Podcast 19 – My Skinny, Little Arm Got Allergy Shots

In this podcast, we cover:

1:58 A   Allergic, Joette’s new course

6:50 B   How the allergies started 

20:42 C  Miasms or inherited taint

36:54 D  Who should take the course and why

46:36 E  Kali bichromium for allergies

You are listening to a podcast from JoetteCalabrese.com where nationally certified American homeopath, public speaker, and author, Joette Calabrese, shares her passion for helping families stay healthy through homeopathy and nutrient-dense nutrition.

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Paola:  We’ve got another great podcast for you at joettecalabrese.com and here’s what’s coming up.

Joette:  Then they test you for it. I don’t know of any conventional allergist that tests you for nail polish, or cigarette smoke, or fumes in the truck ahead of you in the traffic. I’ll be honest with you. I think this is more insidious, this pharmaceutical industry because it gets you when you’re down. You’re already sick and scared and you say, “Oh my gosh, what am I going to do?” And now it’s telling you, not now, it’s been in the last decade, they’ve been encouraging people to go to the doctor and pressure their doctor. They don’t use the word pressure but that’s what it is. About every two weeks, I would go for these shots. As a small child with a skinny, little arm and they were giving me 16 shots, I mean I used to freak when I saw that.

Paola:  In this podcast, Joette is going to talk a lot about allergies. Be sure to stick around to the end of the podcast when she gives a great remedy for sinus problems. It’s funny how this comes full circle because we recorded this on a Monday and now it’s a Friday and I have just suffered from a terrible sinus infection. You can tell from my voice I’m still a little under the weather. Lo and behold, the remedy that she talks about in this podcast just a few days ago is the remedy that cleared out that sinus infection for me.

So here we go. Hi Joette, I’m excited to be doing another podcast with you.

Joette:  I know. I love it too, Paola.

Paola:  We’ve got a really great topic coming up because it has to do with the course that you’re going to launch pretty soon here.

Joette:  Yeah.

Paola:  The course is called Allergic with a question mark and an exclamation point. So why is it called Allergic? Why isn’t it called allergies? 

Allergic, Joette’s new course

 Joette:  Yeah, good distinction. When we first brought that word up, we weren’t really sure how to put it but I think that it makes it different. The two are different because most people think of allergies as something that they have seasonally, seasonal allergies or animal allergies, or food allergies. But allergic seems more encompassing. It’s a broader umbrella. So it incorporates not just allergies to the conventional ideas of what allergies are but also to having chemical sensitivities: food intolerances, allergic to perfumes, allergic to tobacco smoke, or even the change of weather, the change of seasons, barometric pressure changes. So I think it’s a broader term. We wanted to make sure the people understood that we get that, that I get that that it’s s broader term that people are suffering from these days.

Paola:  Yeah, that’s absolutely right. It’s true that the conventional side just really sees kind of anaphylaxis than your allergic or histamine issues.

Joette:  Right and they test you for it. I don’t know of any conventional allergist that tests you for nail polish, or cigarette smoke, or fumes in the truck ahead of you in the traffic. I knew years ago that that’s what I had. I could feel it instantly. I knew right away when somebody sprayed pesticide. I stopped wearing nail polish, those kinds of things. I didn’t need to be tested. It was pretty clear.

Paola:  Right, right, exactly, which leads actually to my next question. You have a history of allergies. Isn’t that why you started homeopathy in the first place?

Joette:  Yeah. I would say it goes even further back than that, further back from homeopathy. Rarely does the person come from illness directly into homeopathy unless you live in Europe, South America, or India. But in North America, people have to travel down this long, circuitous path from I don’t feel well to conventional medicine and all the drugs to gee, I don’t think I like these drugs anymore. They’re making me sicker in a new way to the health food store, vegan, macrobiotic, vitamin therapy, synthetic vitamins. Oh maybe synthetic is not a good idea, okay, now we go to natural vitamins and supplements. Oh my gosh, by the time people get to homeopathy, they’ve spent a good decade.

Paola:  And they’re pretty desperate. You are right though, I’m from Brazil. When my parents moved us as little immigrants to the United States, she brought her homeopathy kit. I told her, “So you understand [00:4:50].” Like, “I don’t know what you’re talking about. When you got sick, I just looked it up in my little book and I gave you the remedy.” I thought that was great. But listen, so then we’re here for 10 years. My mom throws away her kit.

