Hustle Humbly Podcast

We finally did it. We sat down with the man behind the numbers AND we recorded it live at the NAR podcast studio in Chicago. If you've ever been at a dinner party, a showing, or a closing table and gotten hit with "so... how's the market?", this episode is for you. We got to chat with Dr. Lawrence Yun, Chief Economist at the National Association of Realtors, and y'all, we had SO many questions. We're the data nerds who cover the NAR Home Buyers and Sellers Profile Report every single year, so getting face time with the person behind all that research? It was kind of a big deal for us. Dr. Yun has been at NAR since 2000 and stepped into the Chief Economist role in 2008 right in the middle of the foreclosure crisis. He's testified before Congress, appeared on C-SPAN, and was recognized by the Wall Street Journal for having one of the closest forecasts for 2024. Basically, if there's someone you want breaking down housing market trends for Realtors, it's him. We cover a lot of ground in this one, from the housing shortage and what's actually being done about it, to the lock-in effect, affordability challenges for first-time buyers, capital gains tax reform, and what a "sweet spot" interest rate would even look like. Dr. Yun also shares something we weren't expecting, a really personal story about his family immigrating to the U.S. and how home ownership shaped his perspective on wealth and the American dream. Here's what we cover in this episode: Why the answer to "how's the market?" is always local — and how to explain that to clients The housing shortage by the numbers (hint: we're still millions of units short) Why the median age of first-time buyers hitting 40 is "the most depressing statistic" of last year The lock-in effect: who it really impacts and why it may be loosening Why 6% isn't actually a high rate historically but still feels impossible for today's buyers How home prices rising 50% since pre-COVID has changed the affordability conversation The capital gains tax exemption that hasn't been updated in 30 years (and why that matters for your sellers AND your investment properties) What the Housing for the 21st Century Act could actually do How investors releasing rental properties could help the first-time buyer shortage What we need to build annually to get out of the housing shortage Key Quotes & Takeaways: "Is it a good time to buy? That's not the right question. Do you want to build wealth over time or not?" Dr. Lawrence Yun "Your house was $60,000. Their rate is 6% AND the house is $400,000. It's not the same math." Alissa "Median age of the first-time buyer is now 40. That is the most depressing statistic of last year." Dr. Lawrence Yun "I had 24 showings and five offers in one day at $175K. The same week, a $500K listing could sit for 50 days. Same market. Totally different world." Katy "If you are listening to this podcast, you are already ahead." Dr. Lawrence Yun Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: NAR Home Buyers and Sellers Profile Report(2025 in episode 338) NAR Affordability Index NAR Existing Home Sales Statistics Housing for the 21st Century Act (bipartisan housing legislation) Ability to Repay Act (post-2008 mortgage reform legislation) Blue Chip Council (economic forecasting panel) Wall Street Journal Forecasting Survey Joint Center for Housing Studies at Harvard University Hustle Humbly Community Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly

Feeling a little desperate in your real estate business lately? You are not alone—and this episode is your mindset reset. Katy and Alissa are diving into the behaviors that show up when agents feel pressure to make money… and how those "desperate" decisions can quietly damage your reputation, confidence, and long-term success. From overpricing listings just to win them, to chasing every shiny lead source, to dropping your professional standards, this episode is your honest (and loving) wake-up call. The truth? Acting like a desperate real estate agent doesn't attract more business; it repels it. Instead, we're sharing what to do differently so you can protect your business, maintain your professionalism, and build a career you're actually proud of, even in a slow market. Here's what we cover in this episode: What "desperate agent behavior" really looks like (and why it's so common right now) How overpricing a listing can hurt your reputation long-term Why saying "yes" to everything is actually hurting your business The danger of chasing shiny lead sources when you feel slow How dropping your standards can cost you future referrals Real examples of setting boundaries with sellers (and earning respect because of it) Why consistency beats constant rebranding or "next big thing" energy The difference between being flexible vs. losing your boundaries What to do instead when business feels slow or uncertain If you've been feeling the pressure, questioning your business, or tempted to make decisions out of fear—this is the episode you need. You don't need to be desperate. You need to be consistent, professional, and confident. Key Quotes & Takeaways "When you act like a desperate real estate agent, you're not gaining business; you're losing respect." Alissa "Confidence audits your business. Desperation just reacts." Katy "If you let your clients run your business, you're doing them a disservice." Alissa "You don't need balloons to sell a house; you need people walking through the door." Alissa "Referral-based business is a slow burn… but chasing shiny objects will burn you out." Katy Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Episode 113 Be the Boss Email Templates 101 Agent Systems 101 FREE Database Template Hustle Humbly Community Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly

We got invited to NAR headquarters in Chicago for a small influencer summit and honestly? We thought the first email was fake and deleted it. 😂 But once we realized this was a real invitation, we packed our bags, flew out on Katy's birthday, and headed to the "mothership" to hear directly from NAR's leadership team about what has gone wrong, what they're trying to fix, and where they think the Realtor brand is headed next. In this bonus episode, we're giving you the full download. No sugarcoating. No blind praise. Just our honest take on what we saw, what we heard, and what felt different this time. We're chatting about the tiny guest list, the giant chandelier, the very fancy boardroom, and the leaders now trying to course correct after lawsuits, leadership failures, and a few rough years for the association. We're also sharing what surprised us most, what gave us hope, and why we still think time will tell. Here's what we cover in this episode: Why we almost deleted the NAR invitation for good What it was like walking into NAR headquarters in Chicago How we ended up recording in NAR's podcast studio Our first impressions of CEO Nykia Wright and the new leadership team What NAR says it is doing to rebuild trust and professionalism Why local boards may be facing some major changes What we learned about NAR advocacy, lobbying, and where your dues are going The part of Lawrence Yun's presentation that really caught our attention Why the new consumer ad campaign actually impressed us What it felt like to be in the room as working Realtors still in the trenches Why we left feeling heard, hopeful, and still appropriately skeptical Our honest thoughts on whether NAR can really get this train back on the tracks Key Quotes & Takeaways Katy: "We want to be an advocate for NAR, but not a mouthpiece for NAR." Alissa: "Hustle Humbly is here to help bring professionalism back to the Realtor brand. That is essentially NAR's goal as well." Katy: "We're not here to sugarcoat it. We're just going to relay what happened and give you our thoughts." Alissa: "I feel optimistic about the people they have in place and how new they are." Katy: "We really needed to record this for posterity so we can come back and see if the train stayed on the tracks." Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: NAR consumer ad campaign: "Right by you" NAR shareable market graphics for agents Email Templates 101 Agent Systems 101 FREE Database Template Hustle Humbly Community Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly

There are a lot of opinions floating around about buying a house and, unfortunately, many of them are just plain wrong. In this episode, Katy and Alissa dive into some of the most common home buying myths they hear from buyers and break down what's actually true. From the classic "you need 20% down" to the idea that new construction doesn't need an inspection, these myths can cause confusion, hesitation, and sometimes costly mistakes. The truth is that buying a home is full of nuance, and having the right information (and the right Realtor!) makes all the difference. To make things interesting, Katy and Alissa review more than 30 common buyer misconceptions and secretly choose their personal top myths along the way. At the end, they compare notes to reveal the biggest misconceptions they think buyers still believe today. If you're currently house hunting, planning to buy soon, or just want to understand the process better, this episode is packed with helpful clarity. Here's what we cover in this episode: Why you do NOT need 20% down to buy a home Why the highest offer doesn't always win The truth about inspections (especially new construction!) Why calling the number on the sign may not help you Why pre-approval is essential before touring homes The reality of interest rates and affordability The problem with waiting for the "perfect" house What really happens when deals fall apart Whether foreclosures are actually a good deal Why every buyer needs their own representation Key Quotes & Takeaways Katy: "No one gets the perfect house. Not even if they build it from scratch." Alissa: "The highest offer doesn't always win. Terms matter just as much as price." Katy: "Please don't call the number on the sign. You need someone representing you." Alissa: "You can't even start house hunting until you know what you're approved for." Katy: "A home inspection isn't a crystal ball—it's a snapshot of the house today." Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Episode 149: The Forever Home Myth All products and free resources are located at hustlehumblypodcast.com. Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly

If you sold homes during 2020–2022, you likely helped buyers compete in bidding wars, escalate over asking, and stretch to win. Now? Some of those same clients are calling because they need to sell. And the market is… softer. In this episode, Katy and Alissa walk through what it really looks like when COVID-era buyers need to resell in a different market than they purchased in. From tight equity situations to emotional listing appointments, they're sharing honest stories, practical scripts, and how to protect your own mindset while delivering hard news. This isn't about panic. It's about professionalism. Here's what we cover in this episode: Why today's "soft market" is not the 2008 crash How to handle sellers who are breaking even (or barely making money) What to say when the comps don't support their expectations Why condition matters even more when you're pushing price The danger of "just offering an allowance" How to walk sellers through worst-case scenarios using a net sheet When renting might be the better move How to avoid carrying your clients' emotional stress If you're feeling that sinking-in-your-stomach feeling when running CMAs lately, this episode will help you reframe the situation, set expectations early, and guide your sellers with clarity and confidence. Key Quotes & Takeaways Katy: "Devastating news isn't breaking even. Devastating news is having to beg the bank to let you sell." Alissa: "You can care about your clients without carrying their stress inside your body." Katy: "If you're pushing the price above the comps, your condition has to be A-plus." Alissa: "I can't want this more than you do." Katy: "Are these the numbers you were expecting?" Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Seller Net Sheet + Buyer Cost Sheet: https://hustlehumblypodcast.com/netsheet Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly

Spring hits… and suddenly everything feels loud. New listings. Awards. "Sold in one day!" posts. Agent tours. Realtor prom season. And before you know it, you're questioning everything. Why does everyone else look busier than me? Should I be doing more? Am I behind? In this episode, we're talking about the Realtor Comparison Trap and the mindset shift you need this spring to protect your confidence, your peace, and your professionalism. Spring is a naturally busy season in real estate. But it's also the season where comparison creeps in hard. Between awards ceremonies, fresh listings popping up daily, and social media highlight reels, it's easy to feel like you're either behind… or not doing enough. Here's what we cover in this episode: Why spring market noise can mess with your mindset Realtor prom season and the awards comparison spiral How to reframe other agents' success (community over competition) Preparing your systems before busy hits What NOT to add to your plate just because others are doing it A powerful mindset trick for driving past someone else's listing sign Cleaning up your social media algorithm to protect your peace How to post professionally without hurting the Realtor brand Why being present in your office can create unexpected opportunity A refreshing buyer story that proves timing and priorities matter Truthfully, comparison is internal. If someone's marketing makes you spiral, that's your cue to check your mindset, not attack theirs. This is your permission slip to: - Mute what doesn't serve you - Protect your boundaries - Focus on your systems - Stay in your lane - Celebrate other agents without shrinking yourself The spring market doesn't require panic. It requires preparation. And a healthy mindset. You're not behind. You're building. Key Quotes & Takeaways Katy: "Every sign that isn't mine means the market is moving. That's a good thing." Alissa: "If someone's marketing messes with your mindset, that's your cue to look inward." Katy: "We don't need to throw away great to try out good." Katy: "Busy doesn't always mean better. Prepared is better." Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Episode 33 – Preparing for Busy Episode 17 – What to Do When You're New or Slow Episode 331 – A Realtor Leaves Her Phone for a Week Email Templates 101 Agent Systems 101 FREE Database Template Hustle Humbly Community Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly

If you've ever had a seller say, "We're probably about a year out… but can you come tell us what to do?" — this episode is for you. Today we're talking about how to win the listing early without wasting your time, burning yourself out, or giving away all your value. Because here's the truth: the agent who shows up first often wins. But how early is too early? And what should a listing prep timeline for sellers actually look like? We break down the mindset shift, the boundaries, and the strategy behind pre-listing appointments — especially when they're not ready yet. Here's what we cover in this episode: Why the highest-performing agents go on pre-listing visits early The realistic listing prep timeline for sellers (hint: it's longer than they think) What sellers should NOT do too far in advance (step away from the mulch) Interior prep vs. exterior timing How to avoid losing listings after giving staging advice When to use a checklist — and when to show up in person Protecting your time with commitment letters or pre-market agreements What to do when they choose another agent after you've done the work Real-life stories of listings lost… and listings rewarded We also share a powerful reminder: sometimes helping someone prep their home changes more than just their sale price. And don't forget — we're collecting TOASTS! If you're a buyer, seller, Realtor, or client who wants to celebrate a Realtor who made a difference, send your toast to: [email protected] Key Quotes & Takeaways "The agent who shows up first is usually the one who wins." – Katy "Phase one of listing prep is phase one of moving." – Alissa "You're not a free checklist. You're a service-based business." – Katy "Sometimes the sooner you get in the house, the better, even if they're a year out." – Alissa "There's no 100% protection in real estate… but there is real estate karma." – Katy Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Hustle Humbly Staging Prep Checklist (Freebie) Pre-Listing Appointment Email Template(included in Email Templates 101) Pre-Market / Commitment Agreement (Broker-specific form) Vendor List (painters, storage units, junk haulers, etc.) Episode 143: Working with Sellers: Pre-Listing Prep Episode 276: How Do You Stage a House? A Guide for Consumers Epidsode 45: The Listing Interview Episode 189: Listing Photos Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly Music: "Straight A's" by Connor Price → https://connorprice.shop/ "The Good Life" by Summer Kennedy → https://soundcloud.com/summerkennedy/the-good-life "Be The One" by Matrika → https://uppbeat.io/t/matrika/be-the-one

We've talked about loopholes and contract problems before, but avoiding the messiness of real estate is one of those topics you can never cover too many times. In this episode, we're talking about all the tiny contract decisions that don't feel like a big deal until suddenly they are. Missing initials. Blank lines. Verbal promises. Appliances that magically disappear. Furniture negotiations that never end. You know the ones. This conversation was sparked by a broker who reached out to us after stepping into a compliance role and realizing just how messy agents can get with paperwork. From there, we went deep into why clean contracts matter, how verbal agreements create risk, and why adding "just one more thing" to a purchase agreement can blow up an otherwise smooth deal. This episode is part pep talk, part cautionary tale, and part reminder that professionalism protects everyone involved. Here's what we cover in this episode: Why avoiding the messiness of real estate starts with treating paperwork like a legal document (because it is) How missing initials, blanks, and timestamps can create real liability Why verbal agreements are only good for setting expectations, not protecting deals The risks of "knowledge only" conversations during due diligence Appliances, furniture, grills, boats, and why movables make contracts messy fast How lenders and appraisers view non-real-estate items in contracts Why clean offers are often the strongest offers A reminder that it's not a problem until it's a problem Key Quotes & Takeaways Alissa: "It's not a problem until it's a problem. And then it's a big problem." Katy: "The more things you add to a contract, the more things can go wrong." Alissa: "Verbal agreements are only good for setting expectations, not protecting deals." Katy: "Clean offers win. Every single time." Alissa: "Professionalism isn't about being perfect. It's about being careful." Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Episode 240: Loopholes in Real Estate Email Templates 101 FREE Database Template Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly Music: "Straight A's" by Connor Price → https://connorprice.shop/ "The Good Life" by Summer Kennedy → https://soundcloud.com/summerkennedy/the-good-life "Be The One" by Matrika → https://uppbeat.io/t/matrika/be-the-one

