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Pope Francis on U.S. church divisions

Pope Francis made clear this week that he was keeping a close eye on the divisions in the U.S. church, which showed up most recently in the controversy over Archbishop Jose H. Gomez’s statement on the inauguration of President Joseph R. Biden. The statement was seen as being inappropriately confrontational by the Vatican, and stateside sparked responses both of support and opposition among other bishops. Cardinal Blase Cupich, who said on Twitter that the statement had not followed the bishops’ conference’s protocol, met with Pope Francis on Saturday. Though it is unclear what the two men talked about, it is evident that the Vatican went out of its way to publicize the fact that the meeting happened. America’s Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell also reported on Saturday that the pope had been briefed on the back and forth over the statement. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and host Colleen Dulle discuss Pope Francis’ strategy for bringing the bishops together in spite of their differences. “You know its defects better than I do,” the pope said to a group of American journalists this week, but “I look at the U.S. church with hope.” In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry look at Cardinal Bo’s efforts to advocate nonviolence in Myanmar following that country’s military coup this week. Colleen and Gerry also give an update on the plans for Pope Francis’ scheduled trip to Iraq next month and what his scheduled meeting with Shiite Ayatollah Al-Sistani could mean for intra-Muslim relations. Links from the show: Inside the Vatican | Inside the U.S. bishops’ clash with the Vatican over Joe Biden’s Inauguration Gerard O’Connell | Pope Francis meets with Cardinal Cupich, who criticized fellow U.S. bishops for confrontational approach to Biden Catholic News Service | Pope Francis talks Iraq trip, Catholic journalism and the church in U.S. Gerard O’Connell | The military again seize power in Myanmar despite pleas from Cardinal Bo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 3, 202127 min

US Bishops and Vatican clash over inauguration statement

Last week, the United States’ second Catholic president was sworn in. The day was tinged with controversy for some U.S. Catholics, though, when the president of the U.S. bishops’ conference, Archbishop José H. Gomez, issued a statement that was seen by the Vatican as being too confrontational towards the new president. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell look at explain the questions that have arisen around the controversial document: Is there a precedent for this type of statement on inauguration day? Did the Vatican really intervene to stop the bishops from publishing the statement, as one outlet reported? And were the proper protocols followed to gather the bishops’ input? Most importantly, what does the contrast between Pope Francis’ letter to President Biden and Archbishop Gomez’s statement reveal about divisions among the U.S. bishops and with the Vatican? Colleen and Gerry also give an update on Pope Francis’ recent sciatica flare-up, which caused him to miss three events this week. Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell | Pope Francis sends greeting to President Biden, contrasting with sharper message from head of U.S. bishops In rare rebuke, Cardinal Cupich criticizes USCCB president’s letter to President Biden How Joe Biden’s Catholic faith will shape his relationship with Pope Francis—and the U.S. bishops Gerard O’Connell | Pope Francis will miss three events this week due to painful sciatica Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 27, 202121 min

Ep 102Can defendants get a fair trial in the Vatican?

The Vatican’s judicial system is entering a busy season: Soon, it will deliver a verdict in the trial of the former head of the Vatican Bank who was accused of embezzlement; it will hear the abuse trial of a former St. Peter’s Basilica altar server; and it’s expected to bring charges against a woman accused of embezzling more than 500,000 Euros from the Vatican while employed under Cardinal Angelo Becciu. This week, the Vatican dropped its effort to extradite the woman from Italy to Vatican City, which has raised questions about whether the extradition could stand: Some argue that her lawyers could have made the case against extradition because the woman was not guaranteed a fair trial in the Vatican. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell unpack this question: What makes the Vatican’s judicial system different from a modern democratic one, like Italy’s, and what are its pros and cons? The hosts also discuss Australia’s recent admission that it overestimated the amount of money transferred from the Vatican to Australia by $1.5 billion. Colleen and Gerry discuss how such a big blunder could have been made and what questions remain about the transfers. Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell | Australia admits $1.5 billion error in investigation into suspected Vatican money laundering Can defendants get a fair trial at the Vatican? The Vatican decides it doesn’t want to hear Italy’s answer Inside the Vatican | The Vatican’s $200 million London real estate scandal, explained Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 20, 202121 min

Pope Francis denounces U.S. Capitol insurrection

The eyes of the world were on the United States last week, when a group of insurrectionists supporting President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol building as Congress was certifying the results of last year’s presidential election. Pope Francis said he was “astounded” and denounced the violence and the movement that caused it. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell discuss Pope Francis’ challenge to the U.S. to overcome its divisions and how the U.S. bishops will need to step up in order to achieve that. “The church can't be missing in action in such a big crisis,” Gerry said. Colleen and Gerry also explain this week’s update to canon law which opens the permanent lay liturgical ministries of lector (reader) and acolyte (server) to women for the first time. For a more in-depth look at the change, check out Colleen’s explainer article here. Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell | Pope Francis condemns the violence at the U.S. Capitol Gerard O’Connell | Pope Francis calls on Americans to promote reconciliation and protect democracy after the Capitol attack The Editors | Impeach. Convict. Now. Fr. Bryan Massingale | The Racist Attack on Our Nation’s Capitol Fr. Bryan Massingale and Fr. Matt Malone, S.J. | Video: How to make spiritual sense of the attack on the Capitol Archbishop Mark Coleridge | Catholic bishops can’t risk falling back on old tactics of political engagement Colleen Dulle | Explainer: The history of women lectors and altar servers—and what Pope Francis has changed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 13, 202124 min

Pope Francis takes away top office’s financial power

Welcome to Inside the Vatican’s 100th episode! This week, host Colleen Dulle and Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell celebrate their 100th episode, reminiscing on their favorite memories of the last two years of “Inside the Vatican.” They also give updates on Vatican City’s soon-to-arrive coronavirus vaccines and Pope Francis’ recent sciatica flare-up. (Don’t worry, he’s OK.) Colleen and Gerry also dive into a recent legally binding order from Pope Francis instructing the Vatican’s Secretariat of State, which was once its most powerful office, to transfer all of its assets to the Vatican’s financial oversight office and removing their office’s investing power. The decision comes as financial misconduct in the Secretariat of State is being investigated. With the investigation ongoing, Colleen asks, is Pope Francis jumping the gun with this punitive measure? Support “Inside the Vatican” by subscribing to America: americamagazine.org/subscribe Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell: Pope Francis cancels his New Year’s plans due to ‘a painful sciatica’ Gerard O’Connell: Pope Francis tests negative for Covid-19 after two close advisors were infected Pope formally strips Vatican secretariat of state of assets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 6, 202120 min

How 2020 changed the Vatican

The coronavirus pandemic upended everyone’s plans for 2020—including the Vatican’s. From the first weeks of the pandemic when Pope Francis prayed in the rain in St. Peter’s Square to the London finance scandal to the new standards of transparency ushered in by the McCarrick report, it’s been an unprecedented year in every way. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell recap the biggest Vatican moments of 2020. The hosts focus on three areas of change in the Vatican: transparency, missionary work, and solidarity with the poor. Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell: The Top 7 Pope Francis Stories of 2020 Deep Dive: The Vatican’s $200 million London real estate scandal, explained Deep Dive: How will historians judge Pope Pius XII’s decisions during World War II? Deep Dive: The Rise and Fall of Theodore McCarrick Deep Dive: The Vatican-China deal, explained Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 30, 202026 min