Joette:  Oh no! Oh, she Americanized in the wrong way.

Paola:  Yes!

Joette:  I know about being Americanized but I got to tell you, that was the wrong way to go.

Paola:  It was and it goes exactly to what you just said. It’s like she got influenced in doctors and so she threw.

Joette:  Culture, the culture shifts you.

Paola:  Yes, it did. So you’re absolutely right.

Joette:  Yes, yes, yes. Culture is huge. There’s no doubt about it. When you look at a women’s magazine, you can see who’s paying for all the advertising of the magazine. It’s all the pharmaceutical industry. Then you go on television. Oh my gosh, there it is again. Oh my gosh, it’s in the news. Oh, I can’t get away from this stuff. It’s ubiquitous. Every billboard and magazine and newspaper and radio, it’s the way it used to be with the tobacco and the alcohol industry. That was made illegal. They actually got after those two industries.

I’ll be honest with you, I think this is more insidious, this pharmaceutical industry because it gets you when you’re down. You’re already sick and scared and you say, “Oh my gosh. What am I going to do?” And now it’s telling me, not now, it’s been in the last decade, they’ve been encouraging people to go to the doctor and pressure their doctor. They don’t use the word pressure but that’s what it is. Pressure their doctor, “Why don’t you find out if this is right for you?” So it’s not even up to the doctor anymore. It used to be just the doctors of journals that would have all these advertisements. They got smart. They got sleek. They now advertise to the general public.

Paola:  Well and they’re so good at it.

Joette:  Oh they’re brilliant.

Paola:  I mean case and point, look at the GARDASIL vaccine.

Joette:  Oh my gosh, it’s brilliant.

Paola:  And how they’re marketing.

Joette:  Absolutely.

Paola:  It’s on MTV. It’s on all that age group. It’s everywhere. Back to allergies, tell me, you had it as a kid, right?

Joette:  Yes.

Paola:  Your whole life, you say it was your middle name?

Joette:  Right, yeah, my middle name used to be allergies. But now, it isn’t anymore. I’m just back to Josephine. That’s actually my middle name, Joette Josephine. I know. I know. They just had to make sure that they got their Jo in there.

How the allergies started

I wasn’t a kid, I was an infant. I was six weeks old when my mother stopped nursing me. We’re talking early 50s, folks. I mean, I’m not a young woman. I got a vaccine. I reacted to this vaccine. I believe it was polio because I don’t know that there was anything more than polio, maybe small pox in those days. I do have my records but I forgot which one it was. Shortly after that, I got an ear infection. Of course, antibiotics were used. Shortly after the antibiotics, up came eczema. It started out on my cheeks. It was pretty rough and raw. Then another ear infection came along and you know the story. This is everybody’s story, another round of antibiotics. In those days, it was an injection of penicillin which does the same.

So then that second otitis media was met with antibiotics. Then lo and behold, eczema that was at every flexor, behind my knees, inside my elbows, on my neck, behind my ears and then I was plagued. So I was plagued with it. Every time I got another ear infection, this is the way my mother remembered it, it seemed to be the ear infection, what she was thinking. That’s what of course what the doctor was saying because the doctor is not going to say, “Oh, it’s got to be the drugs I used on you or on her.” They’re not going to say that. They’re going to say, “Oh, it must be these ear infections.” Then they go, “Tsk, tsk, tsk, that old inheritance.” They’re not saying that but that’s the implication, there’s something wrong with your inheritance. This is a newborn for goodness’ sakes.

Paola:  It’s not his fault or her fault.

Joette:  No, absolutely. So it was my mother’s fault, of course, my father’s fault.

Paola:  All your ancestors.

Joette:  My ancestors all the way back who had never had, by the way, never had antibiotics. I was the first, pretty much the first generation. My father had had a couple of antibiotics by my mother never did. My parents were born at home. They were of that generation where the families couldn’t afford going to a doctor. They mistrusted them. They didn’t believe that the doctors would be helpful to them. They thought they would be – well, they were immigrants – they didn’t trust. So they stayed away. Instead, they used their herbs and their home methods.