Private listings, office exclusives, coming soon statuses, Zillow, Compass… whew. In this episode, Katy and Alissa tackle one of the messiest conversations happening in real estate right now: private listings in real estate and what they actually mean for agents, buyers, and sellers. With lawsuits flying, MLS rules evolving, and brokerages rolling out their own "exclusive" systems, it's getting harder to tell what's ethical, what's legal, and what's truly in the client's best interest. Katy breaks down the Zillow vs. Compass lawsuit, while Alissa shares real-life scenarios where private listings and coming soon statuses can either protect a client—or quietly hurt them. This episode isn't about picking sides. It's about transparency, consumer trust, and making sure agents aren't letting billion-dollar companies dictate how they serve their clients. Here's what we cover in this episode: What private listings, office exclusives, and coming soon listings actually mean Why pocket listings quietly disappeared—and came back with new names The Zillow vs. Compass lawsuit and why listings are the real battleground How private listings affect buyers, sellers, and fair housing When coming soon listings can work *in a seller's favor* Why MLS exposure still matters for pricing and trust The real ethical issue agents should be paying attention to Key Quotes & Takeaways Alissa: "If everyone starts hiding listings, it becomes a fair housing nightmare." Katy: "This isn't about agents or platforms—it's about listings. And listings belong to the consumer." Alissa: "If the house is ready and the photos are done, it should be on the market." Katy: "Open markets create trust. Closed systems create confusion." Alissa: "If your client doesn't understand what you're doing, you're not serving them." Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Email Templates 101 Listing Agreement Cover Letter FREE Database Template Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly Music: "Straight A's" by Connor Price → https://connorprice.shop/ "The Good Life" by Summer Kennedy → https://soundcloud.com/summerkennedy/the-good-life "Be The One" by Matrika → https://uppbeat.io/t/matrika/be-the-one

We've talked about dual agency a lot over the years. We've shared why it can work, when it feels straightforward, and how staying factual and neutral has always been the goal. In this episode, Alissa shares a real transaction that happened a while ago where dual agency went wrong. And although a lot of time has passed, the lessons still matter. Things didn't fall apart because of a bad inspection. Not because of shady advice. But because of trust, distance, emotions, and a perfect storm of circumstances that turned a clean deal into a full-on gut punch. We're walking through the entire story from start to finish so you can hear exactly what happened, what we would do differently, and the lessons every Realtor can take from it. Even if dual agency is illegal in your state, there are still big takeaways here around inspections, communication, and how quickly things can unravel when buyers don't feel secure. Here's what we cover in this episode: Why dual agency felt simple… until it didn't How out-of-state buyers and trust issues complicated everything What happens when buyers skip the inspection (and won't FaceTime) Why a clean inspection report can still kill a deal The emotional toll of representing both sides The social media post that officially ended the relationship What we would change next time How to protect your professionalism when things go sideways This episode is honest, vulnerable, and very real. It's podcast therapy, y'all. Take what works, leave the rest, and let this be your reminder that even experienced Realtors can get humbled. Key Quotes & Takeaways "I genuinely believe I handled it right, but dual agency made it impossible for them to hear me." -Alissa "Sometimes you do everything correctly and it still goes wrong." -Katy "A clean inspection report doesn't matter if trust is already broken." -Alissa "This is why residential real estate is emotional, not logical." -Katy "This was my karma moment, and I will never forget how it felt." -Alissa Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Email Templates 101 Agent Systems 101 FREE Database Template Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Leave us a review at http://ratethispodcast.com/hustlehumbly Music: Straight A's by Connor Price The Good Life by Summer Kennedy https://uppbeat.io/t/matrika/be-the-one License code: UDHIJOOTAN3SJMZG