Pope Francis’ 2020 Christmas Messages

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Pope Francis held two pared-down and socially-distanced Christmas celebrations this week: First, Mass on Christmas Eve in St. Peter’s basilica, and then his “urbi et orbi” address and blessing “to the church and the world.” In both, we heard a common theme from Pope Francis in 2020: a strong call for greater fraternity among people. In this episode, host Colleen Dulle gives a quick update on what the pope said. Read Pope Francis’ Christmas Eve homily Read Pope Francis’ Urbi et Orbi address Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 26, 20204 min

Two Vatican cardinals have Covid

Just after Vatican City ordered enough doses of the coronavirus vaccine for all of its employees and their families, two cardinals who work close to the pope have tested positive for the virus. Cardinal Konrad Krajewski, the 57-year-old papal almoner who once climbed down a manhole to restore electricity to a building where homeless people were living, was taken to the hospital with pneumonia symptoms. Cardinal Giuseppe Bertello, 78, the president of the Governorate of Vatican City State, also tested positive. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell discuss the cardinals’ condition and the Vatican’s covid prevention measures, along with a new document from the Congregation from the Doctrine of the Faith stating that it is morally permissible for Catholics to be vaccinated against the coronavirus. Colleen and Gerry break down the C.D.F.’s argument on why a vaccine derived from cell lines from an aborted fetus is acceptable for Catholics to receive. The hosts also unpack Pope Francis’ address to the Roman curia on crisis and conflict. Links from the show: Two Vatican cardinals close to Pope Francis test positive for Covid-19 Vatican: Catholics can get Covid-19 vaccines that used abortion cells Pope Francis: Sorting the church into ‘right vs. left, progressive vs. traditionalist’ betrays its true nature Pope Francis’ 2020 address to the Roman Curia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 23, 202022 min

Can Pope Francis really visit Iraq?

Last week, the Vatican dropped a surprise announcement that Pope Francis would be visiting Iraq March 5-8, 2021. The announcement was surprising not least of all because of the ongoing pandemic and insurgency in the country. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell talk about how the Vatican is weighing the pastoral needs of Iraq’s embattled Christian community and the health and safety concerns for Pope Francis and for the crowds who want to see him. Up next, Gerry and Colleen give their takes on the Vatican’s futuristic Nativity set and explain why Darth Vader and an astronaut are included among the ceramic figures coming to adore the Christ child. Finally, Pope Francis declared a year of St. Joseph beginning December 8. Why did he choose St. Joseph as a patron for this year? Gerry and Colleen explain the background of the decision and reflect on the pope’s new letter on St. Joseph. Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell | Pope Francis plans to visit Iraq in March after getting a Covid vaccine Can Pope Francis visit Iraq safely—even with a Covid vaccine? Colleen Dulle | Why is Darth Vader in the Vatican’s Nativity scene? Pope Francis proclaims a year dedicated to St. Joseph St. Joseph is the patron saint we need in this pandemic Pope Francis | Apostolic Letter Patris Corde Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 16, 202024 min

Deep Dive: The Vatican-China Deal

In October, the Holy See and China renewed their controversial agreement on bishops’ appointments. If both sides are satisfied with how things are going after two years, the arrangement will become permanent. As it stands now, both sides want to see some changes before that can happen. In this special episode of “Inside the Vatican,” America editors Gerard O’Connell and Zac Davis join Colleen Dulle to explain what the Holy See and China each want from the deal. They unpack the story of the historic relationship between China and the Vatican: how the sides are compromising, where they are unwilling to compromise, and what will need to happen before they establish a permanent diplomatic relationship. Links from the show: The Catholic Church in China | A Short Documentary Gerard O’Connell | The China-Vatican agreement has been extended. Now, Rome is looking for more from Beijing. Gerard O’Connell | The Vatican is ready to renew its deal with China. Privately, officials admit they’re walking a tightrope. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 9, 202018 min

How the Vatican held a consistory like no other

This weekend’s consistory, where Pope Francis created 13 new cardinals, only 11 of whom were physically present, will go down in history as one of the church’s most unique celebrations. Ordinarily, thousands of guests crowd into St. Peter’s Basilica for the creation of new cardinals, who are fêted before and after the ceremony in countless parties and receptions. This year, due to the coronavirus pandemic, the cardinal-designates’ days before the consistory included no such parties: Instead, they faced 10 days of quarantine in the Vatican’s Santa Marta guesthouse, staying in their individual rooms and having meals delivered to the door. Several expressed in Zoom interviews their surprise at how strict the measures were. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell take a look at this year’s pared-down consistory and how Pope Francis has shifted the geography of the College of Cardinals. The hosts also discuss the Vatican’s similarly scaled-back Christmas plans and spend some time remembering soccer superstar Diego Maradona. Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell | Analysis: Pope Francis’ newest cardinals will help pick his successor. Who are they? Pope elevates 13 new cardinals then puts them in their place Pope Francis prays for late Diego Maradona Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 2, 202022 min

Austen Ivereigh on writing with Pope Francis

Pope Francis opens up about his “personal covids”—times of crisis in his life—in a new book called Let Us Dream, written in collaboration with his biographer, Austen Ivereigh. With Mr. Ivereigh’s encouragement, the pope brought his sometimes-lofty ideas for building a new society post-pandemic down to earth. He discloses in a new way how his lung operation as a young man taught him dependence on others and how his so-called “exile” in Cordoba, Argentina after that country’s “Dirty War” unexpectedly prepared him to become pope. In this bonus episode of “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and papal biographer Austen Ivereigh discuss Pope Francis’ view of the George Floyd protests, the #MeToo movement and the work of clerical sexual abuse survivors are an integral part of people reclaiming their dignity. Mr. Ivereigh and Ms. Dulle discuss the pope’s role as, as Mr. Ivereigh calls him, “the world’s spiritual director,” and how he hopes to apply Jesuit discernment to helping people to recover their collective memory and build a new future together. Links from the show: Pre-order Let Us Dream Colleen Dulle | Pope Francis talks about Uighurs, George Floyd and Universal Basic Income in new interview Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 25, 202033 min

Juan Carlos Cruz on the McCarrick Report

Juan Carlos Cruz is an abuse survivor and advocate who has the pope’s hear when it comes to clerical sexual abuse. In 2018, when Pope Francis went to Chile, he was asked about Juan Carlos’ abuser and his bishop’s cover-up. Francis dismissed Juan Carlos out of hand and called his accusations calumny. Soon after, Francis sent investigators to look into abuse in Chile, and they came back with a 2600-page report saying Juan Carlos and his friends had been telling the truth. Pope Francis apologized, and the two have had a good relationship ever since. On this episode of “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and Juan Carlos Cruz discuss Juan Carlos’ reactions to the Vatican’s report on former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick and what reforms Juan Carlos believes should come next. Watch a video version of this interview. Links from the show: Jesuitical Podcast | Juan Carlos Cruz: the survivor who changed the pope’s mind on sex abuse Colleen Dulle | Top 5 Takeaways from the McCarrick Report Does the McCarrick report exonerate Pope Francis? Yes and no. Editorial | The McCarrick Report lacked an independent investigator. It shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 23, 202022 min