Well anyway, then I became a child that was not just one with eczema, I was blanketed in eczema. I mean, there were very few parts of my body that didn’t have it. I didn’t have it on the bottoms of my feet or the palms of my hands. I didn’t have it in my scalp. I didn’t have it in my ears. I had it behind my ears, in front of my ears, down my neck, across my face. It was everywhere. I didn’t have it on my shoulders and my chest but my stomach, my legs, big, huge patches, very uncomfortable, unsightly, embarrassing, and I was always told to stop scratching. So that’s like, for those of you who are out there and have babies, that’s like when the doctors says don’t push in labor. Don’t push. Are you kidding me? Do you think I’m like Herculean or something? 

Paola:  What?

Joette:  When you’re in transition or when you’re past transition, you’re pushing. I’m sorry, doc. There’s no way. I’m pushing.

Paola:  My girlfriend, she had her baby in the car on accident obviously on the way to the birthing center, whatever. And her husband kept yelling, “Stop pushing.”

Joette:  I know. Yeah, right.

Paola:  She’s like, “I’m not doing it. It’s the body’s doing it.”

Joette:  This is a conscious effort, folks. So, to stop scratching was ridiculous. We got steroid creams and they were just coming out at that time. All the miracle drugs were coming out in the early 50s. So we were told to use it sparingly because it would cause trouble later in life. So we used it only when I was in a horrendous flare and my mother was very careful about it. One jar lasted many years because she was very afraid of – my cousin was our doctor – what my cousin warned her about regards to the detriments of using the steroid creams.

Paola:  Tell us. How does this relate to allergies then? Someone might be new to this. They may not realize the connection.

Joette:  One of the things that was found out by my mother taking to an allergist and getting my 16 shots. I’ll never forget it. I’ve actually written about it on my blog. I remember getting the shots. I’m sorry going off in this tangents but I think it makes it more interesting when you hear stories about how this happens to people. I remember seeing the tray that would come in and I knew what was in that tray. It was covered with a cloth but I started to recognize it because I would go about every two weeks, I would go for these shots. As a small child with skinny, little arm and they were giving you 16 shots, I mean I used to freak when I saw that.

Paola:  The steroid shots?

Joette:  These were shots to determine what I was allergic to. What is causing this, they were asking themselves. So was it orange juice? Was it feathers? Was it chocolate? Was it dogs? Was it eggs and milk? So they determined it was yes, all of the above. It was all of that. It was all of that. So, no matter what it was they tested me for, it was that. So basically I was allergic to everything. The more antibiotics I got, I became more and more allergic. But nobody ever tested me interestingly for antibiotics, the stuff that they were doing. That was the invidious for all of this, the etiology. So I don’t know if it would have shown up that way to be honest because it wasn’t that I was allergic to it. It was that it had changed my gut essentially. It changed the architecture of my molecular makeup, so to speak.

So I lived my life not being able to have chocolate and dairy and eggs and no feather pillows and no wool. In those days in the 50s, there were no such, I mean we lived in New York State so we had to wear wool coats. No wool for me. It was very hard to find something that didn’t have down or wool. My mother went crazy trying to find all these things. They were allergies. Even as abstinent as my mother and later I was from these substances, it didn’t make any difference. It might have caught back on a flare but it would not have kept me from being allergic consistently all the time. 

Paola:  That’s what makes your message so unique is that you say fine, if abstinence helps a little bit to it. But that is not a goal.

Joette:  It’s not the goal. That’s not a life. That’s not a lifestyle. To abstain from all those things, I mean and the list was longer than that. I mean, it was pretty long because if you can’t have eggs then you really shouldn’t have chicken in many cases. If you can’t have dairy then you shouldn’t have beef. It’s the same species. I’m not saying that’s so for everyone but it depends on the depth and breadth. It’s a little different for everyone but when you have sensitivity to one thing generally, more come down the pike. There’s nothing in conventional medicine that I’m aware of that corrects that. So I went through my life feeling really ugly and homely. People looking at my legs and my arms, I know I was horrible, horrible.

Paola:  You’re the bubble girl.