What if everything you thought you knew about homebuyers and sellers was wrong? Every year we dive into the gold mine of information inside the NAR Profile of Home Buyers and Sellers and the Member Profile for Realtors, and y'all… the 2025 data might be the most shocking yet. In this 4th annual deep dive, we're bringing you the stats that matter—and breaking down what they actually mean for your real estate business in 2026. From skyrocketing median ages to shifts in how (and if) clients are finding their agents, this episode is your go-to resource for understanding the real people buying and selling homes right now. Spoiler: they probably don't look like the people you've been marketing to. We also chat about why real estate websites are shockingly useless, who's staying in homes longer than ever, and how to stop worrying about FSBOs entirely. Plus, Katy reveals why this data can sharpen your confidence as a Realtor and even improve your listing presentations, and Alissa shares a vulnerable moment when she almost let imposter syndrome cost her a listing. Grab your coffee (or your calculator) and let's talk buyers, sellers, and the wild stats behind them. Here's what we cover in this episode: The median age of buyers and sellers (and why it matters) The shift in first-time buyer demographics How long people are staying in their homes now What agents think is causing market stagnation The #1 way buyers and sellers choose their Realtor For Sale By Owner: how many really do it, and what they lose What types of agents are thriving—and who's leaving the industry The truth about paid leads, teams, and real estate income What the data says about your social media efforts (brace yourself) Key Quotes & Takeaways "The NAR report isn't just stats. It's a confidence builder, a client education tool, and a strategy guide." – Katy "We think everyone is like us, but they're not. That's why this data is good—it bursts the bubble." – Alissa "If you're talking to the wrong people, your marketing will never work. These numbers tell us who's actually buying and selling." – Katy "Only 6% of Realtors have real estate as their first career. That means most of us are figuring this out as a second act." – Alissa "Almost 30% of agents net less than $10,000 a year. We have to stop telling new agents that success is instant." – Katy Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Email Templates 101 Agent Systems 101 FREE Database Template Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Music: "Straight A's" by Connor Price → https://connorprice.shop/ "The Good Life" by Summer Kennedy → https://soundcloud.com/summerkennedy/the-good-life "Be The One" by Matrika → https://uppbeat.io/t/matrika/be-the-one

Ever wish you could peek into other agents' most challenging situations and hear exactly how to handle them? That's what this episode is all about. We asked our listeners to send us their real estate dilemmas—and they delivered! In Episode 337, we're analyzing real-life real estate scenarios: anxious buyers, builder referral incentives, tricky team splits, disclosure dilemmas, expired listings, and more. Some of these situations are tricky. Others are all-too-familiar. But every single one gets our honest take and plenty of actionable advice. We cover the real reason clients push title companies, how to build agent referral networks that *actually* work, and what happens when you're asked to list a property next to your own rentals. Plus, Alissa shares how working with "difficult" clients early in her career turned into high-end referrals later. And Katy reminds us: don't guilt-trip yourself out of success just because your lead generation strategy has evolved. Here's what we cover in this episode: - How to handle buyers who move too fast - Tips for buyer consults on the fly - New construction vs resale: what's better for a new agent? - Should you disclose you own the property next door? - Builder incentives and loyalty dilemmas - Lender/title kickbacks and your ethical obligations - When a deal falls apart—and whether to leave a bad review - Real talk on referral networks: what works and what's a waste - What to do when "difficult" clients land in your lap - Should agents retire and sell their book of business? Key Quotes & Takeaways "Just because a builder offers incentives doesn't mean it's best for your client or worse. You have to get the fee sheets and compare." – Alissa "Doing your buyer consult at the first showing is totally acceptable, just be prepared and flexible." – Katy "Using your preferred lender is a luxury, not a requirement. The client comes first." – Alissa "If you're getting enough business that you don't have time to look for business... what's the problem?" – Katy "If you can handle the difficult clients, you can earn the better ones." – Alissa Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Email Templates 101 – http://emailtemplates101.com Agent Systems 101 – http://agentsystems101.com FREE Database Template – http://hustlehumblypodcast.com/starthere Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. 🎵 Music: Straight A's by Connor Price → https://connorprice.shop/ The Good Life by Summer Kennedy → https://soundcloud.com/summerkennedy/the-good-life Be The One by Matrika → https://uppbeat.io/t/matrika/be-the-one