Reactions to the McCarrick Report

Last week, the Vatican released its report on how former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick was able to rise through the ranks of the church hierarchy despite rumors swirling about him abusing priests, seminarians, and minors. Now, survivors and advocates in countries like Poland, Chile and Mexico want detailed Vatican reports on sexual abuse in their countries to be published, too. “Many people are saying, we’ve had the McCarrick report, now let’s have the Maciel report,” explains Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell, referring to the notoriously abusive priest, Fr. Marcial Maciel Degollado, founder of the Legionaries of Christ. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and host Colleen Dulle look at the ripple effects the McCarrick report has had in the United States and around the world. The two also discuss whether the Vatican can go back to normal after such an unprecedented disclosure of its inner workings. On one hand, Pope Francis has laid the legal framework for investigating anonymous abuse claims and investigating bishops, and he has now set a precedent for disclosing information about how bishops are appointed. On the other hand, he faced internal resistance to publishing the McCarrick report, and many bishops would prefer to continue business as usual. Will the calls for greater transparency and accountability coming from around the world be heeded? Links from the show: Inside the Vatican | Deep Dive: The Rise and Fall of Theodore McCarrick Gerard O’Connell | Deep Dive: The McCarrick Report and the popes it implicates Colleen Dulle | Top 5 Takeaways from the McCarrick Report The McCarrick Report and Pope John Paul II: Confronting a saint’s tarnished legacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 18, 202022 min

Deep Dive: The McCarrick Report

The Vatican’s long-awaited report on the rise of former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick was finally published yesterday. The document reveals that complaints about Mr. McCarrick’s abuse of seminarians reached all the way to Pope John Paul II, and that allegations of his abuse of children reached at least to John Paul’s top advisors. In this deep dive episode of “Inside the Vatican,” America’s Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell and producer Colleen Dulle explain the rise and fall of Theodore McCarrick, once the most prominent prelate in the U.S. Catholic church. The two unpack the accusations made in Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano’s incendiary 2018 letter and how those are addressed in the Vatican’s recent report. Gerry gives an up-close view of how the events of the last two years unfolded, and Colleen raises questions about whether this report will usher in a new era of accountability. You can find a transcript of this conversation at https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/inside-vatican. Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell | Deep Dive: The McCarrick Report and the popes it implicates Colleen Dulle | Top 5 Takeaways from the McCarrick Report The McCarrick Report and Pope John Paul II: Confronting a saint’s tarnished legacy Inside the Vatican | A 3-minute summary of what the McCarrick Report reveals U.S. Catholic leaders react to the McCarrick report Colleen Dulle | Explainer: What the church has done to fight clergy sex abuse since 2018’s ‘summer of shame’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 11, 202023 min

The McCarrick Report in 3 minutes

Colleen Dulle gives a brief update on the Vatican’s report on former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, which was published today. Read America Media's full report: Vatican report tracks McCarrick’s rise despite allegations of abuse and misconduct Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 10, 20203 min

What the Vatican thinks of the U.S. election

Many in the Vatican have kept a close eye on the U.S. presidential election, held Nov. 3. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” hosts Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss what advantages and disadvantages each candidate offers in the eyes of Holy See officials. The U.S. election comes amid a surge in coronavirus cases in Italy. Over the weekend, Italy saw more than 30,000 new cases per day, up from the previous peak of 5,000 per day in March. Gerry gives an update on restrictions in Italy and the Vatican, and the hosts discuss how the Vatican plans to approach two major upcoming events: the consistory to create new cardinals in late November and the pope’s traditional Christmas Mass. Finally, Colleen and Gerry discuss a memo from the Vatican’s Secretariat of State briefing ambassadors on Pope Francis’ widely-publicized comments on civil unions for same-sex couples. Correction: Describing Pope Francis' civil union comments, Gerry said they came from a 2018 interview. The interview was given in 2019. Read more: Several American seminarians in Rome test positive for COVID-19 Vatican breaks silence, explains Pope Francis’ civil union comments Find America Magazine’s election coverage at americamag.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 4, 202019 min

Did the pope change church teaching on same-sex unions?

Pope Francis made headlines last week when he endorsed civil unions for same-sex couples as part of an interview in a new documentary called “Francesco.” Almost immediately, questions emerged about the comments: Was the pope mistranslated? When did he make these comments? Had he been censored? This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell answer these questions “rapid fire,” as Colleen says, and unpack everything you need to know about the pope’s comments on civil unions for same-sex couples. The hosts also give an update on coronavirus in Italy and the Vatican, and discuss the nomination of the world’s first Black American cardinal and, briefly, the renewal of the Vatican-China deal. Keep an eye on our YouTube channel for an explainer video from Colleen and Gerry on Pope Francis' same-sex unions comments! Read more: Colleen Dulle | Explainer: What Pope Francis actually said about civil unions—and why it matters Gerard O’Connell | Analysis: What is going on at the Vatican’s communications department? Where homosexuality is still illegal, Pope Francis has thrown a lifeline to L.G.B.T. Catholics Gerard O’Connell | Pope Francis names 13 new cardinals, including Wilton Gregory, the archbishop of Washington D.C. Gerard O’Connell | The Vatican is ready to renew its deal with China. Privately, officials admit they’re walking a tightrope. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 28, 202020 min

Voting Catholic: What would Pope Francis do?

We're sharing an episode of America's 9-part podcast series "Voting Catholic." In the series finale, Sebastian speaks with Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego, a leading voice on Catholic Social Teaching in the American hierarchy. How should Catholics prioritize the issues? And what does it really mean to form your conscience? Bishop McElroy is the author of two books: The Search for an American Public Theology and Morality and American Foreign Policy. US Bishops teaching document on the political responsibility of Catholics: "Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship" Stay up-to-date with America Media's coverage of the 2020 election: www.americamagazine.org/newsletters You can support this media ministry at www.americamagazine.org/donate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 26, 202027 min

Pope Francis endorses same-sex civil unions

In a new documentary that premiered in Rome today, Pope Francis reiterated his support for civil unions for same-sex couples and slammed the Trump administration’s family separation policy. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle and Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell discuss the new documentary, “Francesco,” directed by Evgeny Afineevsky. Gerry interviewed the director, who sought to depict Francis’ papacy through the lens of the social issues the pope has focused on. Colleen and Gerry discuss the pope’s comments on the family separation policy coming out just weeks before the U.S. presidential election. “It’s cruelty, and separating kids from parents goes against natural rights,” the pope says in a new interview given for the documentary. “It’s something a Christian cannot do.” They also discuss the history behind Francis’ endorsement of legal protections for same-sex couples, which dates at least to Francis’ days as archbishop of Buenos Aires. Read more: Pope Francis declares support for same-sex civil unions for the first time as pope Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 21, 202022 min

Why won’t the pope wear a mask?