Joette:  Yeah, I was the bubble girl. I wore long sleeves in the summer and pants in the summer so nobody could see my legs and my arms and all that. Then I hit puberty which was pretty interesting because then it was a big shift. It kind of dissolved. It went away. The eczema went completely away when I was about 12, maybe more like 13. I had one big, bad experience at 12 years old because my father bought a new car and we travelled down to Florida on a trip. It was the one vacation we ever had in our whole lives. I got really sick because it was a brand new car. It was loaded with chemicals. I got very, very, very sick. It took weeks to get over that.

But after that, about a year later, that was the end of it. I never got it again. Then instead, what I had was gut problems. The gut problems were I have lots of pain after I ate. I had a very low appetite. I was really thin. I had lots and lots of stomachaches. So those stomachaches were a problem because they kept me from living my life. I missed school. I missed social events and those kinds of things. I kind of [00:15:43]. Then in my 20s, it was like a grace period. Then I got hit hard again in my 30s. Doctors often say, “Oh, they’ll grow out of it.” No, no, no, you don’t grow out of these things, not if they’ve been treated with medications.

Paola:  It’s almost like it retreats and creates a new plan and then attacks again with a new way.

Joette:  Right, right. Speaking of this course, I just want to say that when we talk about these things deeply in homeopathy, we talk about the direction of disease and then the direction of cure. That is something we’re going to be covering in this course that you’re talking about. I know that some people might worry, “Is this going to be an overlap with the gut courses that I’ve given?”

Paola:  Exactly. That’s exactly what I was thinking. If someone buys the Allergy course and they already own the Good Gut, Bad Gut course, would they want to buy this course?

Joette:  There will be overlap. But thank God we have overlap because if there is an overlap, really, you’ll never get this whole picture of homeopathy because there are homeopathic medicines that work in many different ways and also need to be repeated so that you can understand it with a different set of circumstances, with a different kind of case. Here is how we make this fresh. Now, look at it from this point of view instead of that point of view. Whereas in the gut course, we taught it strictly from a gastrointestinal point of view, in the skin course (we have a skin course too), we talk about it strictly from a skin course. But with this Allergic course, we’re talking about kind of my whole picture because first, it was eczema and ear infections and also, I might add susceptibility to strep throat. Then my tonsils were extracted, I mean we go on and on about how this is all related. It’s very related. So, I want to spend or I am spending a lot of time working on trying to make this new course as in depth and as fresh as possible but there has to be overlap.

Paola:  Well, I think the perfect example of this is just a single homeopathic remedy, how it can be used for many different things like you’re just saying. Here’s a quick example, Ipecac, when you look at it from a female perspective, you think of it maybe during morning sickness.

Joette:  Yes.

Paola:  We’ve got Ipecac again and if you look at it from a food poisoning perspective or a gastrointestinal, you think of Ipecac that way. Then you can also think of Ipecac with diarrhea and dysentery, from that kind of a perspective.

Joette:  And a cough. Ipecac’s great for coughs.

Paola:  You’re right, right. I remember one time we met and you said, “Oh Paola, take some Ipecac.” So it’s just approaching the same remedies but from different directions as we get a complete world view -.

Joette:  Yeah, we’ll be still using some of the same protocols because it’s kind of foolish not to use it just because I mentioned it in another course. It got to be repeating. There’s no doubt about it.

Paola:  But definitely you’re saying even though it’s coming from a different perspective and there may be some repeated protocols, there’s going to be plenty of new information.

Joette:  Yes, ma’am.

Paola:  Okay.

Joette:  Absolutely.

Paola:  I love that. So you really do have to let go of the allopathic model when you use homeopathy. When you think of one remedy treating one thing, no, it treats many things.

Joette:  Yes. You know how you learn this, Paola? You go online. Let’s say you look up Ipecac. You go online and write Ipecac homeopathic materia medica. Look it up on a materia medica. It’s usually Boericke, Dr. Boericke’s material medica who died decades ago or Dr. James Tyler Kent. He died decades ago, half a century ago. Those are the kind of people you want to read about Ipecac. Now, look at all the indications. It’s sweeping. Each of these remedies is pretty sweeping.

If you get a good material medica really like the Concordant, Frans Vermeulen’s Concordant for example, look it up online. I don’t know how much of that is online. But you look at them and you’ll say, “My gosh, Sulphur has six pages of indications. Holy cow.” Now you say, “Well, I thought Sulphur was only for hot flashes.” No, it’s for many, many conditions. If you know Sulphur and you’ve read it and you understand it has something to do with heat, not always but often, it has to do with heat or burning. Now you can think outside the box and say now I get why we use that for let’s say rectal burning. I get it. Now I understand why you can also use it for hot flashes during menopause.

