17, Revelation 2:8, Revelation 5, Revelation 4:1 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley talk about the importance of the doctrine of the Trinity and what it is (and isn’t).Questions Covered in This Episode:Is it fair to say that the Trinity is a bit like water in that it can take three forms: liquid, gas, and solid?How do we define the Trinity?Why is it important to try to understand this doctrine?If the word Trinity isn’t in the bible, why is it a core Christian doctrine?Does the Trinity have a hierarchy?What sets God apart from His creatures?Helpful Definitions:Trinity: God eternally exists as one essence and three distinct persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, each of which is fully God, yet there is One God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Ephesians 1, Mark 12:30, Romans 12:2, Philippians 4:8-9, Romans 11, Psalm 1:2-3, 1 Samuel 8:5, John 13-17Apostles creedNicea creedChocodeon creedMatthew Barrett The Trinity Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what the book of Revelation is about and how we can begin to approach studying it.Questions Covered in This Episode:What are we doing this season?What are your thoughts about current events - are we living in the end times?What does Advent have to do with Revelation?Does your study provide a conclusive answer to the question of the rapture?What genre of literature is Revelation?How do we read and approach Scripture appropriately?What are you looking forward to jumping into when studying the book of Revelation?What is your experience in reading the different views of Revelation?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:“Don’t Fear the Marks in Revelation” by Jen Wilkin“Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” by Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss deep discipleship, how the church today needs discipleship, and a big project they have been working on!Questions Covered in This Episode:What are we doing this season?Are we producing deep disciples?What is Deep Discipleship?Where does Deep Discipleship relate to women’s ministry?What is coming in 2025 with Lifeway?What are some of the doctrines we are excited to explore this season?Helpful Definitions:Theology: Words about God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Habakkuk 2:14“Deep Discipleship” by JT English“You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT EnglishDeep Discipleship CohortThe State of Theology Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Season 13 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on August 22! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 13.Questions Covered in This Episode:What are we doing this season?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation“Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” by Jen WilkinTraining the Church Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Kevin Grasso to discuss why learning the Bible in its original language is important and how Biblingo can help.Questions Covered in This Episode:Why is it valuable for ordinary people to be able to study the bible in the original languages?Where did the desire to know the Bible in its original languages come from for you?Are there any passages in Exodus that you could help us dive deeper into by looking at the original language it was written in?What would you say to the person who doesn’t have time for a seminary degree or class to learn the Bible in its original language?How does Biblingo work?Guest Bio:Kevin Grasso is the co-founder and Ceo of Biblingo: Biblingo’s mission is to advance God’s Word in the world by making the biblical languages more accessible and easier to learn through technology.Kevin holds an MA in Linguistics with a concentration in Bible Translation from Dallas International University, an MA in comparative religion from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (focusing on Paul and second temple Judaism), and a PhD in Hebrew Language from Hebrew University. He has published in both Greek and Hebrew linguistics and focuses his research on the intersection of linguistics, exegesis, and biblical theology.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Exodus 3, Exodus 6, Exodus 22:22Biblingo Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Rebecca McLaughlin to talk about her newest book “Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?” Questions Covered in This Episode:Why did you write this book?What are the top three most common claims you deal with in the book? How can Christians speak the truth in love online and in person when it comes to addressing these claims?What do you hope Christians will do with this book?Guest Bio:Rebecca McLaughlin holds a PhD from Cambridge University and a theology degree from Oak Hill Seminary in London. She is the author of several books, including Confronting Christianity, The Secular Creed, Jesus Through the Eyes of Women, and Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?. You can follow her on X, Instagram, or her website.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:“Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?” by Rebecca McLaughlin“Confronting Christianity” by Rebecca McLaughlin“Is God Anti-Gay?” by Sam Allberry Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley come back to one of their most popular topics; brothers and sisters.Questions Covered in This Episode:Indisputably: This is something we get more feedback on than just about anything else…why is that?How has the culture shift affected this conversation?What has been the church's response to the shift in culture?What does the biblical doctrine of anthropology related to men and women have to affirm?When we say “we need each other,” what does that mean?What are the threats and liabilities of relationships? What about not having these relationships?Why are we using family-oriented language in this conversation?Does this apply to those who are not believers?How has this changed us? How has it changed our ministries?Why is getting this right crucial?Helpful Definitions:Adelphoi (ἀδελφοί): Brothers and sisters. The family of God.Philia: A kind of love that exists only among family, not just biologically but spiritually through the blood of Christ.