Vatican City saw seven new cases of the coronavirus this week, marking a sudden second wave of infections in the world’s smallest nation. Four of those infected were Swiss Guards; the other three were Vatican residents. As Vatican employees attempt to trace and test those who may have been exposed to these individuals, the influx of cases has thrown into question whether it is safe to continue papal audiences, where many people ignore social distance protocols and some, including Pope Francis, do not wear masks. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” hosts Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss the Vatican’s existing protocols and why Pope Francis may be hesitant to wear a mask. The hosts also explain Cardinal George Pell’s visit with Pope Francis this week. Is it the final flourish in a “victory lap” around his former rival, Cardinal Angelo Becciu? This week on the show, Colleen and Gerry discuss what they make of the meeting. Links from the show: Four Swiss Guards test positive as Covid-19 penetrates Vatican Gerard O’Connell: Why is Australia’s Cardinal Pell returning to Rome? Pope Francis welcomes Cardinal Pell after sex abuse trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 14, 202020 min

Gerry and Colleen unpack ‘Fratelli Tutti’

This week on the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell and producer Colleen Dulle unpack their takeaways from Pope Francis’ new encyclical, “Fratelli Tutti.” The hosts discuss the pope’s unique interpretation of the parable of the Good Samaritan. Pope Francis devotes an entire chapter of the encyclical to the story, calling on his readers to imagine whether they are most like the Samaritan or the priest and Levite who pass by the wounded man. He examines today’s social issues in light of the parable, saying that it is rare today for someone to give his or her time as the Samaritan did, and that the Samaritan would have been unable to care for the man without the cooperation of institutions like the inn where the man rested and was treated. Colleen recaps the new developments of the document, including the elevation of Francis’ ban on the death penalty to the level of an encyclical and the doubt he casts on whether modern wars are able to meet the requirements of a “just war” as described in just war theory. Gerry situates the encyclical in the rest of Francis’ pontificate, and the two discuss how “Fratelli Tutti” relates to “Laudato Si’.” The hosts also discuss the document’s impact on Catholic-Muslim relations. Pope Francis has tied “Fratelli Tutti” to the document on human fraternity he signed last year with the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, and he chose a Muslim judge who worked with both religous leaders to officially present “Fratelli Tutti” at the Vatican. Gerry gives some insights from his interview with the judge. Links from the show: Gerard O’Connell: In new encyclical, Pope Francis envisions ‘renewed hope’ from universal love, open to ‘every man and woman’ ‘Inside the Vatican’ podcast: ‘Fratelli Tutti’ in 5 minutes Colleen Dulle: VIDEO: Five takeaways from ‘Fratelli Tutti’ James Martin, S.J.: Pope Francis closes the door on the death penalty in ‘Fratelli Tutti’ Gerard O’Connell: First Muslim to ever present a papal encyclical praises ‘Fratelli Tutti’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 7, 202024 min

Fratelli Tutti in 5 minutes

Pope Francis’ new encyclical, Fratelli Tutti, was released today. The encyclical, which is the highest classification of papal document, is Francis’ diagnosis of the social problems plaguing our world—and his proposed cures. In this brief Inside the Vatican update, host Colleen Dulle breaks down the document’s main themes. Visit americamagazine.org for full coverage of Fratelli Tutti. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 4, 20205 min

Mike Pompeo to visit the Vatican

Cardinal Angelo Becciu resigned suddenly from his position as head of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Causes of Saints on Thursday night, Sept. 24. In a one-sentence press release, the Vatican announced that the cardinal also gave up the “rights connected to the Cardinalate,” including his titular church and participation in conclaves. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” hosts Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss the accusations of embezzlement and nepotism that Cardinal Becciu said Pope Francis brought against him when asking him to resign. Gerry and Colleen also discuss U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s visit to the Vatican this week. Mr. Pompeo has been critical of the Vatican’s provisional deal with China, which is up for renewal this year. He intends to urge Vatican officials not to renew the deal, arguing that continued dialogue with China despite the nation’s human rights abuses will weaken the Vatican’s moral standing. Links from the show: Powerful Vatican Cardinal Becciu resigns amid financial scandal Cardinal Becciu denies wrongdoing, says Pope Francis asking for his resignation was ‘surreal’ The Vatican is ready to renew its deal with China. Privately, officials admit they’re walking a tightrope. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 30, 202017 min

Pope Francis: ‘God loves your LGBT children as they are’

On September 17, two Vatican stories broke that illustrate the difference in style between Pope Francis and the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Pope Francis met a group of parents with L.G.B.T. children, telling them “God loves your children as they are” and “the church loves your children as they are because they are children of God.” The same day, news broke that the Irish priest Tony Flannery, who had been suspended from ministry in 2012 after speaking out in favor of women’s ordination to the priesthood, had been told by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that he could be restored to ministry if he signed an affirmation of church teaching on four hot-button issues including women’s ordination, homosexuality and gender theory. The Vatican has stated that it has been in dialogue with Father Flannery; however, Father Flannery says he has never been contacted directly by anyone from the C.D.F. As in past cases of the C.D.F. disciplining theologians, all communication has come through the priest’s superiors in what veteran Vatican reporter Gerard O’Connell calls an “impersonal” and “dehumanizing” process which seems at odds with Pope Francis’ hallmark strategy of personal accompaniment and dialogue. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and producer Colleen Dulle discuss why the C.D.F. appears out of step with the pope. After senior Vatican sources told Gerry that Pope Francis should intervene to change the culture in the C.D.F., the hosts discuss how that might be done. Links from the show: Pope Francis to parents of L.G.B.T. children: ‘God loves your children as they are.’ Suspended Irish priest Tony Flannery calls Vatican inquiry ‘unjust’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 23, 202022 min

From Belarus to Black Lives Matter, Pope Francis is listening

This weekend, Pope Francis called on government leaders and those with “public responsibilities” to meet the just demands of protestors. With protests rising around the world, which demonstrators was Francis referring to? Veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell joins host Colleen Dulle to unpack the protests Pope Francis has his eye on, from Greece to Belarus to Hong Kong and the United States. Earlier in the show, Gerry gives an update on the coronavirus in the Vatican. The hosts discuss Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle’s Covid-19 diagnosis and why Pope Francis is often photographed without a face mask. Links from the show: Cardinal Tagle has tested positive for Covid-19 in Manila, and is in isolation. Pope Francis urges government leaders to listen to protestors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 16, 202019 min

Pope Francis’ Covid Catechesis

The Vatican announced this weekend that Pope Francis will sign his new encyclical in Assisi on Oct. 3, just in time for the feast day on the following day of St. Francis, after whom the Pope took his name. The new document is called “Fratelli Tutti” or “Brothers and sisters, all” in Italian, and if Francis’ previous encyclical, “Laudato Si’,” is any indication, this will be a significant document. “Fratelli Tutti” will likely cover many of the themes that Pope Francis has addressed since the beginning of the pandemic, like solidarity, ecology and the growing wealth gap. Francis is concerned that as wealthy nations gradually control the virus’s spread and reopen, the poor may be left to deal both with continuing infections and the economic fallout of the pandemic. In addition to creating a Vatican coronavirus task force and donating money to pandemic relief efforts, Francis devoted his last five Wednesday general audiences to catechesis on human solidarity in the time of coronavirus. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” we devote the whole episode to that “Covid catechesis,” unpacking Francis’ central ideas of community, the universal destination of goods and care for the environment, which are likely to appear in the forthcoming encyclical “Fratelli Tutti.” Read more: Series: Pope Francis’ coronavirus catechesis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 9, 202010 min