Paola:  Right, I like that. Now, there is a specific subject in this course which I’m really excited about because you haven’t discussed it in any of the other courses. That was miasms. So tell me a little bit about that.

Miasms or inherited taint

Joette:  Let’s go back to my story because I think that will be instructive. When I got that vaccine and that antibiotic, why didn’t I get seizures? Some kids get seizures after vaccines. I mean, there are all kinds of these. Why didn’t I get an eye infection? Why didn’t I get conjunctivitis?

Paola:  Some people get nothing.

Joette:  Some people get nothing, absolutely. Why was I even affected at all? Good point. Well because we have miasms. Miasms is another way of saying inherited taint, T-A-I-N-T, inherited taint or the inheritance. If we look back at my parents, they didn’t have eczema. Actually, my mother had a tiny bit of eczema behind her ears and a little bit around her elbow when she was a young woman. But that was all it was. So nobody thought to take her to an allergist. That would be the last thing my grandparents would have done. My father had some allergies to certain insects, these sandflies that fly around the neighborhood where he grew up and so his eyes would swell up. We had allergies in the family. So once you have a child, you can assume that that’s going to be a potential concern are these allergies. Interestingly, both of them, one was on the skin for my mother and the other one was around the eyes and swelling. That’s what showed up in me later in life was swelling. Oh actually, when we did that trip to Florida, that’s exactly what happened and my eyes swelled up, not from insects but from the chemicals in the new car.

Paola:  Which would have been probably Apis, right, Apis 6 (Apply the discount coupon code – “Joette”– at check-out for an additional 20% off!)?

Joette:  Yeah, yeah, it would have been, absolutely. Apis, especially when it looks there are bags of water. It’s edematous, really, really swollen with fluid inside. So that would have helped. It would have helped my father all those years, too. So at any rate, what we’re looking at is when I was given the vaccine, the miasm was stimulated. The inheritance, the lowest level of the inheritance, the weakest link in the inheritance was let loose or was weakened further. So had I not had those allopathic methods administered to me at such a tender age and at the same time my mother stopped nursing, it was like boom, boom, boom. Really, when you think about it, it’s huge. No more nursing, vaccine, and antibiotics. No! I mean I was an infant.

Paola:  It’s the alarm clock for the sleeping giant.

Joette:  Yes.

Paola:  It’s like wake up now.

Joette:  Yeah, somebody kicked him in the gut and said wake up sleeping giant. All the bad stuff that’s in your inheritance has just been awakened. So I wasn’t going to get toenail fungus. I wasn’t going to get seizures. I was going to get what was already there lurking in the background that needed to be protected and unknowingly, my parents didn’t do that.

Paola:  This is so funny. People will say, “Well, we have pretty good genetics. Nobody in my family has cancer or whatever.” And I just want to say you’re not perfect. You’re not a Spartan, okay? Everyone has something.

Joette:  We have a lawyer here, folks.

Paola:  I know. You do no know. Everyone has something and you want to know what it is?

Joette:  Take a drug.

Paola:  Keep doing what you’re doing and don’t listen to me.

Joette:  Keep taking those drugs and you’ll see what the weakest links are in your family. But will this happen to everyone? Like you said, no, it doesn’t. There are many people who can get past all of this stuff pretty easily. But I was very sensitive and have been a good part of my life to chemicals, to heavy metals, to additives, to preservatives. So I think that had a lot to do with how I reacted as well. But who knows? Who know? You could analyze that until the cows come home. I don’t know that it’s worthy of that. Was it the adjuncts in the polio vaccine or was it polio vaccine. Was it the live polio that was injected? Was it live or was it dead or killed? I can’t remember now when they were. I don’t know what they were using in early 50s. Was it killed polio or the live? It was the sugar cube versus the injection? I would not have remembered, of course, what was done to me but I could certainly look it up and find out which one it was.

Paola:  So you’re saying the miasms that you’re going to talk about then look at correcting your genetics, basically?

