In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

Andy breaks the news about a new nationwide digital vaccine verification initiative to be formally announced next week. Andy talks with the system's architect, Paul Meyer, and California's Chief Technology Innovation Officer, Rick Klau. They discuss why the federal government isn't creating its own verification system, how Californians have responded to the state's Digital Vaccine Record, and where you can get a digital record of your COVID-19 vaccine status right now. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Rick @rklau and Paul @paulmeyernyc on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about the SMART Health Cards Global Forum on October 28: https://events.zoom.us/ev/ANEak-EndgU6srtMF5CNSahdECUM5qwpkv1uC6ic-qo3OXjjxlb4j5Bt8Zjgahjp_Ti2Tn4 Check out the CommonPass: https://commonpass.org/ Here’s more on the slipping poll numbers for governors who attack vaccine mandates: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/17/governors-covid-vaccine-mandates-approval-516112 Read more about the plan to let fully vaccinated travelers back into the US starting November 8: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/politics/us-border-travel-restrictions-november-8/index.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Testing remains one of the most confusing elements of the pandemic for many people. In this Toolkit, Andy talks to diagnostics expert Mara Aspinall and immunologist Gigi Gronvall to answer your questions about rapid antigen tests – when people should get tested, how accurate they are, why they're in short supply, and much more. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Mara @MaraAspinall and Gigi @ggronvall on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out the CDC’s Interim Guidance for Antigen Testing for SARS-CoV-2: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/resources/antigen-tests-guidelines.html Read Gigi’s Clinical Chemistry article titled “COVID-19 Testing and a Path out of the Pandemic”: https://academic.oup.com/clinchem/advance-article/doi/10.1093/clinchem/hvab226/6382305?guestAccessKey=42b74d06-49a8-4972-9183-7583cd3edbc1 Watch a video of how to take an at-home test, as Gigi suggests, before administering one on yourself: https://www.webmd.com/coronavirus-in-context/video/covid-home-testing Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy catches up with the aptly-named Dr. Larry Brilliant, who has spent his life working to eradicate deadly diseases. They discuss why eradication of COVID is not possible, what a long-term COVID plan should include, what future variants may look like, and what vaccine innovations he wants to see and why. Plus, how Delta is similar to the fictional virus Larry helped dream up for the movie Contagion. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Larry @larrybrilliant on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Here’s more on Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s ban on virtually all vaccine mandates: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/us/texas-governor-covid-vaccine-mandates.html Read the article Larry co-wrote called “The Forever Virus”: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2021-06-08/coronavirus-strategy-forever-virus Larry advised Seth MacFarlane on the science for this Family Guy vaccine PSA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ0NgeMHOyQ Check out the PBS series Larry mentions called “Extra Life”: https://www.pbs.org/show/extra-life-short-history-living-longer/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Eighteen months into this pandemic, we all still have lots of questions. Luckily, we can turn to our own Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick for some answers. She covers the timing of your flu shot and booster shot (and shingles shot if you're over 50), if you should mix vaccine brands, if variants can evade tests, and even how to approach the holidays with unvaccinated family members. And don't forget, if you have more questions for Andy or Dr. Lisa, you can always send an email to [email protected]. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Dr. Lisa @askdrfitz on Twitter and Instagram. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read more from the CDC about getting a flu shot during the pandemic: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-flu-season-2021-2022.htm#Getting-a-Flu-Vaccine-During-the-COVID-19-Pandemic Learn more about what the data say about SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in breast milk post-vaccination: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01680-x Check out Survivor Corps, a support network for COVID-19 survivors: ​​https://www.survivorcorps.com/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy calls up Dr. Ashish Jha, Dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, who wants to remind everyone that just like the stock market is not the economy, the daily case count is not the pandemic. They discuss the danger of covering COVID like a political horse race, why he appears on Newsmax so frequently, and how he deals with COVID skeptics in his own extended family. Plus, a cold open featuring Ashish’s take on Merck’s antiviral pill. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Ashish @ashishkjha on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Watch Ashish discuss Merck’s new antiviral pill on World News Tonight: https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/1444097297323859971 Check out Ashish’s latest appearance on Newsmax: https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/dr-jha-covid-vaccine-mandates/2021/10/04/id/1039009/# Read Ashish’s optimistic January 2020 Health Affairs article predicting the US response to COVID: https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20200131.369043/full/ Listen to Andy’s appearance on The Hugh Hewitt Show: https://hughhewitt.com/video/wh-covid-response-teams-andy-slavitt-and-hoovers-lanhee-chen-on-vaccine-rollout-variant-risk/ Check out this picture of Ashish’s Fourth of July barbecue: https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1411832517049655302 Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy calls up Dr. Céline Gounder, who just wrapped up a two-week rotation at Bellevue Hospital in New York City. They discuss her current COVID patient load compared to a year ago, the city's new vaccine requirements, and her honest assessment of the Biden administration's COVID record. Plus, why trust is so important when we ask people to do things like getting vaccinated for the common good. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Céline @celinegounder on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about Céline on her website: https://www.celinegounder.com/ Read more about the Key to NYC program: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-vaccines-keytonyc.page Here’s the latest about the altercation at a NYC restaurant: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/nyregion/carmines-vaccination-fight.html Read more about how the vaccine mandate for employers with more than 100 workers is working: https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-business-new-york-health-831b555fad96822e1a6840286d73c78e Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As booster shots roll out across the country, Andy calls up Katherine Wu, who got a Ph.D. in microbiology and immunology before joining the stellar science writing staff at The Atlantic. They discuss what we know about how the boosters will work, what to expect during our upcoming second pandemic winter, and what the future of COVID looks like. Plus, how Katherine approaches effectively communicating about science in real time. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Katherine @KatherineJWu on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Watch President Biden get his booster shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=188toSUMRNk Read all of Katherine’s articles in The Atlantic, including the one she co-wrote with Ed Yong about winter: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/katherine-j-wu/ Here’s the CDC statement on ACIP booster recommendations: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0924-booster-recommendations-.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy talks with Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent, about his 20 years in cable news, what motivates people to peddle misinformation online, and how we can let go of some of the anger, resentment, and trauma from the past 18 months. Whether he's talking to millions of people on TV or one AC repair person in his home, Sanjay rejects the approach of many of his TV counterparts and leads with honesty, empathy, and respect. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Sanjay @drsanjaygupta on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out Sanjay’s new book, World War C, here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/World-War-C/Sanjay-Gupta/9781982166106 Watch a preview of Sanjay’s documentary, The Truth About Vaccines, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufXBL9CCtvs&t=134s Here’s the Politico story that came out after Andy’s appearance on Fox News: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/11/slavitt-trump-operation-warp-speed-475310 Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy clears up a lot of the confusion surrounding boosters on this must-listen Toolkit with Dr. David Agus and Tom Moriarty of CVS Health. From who can get one to why we need them and where they'll be available, this Toolkit is chock-full of all the latest information on COVID-19 booster shots. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow David @DavidAgus and CVS Health @CVSHealth on Twitter.. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out CVS Health’s COVID-19 resource center: https://cvshealth.com/covid-19 Here’s more on what to expect next from the FDA on boosters: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/science/covid-booster-FDA.html Johnson & Johnson says a second shot of their vaccine boosts protection against symptomatic and severe COVID-19: https://apnews.com/article/johnson-and-johnson-covid-booster-4f86b7f00d354c289af17503eeb50824 Read The New York Times story about Andy and Facebook: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/10/technology/facebook-vaccine-misinformation.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As we await the FDA’s final decision on booster shots, Andy talks with the person tasked with making the final determination: Acting FDA Commissioner Dr. Janet Woodcock. Only on In the Bubble will you get a chance to hear how she’s approaching this decision, how close we are to vaccines for kids under 12, and more from the person in charge at the Food and Drug Administration. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Dr. Woodcock @DrWoodcockFDA on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read more about the FDA advisory panel’s decision to recommend boosters for people over 65 and others at high risk: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/fda-pfizer-booster-covid.html Check out the latest FDA info about COVID-19: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/counterterrorism-and-emerging-threats/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19 Here is The Lancet article written by two departing FDA regulators who oppose boosters: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02046-8/fulltext Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy gets back to basics with Pulitzer Prize-winning science journalist Laurie Garrett. They get into how and why viruses mutate, why the variants don't seem to be causing too much trouble for the mRNA vaccines, and how our actions are, as Laurie puts it, "aiding and abetting" COVID. Plus, her big takeaways for how a little empathy at home and in our systemic approach can change the trajectory of the pandemic. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Laurie @Laurie_Garrett on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about Laurie: https://www.lauriegarrett.com/ Read more on the hunt for a “universal” COVID-19 vaccine: https://fortune.com/2021/08/18/universal-covid-vaccine-delta-variant-gritstone-cepi/ Check out the status of coronavirus vaccinations around the world: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html Learn more about Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance: https://www.gavi.org/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy calls up The Atlantic's Ed Yong, who won the 2021 Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of the pandemic, to talk about how we got where we are now and where we need to go next. They cover what went wrong up to this point, why we can't think of vaccines as a panacea, and what Ed thinks about giving people in the US booster shots before many people around the world get their first dose. Plus, Andy weighs in on President Biden’s vaccinate-or-test requirements. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Ed @edyong209 on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Watch President Biden’s remarks on his plan to stop the Delta variant and boost COVID-19 vaccinations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB1Awuu_DGc Check out Andy on 60 Minutes Australia: https://youtu.be/_q_jyJrA8H8 Read all of Ed’s writing in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/ed-yong/ The Atlantic has compiled all their COVID-19 coverage, including the pieces Ed mentions in today’s episode, here: https://www.theatlantic.com/projects/our-essential-coronavirus-coverage/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy and Dr. Fauci cover all the latest questions you have, including boosters, variants beyond Delta, breakthrough infections, and vaccinating the globe. Plus, what Dr. Fauci and the Biden administration are doing to prepare for the next pandemic. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read the preprint of the Israeli study of booster shots that Dr. Fauci mentions in today’s episode: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.27.21262679v1 Check out the preprint of the Mayo Clinic study comparing the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.21261707v3 Learn more about what the WHO has to say about “variants of interest” like Lambda and Mu: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/07/mu-covid-variant-who-says-delta-remains-most-concerning.html Here’s more on the status of oral antiviral trials at both Pfizer and Merck: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-starts-dosing-patients-oral-covid-19-drug-trial-2021-09-01/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Revisit this episode from June, where Andy starts by answering the one question no one else will about the Delta variant. Then, journalist Jessica Yellin joins Andy to discuss his new book Preventable. They talk about key figures like President Trump, Jared Kushner, and Dr. Deborah Birx, what lessons we need to take with us from the pandemic, and why we should feel hopeful now. Plus, you’ll hear some of the most riveting clips from the book read by actor Bradley Whitford. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Find Jessica Yellin on Twitter and Instagram @JessicaYellin. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Watch Jessica break down the biggest news stories of the day with News Not Noise: https://newsnotnoise.com/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy goes to Florida — ground zero in the battle over how to respond to COVID — to hear directly from kids and what they have to say about the pandemic. Two young people have been working to make adults hear their voices: 21-year-old David Hogg and 14-year-old Alana Nesser, both of Parkland, Florida. In 2018, adults failed to keep David and his classmates at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School safe when one of the worst school shootings in history occurred. A few short years later, Alana and her friends have again been left vulnerable by adults in the debate over masks. Hear what kids are saying to one another about trauma, and about what we as adults can do to understand and help. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow David @davidhogg111 and Alana @AMNesser on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read Alana’s column in the Orlando Sentinel advocating for masking in schools: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/guest-commentary/os-op-schools-masks-keep-politics-out-20210811-tl2qby2b3bgybivv2boe26ylji-story.html Here’s the latest on the battle over mask mandates in Florida schools: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article253866718.html This article from The New York Times digs into what went wrong with COVID in Florida: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/us/florida-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccines-variant.html Learn more about March For Our Lives: https://marchforourlives.com/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With 180,000 reported COVID cases in kids last week alone, and school just getting started, Andy has a vital conversation with pediatric infectious disease specialist Dr. David Kimberlin about how the Delta variant has changed everything we thought we knew about children and COVID. They cover what David's seeing on the ground in his hospital in Birmingham, the latest on vaccines for kids under 12, and how to think about the incredibly complicated issue of in-person school. Plus, what parents can do to get school districts to re-think opposition to mask requirements. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read David’s opinion piece in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution about the Delta varint and kids: https://www.ajc.com/opinion/opinion-delta-covid-variant-scares-this-pediatrician/G5T6QAKPCBBMVADBS4SKEVHHJ4/ The American Academy of Pediatrics tracks COVID cases in kids here: https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/ Learn more about what the CDC has to say about MIS-C associated with COVID-19 in children: https://www.cdc.gov/mis/mis-c.html Check out the study in Science that David mentioned about household COVID-19 risk and in-person schooling: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6546/1092 Listen to NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins discuss the timeline for a vaccine for kids under 12 on NPR: https://www.npr.org/sections/back-to-school-live-updates/2021/08/24/1030611406/a-vaccine-for-young-children-is-not-likely-until-the-end-of-year-nih-director-sa Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen in as Andy gets a Global Pandemic 101 course from Dr. Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust. Farrar gives a clear picture of the effort and urgency of vaccinating the globe, the vital role of the US on the world stage, and the criticality of the next 270 days. Plus, hear their plans to force the issue with world leaders. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Jeremy on Twitter @JeremyFarrar. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Here’s the latest CDC data on vaccine effectiveness pre- and post-Delta: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e4.htm?s_cid=mm7034e4_w Learn more about the Access to COVID-19 Tools (ACT) Accelerator: https://www.who.int/initiatives/act-accelerator Keep up with everything the Wellcome Trust is doing to fight COVID-19 globally: https://wellcome.org/ Check out Jeremy’s Financial Times article about the long-term societal impacts of COVID-19: https://www.ft.com/content/031b42a7-e2b3-43ae-9139-d31a4cb37498 Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy and former FDA commissioner Dr. Mark McClellan detail the next big moves in the COVID battle including FDA approvals, what’s happening with clinical trials for kids, boosters, mandates, and what the adverse reporting system really says about vaccine safety. Plus, they discuss the #COVIDSafeZones initiative launched with 30 other public officials. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read Kayla Chadwick’s article that Andy mentions in today’s episode: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/i-dont-know-how-to-explain-to-you-that-you-should_b_59519811e4b0f078efd98440 Learn more about the plan for COVID-19 booster shots: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0818-covid-19-booster-shots.html Here’s the website for the COVID Collaborative: https://www.covidcollaborative.us/ Read what Andy, Mark, and John Bridgeland wrote about #COVIDSafeZones in Yahoo! News: https://news.yahoo.com/former-government-officials-issue-national-142600426.html PoltiFact debunked a viral TikTok video that claimed VAERS data showed 6,000 deaths from the COVID-19 vaccine: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/09/tiktok-posts/no-truth-vaers-system-shows-6000-died-because-covi/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

So you’ve been vaccinated. And now you’re hearing that you could get infected? Or be contagious? Andy gets to the bottom of this when he calls up one of the clearest explainers he knows, Johns Hopkins epidemiologist Jennifer Nuzzo. They discuss why although you may get infected with SARS-CoV-2 eventually, vaccinated people are still unlikely to get COVID-19, and what that means. Plus, Andy breaks down the new recommendation about boosters. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Jennifer @JenniferNuzzo on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read more about the new recommendation that all Americans get booster shots 8 months after their second dose: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/u-s-announces-plan-offer-boosters-all-americans-starting-late-n1277059?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma The New York Times has compiled data on breakthrough infections leading to hospitalizations and deaths for 40 states and Washington, D.C. here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-infections-vaccines.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One mom rages against COVID with Andy this week: Survivor Corps founder Diana Berrent. Diana is a fierce advocate for those with remaining COVID symptoms and she has taken a number of amazing actions on behalf of them. This episode will grip you, speak to your heart, steel your spine, and give you some brand new information on some undiscovered questions about how COVID-19 works in our bodies. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Diana @DianaBerrent and Survivor Corps @Survivor_Corps on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about Survivor Corps: https://www.survivorcorps.com/ Read about Dr. Akiko Iwasaki’s study of the vaccines’ effects on COVID long haulers: https://news.yale.edu/2021/05/10/study-probes-vaccines-effects-people-long-covid Check out this update on 12-year-old Addison Adams: https://www.weau.com/2021/08/12/girl-12-slowly-sees-relief-after-battling-10-months-long-hauler-covid-19-symptoms/ Here’s the NIH’s announcement of the initiative to study long COVID: https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/nih-launches-new-initiative-study-long-covid Read the paper that Survivor Corps and Dr. Harland Krumholz published about breakthrough cases and long COVID: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.23.21261030v1 Learn more about monoclonal antibody therapies: www.gotcovid.org Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy poses your top questions about sending kids back to school to pediatrician and vaccinologist Peter Hotez and indoor air quality expert Richard Corsi. They’ve got you covered on how Delta affects kids' risk of infection, wearing masks, staying safe while eating lunch, and much, much more. Plus, Lisa talks with parents, kids, and school leaders in Missouri as schools open up for another year. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Dr. Lisa is on Twitter @askdrfitz. Follow Peter Hotez @PeterHotez and Richard Corsi @CorsIAQ on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read Peter’s paper on how to avoid a COVID-19 catastrophe in Southern schools: https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-to-avert-covid-19-catastrophe-in-southern-schools Here’s Rich demonstrating the cold mirror test to determine air leakage from masks: https://twitter.com/CorsIAQ/status/1422433693117779977 Check out Rich’s website: https://www.corsiaq.com And Peter’s: https://peterhotez.org/ Keep up with the latest CDC guidance for COVID-19 prevention in K-12 schools: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As vaccine distribution continues to ramp up around the country, Andy calls up Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear to understand how it’s all working on the ground in a state like Kentucky. Listeners have a chance to get “in the bubble” with Andy and Governor Beshear to hear their candid conversation about leading through this challenging moment, as well as how best to support communities as we work together to end the pandemic. Dr. Lisa is joined by Cara McNulty of Aetna and CVSHealth to talk tactics for reaching people in communities for their health care needs. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Dr. Lisa is on Twitter @askdrfitz. Follow Governor Beshear on Twitter @GovAndyBeshear. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about the NFL’s COVID protocols for the 2021 season: https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nfl-covid-rules-could-mean-forfeits-fines-unvaccinated-outbreaks Read about Kentucky’s “1-2-3 No Cost to Me” campaign to get more people of color enrolled in health coverage: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/elections/kentucky/2020/08/11/state-launches-effort-get-health-coverage-black-hispanic-folks/3343542001/ Learn more about CVS HealthHUBs: https://www.cvs.com/content/health-hub Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy and renowned epidemiologist Michael Osterholm discuss how Delta is upending the pandemic landscape. They cover when the wave may end, what Michael thinks we should do about kids and schools, and how it's caused him to rethink his own interactions with his unvaccinated grandchildren. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Michael Osterholm on Twitter @mtosterholm. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read Andy's letter with the COVID Collaborative calling on the private sector to encourage vaccinations: https://www.covidcollaborative.us/covidsafezones#letter-covidsafezones Learn more about the Key to NYC Pass: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/nyregion/nyc-vaccine-mandate.html Check out the chart Michael showed Andy during this episode: https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/07/how-uk-s-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-has-dramatically-reduced-deaths Here’s a New England Journal of Medicine article that looks at the effectiveness of the vaccines against the Delta variant in the UK: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891 Read more about the breakthrough infections in gold miners that Michael mentioned in today’s episode: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/10/21-1427_article Learn more about the CDC’s guidance for COVID-19 prevention in K-12 schools: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html NBC News is keeping track of companies that are mandating COVID-19 vaccines for all or some employees: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/here-are-companies-mandating-vaccines-all-or-some-employees-n1275808 Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy continues his conversation with Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, and today they discuss vaccines for kids under 12, when Pfizer expects to receive full FDA approval, vaccinating the rest of the world, and more. Plus, hear Albert's recollection of the day he learned that the Pfizer vaccine trials showed 95.6% efficacy. If you missed Part 1, make sure to go back and listen from the beginning. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Albert Bourla on Twitter @AlbertBourla. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read more about federal regulators asking Pfizer and Moderna to expand the size of their vaccine trials in kids ages 5-11: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/26/fda-asks-pfizer-moderna-test-their-vaccines-more-children-under-12-help-rule-out-safety-issues/ Here’s the latest from the FDA on the approval process for COVID-19 vaccines: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/politics/fda-vaccine-full-approval-fast-as-possible/index.html Keep up to date on the global vaccine picture: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy gets answers to listeners’ most important questions from Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla in Part 1 of a two-part interview, including how the Pfizer vaccine is holding up against the Delta variant, if we'll need booster shots, the data out of Israel showing waning immunity after six months, if Albert is wearing a mask indoors again, and more. Bourla is back next week to talk about kids under 12, full FDA approval, and vaccinating the globe. Plus, Andy reacts to the new CDC recommendation regarding indoor masking for some vaccinated people. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Albert Bourla on Twitter @AlbertBourla. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out the CDC’s latest guidance for fully vaccinated people : https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html Learn more about the Israeli data suggesting waning effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/23/science/covid-vaccine-israel-pfizer.html Read more about Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine efforts: https://www.pfizer.com/science/coronavirus/vaccine-efforts Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy calls up physician, scientist, and author Eric Topol for a can't-miss, in-depth conversation on the Delta variant. Andy and Eric cover why it's taking over, what vaccinated people should be thinking, and whether there's more variants like it to come. They also discuss the latest vaccine data out of Israel and why the FDA hasn’t fully approved the COVID vaccines yet. Plus, a sneak peek at Andy’s interview with Pfizer CEO Dr. Albert Bourla. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Eric Topol on Twitter @EricTopol. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read Eric’s guest essay in The New York Times calling on the FDA to fully approve the mRNA COVID vaccines: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/opinion/fda-vaccines-full-approval.html Check out this New England Journal of Medicine article that Eric mentioned about the effectiveness of vaccines against the Delta variant in the UK: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891 Learn more about the study Eric mentioned out of China that explains why the Delta variant is spreading so quickly: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/1019130146/delta-variant-grows-rapidly-inside-a-persons-respiratory-tract-study-says Here’s an article about what Israel’s ministry of health says about how the Pfizer vaccine is holding up to the Delta variant: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-23/pfizer-shot-just-39-effective-in-halting-delta-israel-says Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy talks with Nick Clegg, Facebook's Vice President of Global Affairs, about one of the most important issues out there: Facebook, social media, COVID-19 and misinformation. After President Biden said Facebook is "killing people" with COVID misinformation, Andy and Nick discuss what Facebook says its obligation is with regard to misinformation, what they're doing to combat it, and whether it’s enough. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Nick Clegg on Twitter @nickclegg. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Here’s the latest on President Biden’s Facebook comments: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/19/biden-facebook-vaccine-misinformation-500148 Read Facebook’s response to the President’s initial comments: https://about.fb.com/news/2021/07/support-for-covid-19-vaccines-is-high-on-facebook-and-growing/ Check out this post from Nick about what Facebook is doing to combat COVID-19 misinformation: https://about.fb.com/news/2020/03/combating-covid-19-misinformation/ Read about Nick’s role in banning President Trump from Facebook: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/technology/facebook-trump-nick-clegg.html Learn more about the study Jen Psaki cited in a recent White House press briefing: https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/996570855/disinformation-dozen-test-facebooks-twitters-ability-to-curb-vaccine-hoaxes Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy explores the latest hazard to your health: the misinformation persuading people not to get vaccinated. US Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy has declared war on misinformation and explains why he put out a rare Surgeon General's Advisory on the topic. Andy then covers the latest data on how Americans get information and what they believe with Molly Brodie of the Kaiser Family Foundation. And Dr. Lisa is out and about having conversations with people on the street in North Carolina and Virginia. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Dr. Lisa is on Twitter @askdrfitz. Follow Dr. Vivek Murthy on Twitter @Surgeon_General or @vivek_murthy. Follow Molly Brodie @Mollybrodie. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read Surgeon General Vivek Murthy’s advisory on confronting health misinformation: https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/surgeon-general-misinformation-advisory.pdf Learn more about the 5 most common COVID-19 vaccine myths American adults believe: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-april-2021/ Here is the Kaiser Family Foundation’s report looking at people’s vaccine decisions 6 months after their initial polling: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-in-their-own-words-six-months-later/ Check out the Kaiser Family Foundation’s latest COVID-19 vaccine data: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-june-2021/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

To begin, Andy has thoughts on CPAC attendees cheering the US not hitting its vaccine goal. Then, David Axelrod, longtime Democratic strategist, joins Andy for a deep dive into the topic of the unvaccinated. They also contemplate how the pandemic will affect the 2022 and 2024 elections and lament the politicization of public health. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow David Axelrod on Twitter @davidaxelrod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about the Pew Research Center’s Validated Voters survey on the 2020 election: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/ Listen to Andy and Lanhee Chen on The Hugh Hewitt show from February: https://hughhewitt.com/video/wh-covid-response-teams-andy-slavitt-and-hoovers-lanhee-chen-on-vaccine-rollout-variant-risk/ Read President Biden’s July 4th speech: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/07/05/remarks-by-president-biden-celebrating-independence-day-and-independence-from-covid-19/ Check out David’s opinion piece in The New York Times about his daughter Lauren and proposed changes to Medicaid funding for people with intellectual disabilities: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/04/opinion/disability-funding-medicaid.html Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy’s conversation with famed conservative pollster Frank Luntz about the unvaccinated and the political games of the GOP takes an unpredictable and emotional turn. Whatever your incoming impressions of Luntz, the rawness of the conversation helps us see the dilemma of the unvaccinated in a new light – and gives real tips on how to have difficult conversations. You’ll hear the inside story of what really went down in the White House as Andy and team began the effort to reach the unvaccinated. Dr. Lisa talks to “on the fence” citizens in Prince George’s County, Maryland, and we hear Andy express his anger at the dangerous latest efforts of Marjorie Taylor Greene to thwart public safety using fear. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Dr. Lisa is on Twitter @askdrfitz. Follow Frank Luntz on Twitter @FrankLuntz. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read the Daily Caller article about Biden’s door-to-door vaccination campaign: https://dailycaller.com/2021/07/07/joe-biden-jen-psaki-door-to-door-vaccination-efforts-reality/ Watch Frank’s focus group talking to Republicans about the COVID-19 vaccines: https://debeaumont.org/changing-the-covid-conversation/focus-group/ Learn more about Frank’s work with the de Beaumont Foundation to get Republicans vaccinated: https://debeaumont.org/changing-the-covid-conversation/ Check out the COVID-19 Community Corps: https://wecandothis.hhs.gov/covidcommunitycorps Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In perhaps the most essential episode of the series, Andy gets a real sense of where we are now in the scientific response to COVID-19 with Dr. Scott Gottlieb, FDA Commissioner under President Trump. In this riveting conversation, they cover the science, the politics, and the policies that got us here and will lead us out. They also discuss the importance of their bipartisanship work together and Scott's forthcoming book, Uncontrolled Spread. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Dr. Scott Gottlieb on Twitter @ScottGottliebMD. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Watch Andy’s interview with Sen. Bill Frist about his book, Preventable: https://www.c-span.org/video/?511975-1/after-words-andy-slavitt#! Read the study Scott mentioned about repeat infections in Denmark: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00575-4/fulltext Here’s the latest on the effort to develop a COVID-19 antiviral pill: https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/u-s-pledges-3b-plus-for-covid-19-antiviral-pill-within-a-year Learn more about the letter Andy and Scott co-wrote last year about contract tracing: https://www.npr.org/2020/04/27/845165404/ex-officials-call-for-46-billion-for-tracing-isolating-in-next-coronavirus-packa Check out Scott’s book, Uncontrolled Spread: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/uncontrolled-spread-scott-gottlieb?variant=39344420356130 Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What does the science really, really say about wearing masks indoors if you’re vaccinated? Andy gets answers to your most pressing questions on everyone’s favorite game show, Safe or Not Safe, with top-flight epidemiologists Farzad Mostashari and Caitlin Rivers. Plus, Dr. Lisa goes out into the field to take the pulse of people starting to return back to life. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Dr. Lisa is on Twitter @askdrfitz. Follow Caitlin Rivers @cmyeaton and Farzad Mostashari @Farzad_MD on Twitter. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out this article about Israel and the Delta variant: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israel-delta-vaccine-shield-holding/2021/06/28/1ba865b2-d7e1-11eb-8c87-ad6f27918c78_story.html Learn more about getting an mRNA booster after your J&J vaccine: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/booster-may-be-needed-jj-shot-delta-variant-spreads-some-experts-already-taking-2021-06-25/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky joins Andy to provide direct answers to today’s toughest questions about COVID-19. They discuss unvaccinated kids, the Delta variant, and the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. She and Andy have a candid conversation about what it’s like to run the CDC right now and she weighs in on Andy’s most controversial tweet of all time. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Dr. Rochelle Walensky on Twitter @CDCDirector. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out this New England Journal of Medicine study on the transmission of COVID among household contacts of vaccinated people: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2107717 Watch Dr. Walensky speak about her feeling of ‘impending doom’ back in March: https://youtu.be/hL9doW9y90k Read the MMWR Dr. Walensky mentions in today’s episode about anxiety, depression, PTSD, and suicidal ideation in public health workers during the COVID-19 pandemic: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7026e1.htm?s_cid=mm7026e1_w Order Preventable by June 30 and complete the form to receive a free set of limited-edition stickers, a custom-printed Preventable mask, and a signed bookplate: https://read.macmillan.com/promo/smppreventablejunepromo/ Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki joins Andy fresh off a press briefing to talk about rebuilding public trust in the government, working with President Biden, and what it was like becoming a household name overnight. Andy shares his thoughts on the ultimate COVID-19 question: bat or lab? Plus, In the Bubble field correspondent Dr. Lisa visits a federal vaccination site to see what a government in action can do. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Dr. Lisa on Twitter @askdrfitz. Jen Psaki is on Twitter at @PressSec. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Check out these resources from today’s episode: Watch Jen’s first-ever White House press briefing on January 20th, 2021: https://youtu.be/N4WMxMJ-J3Y Order Preventable by June 30 and complete the form to receive a free set of limited-edition stickers, a custom-printed Preventable mask, and a signed bookplate: https://read.macmillan.com/promo/smppreventablejunepromo/ Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy starts by answering the one question no one else will about the Delta variant. Then, journalist Jessica Yellin joins Andy to discuss his new book Preventable. They talk about key figures like President Trump, Jared Kushner, and Dr. Deborah Birx, what lessons we need to take with us from the pandemic, and why we should feel hopeful now. You’ll hear some of the most riveting clips from the book read by actor Bradley Whitford … and find out how to get a signed copy of Preventable. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Find Jessica Yellin on Twitter and Instagram @JessicaYellin. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Check out these resources from today’s episode: Order Preventable by June 30 and complete the form to receive a free set of limited-edition stickers, a custom-printed Preventable mask, and a signed bookplate: https://read.macmillan.com/promo/smppreventablejunepromo/ Watch Jessica break down the biggest news stories of the day with News Not Noise: https://newsnotnoise.com/ Learn more about the Delta variant: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/22/health/delta-variant-covid.html Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy and Dr. Lisa launch into the first chapter of “Our Shot” by remembering the wounds of the beginning of the pandemic. Listener memories of the early days set the scene and Dr. Lisa introduces us to a Seattle physician who was one of the first doctors on the front lines of the pandemic in America and an ER doc in New York City who recalls the lasting mental health effects many of her colleagues are left with as a result of the spring surge that overtook the city. These heroes — and all of us — have come a long way. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Dr. Lisa on Twitter @askdrfitz. Dr. Tsion Firew is on Twitter at @DrTsion. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out this article from The New York Times looking back at how COVID-19 hit Seattle and where things stand today: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/us/coronavirus-seattle-success.html Learn more about COVID-19 anxiety and burnout in New York frontline workers: https://www.clinicaladvisor.com/home/meeting-coverage/aapa-2021/anxiety-burnout-ny-frontline-workers/ Read Dr. Firew’s opinion piece in The Guardian about deciding to get vaccinated while pregnant: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/13/doctor-pregnant-taking-covid-coronavirus-vaccine Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy's back! He’s joined by his expanded In the Bubble team, including new regular contributor Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick and his son Zach, who returns with one of his signature “Zach facts.” This episode weaves in Andy’s audio journal from his time as Senior Advisor for Coronavirus Response in the Biden White House. Listen as Andy and Dr. Lisa go inside the administration’s urgent, war-like effort to vaccinate the public. Plus, Dr. Fauci like you've never heard him before. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Dr. Lisa on Twitter @askdrfitz. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask Andy questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read more about Andy’s time in the Biden White House: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/11/health-202-andy-slavitt-describes-life-white-house-coronavirus-task-force/ Watch Dr. Lisa on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/GrapevineHealth Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Enjoy this Best of In the Bubble episode featuring Andy’s riveting conversation with The Atlantic's Ed Yong, the journalist Andy thinks has done the best job writing about and analyzing the pandemic. We’re highlighting this conversation in part because Ed recently returned to writing about the pandemic after a few months away on book leave. They discuss America's failed response, how this whole thing might end, and why wanting things to go back to "normal" isn't the right mindset. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Ed Yong on Twitter @edyong209. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read all of Ed Yong’s COVID-19 reporting in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/ed-yong/ Check out The New York Times piece “The Pandemic in Six-Word Memoirs” Ed mentions in today’s show: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/11/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-poetry-memoirs.html Read the paper Ed talks about by historian Howard P. Segal on “America as Techno-Fix Nation:” https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5325/utopianstudies.28.2.0231 To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Enjoy this Best of In the Bubble episode in which Andy (and Zach) chat with actor and comedian Kumail Nanjiani. They talk about the scary, early days of COVID, how the pandemic impacted Kumail’s mental health, and what it was like living with an immunocompromised person through it all. Plus, Kumail’s wife, Emily V. Gordon, stops by to tell us the couple’s top 3 “cool things to do at home.” Follow Kumail on Twitter and Instagram @kumailn. Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask Andy questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Catch Kumail and Emily on their podcast Staying In with Emily & Kumail: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/staying-in-with-emily-kumail/id1503412182 Watch The Big Sick here: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Sick-Kumail-Nanjiani/dp/B07193L7RD To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Enjoy this Best of In the Bubble episode featuring Andy’s conversion with Dr. Anthony Fauci. Andy brings you into the bubble with Dr. Fauci by asking some of the questions he received from you. Even if you already listened, check it out again and see how their predictions for 2021 held up! Check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about the NIH’s research on therapeutic management of patients with COVID-19: https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-management/ Watch the NIH’s 2-day virtual workshop on post-acute manifestations of COVID-19: https://videocast.nih.gov/watch=38878 Check out this tool from NPR that shows where in the US hospitals are filling up: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours Read President Obama’s full 2009 speech from the signing of the stem cell executive order that Andy quotes in today’s episode: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-prepared-delivery-signing-stem-cell-executive-order-and-scientifi To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Bob gets answers to your questions about long COVID from pulmonologist Lekshmi Santhosh and neurologist Jennifer Frontera. They cover who’s getting it, what treatments are available, why the vaccines seem to help some people, and much more on this Toolkit. Plus, Dr. Bob weighs in on the new CDC guidelines on masking. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s new Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Lekshmi Santhosh @LekshmiMD on Twitter. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Here are the new CDC guidelines on masking that Dr. Bob talks about in today’s episode: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html Survivor Corps is a support group for COVID-19 survivors: https://www.survivorcorps.com/ Body Politic is also a COVID-19 support group: https://www.wearebodypolitic.com/covid19 Read about Akiko Iwasaki’s work on long Covid: https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/vaccines-long-covid Here’s article from The New York Times about regaining your senses of taste and smell that Lekshmi mentioned: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/26/well/live/covid-anosmia-smell-training.html Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Bob calls up San Francisco Giants President and CEO Larry Baer to talk about what it’s taken to get people back in the stadium for the first time since 2019. They discuss what fans have to do to see a game, how the organization decided on those criteria, and what the reaction has been so far. Plus, what the Giants are doing to encourage people to get vaccinated. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Here’s more about the 2021 MLB season and how COVID-19 is affecting it: https://www.mlb.com/news/what-you-need-to-know-about-mlb-in-2021 Check out this article about how the MLB is encouraging players to get vaccinated: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/12/sports/baseball/mlb-coronavirus-vaccine.html Learn more about the Giants’ FanSafe at Oracle Park program: https://www.mlb.com/giants/fans/safety Read more about the therapy bunny who took in a game at Oracle Park last month: https://abc7news.com/sports/therapy-bunny-in-oracle-park-stands-a-hit-with-san-francisco-giants-fans/10539344/ Here’s more about how San Francisco celebrated Willie Mays’s 90th birthday: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/05/08/willie-mays-90th-birthday-san-francisco-giants-celebration/ Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The good news: things are starting to open back up. The bad news: it’s going to feel weird. Dr. Bob is joined by Lucy McBride and Craig Spencer for this toolkit all about how to navigate the "new normal." From taking off your mask in public to dealing with anxiety to navigating post-vaccine life with unvaccinated kids... this toolkit’s got something for everyone. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s new Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Craig Spencer @Craig_A_Spencer and Lucy McBride @drlucymcbride on Twitter. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Here are the CDC’s latest guidelines for fully-vaccinated people: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html Read all of Craig’s Medium pieces, including the one about how things are about to get really weird: https://craig-a-spencer.medium.com/ Check out Lucy’s opinion piece in The Washington Post about feeling anxiety over the end of the pandemic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/09/weve-adjusted-pandemic-life-now-we-face-anxiety-leaving-it-behind/ Here’s Lucy’s CNN opinion piece about taking her mask off with vaccinated patients: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/30/opinions/secret-weapon-ending-pandemic-mcbride/index.html Read the collection of essays about emerging from the pandemic that Craig mentions in the episode: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/style/re-enter-society-after-covid.html Check out this Irish Times article on the University of Canterbury study about outdoor transmission that Lucy mentions: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/outdoor-transmission-accounts-for-0-1-of-state-s-covid-19-cases-1.4529036 Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Bob talks with journalist Vidya Krishnan about India’s devastating COVID surge. As India’s health system collapses, Vidya says this global health crisis has been exacerbated by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and, as she calls it, the “moral malnutrition of the rich.” Plus, the lessons she wants the US to take from this unfolding tragedy. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Vidya Krishnan is on Twitter @VidyaKrishnan. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Check out Vidya’s article for Caravan Magazine that she mentions in today’s episode: https://caravanmagazine.in/health/india-covid-19-taskforce-did-not-meet-february-march-despite-surge-say-members Read Arundhati Roy’s piece on India’s COVID catastrophe in The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/28/crime-against-humanity-arundhati-roy-india-covid-catastrophe Here is Vidya’s article for The Atlantic, “India Is What Happens When Rich People Do Nothing:” https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/04/india-covid19-moral-failure/618702/ Here’s the John Barry opinion piece that Bob mentions in today’s episode: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/opinion/coronavirus-shutdown.html Learn what you can do to help the situation in India: https://www.nytimes.com/article/india-covid-how-to-help.html Keep track of India’s COVID cases: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/asia/india-coronavirus-cases.html Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Bob has two conversations about the work being done to get vaccines to Latino and Black communities. First, Jon Jacobo and Diane Havlir talk about the Latino Task Force, which is testing and vaccinating people in San Francisco’s Mission District. Then, Rhea Boyd breaks down the things that are preventing a lot of Black people from getting vaccinated. Spoiler alert: It’s not about attitudes. It’s about access. This episode of the In the Bubble is brought to you in part by the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative: working to build a healthier, more just and inclusive future for everyone. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s new Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Find our guests on Twitter @Jon_Jacobo, @DHavlir, and @RheaBoydMD. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about the Latino Task Force here: https://www.ltfrespuestalatina.com Check out The Conversation, a campaign to get facts about the COVID-19 vaccines to Black communities, co-developed by Rhea: www.betweenusaboutus.org Find out more about COVID vaccine in hesitancy in America here: https://khn.org/news/article/covid-vaccine-hesitancy-drops-among-americans-new-kff-survey-shows/ Read the Washington Post opinion piece by Drs. Uché and Oni Blackstock that Rhea mentioned: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/black-americans-should-face-lower-age-cutoffs-to-qualify-for-a-vaccine/2021/02/19/3029d5de-72ec-11eb-b8a9-b9467510f0fe_story.html Here’s the working paper on race-based COVID mortality that Rhea talked about in today’s episode: https://cdn1.sph.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/1266/2021/02/21_Chen_covidMortality_Race_Education_HCPDS_WorkingPaper_Vol-21_No-3_Final_footer.pdf Here’s where you can find Jonathan Metzl’s book Dying of Whiteness: https://www.dyingofwhiteness.com/ Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Bob talks with John Halamka, President of Mayo Clinic Platform, about how COVID has forced medicine to embrace technology at a blistering pace. They discuss what changed, what will stick around post-COVID, and why a computer will never be able to fully replace your doctor. But, are we close to having Alexa diagnose your illnesses? Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. John Halamka is on Twitter @jhalamka. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read Bob’s Washington Post op-ed about why it’s a dangerous time to be unvaccinated: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/19/this-is-most-dangerous-moment-be-unvaccinated/ Keep up with the latest news from Mayo Clinic: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/ Learn more about the COVID-19 Healthcare Coalition: https://c19hcc.org/ Read up on the legacy of Henrietta Lacks: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/henriettalacks/ Order Bob’s book, The Digital Doctor: Hope, Hype, And Harm At The Dawn Of Medicine’s Computer Age: https://www.mhprofessional.com/9781260019605-usa-the-digital-doctor-hope-hype-and-harm-at-the-dawn-of-medicines-computer-age-group Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Bob calls up Nicole Lurie from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations to talk about the state of COVID-19 vaccinations around the globe. They cover COVAX, vaccine nationalism, how vaccine hesitancy is playing out in different countries, and the biggest barriers to vaccinating the world. Plus, the lessons she’s taking away from COVID for the next global health crisis. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s new Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about COVAX: https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/covax-explained Read up on the rapidly escalating Covid situation in India: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/04/22/989768074/how-india-went-from-a-ray-of-hope-to-a-world-record-for-most-covid-cases-in-a-da This article, featuring Nicole, makes the case for donating US Covid vaccines overseas: https://khn.org/news/article/the-case-for-donating-us-covid-vaccines-overseas/ Check out Heidi Larson’s book about vaccine hesitancy, Stuck, that Nicole mentions in today’s episode: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/stuck-9780190077242 Keep track of global vaccination rates: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Bob calls up Weill Cornell immunologist John Moore to figure out what you need to know about the pause on the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. They discuss why this extremely rare side effect is showing up in J&J and AstraZeneca but not Moderna or Pfizer, how people who have received the J&J vaccine should be thinking about it, and how they think this will get resolved. Plus, John’s thoughts on how the vaccines will hold up against the various variants circulating right now. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Watch Dr. Fauci’s appearance on Meet the Press talking about the pause of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine: https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-fauci-interview-we-have-to-be-careful-on-vaccines-like-johnson-johnson-110407237630 Read the joint CDC and FDA statement in which the agencies recommend pausing use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0413-JJ-vaccine.html Here’s the latest on how the EU is handling the Johnson & Johnson vaccine: https://apnews.com/article/johnson-johnson-european-union-regulator-874bf0fb5374695d924d647e57c67192 Check out this article that outlines the differences between the J&J vaccine and the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/28/us/jj-vaccine-pfizer-moderna-differences.html Watch this virtual conversation with John about the science behind the COVID-19 vaccines: https://www.swiny.org/2021/01/jan-21-understanding-the-science-of-covid-19-vaccines-a-virtual-conversation-with-dr-john-moore/ Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is it safe to go on vacation this summer? Can I send my kids to camp? Should I invite unvaccinated family members to my summer wedding? Drs. Caitlin Rivers and Farzad Mostashari join Dr. Bob to answer all this and more on this special, summer edition of Safe or Not Safe. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s new Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Follow Caitlin Rivers @cmyeaton and Farzad Mostashari @Farzad_MD on Twitter. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Learn more about the CDC and FDA’s decision to pause the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/joint-cdc-and-fda-statement-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine Watch Mike Osterholm’s Meet the Press interview Bob mentions in today’s episode: https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-osterholm-interview-covid-variant-is-a-brand-new-ballgame-109642309532 Check out the CDC’s current guidelines for fully vaccinated people: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html This article answers frequently asked questions about COVID-19 vaccines and pregnancy: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/wondering-about-covid-19-vaccines-if-youre-pregnant-or-breastfeeding-2021010721722 Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Bob calls up author John Barry and TIME Magazine’s Jeffrey Kluger to talk about what the 1918 flu pandemic and the American polio epidemic can illuminate about COVID-19. In addition to the historical similarities and differences, they discuss what “the end” looked like and what, if anything, that means for us today. Plus, find out which of the three men was a Polio Pioneer! And get Dr. Bob’s take on the joint CDC and FDA decision to pause use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Find Jeffrey Kluger @jeffreykluger and John Barry @johnmbarry on Twitter. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Read the joint CDC and FDA statement in which the agencies recommend pausing use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0413-JJ-vaccine.html Watch the news clip from April 12, 1955 about Jonas Salk’s polio vaccine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LlDn_MQDkc Check out John’s book, The Great Influenza, here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/288950/the-great-influenza-by-john-m-barry/ Here’s where you can learn more about Jeff’s book, Splendid Solution: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/291641/splendid-solution-by-jeffrey-kluger/ Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.