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Crossway: Women of the Word“Jesus through the Eyes of Women” by Rebecca McLaughlin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Sam Allberry to have a conversation about union with Christ and both of their new books!Questions Covered in This Episode:Why do we need more books about union with Christ?Why did you title the book “One with My Lord”?Why did you title your book “Home with God”?When did this doctrine first become precious to you?What is “union with Christ?”Do you see any connection between the covenant love of God and union with Christ?What did you learn while writing this book?When people read your book - what do you hope is the one thing they walk away with?Helpful Definitions:Union with Christ: When we come to believe in Jesus we are made one with Him. We are so spiritually one with Jesus that His righteousness becomes ours and it is right for our sin to be carried by Him.The believer's identification, incorporation, and participation into all who Christ is and all that Christ does.Guest Bio:Sam Allberry is a pastor, apologist and speaker. He is the author of a number of books, including Is God Anti-Gay?, Why Bother with Church?, 7 Myths about Singleness, and What God Has To Say About Our Bodies. He has written extensively for numerous organizations, including The Gospel Coalition, Desiring God, and Living Out. Learn more about Sam’s books.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 21-22, Ephesians 2, Colossians 3, Matthew 28:20, Romans 6, 1 Corinthians 6, Hebrews 10:14“One with My Lord” by Sam Allberry“Home with God” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation, union with Christ.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation?Why does Paul continually use the preposition “in”?It is possible to live in this world as an individual not united to someone else?I grew up hearing Christ in me, not me in Christ; where is the emphasis? Why was I presented with the opposite?What is the doctrine of union with Christ?How have we imported modern conceptions of identity on being in Christ?What is the difference between dying to self and living with Christ and embracing those distinctions that you want to dignify?It is important to value diversity?How is union with Christ different from communion with God?If someone said they were feeling cold in their relationship with God, how would you respond to them?Helpful Definitions:Union with Christ:A believers identification in Christ and incorporation into the body of all of those who are identified with Christ before God.The unbreakable, unshakeable reception of all of God’s saving benefits.Unbreakable relationship with God held by Jesus for His people, received by grace through faith.Communion with Christ: Fellowship with God. The enjoyment of God’s saving benefits, it is shakeable and breakable and you can also deepen it.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Acts 9, John 17:1–26, Ephesians 1:3-10, Romans 6:1-11, Galatians 2:20, Romans 5:19, Colossians 1:27, Genesis 3, Luke 14:11, Revelation 5, Romans 16Crossway: Women of the WordKnowing Faith Episode #177 – Brothers and Sisters: More than a MetaphorAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin and Kyle Worley are joined by Courtney Doctor to discuss her new book From Garden to Glory!Questions Covered in This Episode:Why’d you write this book?When was biblical theology on your radar?What are the “aha” moments when telling the story of the Bible?How does understanding the Bible as a great narrative change one’s faith?You suggest that the structure of the bible’s story is a bit like a good fairy tale - what do you mean by that?How do you picture this book being utilized in the local church?Guest Bio:Courtney Doctor is an author, Bible teacher, frequent conference and retreat speaker, and periodic blogger. She received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary in 2013 and is the author of several Bible studies, including From Garden to Glory, Steadfast, and In View of God's Mercies. She currently serves as the Director of Women's Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. Her greatest desire in all of this is to be able to faithfully study, apply, and teach the word of God and help others to do the same. God has blessed Courtney and her husband, Craig, with four wonderful children, three great kids-in-law, five sweet grandchildren — and their much-loved, goofy dog, Walter.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:“From Garden to Glory” by Courtney DoctorTGC Womens Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by listeners!Questions Covered in This Episode:While we have unity in Christ…what 2nd, 3rd or 4th tier issues "divide" my favorite podcasters?What do you think are going to be the challenges of ministry in the local church in the next ten years?My local church has a tone of saying: “Just because you study the bible doesn’t mean you're mature in the faith…and discipleship doesn’t happen in programs, it happens in real relationships” Although both are true, I feel like it’s downplaying the indeed for people to be in active learning spaces. I’m just a volunteer bible teacher, helpWhen you go deer hunting, you fill a bucket with corn feed to get the deer to come out of hiding. If we were hunting you, what would we have to fill a bucket with to find you?Should Christians watch the Chosen?Should there be apprehension toward hiring a pastor without formal seminary training?What is your favorite Girl Scout cookie?How do we think about relating to Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox friends? Should we find unity still when we as Protestants disagree heavily on some matters?Do you think modern believers misunderstand anything about heaven? If so, what?If Jesus was killed by Herod upon birth would that change anything theologically?Did Jesus die for everyone?Can you speak about how there are some laws that we should still obey from the OT but not all of them?In the New City Catechism in Q.2 they ask: “What is God?” Why did they use “what” instead of “who?”Can a pastor faithfully use A.I. in the production of material for a sermon?Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Revelation 21, Luke 16:19-31The Chosen“Ten Words to Live By” by Jen WilkinNew City Catechism Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Andrew Wilson to discuss his new book, Remaking the World.Questions Covered in This Episode:Why did you write this book? What did you want people to take away from this book?Can you explain the “WEIRDER” acronym and how it’s helpful for understanding the Western world?What do you mean by romanticism?How would you help someone see the lenses they have on when reading the Bible and how to shape and form new ones?Are American readers reading this differently?Were you intentionally trying to balance the ditch between the West being bad and the West being supreme?What is your next writing project?Guest Bio:Andrew is Teaching Pastor at King’s Church London, and has degrees in history and theology from Cambridge (MA) and King’s College London (PhD). He is a columnist for Christianity Today, and has written several award-winning books, most recently Remaking the World: How 1776 Created the Post-Christian West.