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Deep Dive with Alexa Arnold & Kate Cockrill on Working & Parenting
Season 1 · Episode 271

Deep Dive with Alexa Arnold & Kate Cockrill on Working & Parenting

When the Job Is Big and the Kid Is Little

Kelly Corrigan Wonders · Kelly Corrigan

November 18, 20251h 5m

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Show Notes

A text arrives: want to help build a movement around Jonathan Haidt's new book? Within a week, Alexa Arnold is sitting in his NYU office discussing how to change the world—and then she's in a hot tub with friends having a panic attack because she can't figure out how to do this massive job and raise an 18-month-old at the same time. In this final episode of The Tryhards—a three-part series for ambitious parents trying to be the best version of themselves day by day—Kelly talks with Alexa Arnold and Kate Cockrell about intensive parenting, impossible standards, and what it means to choose work you love while raising humans who need you. Through conversations about performing motherhood online, the merge of adult world and kid world, and why competence plus joy might be the actual goal, they explore how modern parenting became unsustainably intense and whether caring for your own purpose is actually one of the best things you can do for your kids.


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