The Secret Archives of Pope Pius XII

Just before Covid-19 paused public life in Italy, the entire “secret archives” of Pope Pius XII (1939-58) opened to researchers for the first time. The opening, which had long been asked for by historians and was announced under Pope Benedict XVI, would make available a treasure trove of documents from Pius’ pontificate, spanning the Second World War and into the Cold War. Some documents from the archive had been released from the 1960s to the 1980s to counter the popular narrative that Pius had been complicit or even cooperated with the Nazi regime. While historians agree the new documents will not likely reveal a “smoking gun” that indicts or exonerates Pius, they expect the archives to shed light on the rationale behind Pius’ decision not to publicly condemn Hitler and the Nazis, instead operating through private channels to stop the deportations of Jews from Italy. In this special edition of Inside the Vatican, host Colleen Dulle interviews historians Robert Ventresca and Massimo Faggioli about the opening of the archives, what we know about Pius’ wartime decisions, and what researchers expect to find. The three discuss, too, the impact these findings may have on Jewish-Catholic relations and on Pius’ ongoing canonization cause. Links from the show: Robert Ventresca Massimo Faggioli: La Croix International | Commonweal | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 2, 202023 min

Update: Vatican releases handbook on sex abuse

Today the Vatican released its long-awaited handbook, or “vademecum,” on how bishops and superiors of religious orders should handle allegations of sexual abuse against minors by clergy. This is the first time that all of the Vatican’s guidelines for handling abuse, from reporting to investigating and taking juridical action have been put together in one step-by-step format. In this special update episode of “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle unpacks what’s new in the handbook and why it took a year and a half for the Vatican to develop this document. Links from the show: Vatican publishes handbook for bishops and religious superiors to guide response to abuse allegations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 17, 20205 min

Is the church getting closer to ordaining women deacons?

In April of this year, the Vatican announced the creation of a new commission to study the female diaconate, following up on Pope Francis’ promise to reopen the question at the behest of the Amazonian bishops. Pope Francis had set up a previous commission to study the roles of female deacons in the early church in 2016. Though that commission’s final report had not been published, the pope described its findings as inconclusive and the members as “toads from different wells.” This week, on our last episode of “Inside the Vatican” before our summer hiatus, producer Colleen Dulle speaks with one of that commission’s members, Hofstra University Professor Phyllis Zagano. We discuss the church’s history not only of ordaining women deacons, but also the recent history of the conversation around ordaining them again. When the new commission was named in April, some who favor reinstituting the female diaconate expressed concern that the many of the new commission’s members opposed ordaining women deacons. On this week’s show, Ms. Zagano, who favors ordaining women deacons, gives her take on the new commission: “Looking at the membership, they are, interestingly enough, qualified to answer a single question that I think still needs to be determined on behalf of the Holy Father, which is, what is the ministry of the diaconate today? … And if you describe that, then what about that can a woman not do?” Links from the show: Pope Francis has set up a new commission to study women deacons Women: Icons of Christ by Phyllis Zagano, via Paulist Press Review: Phyllis Zagano makes the case for women deacons Video: Women Deacons: Past, Present, Future with Phyllis Zagano and Bernard Pottier, S.J. Inside the Vatican Listener Survey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 1, 202021 min

Benedict XVI makes surprise trip to Germany

Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI left Italy for the first time in seven years last week, traveling to Germany to visit his ill brother, Georg. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry explains the challenges travel poses for the emeritus pope and why Benedict returned to the Vatican after only a few days. Since it is Colleen and Gerry’s last episode together before the summer break, the two also look ahead to the next few months. Gerry explains how the Pope spends his summers, and Colleen and Gerry discuss what’s next for the Vatican’s ongoing coronavirus response and the long-awaited Vatican report on former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. Inside the Vatican will release a few special episodes this summer, beginning with an interview next week with researcher Phyllis Zagano about the two papal commissions to study women deacons. Finally, don’t forget to take our Inside the Vatican listener survey! Links from the show: Benedict XVI makes surprise visit to gravely ill brother in Germany Benedict XVI returns to Vatican after visiting his brother in Germany Podcast: What does the pope do on vacation? Inside the Vatican Listener Survey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 24, 202019 min

Why is the Vatican silent on Archbishop Viganò?

Last week, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò was back in the spotlight after President Donald Trump tweeted promoting an open letter that Viganò had written to him. The letter praised Mr. Trump for “defending the right to life” and expressed Archbishop Viganò’s belief in a number of conspiracy theories, including the idea of a “deep state” group undermining the American government and a parallel group within the Catholic church. Archbishop Viganò has published many such letters since his original 11-page “testimony,” published in 2018, accusing a number of top church officials of knowing about abuse by former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, blaming a “homosexual network” in the Vatican for the abuse crisis, and calling on Pope Francis to resign. The Vatican has been relatively tight-lipped in response to the archbishop: When journalists asked Pope Francis about the “testimony,” the pope refused to comment beyond saying, “Read that statement attentively and make your own judgment,” adding, “I think the statement speaks for itself, and you have a sufficient journalistic ability to make a conclusion.” Many of the archbishop’s claims have since been called into question, and the Vatican is conducting its own investigation into Mr. McCarrick. On this episode of “Inside the Vatican,” veteran Vatican reporter Gerard O’Connell and producer Colleen Dulle discuss why the Vatican has remained quiet in response to Archbishop Viganò and whether that is likely to change following President Trump’s endorsement. The hosts also discuss Pope Francis’ message for the World Day of the Poor, along with the new fund he established with the mayor of Rome and the governor of Lazio to aid workers who had not previously been eligible for government assistance. Links from the show: President Trump tweeted about Archbishop Viganò. So, who is he? Archbishop Viganò is aligning with Trump to stay in the spotlight. Pay him no attention. From 2018: Cardinal Marc Ouellet responds to Viganò charges, accuses him of blasphemy From 2018: It is time for Archbishop Viganò to meet the press Pope Francis’ message for the World Day of the Poor amid pandemic: We are all responsible Pope Francis sets up new fund for workers left out of coronavirus support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 17, 202022 min

How Laudato Si’ changed American Catholics’ minds on climate change

It’s been five years since the release of “Laudato Si’,” and Pope Francis has called for a year of prayer and study on the encyclical’s themes of integral human ecology—that is, the importance of protecting the environment and the poor, who are most directly affected by climate change and the destruction of nature. But five years out, as the church works with new resolve to implement “Laudato Si’,” it is worth asking: Did the document make a difference the first time around? On this episode of Inside the Vatican, I speak with Sam Winter-Levy and Bryan Schonfeld, two Princeton University doctoral candidates in sociology, who recently released a paper studying the impact of “Laudato Si’.” The two examined data sets from a survey of Americans’ opinions on climate change from before and after the encyclical’s release, and they found that among churchgoing Catholics, there was a significant shift towards belief that climate change is real and caused by humans, and that there is a moral imperative to take action on it. We discuss their findings, and what the results reveal about the role religious leaders like Pope Francis can have in shaping public opinion. Read more: Who can convince Americans to follow the science on coronavirus? Religious leaders. | The Washington Post Full Paper: Factual or Moral Persuasion in the United States? Evidence from the Papal Encyclical on Climate Change Website: Bryan Schonfeld Website: Sam Winter-Levy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 14, 202016 min