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:“Remaking the World” by Andrew Wilson“Augustine of Hippo” by Peter Brown“Dominion” by Tom Holland Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss complementarianism and why a healthy ecclesiology is important for this conversation. Before you listen to this episode be sure to listen to Knowing Faith Episode #44 – A Generous Complementarianism.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is a pastor?Why is there confusion over this office/title?How is this title misused?Who can be a pastor?How does the office of pastor relate to the priesthood of all believers?Who is qualified to do what? (Non-qualified men, women, non pastors, etc.)How should some of the other ongoing conversations among evangelicals and Southern Baptists shape the way we approach these questions?Helpful Definitions:Pastor: Office an elder, bishop, overseer, pastor. Defined and reserved for qualified men, who are ordained, to function and hold the office in local churches of what it means to be a pastor/elder/shepherd.Episkopos (ἐπίσκοπος)Presbyteros (πρεσβύτερος)Poimenas (ποιμένας)Anthropology: The doctrine of humanity.Ecclesiology: The doctrine of the church.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Knowing Faith Episode #44 – A Generous ComplementarianismEphesians 4:11“Saddleback Female Pastors Debate Raises Bigger Questions for the SBC” Christianity Today ArticleTraining the Church CohortAmazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Don Whitney to answer the question, how do we pray the Bible?Questions Covered in This Episode:How do we pray the Bible?Where should people begin when starting to pray the Bible?Guest Bio:Dr. Whitney is Associate Dean of the School of Theology and Professor of Biblical Spirituality. Dr. Whitney is a member of Third Avenue Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky. He is the author of many books including but not limited to; Praying the Bible and Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life. Whitney is married to Caffy, and they have one child. Resources Mentioned in this Episode:“Praying the Bible” by Don Whitney“Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life” by Don Whitney Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley wrap up the conversation on the book of Exodus!Questions Covered in This Episode:What have you learned as we explored Exodus over these two seasons?Where did we see the themes in Exodus in the rest of the Story of the Bible?What is biblical theology and how are we able to make connections across scripture?How can someone learn how to make connections across scripture?How can someone dive deeper into the study of Exodus?Helpful Definitions:Systematic Theology: What the Bible says about specific doctrines. Biblical Theology: Categorizing themes or stories throughout Scripture. Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Exodus, Revelation, Hebrews, Matthew, Luke“Even Better than Eden” by Nancy Guthrie“Echoes of Exodus” by Alastair Roberts and Andrew Wilson“God of Deliverance” by Jen Wilkin“God of Freedom” by Jen Wilkin“The Pentateuch” by J. Hays“Founding God's Nation” by Leon Kass Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Amy Gannett to continue the story of Exodus by discussing the themes found in Exodus 40. Questions Covered in This Episode:What’s your favorite part of the Exodus story?What is the purpose of the Tabernacle?Does the Tabernacle contain the glory and presence of God?Where has the cloud and fire shown up so far in the story?What is God inviting his people into with the tabernacle, journey into the land, and waiting?Do we get the cloud and fire type elsewhere in the story?What comes next in the Pentateuch?Guest Bio:Amy Gannett (M.Div, Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary) is a speaker, writer, and Bible teacher. She is the author of several exegetical Bible studies, and her teaching and writing has been featured on Christian outlets like Well-Watered Women, The Gospel Coalition, JourneyWomen, Risen Motherhood, and Christ and Pop Culture.She is also the founder of Tiny Theologians, which offers training tools for parents and children’s ministries, equipping them to pass on the Christian faith to the next generation. You can find her online at amygannett.com, and on social media at @amycategannett and @tinytheologians.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Exodus 40:34-38, Acts 2, Matthew 5:14, Revelation 16, John 8:12Tiny Theologians PodcastTiny Theologians Website Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the significance of “The Attributes of God” by A.W. Pink.Questions Covered in This Episode:When did you first come across AW Pink?Who was AW Pink? Why is he significant?What are the attributes of God?How significant was Pink's work when you were writing your books on the attributes?How do the attributes of God help us understand scripture?Does god have attributes or is God his attributes?Why do you keep reading this book? What stands out to you?Why should a listener consider reading it?Helpful Definitions:Incommunicable Attributes: Things that make God God, that we cannot be.Communicable Attributes: Things that God shares in common with his creation.Divine Simplicity: God does not have parts. Resources Mentioned in this Episode:"The Attributes of God" by A.W. Pink“The Knowledge of the Holy” by A.W. Tozer“None Like Him” by Jen Wilkin“In His Image” by Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jason Allen to answer the question; “why for the church”?Questions Covered in This Episode:Why is the motto for Midwestern, “For the Church”?When you look back, what is one thing you see at Midwestern that is a direct result of your mission?Guest Bio:Dr. Jason Allen is the president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. In addition to his role as president, he also serves as a professor for preaching and pastoral ministry. He is the author of a number of books including; Turnaround: The Remarkable Story of an Institutional Transformation and the 10 Essential Principles and Practices That Made It Happen. He posts essays on his website, jasonkallen.com, and hosts a weekly podcast, “Preaching & Preachers.”Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Midwestern Baptist Theological SeminaryFor the Church Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.