Joette:  Yes. Now, that’s a big sweeping statement, isn’t it? Nobody can release that. What do you mean? If it’s inherited, I’m stuck with it, right? No, no, no, no, no. It means that you will always have the propensity for that but we want to correct the condition, the disease. It can be done. I’ve seen it done. I’m not going to tell you that it’s everyone. It can be done. I’m not going to tell everyone that they can all be cured because I believe and this is actually something that the Banerjis told me and I was thinking this all along but they put it so succinctly. They said every disease is curable, not every person is curable. So cancer is curable with homeopathy. AIDS is curable with homeopathy. I’ve seen it at the Banerji clinic. I’ve seen it. I’ve watched it. I’ve observed it. I’ve gone back looked at the records. I’ve checked it out. I want to see it for myself. I believe it. I see it. It’s data that is reproducible data. But it doesn’t mean that everybody with AIDS will be cured because it depends on how far they are, how deep the miasm is, how many the drugs they’ve taken.

Paola:  Their vital force, basically.

Joette:  Their vital force, absolutely. Their circumstances, there’s a lot to be included in this. Then a lot of people say, “Well so, what about my vital force? What are the chances of my getting past this?” Well we still don’t know.

Paola:  You just got to do it.

Joette:  We do the best we can. That’s right. We do the best we can. Of course, we want to put our ducks in order. I always tell people, “Look, make good choices. Before you have the baby, get married.” That makes life easy, right? It’s simple. It makes life super easy because now you’ve got two people taking care of one person. But make sure you’ve also got food on the table and you’ve got a roof over your head. I mean that’s just logical to me and it should be the right person to marry, too. That’s a big deal, huge. Make sure that person doesn’t have cocaine addiction.

Paola:  I always joked. I used to work at the bank when my husband and I were dating. He had an account at the bank that I worked at. Do you think I looked it up to see if he was in debts or whatever and what kind of places he was going to? Absolutely.

Joette:  I know. In the old days, you’d have to prove – the woman’s family would have to prove the dowry value. So you’re just using it in the modern way.

Paola:  Just doing my due diligence and I’m not ashamed.

Joette:  Yeah, you don’t want to live in abject poverty. You don’t want to do this alone. You want to do this. A partner makes a big difference. A husband makes s huge difference. So now you also want to make sure that you’re eating good food. Now, how can you do that without the other underpinnings? It’s possible. Please don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that mothers out there who don’t have husbands are naughty or anything. I’m just telling you that it certainly makes it a lot easier in the long run if you’re doing this with someone else.

Paola:  Sure. So, kind of eating a high quality diet, that raw milk.

Joette:  Absolutely, absolutely.

Paola:  Reducing your stress.

Joette:  Yes, fresh air. Try to buy a house that doesn’t have pesticides sprayed all around it. Try to get into a school where you feel comfortable with where it’s a good school or you decide to homeschool. These are huge decisions and you want all your options available to you.

Paola:  Right, right. If your immediate family is exhaustingly stressful, move a few hours away. Do what it takes.

Joette:  And if standard family is good for you, by all means, take advantage of that. You need that extended family. Grandparents are key.

Paola:  Going back to the concept of genetics, there’s this hot new word out there called epigenetics. So we know about genetics but now it’s epigenetics. I’m not sure if all our listeners know what epigenetics is. It’s basically the modification of gene expression rather than the alteration of the genetic code itself.

Joette:  So we’re trying splitting hairs here. We’re moderating not changing.

Paola:  Right. So genetics, they’re saying, can change completely the code. Then epigenetics is saying is instead the code is the same, it’s just how it’s expressing itself as that.

Joette:  Yeah, yeah, so the expression of it, not the underlying molecular level of it, the makeup of it. Well and miasms have to do with what we’re talking about. There’s no doubt about it. I think we’re kind of splitting hairs, although it would be fascinating to find that out homeopathically.

But here’s the thing. Modern science is always digging around to find out these kinds of answers. I’ll be honest with you. I don’t think we have any answers. I mean we know that there are certain inherited taints in the family. Whether you look it up and you go through blood tests or saliva tests or other kinds of molecular tests, there are specific diseases that you’re likely to get when you learn about miasms. That’s already determined. That was determined by Dr. Samuel Hahnemann back in the early 1800s, 1801, 1810, 1805. That was all figured out, not with microscopes, not with testing of saliva but it was determined through clinical experience. It was seen time and again. It’s a fascinating study. I won’t go into it too much here because we’re all going to talk about it in this course. I mean, we could talk about this all day long. Miasms are very fascinating.