Pope Francis: You can’t be racist and call yourself pro-life

Pope Francis spoke out on the police killing of George Floyd last week as protests against racism spread across the globe. This week on Inside the Vatican, veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell describes the protests in Europe and the change of heart some Europeans have had about racism in their countries. Pope Francis made his position on the death of George Floyd clear as he called two American bishops to thank them for speaking out against racism. One, Bishop Mark Seitz of El Paso, had been photographed kneeling with a Black Lives Matter sign; the other was Archbishop Jose Gomez of Los Angeles, president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. On the show, Gerry and producer Colleen Dulle unpack the pope’s statement that “we cannot tolerate or turn a blind eye to racism and exclusion in any form and yet claim to defend the sacredness of every human life.” The hosts also give an update on the recent arrest of one of the two Italian real estate brokers who profited from the Vatican’s controversial London real estate deal. Gerry explains what role Gianluigi Torzi, the broker who was arrested, played in the deal and what questions remain to be answered in the Vatican’s ongoing investigation. Links from the show: Pope Francis calls U.S. bishops to offer prayers amid George Floyd protests Pope Francis on the death of George Floyd: We cannot tolerate racism and claim to defend life Vatican arrests businessman in shady London real estate deal Podcast: The Vatican’s $200 million London real estate scandal, explained Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 10, 202022 min

Pope Francis takes major step against Vatican corruption

Pope Francis took a major step in his ongoing reform of Vatican finance on June 1 by putting in place a centralized system to approve who gets contracts to work with the Vatican. The change amounts to what Crux editor John L. Allen, Jr. called a “direct frontal assault on Vatican nepotism.” This week on the Inside the Vatican podcast, America’s veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell and I explain how the former system had led to corruption and how the new system aims to stamp it out. Beginning in July, Vatican offices will have their contracts and budgets approved by a central authority, which will then oversee accepting bids from an approved group of contractors. The contractors will be vetted for ethics violations, tax evasion, and illegal activities before they are approved. Despite limiting Vatican entities to pre-approved contractors, the new system aims to increase competition for Vatican contracts and thus drive down prices—an important priority for the financially struggling institution. After that, Gerry and I discuss Pope Francis’ Pentecost messages, which focused on ensuring justice for those on the margins of society during the Covid-19 pandemic. I connect them with the ongoing protests in the United States sparked by the police killing of George Floyd, and Gerry says it is likely that the pope will comment on the unrest. Links from the show: In major reform, Pope Francis issues new regulations on awarding contracts in the Vatican In his Pentecost homily, Pope Francis asks Christians to reject narcissism and pessimism How can Catholics help lead the fight against racism? To fight racism, Catholics must hunger for justice like we do for the Eucharist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 3, 202023 min

Why the Vatican opposes Israel’s annexation plan

This week on the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, America’s Rome correspondent, Gerard O’Connell, gives an exclusive look inside the Vatican museums, which will reopen with new social distancing measures in place on Monday, June 1. Then, Gerry and producer Colleen Dulle discuss the death of the former superior general of the Jesuits, Adolfo Nicolás. Father Nicolás led the Jesuits from 2008 to 2016 and was responsible in large part for implementing the justice-oriented vision laid out by the Jesuits’ 34th General Congregation. Colleen and Gerry examine Father Nicolás’ legacy and his friendship with Pope Francis. Up next, the Vatican spoke out against a U.S.-backed proposal for Israel to annex up to 30 percent of the West Bank. On the show, Gerry explains what the Holy See, which recognizes Palestinian statehood and has diplomatic relations with both it and Israel, aims to accomplish with its recent statement. Finally, Colleen and Gerry give a few updates on Pope Francis’ recent message to Chinese Catholics, his announcement of a year of prayer and study of Laudato Si’, and plans for the pope’s Pentecost Mass. Links from the show: Former Jesuit superior general Adolfo Nicolás has died in Tokyo Watch Adolfo Nicolás’ funeral on YouTube Arturo Sosa remembers his predecessor, Adolfo Nicolás Watch: Remembering Fr. Adolfo Nicolás, S.J.: A Conversation with Fr. James Grummer, S.J. The Vatican objects to Israeli plan to annex Palestinian territory Pope Francis announces year of reflection on “Laudato Si’” and prays for Catholics in China Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 27, 202021 min

What a Mass in reopened St. Peter’s Basilica looks like

As Italy gradually reopens and public Masses resume there, the Vatican is facing the challenge of a decreased income while working to lead the world’s humanitarian and diplomatic response to the coronavirus pandemic. This week on the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell describes the scene in St. Peter’s Basilica on its first day open to the public since the start of Italy’s lockdown. Gerry and producer Colleen Dulle discuss Pope Francis’ last livestreamed daily Mass, which was celebrated on the centenary of St. John Paul II’s birth. Gerry explains how a Polish documentary on clerical sexual abuse cast a shadow on the centenary celebration, and what follow-up steps the Vatican may take to investigate. Colleen and Gerry also take a look at the Vatican’s finances in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic. Like many governments and companies around the world, the Vatican is facing a major loss in income. The Dicastery for Finance has instructed Vatican offices to build austere budgets for next year covering only what is essential—a move that could signify big changes for offices that were only required to prepare budgets for the first time a few years ago. Finally, the Vatican’s coronavirus task force has given its first update on its wide-ranging diplomatic, humanitarian and environmental work. Gerry and Colleen unpack their updates on how global hunger and migration have been impacted by the pandemic. Links from the show: Pope Francis celebrates St. John Paul II centenary: ‘God sent his people a prophet.’ Vatican faces difficult budget choices as coronavirus pandemic crushes revenue Pope Francis highlights ways for Christians to help internally displaced people Vatican task force says millions risk hunger problems during pandemic; calls for ‘creative solidarity’ to solve global problems Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 20, 202022 min

Royal Commission issues findings on Cardinal Pell

On this week’s episode of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, producer Colleen Dulle and Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell discuss the Australian Royal Commission’s findings that Cardinal George Pell knew about priests abusing children in the Ballarat diocese as early as 1973, a year after he began working in that diocese, and that Cardinal Pell was involved in transferring pedophile priests between parishes. The commission’s findings were previously released in a redacted form while Cardinal Pell’s trial and appeal process were underway. The Australian High Court overturned a lower court’s conviction of Cardinal Pell on sexual abuse charges in early April. On the podcast, Colleen and Gerry discuss what, if any, consequences may follow the Royal Commission’s findings. In this episode, the hosts also discuss changes in the Italian church as that country prepares to resume public Masses next week. Colleen details the sanitation requirements for public liturgies, and Gerry explains why Italian churchgoers may not be keen to go back to Mass quickly. Colleen and Gerry also look at Pope Francis’ surprise appointment of a Franciscan as the new archbishop of Genoa. While previous archbishops of Genoa could count on being named cardinals, Gerry believes Pope Francis is unlikely to give the new archbishop a red hat while Italians are over-represented in the College of Cardinals. Links from the show: Inquiry: Pell knew of abuse by Australian pedophile priest Italy will soon allow public Masses—with conditions Pope Francis, in surprise appointment, chooses a Franciscan as archbishop of Genoa, Italy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 13, 202022 min

The Vatican’s $200m London real estate scandal

Last week, an Italian newspaper reported that Pope Francis had fired five employees who were under investigation for their involvement in the $200 million purchase of minority stake in a luxury apartment development in London’s upscale Chelsea neighborhood. After the Vatican’s Secretariat of State lost money on the investment, the Vatican’s middleman, Italian businessman Raffaele Mincione, advised the Vatican to buy the remainder of the property, which he owned. The Vatican’s judicial system is now investigating staffers who were involved in the deal for possible financial improprieties. Last year, Vatican police raided several offices in the Secretariat of State and the Vatican’s financial watchdog office and suspended the staff members. America’s Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell reported this week that the situation of the five employees was more complex than the premature, unjust firings the Italian newspaper had made them out to be. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and producer Colleen Dulle explain the background of the London deal, what happened to the five employees, and what questions still remain. Links from the show: Has Pope Francis dismissed five Vatican employees linked to a property deal in London? Vatican employees suspended as finance investigation continues Vatican police raid Secretariat of State and finance watchdog offices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 9, 202014 min