You got your license… now what? The first three years in real estate can feel like complete chaos. And if you're like a lot of newer agents, you might find yourself wondering, "Am I just too sensitive for this?" In this episode, we're tackling a topic that no one seems to talk about: how to build *true* Realtor confidence in those early years — especially when you feel like you're fumbling your way through. What sparked this conversation? A heartfelt listener email asking for help navigating agent-to-agent interactions, self-doubt, sensitivity, and the struggle to find confidence. Katy and Alissa get real about what those early years *really* look like, how long it actually takes to build a solid business, and what mindset shifts and systems will make all the difference. This one's packed with stories, pep talks, and some tough love (with humor, of course!) to help you stop overthinking, start showing up, and grow into the confident, professional Realtor you're meant to be. Here's what we cover in this episode: - When your "3-year clock" really starts ticking - Why being licensed doesn't equal experience - How veteran agents can sniff out a lack of confidence - Mistakes new agents make in agent-to-agent communication - How systems (like email templates!) instantly boost confidence - Why your job is NOT to make everyone happy - How to practice confidence — before you have clients - Where to turn for help when your broker isn't available - Tips for setting expectations and avoiding emotional rollercoasters - Power poses + mindset tricks to build immediate confidence - Why every transaction impacts your long-term business Key Quotes & Takeaways "You don't need five years to be good — you just need systems, education, and the willingness to do the work." – Katy "The three-year clock doesn't start until you actually start working." – Alissa "Confidence comes from clarity. If you don't know the steps, you won't feel strong." – Katy "Every client is your walking billboard — good or bad." – Alissa "Your job isn't to make everyone happy — it's to represent your client well." – Katy Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Email Templates 101 Agent Systems 101 Free Database Template Amy Cuddy's TED Talk: "Your Body Language May Shape Who You Are" Episode 146: Confidence and Self Doubt Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Music: Straight A's by Connor Price → https://connorprice.shop/ The Good Life by Summer Kennedy → https://soundcloud.com/summerkennedy/the-good-life Be The One by Matrika → https://uppbeat.io/t/matrika/be-the-one

It's a new year, and with that comes a tidal wave of motivation, new planners, gym memberships—and a lot of Realtors about to throw out their entire business in the name of "starting fresh." 😬 This episode is your permission slip to *not* join the "Real Estate Gym" of shiny tools, overhauls, and burnout waiting to happen. We're talking about the very real trap of doing *too much too fast* in January—new CRM, new lead gen, new branding, new content plan—and why it never sticks. Instead, we walk you through how to build real momentum by focusing on what's already working. Spoiler alert: Your tools aren't broken. You're just bored. And that's normal. We're sharing our favorite quotes from Atomic Habits, calling out decision fatigue, and giving you practical steps to stay consistent—even when the spark fades. ✨ Before you sign up for another system, challenge, or freebie you'll never use—listen to this. Here's what we cover in this episode: - What shiny object syndrome looks like in real estate - Why overhauling everything rarely works - The difference between boredom and failure - How to audit what actually worked last year - Setting goals based on your real business data - How to re-use what you already have - Why we aren't "motivational speakers" (and what we are instead) - How to build slow, sustainable momentum that lasts Key Quotes & Takeaways "Tools don't create habits." — Katy "You're not failing. You're bored. And that's a very different thing." — Katy "Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become." — Alissa quoting Atomic Habits "Boundaries aren't permission to not work—they're protection so you can keep working." — Alissa "Stop changing everything. Start using what you already have." — Katy Products, People & Previous Episodes Mentioned: Atomic Habits by James Clear Hustle Humbly Community Membership Episode 178: "Spruce Up Your Business" Email Templates 101 — http://emailtemplates101.com Agent Systems 101 — http://agentsystems101.com Want to toast someone on the show? Send us a voice or video message with your name, who you're toasting, and why! Email it to [email protected]. Music: Straight A's by Connor Price → https://connorprice.shop/ The Good Life by Summer Kennedy → https://soundcloud.com/summerkennedy/the-good-life Be The One by Matrika → https://uppbeat.io/t/matrika/be-the-one