But you can see that it’s coming from the family. What I love about this is it’s not saying, “Oh jeepers, now I’m doomed.” I’d rather say, “No. Look at your health. Look at your parent’s health. Look at your husband’s health and his parent’s health. Now, you know where your kids are going if you’re not careful, if you are imprudent, if there are drugs that are used for every sniffle and sneeze or even for not every sniffle and sneeze, for diseases or conditions that can so readily be corrected and aided or even softened if nothing else with methods that do not drive the pathology to a deeper state.” That’s the phrase. It drives the pathology or the family inheritance to a deeper state, a more sobering state. So that that next generation because now we’ve had three generations, four even, four generations depending on which family we’re looking at, of vaccinations. Now the kids are getting, I think the last tally was 69 vaccines by the time they reached college. By the time I reached college, I had maybe, I don’t know four.

Paola:  Wow.

Joette:  So it’s something to think about.

Paola:  So you’re saying, when it comes to homeopathy, who cares if the actual genetic code is different or if it’s expressing itself differently. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that it came from your family and you’re sick. So now we treat it with the protocol.

Joette:  Right. Now, we use homeopathy to uproot it. Now we can look down the pike and look at our children and say, “Ho, ho, now I better watch out for that because my husband had asthma and I had eczema. That could come down the pike.” It doesn’t take much to turn that on or as you said, kick – put the alarm clock next to that sleeping giant or I said kick him in the gut. Suddenly, he wakes up and all the wrath of the family inheritance comes out.

Paola:  They wake up mad. They don’t wake up happy.

Joette:  Right, right.

Paola:  So I, myself was allergic or intolerant to it. It wasn’t so much chemicals for me but it was food. If any of the listeners are listening, you might have heard of the Autoimmune Paleo diet. So I couldn’t have milk, eggs, soy, beans, nuts. I couldn’t have any form of -.

Joette:  Grains.

Paola:  Oh, no grains, no rice, that goes without saying. I couldn’t even have nightshade vegetables, so tomatoes.

Joette:  Tomatoes and eggplant, and yeah, all the things that you love, that I love.

Paola:  Right. And I was slow and avocado, I was trying to crop out and that was a big one for me because it gave me all the fats that I needed and so I started living off of coconut products. I could tell that sooner or later that was going to get added to the list, too.

Joette:  The more myopic or the more narrow we become in our food choices, the more narrow we have to become on our food choices.

Paola:  Right, right. I have to say, Joette, all I avoid right now is gluten. I believe that I could probably start working on that but I’m just so happy that all I have to do is avoid gluten. So I’m just taking a break right now and just avoid gluten and I love it.

Joette:  Yeah, it’s a beautiful thing. I say that later on in life, I had eight, nine foods. I keep forgetting. I think I’ve said eight. I think I’ve said nine. So just to correct that, I’ve said both ways. Nine foods that I could eat and I called it my sad little diet.

Paola:  This was in your 30s?

Joette:  Yeah, when I was in my 30s. The more I couldn’t eat, the more I couldn’t eat. It was an exercise in my poor husband. We couldn’t go out to dinner. We couldn’t travel or if we did, we had coolers. I mean, I had the state of the art coolers, I have to tell you because when we were on road trips. That’s now what I want to be known for, my coolers.

Paola:  Right. Don’t.

Joette:  We went out to dinner last night. I didn’t even give it a thought. I mean I’m not going to eat stuff with MSG in it. But tonight, we’re going to meet with some friends and they’re going to have hotdogs and hamburgers and I’m going to eat it. Believe it or not, I’m going to eat on their free range. You know what I mean? These are not hotdogs that are high quality hotdogs. So actually, I will probably just have the hamburger but it’s certainly not from a free range cow. I can pretty much guarantee that. So I’m bringing the salad. I’m bringing an avocado salad and tomatoes. So I’ll eat a lot of my stuff and then I’ll have one hamburger, maybe without the bun.

Paola:  Right.

Joette:  I still