World Day of Prayer for end to Covid-19

In this episode, Vatican correspondent Gerard O'Connell gives an on-the-ground update from “phase two” of Italy’s coronavirus lockdown. Gerry and producer Colleen Dulle also discuss the interreligious day of prayer between Muslims and Christians for an end to coronavirus, along with Pope Francis’ call for nations and corporations to share any eventual Covid-19 vaccine. That call was the latest in a string of requests from the Vatican for greater multilateralism, which former Italian prime minister Enrico Letta recently discussed in an interview with Gerry. Next up, a newly-published interview with Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI grabbed headlines this weekend that focused on the former pope’s comments linking abortion and gay marriage to the “Antichrist.” That interview was part of a new 1,000-page biography of the pope emeritus by Peter Seewald, released in German on Monday and slated to be published in English in November. Colleen and Gerry take a look at the interview beyond the media spin: The two discuss Pope Benedict XVI’s historical connections to some of the topics he addressed, and Gerry highlights what’s new in the excerpts he has seen thus far, including the emeritus pope’s revelation that he has written a “testament” to be published after his death. Links from the show: Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI sees church threatened by pseudo-humanism Pope Francis joins Muslim leaders in calling for world day of prayer to end the coronavirus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 6, 202024 min

Christopher Lamb on ‘guerilla attacks’ on Pope Francis

It’s no secret that Pope Francis has faced opposition during his pontificate: some of it, the healthy disagreement he’s called for, some more serious—what The Tablet Vatican reporter Christopher Lamb calls well-financed, well-publicized “guerilla attacks” on the pope. Chris outlines more than one hundred instances of such highly-publicized attacks on Francis in his new book The Outsider: Pope Francis and His Battle to Reform the Church. He joins “Inside the Vatican” host Colleen Dulle to discuss the criticism the pope has received from across the church-political spectrum, and what distinguishes healthy disagreement from the attacks that Pope Francis called backstabbing. The two also put the attacks on Pope Francis in context: Is it fair to say that attacks on Francis’ papacy are unprecedented when, for example, there were three rival popes during the Western Schism? What role has money played in these attacks, and what is their end goal? Colleen and Chris unpack the connections between the pope’s wealthy critics and the media outlets that have magnified their voices. They discuss, too, the places the pope has fallen short, and why Chris believes that, despite his mistakes, the pope is still “a man of integrity.” Link from the show: The Outsider: Pope Francis and His Battle to Reform the Church Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 2, 202020 min

Pope Francis speaks on clash between Italian bishops and government

Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte has announced that Italy will transition into “phase 2” of its coronavirus lockdown, re-opening the manufacturing and construction industries on May 4, followed by libraries, museums, and some stores May 18. Not included in the re-openings were churches, causing outcry from the Italian bishops, who demanded a plan to resume public Masses. On this episode of “Inside the Vatican,” America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell explains what negotiations are happening between the bishops and the Italian government. At his daily Mass on Tuesday, April 28, Pope Francis seemed to respond to the situation, praying, “In this time, during which we are beginning to have the possibility to come out of quarantine, let us pray that the Lord will give his people the grace of prudence and obedience to the instructions so the pandemic will not return.” The pope has had his eye on the coronavirus response outside Italy as well, speaking with French president Emmanuel Macron two days before a major meeting of European Union leaders to discuss the E.U.’s response to the pandemic. On the show, Colleen and Gerry discuss Francis’ call with Macron along with his other priorities for the multilateral meeting, and the hosts give an update on what decisions came out of the meeting. Pope Francis has also called the world’s Catholics to pray the rosary in the month of May for an end to the coronavirus pandemic. Gerry and Colleen take a look at the two new prayers the pope penned to accompany the Rosary and discuss Pope Francis’ spiritual leadership throughout the crisis. Links from the show: Italian bishops demand plan for resuming public Masses Pope Francis speaks with French President Macron about coronavirus, international debt relief Read: Pope Francis’ rosary prayers in the midst of coronavirus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 29, 202021 min

Vatican's Archbishop Paglia on coronavirus bioethics

In recent weeks, the Vatican has made it clear that it sees the coronavirus pandemic as a pressing call for the transformation of society. This past week, Pope Francis put together a task force with specific mandates for coordinating humanitarian aid, international relations, and the protection of the environment, all at the service of a broader vision of human solidarity in a time of pandemic. That vision was laid out on March 30 in a note entitled “Global Pandemic and Universal Brotherhood,” issued by the Pontifical Academy for Life, which focuses on moral theology and bioethics. In this episode of “Inside the Vatican,” the president of that academy, Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, speaks to producer Colleen Dulle about that document and some of the specifics of the Vatican’s vision for a new human solidarity arising from this pandemic. In the interview, Archbishop Paglia describes the theological and health considerations that have factored into the decisions to cancel public Masses while keeping churches open: “Precisely because of the principle of incarnation, which is at the heart of our faith, we must take seriously the concrete concerns to which our body is subject,” the archbishop said. He also speaks in depth about the need that Vatican leadership has expressed for a globally coordinated health care network which would ensure care for the most vulnerable people. Speaking about how decisions about rationing care when resources are scarce, Archbishop Paglia said, “the choice is not about the dignity of the person or the value of his or her life, which is equal and priceless for all, but on the treatment: priority must be given to those who—when needs are equal— are expected to benefit the most.” Links from the show: Read “Global Pandemic and Universal Brotherhood” Find America Magazine’s full coronavirus coverage here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 25, 202012 min

Pope Francis assembles COVID-19 task force

Pope Francis has focused his messages to the world this week on the importance of international cooperation and the sharing of resources in order to overcome the coronavirus pandemic and build a more equitable society. On this episode of “Inside the Vatican,” America’s Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell and producer Colleen Dulle discuss the vision Pope Francis laid out in his new “plan for rising up again.” Then, the hosts talk about the task force the pope has assembled to actualize this vision. He appointed to its steering committee an Argentinian priest who is an expert in economics and has experience working with the Vatican on environmental issues and with church humanitarian organizations in areas affected by epidemics. Gerry explains Father Augusto Zampini’s connections to the pope and the work he will be doing in this key decision-making role. One aspect of the task force’s work will be finding new ways for the Vatican to raise money to cover its operating expenses and provide aid to other nations. On the show, Gerry breaks down where the Vatican’s money comes from and how those sources are quickly drying up. The hosts also cover a slew of meeting and conference cancellations at the Vatican. Links from the show: On Divine Mercy Sunday, Pope Francis urges countries to put aside ‘selfish indifference’ during coronavirus pandemic Pope Francis shares his vision for Covid-19 aftermath Pope Francis taps Argentinian priest to help lead Vatican response to coronavirus crisis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 22, 202028 min

