
Ian and Jay Space Out
A fail told by two idiots, Full of sound effects & awkward silences, Signifying nothing.
@igb, @jayholler · Ian Brown and Jay Holler
Show overview
Ian and Jay Space Out has been publishing since 2021, and across the 5 years since has built a catalogue of 47 episodes. That works out to roughly 50 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a monthly cadence.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 56 min and 1h 4m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. The publisher flags most episodes as explicit, so expect adult themes or strong language throughout. It is catalogued as a EN-language Technology show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 1 months ago, with 9 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2025, with 23 episodes published. Published by Ian Brown and Jay Holler.
From the publisher
A fail told by two idiots, Full of sound effects & awkward silences, Signifying nothing.
Latest Episodes
View all 47 episodesYou crazy bastards.
Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law!
ETwitter was way ahead of it's time. Jay and I discuss some innovative work (that sadly never got off the ground) Twitter was doing on ephemeral environments back in the day. We also talk about a $200K bug that spawned that work. Also, we try not to kink shame Donald Trump and/or Dan Scavino. Elon Musk still sucks.
What About Bob?
EIan and Jay talk about JavaOne, Project Leyden, and Netflix. Donald Trump is a garbage person. Scott Bessent does it again. Iran can probably strike most of Europe if it wants to. Marc Andreessen has a no-personality disorder. Twitter would have been 20 years old if it had survived.
Things You Should Never Do
EIan and Jay come in hot with takes on the War on Iran (and Venezuela), xAI and Elon starting over again from "first principles", and the idiots who were running DOGE.
Get your warfighter on.
EWar all the time. Trees kill people in the winter. Pete Hegseth is cosplaying as a "warfighter". RIP Dan Simmons.
Democracy Dies When We Let Billionaires Buy Newspapers
EIn under 40 minutes (Ian had to take the kids skiing) Jay and Ian send out good vibes to Owncast's Gabe Kangas, laugh at Donald Trump's assault on efficiency, lament the downward spiral of the Washington Post, and rejoice in the small-world serendipity that have brought Tim Bray, Rob Sayrer, and Claude together. Get well soon Gabe!!!
Two Guys, One Podcast
EIan and Jay talk sports, the Superbowl, and the origins of the show. Shout out to Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz! Also, can we have servers in space? Probaby not yet. SpaceX now owns Groq and Twitter. RIP Heroku. Tim Bray is in the Epstein Files! Sort of.
The End of America
EThe End of America. ICE murdering civilians in the streets of Minneapolis. Trump Officials cosplaying as Nazis. Who needs a warrant if you have a gun? Oh yeah, Musk wanted to party with Jefferey Epstein and Dan Scavino is getting married today.
War all the time.
EIt is war all the time. Ian and Jay say what everybody else is saying. Nothing really revalatory in this show, since the Trump administration no longer gives a fuck about the Constitution they don't even try to hide it. The President is slurring the quiet part at press conferences. Also, it is a war, so innocent people are getting hurt and killed. Ian and Jay try, unsuccessfully, to end things on a high note, with a couple of jokes and some hopeful thoughts about the Fediverse. Oh well. So it goes.
Something to Dü
EHüsker Dü vs The Replacements. A Kenyan explains why people can't identify ChatGPT-generated content just by looking for em-dashes. The billionaires don't want to pay taxes. Jay Holler is hiring.
Wiles Times
EIan has (self-diagnosed) carpal tunnel from too much doomscrolling. The Wall Street Journal let an LLM manage a vending machine and it lost thousands of dollars, ordered live fish and a Playstation for workers, and was completely pwned. Suzie Wiles, JD Vanace, Stephen Miller, and Dan Scavino pose for a revealing photo shoot. The Sub-Pop store in Sea-Tac closes, and Elon Musk is giving financial advice.
Times New Roman Salute
EWe start off on a somber note as news of horrifying attacks at Brown and in Sydney trickle in. On a lighter note, Jay is excited to see that Lily Allen is on SNL this weekend, Marco Rubio declares war on Calibri, Marcin Wichary wants to see shift delimiters in markup languages, and we ponder the fate of the Twitter Time capsule before abruptly ending the show when the laptop battery dies. Enjoy!
We all took an L that day.
EElon wants to break up the EU. JD Vance is looking ahead to 2028. The negatives of the positive feedback loop of ELon and his enablers. Bryan Cantrill and Oxide's take on writing and reading in the age of LLMs. Transcribing podcasts with Whisper.cpp. Analyzing Twitter archives using ChatGPT.
K.R.E.A.M. (Kash Runs Errands at Mar-a-Lago)
ETrump wants to jail and/or execute his enemies. Kash Patel is spending taxpayer money to jet around the country while literally SWAT-ing his girlfriend. The CEO of Roblox goes full cringe on a podcast. Jack Dorsey (and everyone else on Twitter) gets doxxed.
Hot Mic
EWe kick things off with a hot mic, a bit of an echo, and then don't talk about David Harbour before getting into X traffic inflation, Dan Scavino and Hannah Aendt, the apparent appearance of a blue wave, before closing with a thing or two about restaurants.
Sandwich Artist
EA hero is a sandwich but is also a guy who throws a sandwich at ICE goons during the invasion of DC. The MAGA Secret Police show up at a Gavin Newsom rally. Also teeth, teeth, teeth, TEETH, TEETH, TEETH, TEETH!
Growing a Language
EJay and Ian talk about how to grow a language, the JVM Language Summit, new features in Java 25, and how long it takes to get to the other side of the planet.
We Need to Fire the IT Guy
ETrump continues to act like a fascist. Jen Easterly is denied a West Point position based on Laura Loomer's Tweets. There is a doom^H^H^H^H hyperloop coming to Nashville. We experience profound technical difficulties.
Venture Captialists don't understand math.
EJay and Ian are back after a few weeks of undeserved vacation. They kick things of with technical difficulties and then get into Vine's disturbing rebirth as an something something 'AI'. Sequoia's Shaun Maguire is still a terrible person, and GrowSF's Garry Tan is bad at economics/math. Trump continues to wage war on the poor. In good news, yet another study shows (black) coffee is good for you.
A New Hope
EZohran Mamdani, a new hope for the Democrats? Garry Tan is cooked. America is in the Upside Down.