How data mapping can help the Vatican fight COVID-19

Molly Burhans, the founder and executive director of GoodLands, has created what may be the world’s largest set of Catholic geographic information. Her nonprofit organization has mapped church-owned properties around the world with a view towards using the church’s resources more responsibly. This work has taken on an increased importance during the coronavirus pandemic: As she explains on “Inside the Vatican,” knowing the location of church hospitals in relation to, for example, low-income communities, potable water, and other health programs can help the church to use its resources more efficiently to extend care to the largest number of people. Molly speaks with producer Colleen Dulle about her recent work consulting with the Vatican’s Dicastery for Promoting Integral Development on its new document about water, sanitation, and hygiene. The two discuss the links between ecology and the coronavirus pandemic, and Molly makes the case for environmental programs as a necessary part of Catholic healthcare. Links from the show: Aqua Fons Vitae Explore GoodLands’ Catholic GeoHub Listen to Molly Burhans on America’s “Jesuitical” podcast Can high-tech maps help the church and save the planet? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 18, 202020 min

Pope Francis supports ‘universal basic wage’

In his Easter messages, Pope Francis came out in support of a universal basic wage, relaxing economic sanctions, and forgiving the debts of poor countries. This week on the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, veteran Vatican reporter Gerard O’Connell joins producer Colleen Dulle to talk about these policies and to look back at the response to St. John Paul II’s call for debt forgiveness in 2000. Colleen and Gerry also take a look at the new commission to study women deacons, which they reported on in print last week. The new commission features no members of the first commission to study women deacons and instead includes more obscure scholars. On the show, the hosts take a look at how these commission members are chosen. Finally, Pope Francis gave his first interview to the English-language media last week. Gerry and Colleen review their takeaways from the interview. America Media will celebrate its 111th anniversary Friday. Please consider supporting our journalism at the intersection of the church and the world by making a donation here. Links from the show: In Easter message, Pope Francis proposes ‘universal basic wage’ In Easter ‘Urbi et Orbi’ address, Pope Francis calls for an end to indifference Pope Francis has set up a new commission to study women deacons Pope Francis on Living with COVID-19 Support America Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 15, 202023 min

Vatican official–Archbishop Arthur Roche–on liturgies during COVID-19

Usually, Holy Week doesn’t require any extra work from the Vatican’s Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. A separate office organizes the pope’s liturgies, and the guidelines used around the world stay the same from year to year. This year, though, with coronavirus bringing the widespread suspension of public Masses, several needs arose that only the Congregation for Divine Worship could respond to: The congregation worked quickly to establish the new Mass in Time of Pandemic, as well as a special intention for the Good Friday liturgy and guidelines for celebrating the Holy Week liturgies without a congregation physically present. “In this moment of trial, the challenge is to stop the contagion without stopping the prayer,” said Archbishop Arthur Roche, secretary of the congregation. Archbishop Roche joins “Inside the Vatican” host Colleen Dulle for a special Holy Week interview on the Vatican’s response to rapidly changing liturgical needs around the world and his advice for celebrating Holy Week at home. “Our Catholics are as creative as our priests are, and they won’t let this time pass without celebrating what is the certainty of their faith,” the archbishop said. “In other words, what the Lord has achieved, what he has given to us through his suffering and death on the cross and his resurrection. They’ll celebrate it, I feel quite sure, with deep joy, knowing that we’re safe with the Lord who is with us in our anxiety and in our suffering, because he knew what that was personally.” Links from the show: Pope Francis approves new ‘Mass in Time of Pandemic’ and Good Friday coronavirus intention On Holy Thursday, Pope Francis counsels world’s priests: ‘Take risks for forgiveness’ Pope Francis oversees an emotional Way of the Cross in empty square Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 11, 202019 min

Update: Pope Francis gives English media interview

Pope Francis has given his first interview to the English-language media, which he was invited to give as a message to the anglophone world in this time of crisis. Host Colleen Dulle gives an update on what you can find in the interview, and on the new commission to study women deacons that the Vatican announced today. Links from the show: ‘A Time of Great Uncertainty’: An Interview with Pope Francis Pope Francis has set up a new commission to study women deacons Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 8, 20201 min

Cardinal Pell’s conviction was overturned. Now what?

After almost five years of hearings and trials and appeals, Cardinal George Pell’s conviction of child sexual abuse was overturned April 6 with a unanimous decision from Australia’s highest court. Cardinal Pell has now left prison and will stay at a Carmelite monastery. Now that a final judicial decision has been made in the Australian legal system, the Vatican will need to revisit the canonical investigation it had previously opened into historical complaints against Cardinal Pell, which had been paused until the appeals were complete. On this episode of “Inside the Vatican,” producer Colleen Dulle and Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell discuss whether that investigation should continue, after Gerry’s sources in Rome revealed that it may not. Colleen and Gerry also look at a number of financial incentives that came out of the Vatican this week in response to the coronavirus pandemic. Pope Francis has earmarked $750,000 to support the work of church organizations in remote parts of Africa, Asia, Oceania and Amazonia where the church is a vital provider of social services. With approval from the pope, papal almoner Cardinal Konrad Krajewski has also made an unprecedented request of the Roman curia to donate money for coronavirus relief. “The Pope is saying, you know, we all have to put our hands in our pockets and bring out the wallets and put them on the table,” Gerry said. “These people are dying. These people are suffering. These people have got no help.” The hosts also talk briefly about Pope Francis’ similar Palm Sunday message, imploring young people to give their lives in service to others. Links from the show: Australia’s high court overturns guilty verdict against Cardinal George Pell on final appeal Vatican responds with measure to Cardinal Pell’s acquittal and release from prison Pope Francis establishes emergency fund to combat Covid-19 in mission countries Papal almoner issues extraordinary appeal to Vatican churchmen for coronavirus offering A Palm Sunday message from Pope Francis: Do not be afraid; you are not alone Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 8, 202023 min

Pope Francis approves new coronavirus Mass prayers

As the coronavirus pandemic rages on, the Vatican is looking both to provide for people’s spiritual needs and to ensure justice for those on the margins of society. In this episode of “Inside the Vatican,” veteran Vatican correspondent Gerard O’Connell and producer Colleen Dulle give an update on two new cases of coronavirus in the Vatican. Then, they turn to the Vatican’s response, beginning with the new prayers Pope Francis authorized this week. The pope approved a special intention to be added to the Good Friday liturgy, a measure that was expected as part of the Vatican’s guidelines for celebrating Holy Week liturgies without the presence of the faithful, and he authorized a new set of prayers for “Mass in the Time of Pandemic.” Both texts pray for the sick, the dead, and mourners, as well as their caretakers and world leaders. Up next, Father Arturo Sosa, Superior General of the Jesuits, held a webinar for 1,000 Jesuits and lay people this week urging them to discern how the world’s injustices have come to the fore during this pandemic and how each of them may be called to respond. “Listening to the Spirit, trusting in God and allowing ourselves to be guided by him does not exempt us from the effort to understand in depth the causes of this crisis, its consequences and the ways to make it an occasion to advance towards a more just and humane world,” Father Sosa said. One way the Vatican is working to advance justice is through a new document released this week on the just use of water. Christiana Zenner, a Fordham University theologian and author of the book Just Water: Theology, Ethics, and Fresh Water Crises joins Colleen Dulle to discuss the document’s important points. Links from the show: Pope Francis approves new ‘Mass in Time of Pandemic’ and Good Friday coronavirus intention Father Arturo Sosa: ‘Covid-19 reminds us that we are one humanity.’ Read: Aqua Fons Vitae: Orientations on Water, symbol of the cry of the poor and the cry of the Earth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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